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(Oregon Live)   Portland is using hawks to get rid of the city's crow population. And if Portland becomes infested with hawks, they'll send in Chinese needle snakes to eat the hawks, followed by snake-eating gorillas, which will freeze to death when winter comes   ( oregonlive.com) divider line
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2018-02-08 03:25:31 AM  
Crows were eating the insulation from building walls.

Sounds like that would be a self-correcting problem.
 
2018-02-08 05:39:49 AM  

fusillade762: Crows were eating the insulation from building walls.

Sounds like that would be a self-correcting problem.


I doubt they were eating it. Crows are much smarter than that and we're likely using it to line a nest.  They "ate" it temporarily.

The hawks are innate hunters with instinct to kill, but they've been trained not to and they pose no risk to the crows.

Good.  Unlike with like the other 90% of otherwise-brainless birds, I'd have taken serious issue with them killing crows--not like crows can't dance circles around most hawks anyway.  They're like orcas in my book: self-aware, intelligent, and have culture means they're on the same level as at least a dumb human and thus deserve nearly-if-not equal respect.

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2018-02-08 06:00:07 AM  
I've seen some crow vs hawk air battles. Crow usually loses, but they never back down. Nature's Dogfighters.
 
2018-02-08 06:02:02 AM  
I work for the city of Portland invasive species mitigation group so I am really getting a kick out of this headline. Some of you subbys  are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about. But trust me.... You don't. I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you dont know what you are talking about. This is how bad info gets passed around. If you dont know about the topic....Dont make yourself sound like you do. Cuz some Farkers belive anything they hear.
 
2018-02-08 06:05:24 AM  

koder: fusillade762: Crows were eating the insulation from building walls.

Sounds like that would be a self-correcting problem.

I doubt they were eating it. Crows are much smarter than that and we're likely using it to line a nest.  They "ate" it temporarily.

The hawks are innate hunters with instinct to kill, but they've been trained not to and they pose no risk to the crows.

Good.  Unlike with like the other 90% of otherwise-brainless birds, I'd have taken serious issue with them killing crows--not like crows can't dance circles around most hawks anyway.  They're like orcas in my book: self-aware, intelligent, and have culture means they're on the same level as at least a dumb human and thus deserve nearly-if-not equal respect.

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The stupid part id, it's illegal to own domestic crows, you have to pay $2000 to get an African pied crow,

/was thinking of getting one as a xmas present for my GF but too rich for my blood.
 
2018-02-08 06:07:18 AM  

Sasquach: I work for the city of Portland invasive species mitigation group so I am really getting a kick out of this headline. Some of you subbys  are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about. But trust me.... You don't. I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you dont know what you are talking about. This is how bad info gets passed around. If you dont know about the topic....Dont make yourself sound like you do. Cuz some Farkers belive anything they hear.


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2018-02-08 06:11:23 AM  

Sasquach: I work for the city of Portland invasive species mitigation group so I am really getting a kick out of this headline. Some of you subbys  are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about. But trust me.... You don't. I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you dont know what you are talking about. This is how bad info gets passed around. If you dont know about the topic....Dont make yourself sound like you do. Cuz some Farkers belive anything they hear.


So... No giant radioactive cats to destroy the killer cars that will be brought in to take down the gorillas when they fail to die off in the winter?
 
2018-02-08 06:13:43 AM  

Another Government Employee: I've seen some crow vs hawk air battles. Crow usually loses, but they never back down. Nature's Dogfighters.


Didn't have many crows where I came from but ravens, those guys aren't afraid of anything.  I've seen footage of a raven stealing a salmon from a bald eagle, one on one.  He literally irritated the eagle (a bird 2-3 times it's size) to the point where he just said "fark this, I'm out".

I remember reading a story back home where they had this rubberized plastic coating for a hangar and it was a really expensive coating ($10K) and ravens started eating it.  So they posted owl "dummies" on the roof, and the ravens ignored it.  They put a bittering agent on the coating, didn't stop them.  Ravens took that whole damn coating off.  There was also a story about a guy who was trying to capture and tag ravens to study them because people didn't really know much about them.  Their migratory habits, where they nest, etc.  The entire story was about how difficult he found it to actually catch them and the increasingly ridiculous lengths he tried to go through to trap them.  Eventually, he dumped a bag of Cheetos on the ground, waited for a flock of ravens to come by and did a wild drive by with a net gun.  He finally managed to capture one from that.

I don't know if this hawk thing is going to do anything, but if they're trained to not attack, the crows are going to figure that out eventually.  They will definitely be able to tell the domesticated hawks from the wild ones by their jessies.

So....good luck with that.
 
2018-02-08 06:15:05 AM  

Sasquach: I work for the city of Portland invasive species mitigation group so I am really getting a kick out of this headline. Some of you subbys  are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about. But trust me.... You don't. I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you dont know what you are talking about. This is how bad info gets passed around. If you dont know about the topic....Dont make yourself sound like you do. Cuz some Farkers belive anything they hear.


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2018-02-08 06:42:31 AM  
Thanks Subby, I enjoyed reading that article.
 
2018-02-08 07:13:36 AM  

Ambivalence: Another Government Employee: I've seen some crow vs hawk air battles. Crow usually loses, but they never back down. Nature's Dogfighters.

Didn't have many crows where I came from but ravens, those guys aren't afraid of anything.  I've seen footage of a raven stealing a salmon from a bald eagle, one on one.  He literally irritated the eagle (a bird 2-3 times it's size) to the point where he just said "fark this, I'm out".

I remember reading a story back home where they had this rubberized plastic coating for a hangar and it was a really expensive coating ($10K) and ravens started eating it.  So they posted owl "dummies" on the roof, and the ravens ignored it.  They put a bittering agent on the coating, didn't stop them.  Ravens took that whole damn coating off.  There was also a story about a guy who was trying to capture and tag ravens to study them because people didn't really know much about them.  Their migratory habits, where they nest, etc.  The entire story was about how difficult he found it to actually catch them and the increasingly ridiculous lengths he tried to go through to trap them.  Eventually, he dumped a bag of Cheetos on the ground, waited for a flock of ravens to come by and did a wild drive by with a net gun.  He finally managed to capture one from that.

I don't know if this hawk thing is going to do anything, but if they're trained to not attack, the crows are going to figure that out eventually.  They will definitely be able to tell the domesticated hawks from the wild ones by their jessies.

So....good luck with that.


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2018-02-08 07:20:13 AM  
There was an old lady who swallowed a fly;
I don't know why she swallowed a fly - perhaps she'll die!
There was an old lady who swallowed a spider;
That wriggled and jiggled and tickled inside her!
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly;
I don't know why she swallowed a fly - Perhaps she'll die!
There was an old lady who swallowed a bird;
How absurd to swallow a bird!
She swallowed the bird to catch the spider;
That wriggled and jiggled and tickled inside her!
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly;
I don't know why she swallowed a fly - Perhaps she'll die!
There was an old lady who swallowed a cat;
Imagine that! She swallowed a cat!
She swallowed the cat to catch the bird,
She swallowed the bird to catch the spider;
That wriggled and jiggled and tickled inside her!
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly;
I don't know why she swallowed a fly - Perhaps she'll die!
There was an old lady that swallowed a dog;
She was a hog that she swallowed a dog!
She swallowed the dog to catch the cat,
She swallowed the cat to catch the bird,
She swallowed the bird to catch the spider;
That wriggled and jiggled and tickled inside her!
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly;
I don't know why she swallowed a fly - Perhaps she'll die!
There was an old lady who swallowed a goat;
Opened her throat and down went the goat!
She swallowed the goat to catch the dog,
She swallowed the dog to catch the cat,
She swallowed the cat to catch the bird,
She swallowed the bird to catch the spider;
That wriggled and jiggled and tickled inside her!
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly;
I don't know why she swallowed a fly - Perhaps she'll die!
There was an old lady who swallowed a cow;
I don't know how she swallowed a cow!
She swallowed the cow to catch the goat,
She swallowed the goat to catch the dog,
She swallowed the dog to catch the cat,
She swallowed the cat to catch the bird,
She swallowed the bird to catch the spider;
That wriggled and jiggled and tickled inside her!
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly;
I don't know why she swallowed a fly - Perhaps she'll die!
There was an old lady who swallowed a horse;
...She's dead, of course!
 
2018-02-08 07:23:50 AM  

Sasquach: I work for the city of Portland invasive species mitigation group so I am really getting a kick out of this headline. Some of you subbys  are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about. But trust me.... You don't. I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you dont know what you are talking about. This is how bad info gets passed around. If you dont know about the topic....Dont make yourself sound like you do. Cuz some Farkers belive anything they hear.


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2018-02-08 07:28:12 AM  
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2018-02-08 07:37:34 AM  
Crows were eating the insulation from building walls.

No, they weren't.  They might have been gathering it for nest building, but they were not eating it.  Birds should not be able to reach building insulation in the first place.  Fix yo dilapidated mess of a building.
 
2018-02-08 07:39:25 AM  

Sasquach: I work for the city of Portland invasive species mitigation group so I am really getting a kick out of this headline. Some of you subbys  are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about. But trust me.... You don't. I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you dont know what you are talking about. This is how bad info gets passed around. If you dont know about the topic....Dont make yourself sound like you do. Cuz some Farkers belive anything they hear.


How is are you guys avoiding collateral damage (small dogs) like what happened in NYC?  Also, it's pretty cold for Harris hawks.
 
2018-02-08 07:41:07 AM  
And they think hawks are going to make a difference? lol  Around here the crows gang up on any bird of prey they see and harass it into leaving the general area, doesn't matter if you're a screech owl trying to catch a few Zzz's or a bald eagle sitting on a tree limb, your ass is going to get harassed until you leave. Corvids are smart, stubborn sumbiatches.
 
2018-02-08 07:41:17 AM  

xebec: Sasquach: I work for the city of Portland invasive species mitigation group so I am really getting a kick out of this headline. Some of you subbys  are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about. But trust me.... You don't. I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you dont know what you are talking about. This is how bad info gets passed around. If you dont know about the topic....Dont make yourself sound like you do. Cuz some Farkers belive anything they hear.

How is are you guys avoiding collateral damage (small dogs) like what happened in NYC?  Also, it's pretty cold for Harris hawks.


Oops, strike that comment...wrong Portland.
 
2018-02-08 07:43:07 AM  
Every evening the crows come to my school. No big deal, right? Except...if you are within 15 miles in any direction, you cam see groups headed that way.
It's estimated up to 10,000 crows show up and they don't land for about an hour: they circle.  The noise is unreal. Eventually some lands in the sports field but the rest land on the building roofs. ALL the roofs.  
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2018-02-08 08:09:24 AM  
Great headline subby! Grade A!
 
2018-02-08 08:10:38 AM  

yuthinasia: Every evening the crows come to my school. No big deal, right? Except...if you are within 15 miles in any direction, you cam see groups headed that way.
It's estimated up to 10,000 crows show up and they don't land for about an hour: they circle.  The noise is unreal. Eventually some lands in the sports field but the rest land on the building roofs. ALL the roofs.  [img.fark.net image 425x239]


Oh, so you don't want em in your school cause they black...  Message received.
 
2018-02-08 08:30:24 AM  

Billy Bathsalt: [img.fark.net image 425x239]

Oh, so you don't want em in your school cause they black...  Message received.


No no no. This is our all black soccer team 😀
 
2018-02-08 08:31:33 AM  

Sasquach: I work for the city of Portland invasive species mitigation group so I am really getting a kick out of this headline. Some of you subbys  are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about. But trust me.... You don't. I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you dont know what you are talking about. This is how bad info gets passed around. If you dont know about the topic....Dont make yourself sound like you do. Cuz some Farkers belive anything they hear.


Or we recognize them as old Simpsons jokes.

/I can't figure out if you're serious because Portland
 
2018-02-08 08:33:46 AM  

Sasquach: I work for the city of Portland invasive species mitigation group so I am really getting a kick out of this headline. Some of you subbys  are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about. But trust me.... You don't. I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you dont know what you are talking about. This is how bad info gets passed around. If you dont know about the topic....Dont make yourself sound like you do. Cuz some Farkers belive anything they hear.


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2018-02-08 08:34:56 AM  

Sasquach: I work for the city of Portland invasive species mitigation group so I am really getting a kick out of this headline. Some of you subbys  are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about. But trust me.... You don't. I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you dont know what you are talking about. This is how bad info gets passed around. If you dont know about the topic....Dont make yourself sound like you do. Cuz some Farkers belive anything they hear.


yuthinasia: Every evening the crows come to my school. No big deal, right? Except...if you are within 15 miles in any direction, you cam see groups headed that way.
It's estimated up to 10,000 crows show up and they don't land for about an hour: they circle.  The noise is unreal. Eventually some lands in the sports field but the rest land on the building roofs. ALL the roofs.  [img.fark.net image 425x239]


In before someone comes in to doubt you. They do the same thing in Seattle. Their favorite tree was on Foster Island IIRC, but now it looks like they go to Bothell. About the same number as yours, 10,000.

I'm surprised no one commented on this from the article: "Poopmaster 6000".
 
2018-02-08 08:38:11 AM  

Poowaddins: And they think hawks are going to make a difference? lol  Around here the crows gang up on any bird of prey they see and harass it into leaving the general area, doesn't matter if you're a screech owl trying to catch a few Zzz's or a bald eagle sitting on a tree limb, your ass is going to get harassed until you leave. Corvids are smart, stubborn sumbiatches.


I was wondering that too. What good are three hawks going to do versus 10,000 crows all roosting together in the same few trees?
 
2018-02-08 08:43:01 AM  
What they really need to do is train some square crows to infiltrate the native hipster crow flocks and start b*tching about how mainstream Portland has become. After a couple months, the flocks will relocate to somewhere with a more fresh quirky vibe.
 
2018-02-08 08:43:04 AM  
The crow shiat--my god, the crow shiat.  So.  Much.  Crow shiat.  I have about a block to walk from the bus stop to my office; I hug the buildings on the way to avoid being shat on.  You can hear it falling from the trees like fat drops of rain.

That one photo in the snow from last year, though, is gorgeous, and it is pretty cool to watch the crows in flight swirling around in the pre-dawn skies.
 
2018-02-08 08:52:13 AM  
Shouldn't they use wildlings to control the crow population?

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2018-02-08 08:59:57 AM  
Might as well jump straight to the dogs with bees in their mouths and when they bark, they shoot bees at you.
 
2018-02-08 09:05:44 AM  
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2018-02-08 09:14:08 AM  
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Get these guys on it
 
2018-02-08 09:43:50 AM  
Introduce dingos
 
2018-02-08 09:48:32 AM  
TFA:
Perhaps most impressively, researchers have shown that crows can remember people who wrong them, for up to five years, and pass that knowledge along to their offspring.

I don't know.  I'm just sayin'.  I hear that it might be time to mess with DC crows while wearing a Trump mask.  They will learn who is Boss.  It'll be beautiful.  Just Beautiful.
 
2018-02-08 09:53:04 AM  
So no need for the Wall now.
 
2018-02-08 10:00:11 AM  

Medic Zero: Sasquach: I work for the city of Portland invasive species mitigation group so I am really getting a kick out of this headline. Some of you subbys  are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about. But trust me.... You don't. I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you dont know what you are talking about. This is how bad info gets passed around. If you dont know about the topic....Dont make yourself sound like you do. Cuz some Farkers belive anything they hear.

yuthinasia: Every evening the crows come to my school. No big deal, right? Except...if you are within 15 miles in any direction, you cam see groups headed that way.
It's estimated up to 10,000 crows show up and they don't land for about an hour: they circle.  The noise is unreal. Eventually some lands in the sports field but the rest land on the building roofs. ALL the roofs.  [img.fark.net image 425x239]

In before someone comes in to doubt you. They do the same thing in Seattle. Their favorite tree was on Foster Island IIRC, but now it looks like they go to Bothell. About the same number as yours, 10,000.

I'm surprised no one commented on this from the article: "Poopmaster 6000".


Yup, bothell. It's a pretty recent thing, maybe last 6 years or so. My office is on an upper floor looking towards that.
 
2018-02-08 10:11:14 AM  

Tempted: I hear that it might be time to mess with DC crows while wearing a Trump mask. They will learn who is Boss. It'll be beautiful. Just Beautiful.

They'd be able to tell the difference. That said, knowing how he treats others, crows probably already hate the guy.

So, Portland plans to beat brains with brawn?  Good luck with that.
 
2018-02-08 10:24:12 AM  
Wow, the "I work for.." meme. A true classic.
 
2018-02-08 10:25:16 AM  

xebec: Sasquach: I work for the city of Portland invasive species mitigation group so I am really getting a kick out of this headline. Some of you subbys  are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about. But trust me.... You don't. I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you dont know what you are talking about. This is how bad info gets passed around. If you dont know about the topic....Dont make yourself sound like you do. Cuz some Farkers belive anything they hear.

How is are you guys avoiding collateral damage (small dogs) like what happened in NYC?


I'd call that an unintended benefit
 
2018-02-08 10:32:29 AM  

Sasquach: I work for the city of Portland invasive species mitigation group so I am really getting a kick out of this headline. Some of you subbys  are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about. But trust me.... You don't. I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you dont know what you are talking about. This is how bad info gets passed around. If you dont know about the topic....Dont make yourself sound like you do. Cuz some Farkers belive anything they hear.


As someone who lives in a Portland neighborhood with plenty of crows I am interested in good information. What do you think of the program and its chances of making a difference? Is there anything grossly inaccurate in the article? The number of crows in the Metro area is a problem, but since they are native why are they handled by an invasive species mitigation group?
 
2018-02-08 10:44:17 AM  

TsarTom: Sasquach: I work for the city of Portland invasive species mitigation group so I am really getting a kick out of this headline. Some of you subbys  are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about. But trust me.... You don't. I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you dont know what you are talking about. This is how bad info gets passed around. If you dont know about the topic....Dont make yourself sound like you do. Cuz some Farkers belive anything they hear.

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LOL, sounds like you need your own 'Welcome to Fark'.
 
2018-02-08 11:06:35 AM  

koder: fusillade762: Crows were eating the insulation from building walls.

Sounds like that would be a self-correcting problem.

I doubt they were eating it. Crows are much smarter than that and we're likely using it to line a nest.  They "ate" it temporarily.

The hawks are innate hunters with instinct to kill, but they've been trained not to and they pose no risk to the crows.

Good.  Unlike with like the other 90% of otherwise-brainless birds, I'd have taken serious issue with them killing crows--not like crows can't dance circles around most hawks anyway.  They're like orcas in my book: self-aware, intelligent, and have culture means they're on the same level as at least a dumb human and thus deserve nearly-if-not equal respect.

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I had a family of crows build their nest about 15 feet from my bedroom window a few years ago.  They were fascinating to watch.  They seemed to have quite a complex social structure, with a nuclear family raising the kids and a considerable extended family that would show up for visits.
 
2018-02-08 11:16:29 AM  
What's up with downtown Portland's crows?
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2018-02-08 11:46:20 AM  
Yeah I don't see this lasting that long.  We have Harris hawks and crows who live in the tall trees by my house.  This is a two-way war, sometimes the hawks chase the crows, sometimes the other way around.  Harris hawks really aren't too much bigger.
 
2018-02-08 12:07:17 PM  
The crows aren't the problem. It's the farking pigeons and white trash that infest the place unchecked
 
2018-02-08 01:43:47 PM  

Sasquach: I work for the city of Portland invasive species mitigation group so I am really getting a kick out of this headline. Some of you subbys  are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about. But trust me.... You don't. I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you dont know what you are talking about. This is how bad info gets passed around. If you dont know about the topic....Dont make yourself sound like you do. Cuz some Farkers belive anything they hear.


I notice the people giving you a hard time don't actually live in Portland.  I've also noticed a lot of red-taileds on the light poles on just about every freeway in Portland.  I presume they eat mostly pigeons.  Do they effect the crows?
 
2018-02-08 02:00:28 PM  
I don't know about hawks but I do notice the small murder of crows that hangs around my office takes off for at least a week whenever a flock of wild turkeys show up.
 
2018-02-08 03:23:58 PM  
Ok, I know some of you have been around long enough to have seen the meme Sasquach was channeling.
 
2018-02-08 10:35:40 PM  

Zafler: Ok, I know some of you have been around long enough to have seen the meme Sasquach was channeling.


THANK YOU

I was beginning to think it was obscure....

/he said to a dead thread
 
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