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(The Daily Beast)   In something that isn't totally worrisome ICE wants to become an intelligent agency under Trump   ( thedailybeast.com) divider line
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2018-02-08 12:54:36 AM  
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Maybe get them some fancy new uniforms, too.
 
2018-02-08 01:01:37 AM  
Officials at Immigration and Customs Enforcement are actively exploring joining the U.S. Intelligence Community,

The NSA, CIA, FBI, DIA, INR, and others favor the idea of an agency with special needs joining the intelligence community in spirit and have even offered transportation arrangements:

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2018-02-08 01:09:53 AM  
 
2018-02-08 03:15:35 AM  
Why's that?  Trump gets all he knows from Fox & Friends.
 
2018-02-08 03:24:44 AM  
In all of my years I have yet to encounter a single organization that wasn't infatuated with sucking its own dick. In the age of Trump the only thing that has changed is that they no longer try to conceal their true porpoise.

/brother, can you spare a bukkit?
 
2018-02-08 03:27:47 AM  
Fark ICE gently with a chainsaw.

/destroyed my family
/makes the DEA look like the ACLU
 
2018-02-08 03:29:48 AM  
I doubt they could ever become an intelligent agency.

And particularly not under an unintelligent president.

/gonna look like a dumb comment if a modmin edits the headline
//still gonna mock subby though
///threeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
 
2018-02-08 03:59:13 AM  
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2018-02-08 04:00:38 AM  
Well, I totally did not see THAT coming.
 
2018-02-08 04:02:45 AM  
ICE and intelligence dont belong in the same sentence
 
2018-02-08 04:11:08 AM  
What possible justification could ICE have for classified information that shouldn't already be under the jurisdiction of the FBI?
 
2018-02-08 04:12:13 AM  
...isn't.....intelligent.....Trump..

/seems legit
 
2018-02-08 04:13:34 AM  
They should get themselves some nice brown shirts.

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2018-02-08 04:13:59 AM  
Secret bigot man

Secret big-ot man

You'll deport illegals

if they have a tan

 
2018-02-08 04:20:03 AM  
Yeah sure.  They can just stick a giant sign on the intel room that says : No corrupt ICE officers allowed in this room at any time.  That'll work.  Surely.
 
2018-02-08 04:45:09 AM  
The only way that you become more intelligent is when your challenged.
I can't really picture this president challenging anyone. Especially intellectually.
 
2018-02-08 04:59:35 AM  
In the capital of NY, you often see vehicles that say "Office of General Services" aka "OGS". From the first time I saw that, I thought it would be a great name for the secret police in a future dystopia. Heck, maybe it already is...
 
2018-02-08 05:31:06 AM  

itcamefromschenectady: In the capital of NY, you often see vehicles that say "Office of General Services" aka "OGS". From the first time I saw that, I thought it would be a great name for the secret police in a future dystopia. Heck, maybe it already is...


Original Gangsters
 
2018-02-08 05:39:37 AM  
He wants the to have a big parade so he can honor them.

At night.

Lots of torches.
 
2018-02-08 05:44:50 AM  
ICE has for the past decade been keenly interested in joining the Intelligence Community," Peter Vincent, general counsel for ICE under the Obama administration, told The Daily Beast. "ICE officials have felt that by doing so, they would have greater prestige and credibility and authority."

I could see many actual, perfectly rationale notions for joining the intelligence sector, though I'm not convinced that they would be worth it.

But of all the reasons to pick, "Because nobody respects us!" is not one. And the actual reason that their particular little phrase is for, is, "Because we can't coerce local PD's to do our work for us like FBI could!" They wanna show up like an FBI agent in a Hollywood movie, flash a badge and commandeer the local SWAT team to arrest hotel housekeeping departments and restaurant back of house staff?
Yeah, no.
 
2018-02-08 05:51:09 AM  
They should be required to display some first.
 
2018-02-08 06:00:45 AM  

starsrift: ICE has for the past decade been keenly interested in joining the Intelligence Community," Peter Vincent, general counsel for ICE under the Obama administration, told The Daily Beast. "ICE officials have felt that by doing so, they would have greater prestige and credibility and authority."

I could see many actual, perfectly rationale notions for joining the intelligence sector, though I'm not convinced that they would be worth it.

But of all the reasons to pick, "Because nobody respects us!" is not one. And the actual reason that their particular little phrase is for, is, "Because we can't coerce local PD's to do our work for us like FBI could!" They wanna show up like an FBI agent in a Hollywood movie, flash a badge and commandeer the local SWAT team to arrest hotel housekeeping departments and restaurant back of house staff?
Yeah, no.


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2018-02-08 06:11:02 AM  
I'd hate to paint all that work for ICE this way, but it seems like they are comprised of the FBI/CIA/NSA rejects.
 
2018-02-08 06:21:51 AM  

Nuc_E: I'd hate to paint all that work for ICE this way, but it seems like they are comprised of the FBI/CIA/NSA rejects.


Not so much CIA and NSA, those agencies do most of their hiring via recruitment.  ICE is more those officers from police departments who "wanted to go Federal" but couldn't get hired by FBI, DEA, ATF, etc.  Once you're in the federal system, it's much easier to lateral over to another one.  So they figure they'll do ICE for a couple years and try one of the other agencies again.
 
2018-02-08 06:31:11 AM  
That's about as smart as a Brain Freeze.
 
2018-02-08 07:02:22 AM  

SomeFarkinFarmgirl: ...isn't.....intelligent.....Trump..

/seems legit


DemonEater: I doubt they could ever become an intelligent agency.

And particularly not under an unintelligent president.

/gonna look like a dumb comment if a modmin edits the headline
//still gonna mock subby though
///threeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee


The journalists need to put "quotes" around the words "intelligence" for anything involving Trump or the GOP.  As a sort of passive-aggressive ridicule.

So you can say ICE wishes to join the "intelligence" community.

or even better

Republican House "Intelligence" Committee Chairman Devin Nunes,

See how it works?
 
2018-02-08 07:19:39 AM  
Well, that's terrifying.
 
2018-02-08 07:34:47 AM  
Well, ANY agency is intelligent compared to Trump.
 
2018-02-08 07:56:58 AM  
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The man who started it all.
 
2018-02-08 08:04:37 AM  
I wish you wouldn't use the words 'American Intelligence' to describe what you do.
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2018-02-08 08:42:29 AM  
The Fascist Police State moving forward, it's the GOP that is pushing this through fear and false narratives. Don't vote republican, they deem the people as the subordinate class to be ruled. For them to stay in office they will do what they want for themselves.
 
2018-02-08 08:43:12 AM  
That headline is a whole flock of oxymorons.
 
2018-02-08 08:46:49 AM  
They seem to be pushing and pushing towards a tipping point. It's almost like there's this rush to a civil war... The hyper-polarization between the Right Wing and Everyone Else. Women's rights, theocratic leanings, racism, immigration, health care... all of it.

Feels a lot like this getting kicked off:
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2018-02-08 09:22:29 AM  

fusillade762: [img.fark.net image 736x568]

Maybe get them some fancy new uniforms, too.


This. ICE has already gone full Gestapo with rounding up dangerous criminals like disabled hospitalized children and respected schoolteachers, so not at all surprised they're trying to go straight to Schutzstaffel plaid.
 
2018-02-08 09:25:04 AM  
Why would ICE want to be part of the Deep State (tm)?
 
2018-02-08 09:36:20 AM  

koder: Officials at Immigration and Customs Enforcement are actively exploring joining the U.S. Intelligence Community,

The NSA, CIA, FBI, DIA, INR, and others favor the idea of an agency with special needs joining the intelligence community in spirit and have even offered transportation arrangements:

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ICE is the old name.  New name is:

Government Enhanced Security and Threats Analysis Policing Organization
 
2018-02-08 09:44:22 AM  
Trump wants a secret police force that are loyal only to him, so this could happen.
 
2018-02-08 09:44:28 AM  
Let's just be thankful that Trump and his Teatard lackies in Congress aren't competent enough to ever set up such an agency with any legal standing.
 
2018-02-08 10:00:01 AM  

bobug: They seem to be pushing and pushing towards a tipping point. It's almost like there's this rush to a civil war... The hyper-polarization between the Right Wing and Everyone Else. Women's rights, theocratic leanings, racism, immigration, health care... all of it.

Feels a lot like this getting kicked off:
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You are watching the end of the old America as we knew it and the start of something new, or possibly several somethings if the blue states get their heads out of their asses and defends itself.  This will either be a nearly bloodless divorce that leads to new countries and new borders, right down political lines.
Or.
Quite possibly the largest and most brutal civil war in world history.  Honestly I have no idea which side is going to lose the most people in the pogroms but one side or the other is going to lose enough people to never be able to win an election again.  All within the next few elections.  It will make the Holocaust look quaint by the time it is over.  We will either be running out of liberals or running out of rednecks, there will likely be 0 compromise from either side.

Most Americans can not fathom how badly Putin has farked us.  He should be doing victory laps around the planet.
 
2018-02-08 10:07:34 AM  
Fun fact: Trump has a degree in Economics
 
2018-02-08 10:25:39 AM  

edmo: Fun fact: Trump has a degree in Economics


Macro, micro, voodoo, or bullshiat?
 
2018-02-08 11:23:53 AM  
I say we amend the Constitution to prevent people that received deferments from holding public office.  If you weren't ready to serve during wartime, you aren't qualified to hold office.
 
2018-02-08 11:41:42 AM  
Gee, an intelligence agency where an antagonistic attitude towards brown people is practically a prerequisite to join; I wonder why they want something like that?
 
2018-02-08 12:02:36 PM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: I say we amend the Constitution to prevent people that received deferments from holding public office.  If you weren't ready to serve during wartime, you aren't qualified to hold office.


I'd be satisfied with a provision that you have to release your tax records to run.
 
2018-02-08 12:07:18 PM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: I say we amend the Constitution to prevent people that received deferments from holding public office.  If you weren't ready to serve during wartime, you aren't qualified to hold office.


Right. No more people in wheelchairs for god's sake.
 
2018-02-08 12:49:20 PM  
Called it.

I literally predicted this in a Fark thread like 2 weeks ago.

/Is there a way to search your old comments? I'd love to link back to this.
 
2018-02-08 12:55:45 PM  
As long as it's this guy, I have no problem.
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2018-02-08 10:47:49 PM  

CthulhuCalling: As long as it's this guy, I have no problem.
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I hate to tell you this but Mr. Cool ICE is dead. He died a few years ago in a car accident. :(
 
2018-02-09 10:04:40 AM  

AgentKGB: CthulhuCalling: As long as it's this guy, I have no problem.
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I hate to tell you this but Mr. Cool ICE is dead. He died a few years ago in a car accident. :(


I was surprised to hear this, but can't find anything other than Interwebs rumor that this actually happened. Maybe my Google-fu is weak today.
 
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