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2018-02-08 08:46:26 AM  
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2018-02-08 09:43:54 AM  
You can make fun of Trump

Like I need your permission, subby.
 
2018-02-08 10:09:53 AM  
I think that they only have one kind of beer.
 
2018-02-08 12:15:27 PM  

KarmicDisaster: I think that they only have one kind of beer.



I have never tasted North Korean beer, and I have no desire to do so.  And yet, I think it's safe to assume that it's worse than Baltika 9:

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/Yes, those are large plastic bottles....classy.
//My local bottle shop/tap house carries it for shiats and giggles.
///Sampled it once.
////It was truly awful...like all the sadness and depression that took place during the days of the U.S.S.R. was somehow converted into a liquid and bottled.
 
2018-02-08 01:04:42 PM  

The_Sponge: KarmicDisaster: I think that they only have one kind of beer.


I have never tasted North Korean beer, and I have no desire to do so.  And yet, I think it's safe to assume that it's worse than Baltika 9:

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/Yes, those are large plastic bottles....classy.
//My local bottle shop/tap house carries it for shiats and giggles.
///Sampled it once.
////It was truly awful...like all the sadness and depression that took place during the days of the U.S.S.R. was somehow converted into a liquid and bottled.


I've heard it's popular because it's relatively strong and cheap.
 
2018-02-08 01:12:54 PM  
I'm glad to see American beer getting its due.

Yes, it used to suck 30 or 40 years ago, but the explosion of microbrews and crafted beers from even fairly large breweries puts the lie to that sad old shibboleth about American beers being watery, tasteless brews.  Anyone who still believes that is stuck in the 1980's.

In fact, it's probably the best thing Jimmy Carter ever did as president, deregulating the beer industry in 1979.
 
2018-02-08 01:26:03 PM  

pxlboy: I've heard it's popular because it's relatively strong and cheap.



Bingo.  That bottle shop I mentioned is next to Highway 99 in Lynnwood....so it's probably the winos who are buying it.

/Remember guy who once left a large jug of Carlo Rossi outside the door before walking it.
//He was quickly told to leave because he was HAMMERED.
 
2018-02-08 01:38:38 PM  
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2018-02-08 01:41:25 PM  
So this 'merikuh vs Best Korea tiff is now a "literal" pissing match?
 
2018-02-08 01:41:44 PM  
From the linked BBC article that actually tells you what makes it better:

According to state newspaper Rodong Sinmun, the country's Taedonggang brewery claims its new approach using wheat instead of barley "is better than existing beers in terms of its taste and smell", and has "already gained positive reviews from North Korean citizens."

Using wheat instead of barley in beer?  WHY HAS NO ONE EVER THOUGHT OF THIS BEFORE!?!?

/imagine how terrible NK hops must be
 
2018-02-08 01:42:00 PM  
American beer is the best beer in the world.
 
2018-02-08 01:42:37 PM  
Mini nukes the size of pony kegs?
 
2018-02-08 01:43:35 PM  

cousin-merle: Using wheat instead of barley in beer?  WHY HAS NO ONE EVER THOUGHT OF THIS BEFORE!?!?


I dunno, hefe.
 
2018-02-08 01:44:41 PM  

dittybopper: I'm glad to see American beer getting its due.

Yes, it used to suck 30 or 40 years ago, but the explosion of microbrews and crafted beers from even fairly large breweries puts the lie to that sad old shibboleth about American beers being watery, tasteless brews.  Anyone who still believes that is stuck in the 1980's.

In fact, it's probably the best thing Jimmy Carter ever did as president, deregulating the beer industry in 1979.


And he had plenty of family backing with that decision!

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2018-02-08 01:47:34 PM  
Put that beer back in the horse, Kim.
 
2018-02-08 01:48:48 PM  

H31N0US: American beer is the best beer in the world.



For certain styles, yes.  But not everything.

There are some domestic breweries that make tasty Czech-style Pilsners....Lagunitas and Firestone Walker come to mind.  But they aren't as good as Pilsner Urquell and Budweiser Budvar....and they never will be.

CSB:

I was at Oktoberfest in Munich last year, and ended up sharing a table with a group of locals in their 20s.  One of the guys said "American beer sucks."  I didn't know if he was kidding or serious, but I replied by saying that our big marco beers aren't good at all, but the micro beers are amazing.
 
2018-02-08 01:49:18 PM  
It's difficult to compare since we don't normally use formaldehyde in American beers.
 
2018-02-08 01:51:41 PM  
I actually wouldn't mind if the best beer came out of a small and poor country... It might help them out you know?
 
2018-02-08 01:51:56 PM  

H31N0US: American beer is the best beer in the world.


I remember going overseas to Germany back in the early 2000's and being like "dark beer? that's a thing? Lager that tastes good? wow I wish we had good beer back home"... then a decade later we're inundated with a mountain of craft beer, been a good time to like beer in the states.
 
2018-02-08 01:52:30 PM  
*EVERY* person I've had visit from overseas arrives with the assumption that our beer sucks and every one of them leaves thinking it's great.

They think Bud Light is our beer.  Is McDonalds our hamburger?  No.
 
2018-02-08 01:52:44 PM  
beer made with the souls of your citizens?
 
2018-02-08 01:53:28 PM  
The ensuing flatulence from this 'beer war' will cause more damage than any nuclear weapon.
Stop this madness before it gets out of hand!
 
2018-02-08 01:55:16 PM  

GoGoGadgetLiver: *EVERY* person I've had visit from overseas arrives with the assumption that our beer sucks and every one of them leaves thinking it's great.

They think Bud Light is our beer.  Is McDonalds our hamburger?  No.



Do you remember that awful Olive Garden commercial where an uncle from Italy comes to America and the host family takes him to Olive Garden?

If he had put out a mob hit on his American relatives, I don't think anyone would blame him for that.

/....more like Palmolive Garden.
 
2018-02-08 01:55:32 PM  

H31N0US: American beer is the best beer in the world.


In terms of overall quality and sheer variety, absolutely. Belgium still makes the best abbey ales, and Germany still makes the best examples of its myriad of traditional styles, but the US pretty clearly makes the "best in class" for almost every other style of beer.

A German colleague was visiting over here for 2 semesters back in 2003 or so. His initial sentiment was that nothing the US made could hold a candle to basically any German beer. On the day we said our goodbyes as he was heading back to Germany, he said that of course he would miss us, but that he'd miss Stone's Arrogant Bastard most of all.
 
2018-02-08 01:56:28 PM  
I hate beer.

It looks like piss, tastes like piss, froths like piss, gets sticky and grody like piss.

Of course, I hate milk also.

It looks like detergent, tastes like detergent (or else of nothing) and suds really well, like soap.

I dyed some milk blue once. It really looks like detergent when it is blue.
I drank some milk with Pepsi to see what Laverne liked about it. Meh, It tastes like Pepsi and milk.

I can see the theory behind the practice though. Ice cream floats are good, at least with Coca-Cola. Pepsi not nearly as much.

Long ago, in the fairy tale ages, every house Frau was pride of her beer. If a girl could make good beer and cook, men would court and marry her from the moment she turned legal until she was an old widow. Like the old Private Eye cartoon of an alien with a human wife and an alien with a walrus put it, Earth women are either good-looking or they can cook.

Some of them can probably still make good beer. Not artisanal or fashionable beer--good cooking, good rug-making and good beer making are the privilege of men and women do not count no matter how good they are.

And yes, there are good Canadian beers. They are the ones not owned by two giant international corporations, one from Belgium and one from Brazil.

Same as US beers. The good ones are largely regional or local, Small or Medium-Sized Enterprises (SMEs as we used to say in the Government).
 
2018-02-08 01:57:01 PM  

Mudd's woman: dittybopper: I'm glad to see American beer getting its due.

Yes, it used to suck 30 or 40 years ago, but the explosion of microbrews and crafted beers from even fairly large breweries puts the lie to that sad old shibboleth about American beers being watery, tasteless brews.  Anyone who still believes that is stuck in the 1980's.

In fact, it's probably the best thing Jimmy Carter ever did as president, deregulating the beer industry in 1979.

And he had plenty of family backing with that decision!

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Now *THAT* was some awful shiatbeer!
 
2018-02-08 01:57:06 PM  
Maybe not the best thing to make with your grain, given that the country is perpetually on the cusp of famine, but do what you do.

Given previous Korean "innovation" in the booze realm, I'm left to think that the secret method is just fermenting shiat.
 
2018-02-08 01:59:00 PM  

The_Sponge: GoGoGadgetLiver: *EVERY* person I've had visit from overseas arrives with the assumption that our beer sucks and every one of them leaves thinking it's great.

They think Bud Light is our beer.  Is McDonalds our hamburger?  No.


Do you remember that awful Olive Garden commercial where an uncle from Italy comes to America and the host family takes him to Olive Garden?

If he had put out a mob hit on his American relatives, I don't think anyone would blame him for that.

/....more like Palmolive Garden.


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I'd soak in it.

/Don't you judge me.
 
2018-02-08 01:59:57 PM  

olrasputin: H31N0US: American beer is the best beer in the world.

In terms of overall quality and sheer variety, absolutely. Belgium still makes the best abbey ales, and Germany still makes the best examples of its myriad of traditional styles, but the US pretty clearly makes the "best in class" for almost every other style of beer.

A German colleague was visiting over here for 2 semesters back in 2003 or so. His initial sentiment was that nothing the US made could hold a candle to basically any German beer. On the day we said our goodbyes as he was heading back to Germany, he said that of course he would miss us, but that he'd miss Stone's Arrogant Bastard most of all.



Good news for him...Stone has a location in Berlin:

https://www.facebook.com/StoneBrewing​B​erlin

IMHO:

The Czechs make better light lagers than the Germans do....which is no easy task.
 
2018-02-08 02:00:09 PM  

The_Sponge: I was at Oktoberfest in Munich last year, and ended up sharing a table with a group of locals in their 20s.  One of the guys said "American beer sucks."


The correct answer to that is "You know how I know you've never crossed the Atlantic?"

I worked with an English girl who toured the US for a few months before going back to the UK. On her way through NYC at the end of her trip, I asked, well, what do you think of the country now that you've been west of the Hudson? Her answer was that she and her husband were absolutely floored by how good the beer was everywhere they went. Random micros everywhere they turned, in every state they visited. She said England was nothing like it.

My brother in law grew up in Switzerland. I took him to a local that has a bunch of regional and local micros on tap. He just sat there staring at his beer. (Thick German accent) "I can't believe how good this beer is!".

Not that European beer isn't good, it is. It's fantastic. But our experimentation with micros is taking beer to a new level.
 
2018-02-08 02:00:52 PM  

GoGoGadgetLiver: *EVERY* person I've had visit from overseas arrives with the assumption that our beer sucks and every one of them leaves thinking it's great.

They think Bud Light is our beer.  Is McDonalds our hamburger?  No.


Oh, and user name checks out.
 
2018-02-08 02:01:33 PM  
Do you want to piss off the Germans, because thats how you piss off the Germans.
 
2018-02-08 02:01:54 PM  
I don't get it.
Why, and how, would anyone "Make fun" of Trump?
 
2018-02-08 02:02:41 PM  

brantgoose: I hate beer.

It looks like piss, tastes like piss, froths like piss, gets sticky and grody like piss.

Of course, I hate milk also.

It looks like detergent, tastes like detergent (or else of nothing) and suds really well, like soap.

I dyed some milk blue once. It really looks like detergent when it is blue.
I drank some milk with Pepsi to see what Laverne liked about it. Meh, It tastes like Pepsi and milk.

I can see the theory behind the practice though. Ice cream floats are good, at least with Coca-Cola. Pepsi not nearly as much.

Long ago, in the fairy tale ages, every house Frau was pride of her beer. If a girl could make good beer and cook, men would court and marry her from the moment she turned legal until she was an old widow. Like the old Private Eye cartoon of an alien with a human wife and an alien with a walrus put it, Earth women are either good-looking or they can cook.

Some of them can probably still make good beer. Not artisanal or fashionable beer--good cooking, good rug-making and good beer making are the privilege of men and women do not count no matter how good they are.

And yes, there are good Canadian beers. They are the ones not owned by two giant international corporations, one from Belgium and one from Brazil.

Same as US beers. The good ones are largely regional or local, Small or Medium-Sized Enterprises (SMEs as we used to say in the Government).


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2018-02-08 02:04:28 PM  

The_Sponge: olrasputin: H31N0US: American beer is the best beer in the world.

In terms of overall quality and sheer variety, absolutely. Belgium still makes the best abbey ales, and Germany still makes the best examples of its myriad of traditional styles, but the US pretty clearly makes the "best in class" for almost every other style of beer.

A German colleague was visiting over here for 2 semesters back in 2003 or so. His initial sentiment was that nothing the US made could hold a candle to basically any German beer. On the day we said our goodbyes as he was heading back to Germany, he said that of course he would miss us, but that he'd miss Stone's Arrogant Bastard most of all.


Good news for him...Stone has a location in Berlin:

https://www.facebook.com/StoneBrewingB​erlin

IMHO:

The Czechs make better light lagers than the Germans do....which is no easy task.


Lagunitas is doing the same thing.

And I agree about the Czechs on the very pale lagers; it's hard to find a substitute for having ideal starting water chemistry for the style.
 
2018-02-08 02:05:03 PM  

AdamK: H31N0US: American beer is the best beer in the world.

I remember going overseas to Germany back in the early 2000's and being like "dark beer? that's a thing? Lager that tastes good? wow I wish we had good beer back home"... then a decade later we're inundated with a mountain of craft beer, been a good time to like beer in the states.


There was plenty good beer available in the US by the mid 1990s. You just had to go to the right bar. I went to a beer expo in NYC, maybe 1995 / 1996 and it was massive, all craft beers from around the states. And they weren't all IPA!
 
2018-02-08 02:07:08 PM  

randomjsa: I actually wouldn't mind if the best beer came out of a small and poor country... It might help them out you know?


Mexico's been having a microbrewery revolution for a few years now.
 
2018-02-08 02:08:07 PM  

brantgoose: I hate beer.


You shouldn't drink it, then.
 
2018-02-08 02:11:26 PM  
Monty Python American Beer
Youtube R8aPABF7nW4
 
2018-02-08 02:12:00 PM  

H31N0US: The correct answer to that is "You know how I know you've never crossed the Atlantic?"

I worked with an English girl who toured the US for a few months before going back to the UK. On her way through NYC at the end of her trip, I asked, well, what do you think of the country now that you've been west of the Hudson? Her answer was that she and her husband were absolutely floored by how good the beer was everywhere they went. Random micros everywhere they turned, in every state they visited. She said England was nothing like it.

My brother in law grew up in Switzerland. I took him to a local that has a bunch of regional and local micros on tap. He just sat there staring at his beer. (Thick German accent) "I can't believe how good this beer is!".

Not that European beer isn't good, it is. It's fantastic. But our experimentation with micros is taking beer to a new level.



Ha!  True, although I tend to be less snarky in real life as compared to Fark...so that's why I tried to be diplomatic.  :-)

CSB:

Back in May 2016, I was in Prague and visited an annual beer festival...and a lot of local breweries were putting out these fantastic IPAs that were obviously inspired by American IPAs.

Oh!  And last year, I went back to Prague after being in Munich.  On my last full day, I stopped by the Zemsky brewery.  I had sampled some of their beers during that previous beer festival, so I wanted to stop by.  Amusingly enough, one of their beers is called Colorado Pale Ale....they had brought in an American brewer from Colorado as a consultant for the recipe.  Oh....and it was in a neighborhood where tourists don't go...and nobody spoke English, and I only know the very basics in Czech.  Fortunately. they had wifi, and I was able to use Google translator as a way of introducing myself.

Right now, they are a "gypsy brewery", so they don't actually do the brewing in their current building...but they will after a massive remodel.  The tasting room is in a trailer inside the courtyard.  The run-down building kind of reminded me of "Hostel"...so I'm glad I made it out alive.  :-)

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2018-02-08 02:14:33 PM  

H31N0US: brantgoose: I hate beer.

You shouldn't drink it, then.



Also:

More for us.  Yay!
 
2018-02-08 02:15:53 PM  
They don't even have food there. They eat trees and dirt. Why do they need beer?
 
2018-02-08 02:15:55 PM  

The_Sponge: H31N0US: The correct answer to that is "You know how I know you've never crossed the Atlantic?"

I worked with an English girl who toured the US for a few months before going back to the UK. On her way through NYC at the end of her trip, I asked, well, what do you think of the country now that you've been west of the Hudson? Her answer was that she and her husband were absolutely floored by how good the beer was everywhere they went. Random micros everywhere they turned, in every state they visited. She said England was nothing like it.

My brother in law grew up in Switzerland. I took him to a local that has a bunch of regional and local micros on tap. He just sat there staring at his beer. (Thick German accent) "I can't believe how good this beer is!".

Not that European beer isn't good, it is. It's fantastic. But our experimentation with micros is taking beer to a new level.


Ha!  True, although I tend to be less snarky in real life as compared to Fark...so that's why I tried to be diplomatic.  :-)

CSB:

Back in May 2016, I was in Prague and visited an annual beer festival...and a lot of local breweries were putting out these fantastic IPAs that were obviously inspired by American IPAs.

Oh!  And last year, I went back to Prague after being in Munich.  On my last full day, I stopped by the Zemsky brewery.  I had sampled some of their beers during that previous beer festival, so I wanted to stop by.  Amusingly enough, one of their beers is called Colorado Pale Ale....they had brought in an American brewer from Colorado as a consultant for the recipe.  Oh....and it was in a neighborhood where tourists don't go...and nobody spoke English, and I only know the very basics in Czech.  Fortunately. they had wifi, and I was able to use Google translator as a way of introducing myself.

Right now, they are a "gypsy brewery", so they don't actually do the brewing in their current building...but they will after a massive remodel.  The tasting room is in a trailer inside th ...


We need a "Cool" button.
 
2018-02-08 02:18:18 PM  

olrasputin: Lagunitas is doing the same thing.

And I agree about the Czechs on the very pale lagers; it's hard to find a substitute for having ideal starting water chemistry for the style.



Oh wow...I hadn't heard about that.

/LOVE visiting the Czech Republic.
//Headed back in October.
///Met up with a fellow Farker there last year.
////Showed me an awesome time.
//Even though I ended up on the wrong late night tram that practically took me out to the airport.
//Didn't get back to my AirBnB rental until 4AM.
//Didn't even mind.
 
2018-02-08 02:22:29 PM  

The_Sponge: Ha!  True, although I tend to be less snarky in real life as compared to Fark...so that's why I tried to be diplomatic.  :-)


Like that guy, by saying our beer sucks? I mean, even if it were true, it's a douchebag thing to say to a guest in your country.

I think we can all agree that beer is good. Some beers are better than others. And that Coors Light, Michelob Ultra are not beer, but strong Non-Alcoholic malt beverages.
 
2018-02-08 02:28:16 PM  

stuffy: Do you want to piss off the Germans, because thats how you piss off the Germans.


Meh.  It's not like they can do anything about it anymore.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/mili​t​ary/navy-ships/a14480191/germanys-enti​re-submarine-fleet-is-out-of-commissio​n/
 
2018-02-08 02:30:03 PM  

H31N0US: Like that guy, by saying our beer sucks? I mean, even if it were true, it's a douchebag thing to say to a guest in your country.

I think we can all agree that beer is good. Some beers are better than others. And that Coors Light, Michelob Ultra are not beer, but strong Non-Alcoholic malt beverages.



It is, but the rest of the group was fine, and I was having such a blast, it didn't really matter.

Oh...and I don't care how much you love beer...I don't care if you are Norm Peterson from "Cheers"....NOTHING can prepare you for Oktoberfest.  I was there for the last two days of the festival, and I left early on both occasions.  Of course, I was severely tired and jet lagged, so that didn't help.

It was brutal getting there...had a red eye from Seattle to Boston, 7-8 hour layover in Boston, then I flew out to Reykjavik, arrived around midnight, had an hour layover, fly out to Munich, landed at 6AM, took the train to my AirBnB, changed my clothes, and then headed out for the penultimate day of Oktoberfest.  During all that travel time...I only managed 2 hours of sleep.
 
2018-02-08 02:31:09 PM  

deanis: We need a "Cool" button.



Thank you.
 
2018-02-08 02:31:21 PM  

The_Sponge: H31N0US: American beer is the best beer in the world.


For certain styles, yes.  But not everything.

There are some domestic breweries that make tasty Czech-style Pilsners....Lagunitas and Firestone Walker come to mind.  But they aren't as good as Pilsner Urquell and Budweiser Budvar....and they never will be.

CSB:

I was at Oktoberfest in Munich last year, and ended up sharing a table with a group of locals in their 20s.  One of the guys said "American beer sucks."  I didn't know if he was kidding or serious, but I replied by saying that our big marco beers aren't good at all, but the micro beers are amazing.


That last part is pretty much universal. Australians are horrified to learn that Foster's is far and away the best-known Australian-made beer internationally. There's probably a billion better Beers made in Mexico than Corona. China's TsingTao is also garbage.

/I'm sure Farkers can come up with more examples, and maybe some exceptions
 
2018-02-08 02:31:40 PM  

olrasputin: And I agree about the Czechs on the very pale lagers;


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WHAT A VERY PALE LIGER MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
 
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