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(The Nation)   This just in: If you're white, you're racist. If you're white and you never do, say or think anything racist and you treat everyone equally and fairly--well, then you're super-duper racist because you're just avoiding your racism   ( thenation.com) divider line
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2018-02-07 07:38:15 PM  
Oh goody. Another purity test. You can be consciously and proactively anti-racist but that just means you're pretending not to be racist?
 
2018-02-07 07:42:30 PM  
It checks out. I'm white and a little racist.

Mostly because I just hate white people so much. Those racist crackers.
 
2018-02-07 07:45:34 PM  
Everyone's a Little Bit Racist
Youtube th4FMmNQpAk
 
2018-02-07 07:54:38 PM  
Is this another "individual" vs. "institutional" racism thing?

*click*

Yarp.

GFY Subby.
 
2018-02-07 08:03:19 PM  
How can I be racist if I hate everyone?
 
2018-02-07 08:04:38 PM  

Sensei Can You See: Oh goody. Another purity test. You can be consciously and proactively anti-racist but that just means you're pretending not to be racist?


Pretty much
 
2018-02-07 08:08:43 PM  
"The dominant liberal conception of white anti-racism emphasizes altruism. In this mode, white people must set aside our own self-interest in order to extend kindness to those less fortunate. Humanitarian assistance is rewarded, and those who practice it are hailed for their self-sacrifice and generosity."

WTF is this shiat?
 
2018-02-07 08:12:33 PM  

Nirbo: It checks out. I'm white and a little racist.

Mostly because I just hate white people so much. Those racist crackers.


F*ck honkies
 
2018-02-07 08:12:54 PM  
I have a feeling I'm not coming across here as I intend to.

I apologize if anyone is misreading my meaning.

I mean: fark those white people that think by helping people from other races you're somehow "setting aside your own self interest"

That's a load of bullshiat.
 
2018-02-07 08:20:05 PM  
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All the nations of the earth must learn to live together in peace. Why be prejudiced against anyone because of their race, nationality, or creed? When there's so many real reasons to hate others. -- Emo Philips

 
2018-02-07 08:22:24 PM  
Okay. So I did a couple of those ancestry/DNA things and they all show that great-great-grandfather (father's side) were Zulu. Does that give me license? Or can I just quietly snerk to myself?
 
2018-02-07 08:36:22 PM  
There's research showing that nearly all Americans have implicit racial bias.  The best we can do is try to be aware of our biases and not let them control our decision making.

If you want to live in denial about it, fine.

Well, not fine, because you'll discriminate on the basis of race without even being aware of it.
 
2018-02-07 08:36:47 PM  
I'm not racist, because there are so many great reasons to dislike people on an individual basis. My hatred is individually crafted, artisanal, and far too valuable to waste just throwing it around on the basis of meaningless categories like the amount of melanin in one's skin or the shape of one's eyes or the geopolitical region in which one was born. Why should I waste this epic talent for disdain caring about whose ass one finds sexy or which particular flavor of reality administrator one reports to?

To borrow a sentiment from Heinlein, my hatred is an emotion so black the nearest normal equivalent could only be described as mild distaste.

So I've got to dish it out the way the true geniuses of the past did, with abandon and true artistry. I'm not cranking out the hate equivalent of mass-produced discount motel room artwork. I'm talking Sistine Chapel levels of grind here. Ten years, on a scaffold, on my back, crafting an immortal masterpiece that will live through the ages.

I mean, I would. if I hated anyone. Why bother? It's frankly exhausting.
 
2018-02-07 08:43:12 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: [img.fark.net image 400x400]

All the nations of the earth must learn to live together in peace. Why be prejudiced against anyone because of their race, nationality, or creed? When there's so many real reasons to hate others. -- Emo Philips


He's on tour with Weird Al right now.

/Can't wait!
 
2018-02-07 08:43:15 PM  
I spent all day listening to Wagner's Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg and now I'm racist as hell.

Also, now I can write a song that doesn't suck so I can win the girl's heart.
 
2018-02-07 08:44:43 PM  

PirateKing: I'm not racist, because there are so many great reasons to dislike people on an individual basis. My hatred is individually crafted, artisanal, and far too valuable to waste just throwing it around on the basis of meaningless categories like the amount of melanin in one's skin or the shape of one's eyes or the geopolitical region in which one was born. Why should I waste this epic talent for disdain caring about whose ass one finds sexy or which particular flavor of reality administrator one reports to?

To borrow a sentiment from Heinlein, my hatred is an emotion so black the nearest normal equivalent could only be described as mild distaste.

So I've got to dish it out the way the true geniuses of the past did, with abandon and true artistry. I'm not cranking out the hate equivalent of mass-produced discount motel room artwork. I'm talking Sistine Chapel levels of grind here. Ten years, on a scaffold, on my back, crafting an immortal masterpiece that will live through the ages.

I mean, I would. if I hated anyone. Why bother? It's frankly exhausting.


That was quite entertaining.
 
2018-02-07 08:48:22 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: [img.fark.net image 400x400]
All the nations of the earth must learn to live together in peace. Why be prejudiced against anyone because of their race, nationality, or creed? When there's so many real reasons to hate others. -- Emo Philips


He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912." I said, "Die, heretic!" And I pushed him over.
 
2018-02-07 09:15:40 PM  

HedlessChickn: "The dominant liberal conception of white anti-racism emphasizes altruism. In this mode, white people must set aside our own self-interest in order to extend kindness to those less fortunate. Humanitarian assistance is rewarded, and those who practice it are hailed for their self-sacrifice and generosity."

WTF is this shiat?


That would be the definition of altruism?

HedlessChickn: I have a feeling I'm not coming across here as I intend to.

I apologize if anyone is misreading my meaning.

I mean: fark those white people that think by helping people from other races you're somehow "setting aside your own self interest"

That's a load of bullshiat.


Oh, I see. Well, yes, as the article opined - help others, you help yourself.
 
2018-02-07 10:42:09 PM  
Trying to read that made the lingering headache I've had all day worse. I'm going to take a nap.
 
2018-02-07 10:57:34 PM  

HighOnCraic: ecmoRandomNumbers: [img.fark.net image 400x400]
All the nations of the earth must learn to live together in peace. Why be prejudiced against anyone because of their race, nationality, or creed? When there's so many real reasons to hate others. -- Emo Philips

He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912." I said, "Die, heretic!" And I pushed him over.


I used to think that the human brain was the most amazing thing in the universe, then I realized who was telling me that
 
2018-02-07 10:58:40 PM  
I'm a tribalist. I'm suspicious and leery of anyone who isn't a member of my tribe.
 
2018-02-07 10:59:32 PM  

Sid_6.7: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/th4FMmNQ​pAk]


Welp, I guess I don't need to post that now.
 
2018-02-07 11:02:50 PM  

catusr: I'm a tribalist. I'm suspicious and leery of anyone who isn't a member of my tribe.


To be fair, most of us are. It's kind of how we're wired. It takes some training to expand on that. And most of us just don't bother with it. We're jumped up plains dwelling primates, who occasionally spent some time near water and adapted to a few other environments, but overall, we haven't really evolved beyond those primates that ran down prey animals by just running them to death.
 
2018-02-07 11:11:49 PM  

catusr: I'm a tribalist. I'm suspicious and leery of anyone who isn't a member of my tribe.


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2018-02-07 11:37:14 PM  
Love.  This.  Headline


/Wish I'd written it
 
2018-02-07 11:46:53 PM  
I'm not racist, but I'm too weak to shake some stereotypes I have of people - and not just race-based either.
 
2018-02-08 12:04:36 AM  

HedlessChickn: How can I be racist if I hate everyone?


Nice try, amateur.
 
2018-02-08 12:56:07 AM  
Kind of like anyone who drinks is an alcoholic, and anyone who doesn't drink is trying to recover from alcoholism.
 
2018-02-08 12:57:09 AM  
Yes, and because I have a penis I can never escape my male privilege.
Purity tests are why Trump is president.
 
2018-02-08 01:02:22 AM  
I admit that I'm slightly more likely to cross to the other side of the street if the drunk crazy person that coming towards me is black. But slightly less likely if that person is Latino than if they're white. I've been around a lot of drunk crazy Latinos and know how to deal with them.

So does that balance out?
 
2018-02-08 01:02:24 AM  
What if you are only half white?  What  if your biology is white, but you identify as someone or sometwo not white?  What if you are just a brain in a jar with wires stimulating it?  What if you are blind from birth, raised by robots, and don't know what color you are?
 
2018-02-08 01:02:40 AM  
I'm white.  My wife is brown (African father Scottish mother).  Our children are pretty white, but we live in a sufficiently progressive suburb that the identification thing is pretty moot for them.
One of their favourite retorts to instructions (tidy your room, say), is 'RACIST!'.  They apply this to their mother as well.  And accept it as a retalition from me to insolence.
I love my kids.
 
2018-02-08 01:04:38 AM  

8 inches: Love.  This.  Headline


/Wish I'd written it


get woke and appropriate it
 
2018-02-08 01:04:49 AM  
Trump isn't racist, Trump is an opportunist.  And he sees opportunity in pandering to ideology that appeals to, among others, racists.  Trump is also an infant and as such he can't make the distinction between bad supporters and worse supporters so he tries to be friends with all of them and thus comes off looking, among other terrible things, racist.
 
2018-02-08 01:06:11 AM  
*Abe Simpson walks into a cathouse.gif*

nope
 
2018-02-08 01:06:58 AM  
Anyone who drives faster than me is a maniac and anyone who drives slower than me is a moron.
 
2018-02-08 01:06:59 AM  
The reaction to Trump's "shiathole countries" comment was interesting.  While it was crass and not presidential I didn't see it as racist, at least taken in isolation.  He didn't say anything about anybody's race.  He just described those countries in a way that 99% of us know is perfectly accurate.  For some reason, there is a certain segment of the population that thinks that if you say anything negative about anything even remotely related to people of color then you are racist.  Some drunk guy who happens to be black kills someone in a dui and you call him an asshole that belongs in jail? Well, you are racist.  You think that some fashion that is predominantly worn by mexicans is ugly? You racist!!  State the obvious and call some shiathole countries shiatholes?  Yep, you are racist.

Not saying I like Trump or agree with his policies.  Folks from those countries should be on equal footing when it comes to immigration options.  That doesn't change the fact that they come from shiathole countries though.
 
2018-02-08 01:07:04 AM  
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2018-02-08 01:07:22 AM  
Is it so hard to understand that we are all human, and we are all the humans there are in a huge universe, so lets not be dicks to each other?
 
2018-02-08 01:07:41 AM  
Article: "White liberals need to stop acting like racism is a personal fault some people have, and need to refocus on the big-picture problems caused by policies and social structures designed to have unequal outcomes."

Fark headline: "This author says we should be calling more people racist."

Fark commenters: "I'm not racist but"
 
2018-02-08 01:08:01 AM  
Well isn't this bait for the turd waffles.
 
2018-02-08 01:09:35 AM  

Dave2042: I'm white.  My wife is brown (African father Scottish mother).  Our children are pretty white, but we live in a sufficiently progressive suburb that the identification thing is pretty moot for them.
One of their favourite retorts to instructions (tidy your room, say), is 'RACIST!'.  They apply this to their mother as well.  And accept it as a retalition from me to insolence.
I love my kids.


Progressive or homogenous?
 
2018-02-08 01:13:27 AM  

FDR Jones: Dave2042: I'm white.  My wife is brown (African father Scottish mother).  Our children are pretty white, but we live in a sufficiently progressive suburb that the identification thing is pretty moot for them.
One of their favourite retorts to instructions (tidy your room, say), is 'RACIST!'.  They apply this to their mother as well.  And accept it as a retalition from me to insolence.
I love my kids.

Progressive or homogenous?


Very progressive.  Racially fairly homogenous.  Very gender/sexuality diverse.  Significant indigenous population.  Gentrified but with plenty of at-risk public housing.
 
2018-02-08 01:14:05 AM  

Ima4nic8or: The reaction to Trump's "shiathole countries" comment was interesting.  While it was crass and not presidential I didn't see it as racist, at least taken in isolation.  He didn't say anything about anybody's race.  He just described those countries in a way that 99% of us know is perfectly accurate.


Trump: "I would veto this bipartisan immigration bill because it does not discriminate against applicants from 'shiathole' countries such as Haiti and the very famous country of Africa. We need to give preference to people from Norway."

You: "That isn't racist. Africa -- all of Africa -- is shiat, as I know from my extensive investigations, and therefore it is certainly true that we should be admitting fewer engineers, doctors, nurses and other skilled professionals from any of its countries, even though the average African immigrant in real life is better educated and has better economic prospects than the average American. They simply cannot overcome the stink of their shiathole birthplace."
 
2018-02-08 01:16:09 AM  

8 inches: Love.  This.  Headline


/Wish I'd written it


Has. Nothing. To. Do. With. The. Article.

/Wish anyone'd read it
 
2018-02-08 01:16:19 AM  
"Hell is... Other people."
/love existential stuff - yay Sartre!
 
2018-02-08 01:16:24 AM  

SomeAmerican: Is it so hard to understand that we are all human, and we are all the humans there are in a huge universe, so lets not be dicks to each other?


I'm Just A Human Being
Youtube _Yjd1hLJSKg


You sure it's not the glasses?
 
2018-02-08 01:18:12 AM  

HedlessChickn: "The dominant liberal conception of white anti-racism emphasizes altruism. In this mode, white people must set aside our own self-interest in order to extend kindness to those less fortunate. Humanitarian assistance is rewarded, and those who practice it are hailed for their self-sacrifice and generosity."

WTF is this shiat?


Set aside your self interest of being an anonymous wage slave barely scraping by and extend kindness to those that are somehow both less fortunate and in the same boat as you at the same time
 
2018-02-08 01:18:29 AM  

Raoul Eaton: There's research showing that nearly all Americans have implicit racial bias.  The best we can do is try to be aware of our biases and not let them control our decision making.

If you want to live in denial about it, fine.

Well, not fine, because you'll discriminate on the basis of race without even being aware of it.


A link to a list of best practices that make us aware of our implicit biases would've been nice.
 
2018-02-08 01:21:35 AM  

PirateKing: I mean, I would. if I hated anyone. Why bother? It's frankly exhausting.


Nothing one values ever comes into being without great effort.  it's worth it, believe me.
 
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