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2018-02-08 12:02:26 PM  
This is bad news for Colorado winter sports, Colorado farmers and cities, as well as people in Utah, Arizona, Nevada, California and Mexico.

Mead isn't looking great.

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I give it 50/50 we reach Stage 1 by 2020. Stage 1 is when the water is below 1075 on Jan 1.
 
2018-02-08 12:13:45 PM  

Nadie_AZ: This is bad news for Colorado winter sports, Colorado farmers and cities, as well as people in Utah, Arizona, Nevada, California and Mexico.

Mead isn't looking great.

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I give it 50/50 we reach Stage 1 by 2020. Stage 1 is when the water is below 1075 on Jan 1.


Yeah, it's been a bad year. But the snow is starting to pick up. March and April are typically CO's wettest months, so it's not too late to salvage the season.

*fingers crossed
 
2018-02-08 12:48:39 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Nadie_AZ: This is bad news for Colorado winter sports, Colorado farmers and cities, as well as people in Utah, Arizona, Nevada, California and Mexico.

Mead isn't looking great.

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I give it 50/50 we reach Stage 1 by 2020. Stage 1 is when the water is below 1075 on Jan 1.

Yeah, it's been a bad year. But the snow is starting to pick up. March and April are typically CO's wettest months, so it's not too late to salvage the season.

*fingers crossed


This. Plus I've only gotten to the slopes three times this season with my new Salomon QST99s and the snow has been patchy.

/#FIRSTWORLDHELL
 
2018-02-08 02:10:15 PM  
We've only had two snows this whole season. Neither were over an inch. It's been a weird, dry winter. Our ski resort has been using the snow machines 24/7 all winter just to keep the slopes open. And only a few trails on one mountain are open. It's ugly this year.
 
2018-02-08 02:23:11 PM  
Yeah, not just Colorado. In town, we've had about 20", and 15 of that came in a single storm. Otherwise, we got about 2" one time, and 3" the other time. And this winter, it isn't just in town, the mountains(You know, the "Greatest Snow on Earth) are the lowest since 1977. The whole West is farked, actually.

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Wadded Beef: /#FIRSTWORLDHELL


I know you're joking, but it really is more serious than just not getting to ski. The mountain snow in Utah is what we drink the rest of the year. It's ALL snowpack or nothing here.
 
2018-02-08 02:37:18 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: We've only had two snows this whole season. Neither were over an inch. It's been a weird, dry winter. Our ski resort has been using the snow machines 24/7 all winter just to keep the slopes open. And only a few trails on one mountain are open. It's ugly this year.


Back before snowmaking at Snowbowl, there were multiple seasons where the resort never opened... It doesn't even sound good with man made snow, I think they were excited over an 18" base, the last story I read.
 
2018-02-08 02:56:44 PM  

Mikey1969: ecmoRandomNumbers: We've only had two snows this whole season. Neither were over an inch. It's been a weird, dry winter. Our ski resort has been using the snow machines 24/7 all winter just to keep the slopes open. And only a few trails on one mountain are open. It's ugly this year.

Back before snowmaking at Snowbowl, there were multiple seasons where the resort never opened... It doesn't even sound good with man made snow, I think they were excited over an 18" base, the last story I read.


I went the 2nd year they made snow. It was essentially a hand full of runs, surrounded by bare ground and (duh) trees. Not good. I mean, it was skiing, but it wasn't skiing. 5 runs get old fast.
 
2018-02-08 03:11:26 PM  

Mikey1969: Yeah, not just Colorado. In town, we've had about 20", and 15 of that came in a single storm. Otherwise, we got about 2" one time, and 3" the other time. And this winter, it isn't just in town, the mountains(You know, the "Greatest Snow on Earth) are the lowest since 1977. The whole West is farked, actually.

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Wadded Beef: /#FIRSTWORLDHELL

I know you're joking, but it really is more serious than just not getting to ski. The mountain snow in Utah is what we drink the rest of the year. It's ALL snowpack or nothing here.


Yeah, I'm not too bullish on the next few decades either. Particularly in the southwest. Phoenix could be a ghost town within our lifetimes.
 
2018-02-08 03:28:53 PM  

Mikey1969: ecmoRandomNumbers: We've only had two snows this whole season. Neither were over an inch. It's been a weird, dry winter. Our ski resort has been using the snow machines 24/7 all winter just to keep the slopes open. And only a few trails on one mountain are open. It's ugly this year.

Back before snowmaking at Snowbowl, there were multiple seasons where the resort never opened... It doesn't even sound good with man made snow, I think they were excited over an 18" base, the last story I read.


Sunrise is barely open. Hon-Dah casino is packed, but nobody's going to Sunrise. You can barely even tube there.
 
2018-02-08 03:36:51 PM  
screw the snow, there's legal bongs to be sucked!
 
2018-02-08 03:39:15 PM  
If we'd started building desal plants in California 30 years ago it'd be cheaper than groundwater by now.

Oh well.
 
2018-02-08 03:39:58 PM  
Eh?
 
2018-02-08 03:40:46 PM  
Not gonna happen. NOAA predicts 3 months of above-average temps and below-average precipitation.

There goes my kayaking season.
 
2018-02-08 03:43:51 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: Mikey1969: ecmoRandomNumbers: We've only had two snows this whole season. Neither were over an inch. It's been a weird, dry winter. Our ski resort has been using the snow machines 24/7 all winter just to keep the slopes open. And only a few trails on one mountain are open. It's ugly this year.

Back before snowmaking at Snowbowl, there were multiple seasons where the resort never opened... It doesn't even sound good with man made snow, I think they were excited over an 18" base, the last story I read.

Sunrise is barely open. Hon-Dah casino is packed, but nobody's going to Sunrise. You can barely even tube there.


Sunrise is where I learned to ski. It usually had snow even when Snowbowl couldn't open. That's really a scary situation.
 
2018-02-08 03:45:18 PM  
Watch Cape Town SA for the next year to see what could happen in So Cal in our lifetime. It's scary how much we take for granted.
 
2018-02-08 03:52:19 PM  

Mikey1969: [wcc.nrcs.usda.gov image 816x1056]


Wyoming and Montana are killing it. Here's a tip for Anybody within 200 miles of the Colorado River: plan a lengthy summer vacation to Yellowstone this year.
 
2018-02-08 03:53:47 PM  
Here in Central BC we are finally getting some snow. 2 feet in the last three days.
 
2018-02-08 03:55:59 PM  
I anticipate another record wildfire season. It's over 60 degrees here in Albuquerque today, and we've only had two days of "I think I felt a drop of rain!" in something like 120 days. Usually we get a few inches of snow a couple of times during the winter.
 
2018-02-08 03:57:07 PM  

Nadie_AZ: This is bad news for Colorado winter sports, Colorado farmers and cities, as well as people in Utah, Arizona, Nevada, California and NEW Mexico.

Mead isn't looking great.

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I give it 50/50 we reach Stage 1 by 2020. Stage 1 is when the water is below 1075 on Jan 1.


FTFY
 
2018-02-08 04:07:17 PM  
In New Mexico, I discovered Ski Santa Fe last year, which was a decent little mountain to ski at last season.  Some steep terrain, not terribly busy, great snow.

This year it is just awful.  I haven't gone, no point in just skiing on the bunny slope.  Taos isn't better, and possibly much worse.
 
2018-02-08 04:28:51 PM  
Wadded Beef:

This. Plus I've only gotten to the slopes three times this season with my new Salomon QST99s and the snow has been patchy.

/#FIRSTWORLDHELL


How do you like them?  I haven't bought new skis in over a decade and I'm thinking of upgrading.

Jackson is getting great snow this year, but I haven't headed that way yet.  I went to Steamboat last weekend, and the upper mountain was good.  Lower mountain was scrubbed out and scratchy by the end of the day.  It was really warm too - more like spring skiing . . .
 
2018-02-08 04:32:23 PM  

StatisticallyIrrelevant: I anticipate another record wildfire season. It's over 60 degrees here in Albuquerque today, and we've only had two days of "I think I felt a drop of rain!" in something like 120 days. Usually we get a few inches of snow a couple of times during the winter.


We're in the east mountains so wildfires are a big concern. Last year we had a good amount of snow & good rain in the monsoon season, so there was a lot of growth which doesn't help.
 
2018-02-08 04:45:13 PM  
We had to cancel our Georgetown lake ice racing event this year. Usually, the lake ice is at least 12" by early January. Instead it was between 2" and 6".
 
2018-02-08 04:55:48 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Mikey1969: ecmoRandomNumbers: We've only had two snows this whole season. Neither were over an inch. It's been a weird, dry winter. Our ski resort has been using the snow machines 24/7 all winter just to keep the slopes open. And only a few trails on one mountain are open. It's ugly this year.

Back before snowmaking at Snowbowl, there were multiple seasons where the resort never opened... It doesn't even sound good with man made snow, I think they were excited over an 18" base, the last story I read.

I went the 2nd year they made snow. It was essentially a hand full of runs, surrounded by bare ground and (duh) trees. Not good. I mean, it was skiing, but it wasn't skiing. 5 runs get old fast.


Snowbowl had a fire last month when someone flicked a cigarette from the chair and it started a fire.

Skanque: In New Mexico, I discovered Ski Santa Fe last year, which was a decent little mountain to ski at last season.  Some steep terrain, not terribly busy, great snow.

This year it is just awful.  I haven't gone, no point in just skiing on the bunny slope.  Taos isn't better, and possibly much worse.


The runs are longer in Taos, but the daily tickets are full price at $108 a day. SF at least has them discounted at $62.  I texted a buddy about hiking to the top of Ski Santa Fe. He said "sure, if you want to hike back down"

I'm currently at 7 days at SF, two in Taos and 1 at Sipapu.  It's going to be a struggle to make my pass pay for itself this year but if it wasn't for snow-making nothing in NM would have opened.
 
2018-02-08 04:59:24 PM  

Frantic Freddie: StatisticallyIrrelevant: I anticipate another record wildfire season. It's over 60 degrees here in Albuquerque today, and we've only had two days of "I think I felt a drop of rain!" in something like 120 days. Usually we get a few inches of snow a couple of times during the winter.

We're in the east mountains so wildfires are a big concern. Last year we had a good amount of snow & good rain in the monsoon season, so there was a lot of growth which doesn't help.


Hopefully BC will stay wet this season. I was out of my house for 16 days last summer on mandatory fire evacuation. flames came within 1/2km of my house! Although, the paid fishing vacation was pretty sweet. Between Red Cross funds, emergency pay from my employer and my regular paycheck, I doubled my income while evacuated to a small fishing lodge by Kamloops.
 
2018-02-08 05:05:50 PM  
Great snowpack in MT this year but if the fires are W/SW/NW of us in a drier state or province, the smoke still finds a way to funnel itself here.  Hope everyone else gets a good, wet spring for all our sakes.
 
2018-02-08 05:06:21 PM  

DaAlien: We had to cancel our Georgetown lake ice racing event this year. Usually, the lake ice is at least 12" by early January. Instead it was between 2" and 6".


That turns my stomach to royal gelatin.
 
2018-02-08 05:15:55 PM  

steklo: screw the snow, there's legal bongs to be sucked!


But they get atl dark and gunky when you don't have water to put in them anymore
 
2018-02-08 05:28:04 PM  

Skanque: In New Mexico, I discovered Ski Santa Fe last year, which was a decent little mountain to ski at last season.  Some steep terrain, not terribly busy, great snow.

This year it is just awful.  I haven't gone, no point in just skiing on the bunny slope.  Taos isn't better, and possibly much worse.


My two favs. Going to Wolf Creek instead, they're sparse also. Only 35" of base
 
2018-02-08 05:31:05 PM  

willfullyobscure: If we'd started building desal plants in California 30 years ago it'd be cheaper than groundwater by now.

Oh well.


No it wouldn't.

Desalination is an energy hog.  That makes it pretty much impossible for it to be cheap.
 
2018-02-08 05:47:05 PM  
yeah up here at 10'600 it is pretty barron snow wise. Not excited for the burn bans due to extremely dry conditions as well. Plus spring breakers are about to show up and we need more open terrain for those jerrys.....
 
2018-02-08 05:47:56 PM  

orange whip: yeah up here at 10'600 it is pretty barron snow wise. Not excited for the burn bans due to extremely dry conditions as well. Plus spring breakers are about to show up and we need more open terrain for those jerrys.....


*barren.....dang it
 
2018-02-08 07:31:25 PM  

Atalanta: Wadded Beef:

This. Plus I've only gotten to the slopes three times this season with my new Salomon QST99s and the snow has been patchy.

/#FIRSTWORLDHELL

How do you like them?  I haven't bought new skis in over a decade and I'm thinking of upgrading.

Jackson is getting great snow this year, but I haven't headed that way yet.  I went to Steamboat last weekend, and the upper mountain was good.  Lower mountain was scrubbed out and scratchy by the end of the day.  It was really warm too - more like spring skiing . . .


I can't recommend them enough. Really solid all-around. I was at Breck a few weeks ago after about a foot of snowfall overnight and I was really pleased on how great they were in powder. If I had my old skis I would have carved deep into the powder all day and had a miserable time.
 
2018-02-08 08:01:40 PM  
Meanwhile in socal weve had five inches total between 2 storms. Even with the best snowmaking in the nation we still cant blow if it ain't cold enough...
 
2018-02-08 08:30:25 PM  
It's depressing as hell to look at Pikes Peak right now.  It looks just like it does in the summer and it's February. It sucks.
 
2018-02-08 11:47:54 PM  
Broke records here in the Kootenays for January snowfall, epic winter thus far.

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2018-02-08 11:54:34 PM  

Maud Dib: Skanque: In New Mexico, I discovered Ski Santa Fe last year, which was a decent little mountain to ski at last season.  Some steep terrain, not terribly busy, great snow.

This year it is just awful.  I haven't gone, no point in just skiing on the bunny slope.  Taos isn't better, and possibly much worse.

My two favs. Going to Wolf Creek instead, they're sparse also. Only 35" of base


Up at Purgatory right now and it looks like early June with very little snow on the Twlights, there is still time but spring is approaching fast and no snow would mean a very bad 2018 fire season for southern CO and NM.
 
2018-02-09 03:12:54 AM  
You guys, in the USA had a great few years though, here in Europe snow was thin on the ground. This year it sends reversed. I'm heading to Engelberg in April and there is a great snow base, either 7 or 17 metres. 😁
 
2018-02-09 02:41:09 PM  

Nadie_AZ: This is bad news for Colorado winter sports, Colorado farmers and cities, as well as people in Utah, Arizona, Nevada, California and Mexico.

Mead isn't looking great.

[img.fark.net image 740x500]

I give it 50/50 we reach Stage 1 by 2020. Stage 1 is when the water is below 1075 on Jan 1.


What the Fark happened in July of 2014?  Where did all that water come from, and where did it go?
 
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