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(Orlando Sentinel)   Florida man allowed to keep $4M of the $22M in cash police confiscated from him, possibly because that's all that made it back to the evidence lockers   ( orlandosentinel.com) divider line
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2018-02-08 12:20:16 PM  
He needs to figure out how to launder that money like real legitimate businessman.
 
2018-02-08 12:21:05 PM  
Forty-six-year-old Luis Hernandez-Gonzalez pleaded guilty Wednesday to money laundering and structuring bank deposits to avoid reporting the true amounts to the government.

Selling grow equipment (fine) to out-of-state legal grow ops (allegedly, but fine).  Pleads guilty to laundering the money to avoid taxes (obvious).  Wants wants to keep all the money (wtf?).
 
2018-02-08 01:23:18 PM  

foo monkey: Forty-six-year-old Luis Hernandez-Gonzalez pleaded guilty Wednesday to money laundering and structuring bank deposits to avoid reporting the true amounts to the government.

Selling grow equipment (fine) to out-of-state legal grow ops (allegedly, but fine).  Pleads guilty to laundering the money to avoid taxes (obvious).  Wants wants to keep all the money (wtf?).


Came here to point out the FAKE NEWS that got greenlit, because fark loves greelighting fake news and actively deceiving it's readers for the sake of getting clicks

Since there was some credibility to his claim that the money was earned legally, the Judge decided to "split the baby". Or in other words, the court showed some mercy here, since they could have by right kept it all

Moreover, there is absolutely no statement in the article at all to support any allegation of corruption or theft by the Police

This headline is nothing but lies made by a shiatlord with the intent to deceive and push an agenda against the rule of law in the US. And fark eats it up

I think I'm done with totalfark -- I refuse to support this shiat any further. It just keeps getting worse
 
2018-02-08 01:49:07 PM  

rcain: foo monkey: Forty-six-year-old Luis Hernandez-Gonzalez pleaded guilty Wednesday to money laundering and structuring bank deposits to avoid reporting the true amounts to the government.

Selling grow equipment (fine) to out-of-state legal grow ops (allegedly, but fine).  Pleads guilty to laundering the money to avoid taxes (obvious).  Wants wants to keep all the money (wtf?).

Came here to point out the FAKE NEWS that got greenlit, because fark loves greelighting fake news and actively deceiving it's readers for the sake of getting clicks

Since there was some credibility to his claim that the money was earned legally, the Judge decided to "split the baby". Or in other words, the court showed some mercy here, since they could have by right kept it all

Moreover, there is absolutely no statement in the article at all to support any allegation of corruption or theft by the Police

This headline is nothing but lies made by a shiatlord with the intent to deceive and push an agenda against the rule of law in the US. And fark eats it up

I think I'm done with totalfark -- I refuse to support this shiat any further. It just keeps getting worse


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2018-02-08 04:17:02 PM  

rcain: foo monkey: Forty-six-year-old Luis Hernandez-Gonzalez pleaded guilty Wednesday to money laundering and structuring bank deposits to avoid reporting the true amounts to the government.

Selling grow equipment (fine) to out-of-state legal grow ops (allegedly, but fine).  Pleads guilty to laundering the money to avoid taxes (obvious).  Wants wants to keep all the money (wtf?).

Came here to point out the FAKE NEWS that got greenlit, because fark loves greelighting fake news and actively deceiving it's readers for the sake of getting clicks

Since there was some credibility to his claim that the money was earned legally, the Judge decided to "split the baby". Or in other words, the court showed some mercy here, since they could have by right kept it all

Moreover, there is absolutely no statement in the article at all to support any allegation of corruption or theft by the Police

This headline is nothing but lies made by a shiatlord with the intent to deceive and push an agenda against the rule of law in the US. And fark eats it up

I think I'm done with totalfark -- I refuse to support this shiat any further. It just keeps getting worse


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2018-02-08 04:44:52 PM  

rcain: foo monkey: Forty-six-year-old Luis Hernandez-Gonzalez pleaded guilty Wednesday to money laundering and structuring bank deposits to avoid reporting the true amounts to the government.

Selling grow equipment (fine) to out-of-state legal grow ops (allegedly, but fine).  Pleads guilty to laundering the money to avoid taxes (obvious).  Wants wants to keep all the money (wtf?).

Came here to point out the FAKE NEWS that got greenlit, because fark loves greelighting fake news and actively deceiving it's readers for the sake of getting clicks

Since there was some credibility to his claim that the money was earned legally, the Judge decided to "split the baby". Or in other words, the court showed some mercy here, since they could have by right kept it all

Moreover, there is absolutely no statement in the article at all to support any allegation of corruption or theft by the Police

This headline is nothing but lies made by a shiatlord with the intent to deceive and push an agenda against the rule of law in the US. And fark eats it up

I think I'm done with totalfark -- I refuse to support this shiat any further. It just keeps getting worse


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2018-02-08 05:07:49 PM  
Fark.  All the love and compassion of /b/ without random CP.
 
2018-02-08 05:08:25 PM  
asset forfeiture is of course, a huge scam but this guy isn't exactly the "minority with a large amount of cash for an innocent purpose that the police just assumed had to be from crime"
 
2018-02-08 05:11:04 PM  

rcain: foo monkey: Forty-six-year-old Luis Hernandez-Gonzalez pleaded guilty Wednesday to money laundering and structuring bank deposits to avoid reporting the true amounts to the government.

Selling grow equipment (fine) to out-of-state legal grow ops (allegedly, but fine).  Pleads guilty to laundering the money to avoid taxes (obvious).  Wants wants to keep all the money (wtf?).

Came here to point out the FAKE NEWS that got greenlit, because fark loves greelighting fake news and actively deceiving it's readers for the sake of getting clicks

Since there was some credibility to his claim that the money was earned legally, the Judge decided to "split the baby". Or in other words, the court showed some mercy here, since they could have by right kept it all

Moreover, there is absolutely no statement in the article at all to support any allegation of corruption or theft by the Police

This headline is nothing but lies made by a shiatlord with the intent to deceive and push an agenda against the rule of law in the US. And fark eats it up

I think I'm done with totalfark -- I refuse to support this shiat any further. It just keeps getting worse


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2018-02-08 05:12:52 PM  
His lawyers insist the money is legitimate profit from equipment sales to people who grow marijuana legally in other states, and that no bank in Florida would accept his cash.


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2018-02-08 05:13:03 PM  

ElwoodCuse: asset forfeiture is of course, a huge scam but this guy isn't exactly the "minority with a large amount of cash for an innocent purpose that the police just assumed had to be from crime"


Irrelevant.

Robbery by the state is still robbery by the state.
 
2018-02-08 05:14:02 PM  

ElwoodCuse: asset forfeiture is of course, a huge scam but this guy isn't exactly the "minority with a large amount of cash for an innocent purpose that the police just assumed had to be from crime"


The funny thing is that if everything is as reported his only crime is actually how he dealt with the money.

Money laundering/tax evasion  is like the highest federal crime in terms of prison sentences and conviction rates.
 
2018-02-08 05:14:40 PM  
Rcain:
Something something screen door.
 
2018-02-08 05:15:19 PM  
I'm always impressed when someone so moran profits in the millions. It's Miami FL that city is built on washing money. Figure something out better than buckets.
 
2018-02-08 05:16:56 PM  
At first he was all like, "I got this money and then
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2018-02-08 05:21:49 PM  

NutWrench: His lawyers insist the money is legitimate profit from equipment sales to people who grow marijuana legally in other states, and that no bank in Florida would accept his cash.


He should have tried the other 56 states.
 
2018-02-08 05:24:33 PM  

justanotherfarkinfarker: I'm always impressed when someone so moran profits in the millions. It's Miami FL that city is built on washing money. Figure something out better than buckets.


well banks wont touch pot shops in CO etc because they fear the feds. He obviously made some kind of decent argument if they are letting him keep any of it.
 
2018-02-08 05:25:17 PM  

rcain: foo monkey: Forty-six-year-old Luis Hernandez-Gonzalez pleaded guilty Wednesday to money laundering and structuring bank deposits to avoid reporting the true amounts to the government.

Selling grow equipment (fine) to out-of-state legal grow ops (allegedly, but fine).  Pleads guilty to laundering the money to avoid taxes (obvious).  Wants wants to keep all the money (wtf?).

Came here to point out the FAKE NEWS that got greenlit, because fark loves greelighting fake news and actively deceiving it's readers for the sake of getting clicks

Since there was some credibility to his claim that the money was earned legally, the Judge decided to "split the baby". Or in other words, the court showed some mercy here, since they could have by right kept it all

Moreover, there is absolutely no statement in the article at all to support any allegation of corruption or theft by the Police

This headline is nothing but lies made by a shiatlord with the intent to deceive and push an agenda against the rule of law in the US. And fark eats it up

I think I'm done with totalfark -- I refuse to support this shiat any further. It just keeps getting worse


Oh please, the police taking seized cash schtick in headlines is as old as Fark! Bye, Felicia. It goes hand in hand with the inflated drug seizure schtick.
 
2018-02-08 05:27:20 PM  
Wait... FTA he is to be sentenced on April 20th. So not only did the judge show some leniency by letting someone who plead guilty keep money and property but he has a sense of humor to sentence someone who sells grow equipment to marijuana growers on 420.
 
2018-02-08 05:29:56 PM  

doglover: Robbery by the state is still robbery by the state.


If the government can show that the money is the proceeds of criminal activity, is it still "robbery by the state?"
 
2018-02-08 05:30:57 PM  
dnrtfa, but did they say what happened to his sister, Selma Hernandez since they were both arrested?
 
2018-02-08 05:32:11 PM  

CruiserTwelve: doglover: Robbery by the state is still robbery by the state.

If the government can show that the money is the proceeds of criminal activity, is it still "robbery by the state?"


The government could not show that the money was proceeds from criminal activity. Unfortunately for this guy, the government only needs to speculate that it was proceeds from criminal activity and they can take it.
 
2018-02-08 05:32:28 PM  

rcain: foo monkey: Forty-six-year-old Luis Hernandez-Gonzalez pleaded guilty Wednesday to money laundering and structuring bank deposits to avoid reporting the true amounts to the government.

Selling grow equipment (fine) to out-of-state legal grow ops (allegedly, but fine).  Pleads guilty to laundering the money to avoid taxes (obvious).  Wants wants to keep all the money (wtf?).

Came here to point out the FAKE NEWS that got greenlit, because fark loves greelighting fake news and actively deceiving it's readers for the sake of getting clicks

Since there was some credibility to his claim that the money was earned legally, the Judge decided to "split the baby". Or in other words, the court showed some mercy here, since they could have by right kept it all

Moreover, there is absolutely no statement in the article at all to support any allegation of corruption or theft by the Police

This headline is nothing but lies made by a shiatlord with the intent to deceive and push an agenda against the rule of law in the US. And fark eats it up

I think I'm done with totalfark -- I refuse to support this shiat any further. It just keeps getting worse


Don't tell us, email Drew and admins.
And seriously, asset forfeiture for stickin it reasons has been commonplace for a long time.
I fought to get back around $400 after I was stopped for no reason other than it was Saturday night and my car was illegally searched. Had a 4 ounces of weed, went to jail. They tried to say I was a dealer, I brought my bank statement and a copy of my tax return check dated the day before on Friday. Heh I hadn't had time yet to deliver to 3 friends.

That was around 1980 or so.
 
2018-02-08 05:33:20 PM  

rcain: Came here to point out the FAKE NEWS that got greenlit, because fark loves greelighting fake news and actively deceiving it's readers for the sake of getting clicks


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2018-02-08 05:35:23 PM  

max_pooper: The government could not show that the money was proceeds from criminal activity. Unfortunately for this guy, the government only needs to speculate that it was proceeds from criminal activity and they can take it.


Okay, let's say this guy was selling marijuana growing equipment to people in states where marijuana growing is illegal, and he was caught during a wiretap explaining to those people how to use his equipment to grow marijuana. Is that evidence or is it speculation?
 
2018-02-08 05:35:31 PM  

Vansthing: Wait... FTA he is to be sentenced on April 20th. So not only did the judge show some leniency by letting someone who plead guilty keep money and property but he has a sense of humor to sentence someone who sells grow equipment to marijuana growers on 420.


Damn. That's like when Le'Veon Bell got called in for random drug testing and tweeted Seriously, on 4/20?
 
2018-02-08 05:39:04 PM  

Shagbert: I think I'm done with totalfark -- I refuse to support this shiat any further. It just keeps getting worse


Welp,   at least you are better off than Pedro.  He gets some of his money back but will be spending 30 years in the pound-me-in-the-ass prison

Enjoy that 5 bucks a month Shagbert
 
2018-02-08 05:39:51 PM  

CruiserTwelve: max_pooper: The government could not show that the money was proceeds from criminal activity. Unfortunately for this guy, the government only needs to speculate that it was proceeds from criminal activity and they can take it.

Okay, let's say this guy was selling marijuana growing equipment to people in states where marijuana growing is illegal, and he was caught during a wiretap explaining to those people how to use his equipment to grow marijuana. Is that evidence or is it speculation?


... that didn't happen.

No one is saying it's wrong if it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
 
2018-02-08 05:41:44 PM  

CruiserTwelve: doglover: Robbery by the state is still robbery by the state.

If the government can show that the money is the proceeds of criminal activity, is it still "robbery by the state?"


Yeah, but 22 million dollars not reported is tax evasion.  That's federal,  not local PD.   He wasn't selling marijuana.  He was selling gardening tools.
 
2018-02-08 05:41:55 PM  

Vansthing: Wait... FTA he is to be sentenced on April 20th. So not only did the judge show some leniency by letting someone who plead guilty keep money and property but he has a sense of humor to sentence someone who sells grow equipment to marijuana growers on 420.


That is kinda funny.
 
2018-02-08 05:42:07 PM  
man who sells indoor-gardening equipment

There's a place near me called Brew & Grow. I went last year to check it out. It's a pretty cool store.
I have a couple of unused rooms in my basement and think it would be cool to be able to grow vegis down there year around.

I didn't buy anything but I assume just by going there I'm on some kind of list now.
 
2018-02-08 05:43:44 PM  
 
2018-02-08 05:44:39 PM  

max_pooper: CruiserTwelve: doglover: Robbery by the state is still robbery by the state.

If the government can show that the money is the proceeds of criminal activity, is it still "robbery by the state?"

The government could not show that the money was proceeds from criminal activity. Unfortunately for this guy, the government only needs to speculate that it was proceeds from criminal activity and they can take it.


No. He did not pay taxes on the money. They're getting theirs and then some now. He's lucky he got to keep the shirt on his back.
 
2018-02-08 05:46:56 PM  

abhorrent1: man who sells indoor-gardening equipment

There's a place near me called Brew & Grow. I went last year to check it out. It's a pretty cool store.
I have a couple of unused rooms in my basement and think it would be cool to be able to grow vegis down there year around.

I didn't buy anything but I assume just by going there I'm on some kind of list now.


Probably not an issue but you stopping by the Midget Clown EmPORNium next door probably raises a flad or two.
 
2018-02-08 05:47:40 PM  

WTFDYW: max_pooper: CruiserTwelve: doglover: Robbery by the state is still robbery by the state.

If the government can show that the money is the proceeds of criminal activity, is it still "robbery by the state?"

The government could not show that the money was proceeds from criminal activity. Unfortunately for this guy, the government only needs to speculate that it was proceeds from criminal activity and they can take it.

No. He did not pay taxes on the money. They're getting theirs and then some now. He's lucky he got to keep the shirt on his back.


That's not fortfeiture laws works.
 
2018-02-08 05:48:22 PM  

IRQ12: The funny thing is that if everything is as reported his only crime is actually how he dealt with the money.


Evading taxes is damning, but we all know what the real crime here was:

"Man charged $18M for refusing to open a bank account."
 
2018-02-08 05:52:13 PM  

max_pooper: WTFDYW: max_pooper: CruiserTwelve: doglover: Robbery by the state is still robbery by the state.

If the government can show that the money is the proceeds of criminal activity, is it still "robbery by the state?"

The government could not show that the money was proceeds from criminal activity. Unfortunately for this guy, the government only needs to speculate that it was proceeds from criminal activity and they can take it.

No. He did not pay taxes on the money. They're getting theirs and then some now. He's lucky he got to keep the shirt on his back.

That's not fortfeiture laws works.


Forfeiture laws? Ha. They work however the local, state and Fed's want them to work.
 
2018-02-08 05:55:11 PM  

Wonktnod: IRQ12: The funny thing is that if everything is as reported his only crime is actually how he dealt with the money.

Evading taxes is damning, but we all know what the real crime here was:

"Man charged $18M for refusing to open a bank account."


Well, not really:  "pleaded guilty Wednesday to money laundering and structuring bank deposits to avoid reporting the true amounts to the government."

He's basically the real life version of this:

Breaking Bad - Rolling the Barrel
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2018-02-08 05:55:24 PM  

EyeHaveRisen: Shagbert: I think I'm done with totalfark -- I refuse to support this shiat any further. It just keeps getting worse

Welp,   at least you are better off than Pedro.  He gets some of his money back but will be spending 30 years in the pound-me-in-the-ass prison

Enjoy that 5 bucks a month Shagbert


Quote the wrong person, much?
 
2018-02-08 05:57:26 PM  

WTFDYW: max_pooper: WTFDYW: max_pooper: CruiserTwelve: doglover: Robbery by the state is still robbery by the state.

If the government can show that the money is the proceeds of criminal activity, is it still "robbery by the state?"

The government could not show that the money was proceeds from criminal activity. Unfortunately for this guy, the government only needs to speculate that it was proceeds from criminal activity and they can take it.

No. He did not pay taxes on the money. They're getting theirs and then some now. He's lucky he got to keep the shirt on his back.

That's not fortfeiture laws works.

Forfeiture laws? Ha. They work however the local, state and Fed's want them to work.


If he appeals in federal court I assume it'll get over turned. Local guys got greedy and didn't even let him keep enough to pay the taxes they claimed he owes. The feds don't like when local yokels keep them from collecting what is due to them.
 
2018-02-08 06:05:54 PM  
I'll abreiviate; 30 at the cops, 20 at the detectives, 10 at the evidence locker, 2 presented in court. Nuff said.
 
2018-02-08 06:06:38 PM  

NutWrench: His lawyers insist the money is legitimate profit from equipment sales to people who grow marijuana legally in other states, and that no bank in Florida would accept his cash.


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That's actually true. Since marijuana is illegal by federal law, banks may not accept receipts from drug transactions or risk losing their Federal charter as being complicit in the racketeering of a federal crime. Yes, it's stupid.

There have been some articles on Fark regarding the dispensaries in Colorado being on an all-cash basis. They can't accept credit cards or issue paychecks. All salary must be paid out in cash. All suppliers must be paid in cash; all rent must be paid in cash. It's actually a very major headache and security problem constantly carting all this cash around.
 
2018-02-08 06:10:46 PM  
Is there equipment specifically for growing marijuana?
 
2018-02-08 06:11:30 PM  

CruiserTwelve: doglover: Robbery by the state is still robbery by the state.

If the government can show that the money is the proceeds of criminal activity, is it still "robbery by the state?"


It is if it uses forfeiture laws which bypass due process.
 
2018-02-08 06:13:47 PM  

big pig peaches: Is there equipment specifically for growing marijuana?


Yes. Gardening equipment, most soils, water, sunlight.

Anyone who has access to sunlight might be growing marijuana.
 
2018-02-08 06:21:09 PM  

doglover: big pig peaches: Is there equipment specifically for growing marijuana?

Yes. Gardening equipment, most soils, water, sunlight.

Anyone who has access to sunlight might be growing marijuana.


Yep. And you'll get a visit from the SWAT Team just for buying those items.
 
2018-02-08 06:28:36 PM  

NutWrench: His lawyers insist the money is legitimate profit from equipment sales to people who grow marijuana legally in other states, and that no bank in Florida would accept his cash.


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No one would accept his huge mountains of cash he said was from Marijuana supply sales? Here's a top buddy: tell them youre selling gardening supplies and they'll accept your cash. Christ, how hard is that.
 
2018-02-08 06:38:47 PM  

rcain: foo monkey: Forty-six-year-old Luis Hernandez-Gonzalez pleaded guilty Wednesday to money laundering and structuring bank deposits to avoid reporting the true amounts to the government.

Selling grow equipment (fine) to out-of-state legal grow ops (allegedly, but fine).  Pleads guilty to laundering the money to avoid taxes (obvious).  Wants wants to keep all the money (wtf?).

Came here to point out the FAKE NEWS that got greenlit, because fark loves greelighting fake news and actively deceiving it's readers for the sake of getting clicks

Since there was some credibility to his claim that the money was earned legally, the Judge decided to "split the baby". Or in other words, the court showed some mercy here, since they could have by right kept it all

Moreover, there is absolutely no statement in the article at all to support any allegation of corruption or theft by the Police

This headline is nothing but lies made by a shiatlord with the intent to deceive and push an agenda against the rule of law in the US. And fark eats it up

I think I'm done with totalfark -- I refuse to support this shiat any further. It just keeps getting worse

Welp,   at least you are better off than Pedro.  He gets some of his money back but will be spending 30 years in the pound-me-in-the-ass prison

Enjoy that 5 bucks a month

rcain
 
2018-02-08 06:39:34 PM  

Shagbert: EyeHaveRisen: Shagbert: I think I'm done with totalfark -- I refuse to support this shiat any further. It just keeps getting worse

Welp,   at least you are better off than Pedro.  He gets some of his money back but will be spending 30 years in the pound-me-in-the-ass prison

Enjoy that 5 bucks a month Shagbert

Quote the wrong person, much?


Not often.  But when I do, I do it semi - well
 
2018-02-08 06:46:10 PM  

CruiserTwelve: lindalouwho: ... that didn't happen.

Actually, that's exactly what happened.

Detectives raided his businesses and home after he was caught on a phone wiretap giving growing advice to Miami marijuana growers arrested by federal agents in Tennessee.


First of all, it's sleazy and dishonest  when folks delete part of someone's comment that makes their point. Because they don't care about the justice system. You sound like every single cop arguing with the DA on Law and Order or Blue Bloods.

1. They only heard him giving growing advice, they don't have evidence he was trafficking marijuana.
2. It's pretty f*cked up that they're going all Jeff Sessions insane going for a kill by calling it money laundering and conducting illegal transactions because they don't have evidence of trafficking. When it's legal in states where he did business and banks won't touch weed money, and yes not Florida, where he sold equipment and gave growing advice. They know he wasn't trafficking but fark his life and his family because they came up empty.

Yeah, he broke the law. It doesn't speak well of you to put on your black snuggle and mutilate the rule of law and process by judging and condemning him WITHOUT THE BURDEN OF PROOF AND EVIDENCE that he was trafficking.

Even if all of us think he's guilty (I think he farked up with Florida as demonic as this Fed v States crap is, but you do not get to say the cops are righteous with that charge of dealing WITHOUT EVIDENCE.

You scare me, I hope you're retired.
 
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