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2018-02-07 03:21:17 PM  
Either Kilgrave went to Tahiti or he's taken up residence in Jessica's head.
 
2018-02-07 03:47:47 PM  

texdent: Either Kilgrave went to Tahiti or he's taken up residence in Jessica's head.


It's a magical place.
 
2018-02-07 04:10:05 PM  

foo monkey: texdent: Either Kilgrave went to Tahiti or he's taken up residence in Jessica's head.

It's a magical place.


Which?
 
2018-02-07 04:16:10 PM  
Anybody else feel that while it's cool Marvel puts series on Netflix that they're generally about five episodes too long?
 
2018-02-07 04:24:14 PM  
No it's not some weird fetish that I think that pretty goth girls beating up guys is hot. So shut up!
 
2018-02-07 04:42:52 PM  

Wadded Beef: Anybody else feel that while it's cool Marvel puts series on Netflix that they're generally about five episodes too long?


Every. Single. Time.

On top of being too many episodes, some of the individual episodes are about 10-15 minutes too long. I like the Netflix series overall, but their pacing needs a lot of work.
 
2018-02-07 04:48:55 PM  
I've been looking forward to this for a while. Don't get me wrong, I really liked what they did with Daredevil, and Luke Cage for certain, and the more thoughtful and careful Punisher series was well done, and while I may be in the minority, I liked The Defenders run too, even WITH Danny Rand. I'll cop to Iron Fist being the weakest of these interconnected shows, but it wasn't terrible, in my opinion. But of all of them, Jessica Jones was the one that became my favorite of them all. Daredevil started it all, and it was really well done, and it's the one that set the bar, until Jessica Jones said, "Yeah, you can do all the action stuff you want, but I'm going to crush the feels" portion of the show. Superheroine with PTSD, an alcoholic, AND given life by Krysten Ritter? Plus ebbil David Tennant? What was NOT to like? Especially, with a Luke Cage series in the works, to give hope that their arc in the comics would come through?

I only hope that we can finally see Jessica Jones finally fly. Poorly at first, I hope. Because that fits with the ongoing themes within the Netflix streetlevel heroes. They've already thrown a bone to the Jewel identity, and the Knightress and Power Woman monikers. Ritter has killed it in her own series, and The Defenders. By far, the most engaging of these series, because she's such a damaged soul. She's got good reason to be the surly malcontent that the character is now, but likewise, there are the seeds for a brighter Jessica Jones from the later books as well. It's nice to see a mature take on genre. She's not even a reluctant hero, she's downright afraid to step into those shoes, and for good reason, and Ritter has made the role her own, and I'm looking forward to how they're going to move the character forward.
 
2018-02-07 05:24:38 PM  
I think they are figuring out how to do a streaming show. One that releases all at once, but still hits the stride of what the audience wants... at the same time the audience is also figuring this out.

Altered Carbon and Defenders both benefited from the Marvel Roundup as we've seen it play... I figure JJS2 will be solid, as will be DDS4.
 
2018-02-07 05:46:06 PM  

Myrdinn: I think they are figuring out how to do a streaming show. One that releases all at once, but still hits the stride of what the audience wants... at the same time the audience is also figuring this out.

Altered Carbon and Defenders both benefited from the Marvel Roundup as we've seen it play... I figure JJS2 will be solid, as will be DDS4.


A streaming show IS a little different. There is sort of a need to keep momentum going. You still need to build that up, to set your hooks, but steaming shows in the Netflix style format, they KNOW that a chunk of the audience is going to mainline the whole damn thing in a marathon. They don't need cliffhangers in the traditional sense to get you tune in next week. It means rather than a reaction shot at the end of an episode, you can have the reaction, and take a beat, and give the reveal right there. Let it sink in for a second. Which then compels you to hit the next episode button before it ticks down a few seconds. It's a better Skinner Box than the week to week model, and it KEEPS Netflix running, and showing programs, which keeps views up and rolling. Hulu, with their model, is STILL linked to week to week episodes, and their format is still linked to traditional TV styles.

The thing is, while folks are locked on their shows in marathons, they AREN'T watching anything else. That slices off audience share for other platforms, especially for certain demographics. You can almost feel the Netflix execs chuckling as folks DON'T even turn on their DVRs on for other shows during a drop for an original like The Ranch or Disjointed. You have to wonder if there are considerations traded as they cut deals for seasons of network shows on what they will or won't drop during certain calendar dates, to give their network partners a break on eyeballs on screens for certain show dates. Netflix is a big ugly gorilla in the room now, even though they're not competing for traditional ratings for ad space. Hulu is still tied to the ad model, and they keep their shows available to stream marathons, but it's still different because of the ad breaks. Netflix can dispense with the usual network show beats that are forced by those ad breaks, which puts them more in line with the premium cable show models, but even then, they aren't looking at locking folks down to a certain time frame for an episodic show. They can just drop the whole thing down, and *boom* watch however you want. Which is a boon for storytelling, because you can keep momentum rolling on a show, and KNOW that your audience is going to be right in the moment, for hours at a time, just soaking up the environment and the characters. It's different even from the cable model, by just a titch...
 
2018-02-07 05:59:57 PM  

Wadded Beef: Anybody else feel that while it's cool Marvel puts series on Netflix that they're generally about five episodes too long?


Everyone feels that way.
 
2018-02-07 06:01:30 PM  
I'm glad we're finally getting season 2, but wow, they took their time on this one.  I'm both angry at the wait and excited to see this.  My favorite Marvel show by far.

And no, that wasn't Killgrave at the end.  Maybe it was his doppelganger Murdercorpse.
 
2018-02-07 06:02:04 PM  
Good,  Moar Jessica Jones, MOAR.

Why is it my favorite?

MOAR
 
2018-02-07 06:14:31 PM  
THIS to all of the above, and:

I'm ridiculously happy that (it looks like) we're finally going Hellcat out of Patsy in this one.
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2018-02-07 06:25:20 PM  

Uncle Pooky: Wadded Beef: Anybody else feel that while it's cool Marvel puts series on Netflix that they're generally about five episodes too long?

Everyone feels that way.


Speak for yourself.
 
2018-02-07 06:27:00 PM  
As much as I think the Killgrave arc should stay as an emotional threat to Jessica, rather than a physical threat, I'm afraid the lines about how she was dead and was brought back mysteriously are sadly likely foreshadowing...
 
2018-02-07 06:45:26 PM  
Dat ass!
 
2018-02-07 06:48:45 PM  

Wadded Beef: Anybody else feel that while it's cool Marvel puts series on Netflix that they're generally about five episodes too long?


The defenders was about right. Luke Cage was really tedious after cotton Mouth died. Jessica Jones was padded by 8 episodes worth. Iron fist took forever to get going.
 
2018-02-07 06:54:14 PM  

hubiestubert: I've been looking forward to this for a while. Don't get me wrong, I really liked what they did with Daredevil, and Luke Cage for certain, and the more thoughtful and careful Punisher series was well done, and while I may be in the minority, I liked The Defenders run too, even WITH Danny Rand. I'll cop to Iron Fist being the weakest of these interconnected shows, but it wasn't terrible, in my opinion. But of all of them, Jessica Jones was the one that became my favorite of them all. Daredevil started it all, and it was really well done, and it's the one that set the bar, until Jessica Jones said, "Yeah, you can do all the action stuff you want, but I'm going to crush the feels" portion of the show. Superheroine with PTSD, an alcoholic, AND given life by Krysten Ritter? Plus ebbil David Tennant? What was NOT to like? Especially, with a Luke Cage series in the works, to give hope that their arc in the comics would come through?

I only hope that we can finally see Jessica Jones finally fly. Poorly at first, I hope. Because that fits with the ongoing themes within the Netflix streetlevel heroes. They've already thrown a bone to the Jewel identity, and the Knightress and Power Woman monikers. Ritter has killed it in her own series, and The Defenders. By far, the most engaging of these series, because she's such a damaged soul. She's got good reason to be the surly malcontent that the character is now, but likewise, there are the seeds for a brighter Jessica Jones from the later books as well. It's nice to see a mature take on genre. She's not even a reluctant hero, she's downright afraid to step into those shoes, and for good reason, and Ritter has made the role her own, and I'm looking forward to how they're going to move the character forward.


Look, you're supposed to hide the references in your comment, not bold them.
Negative five.
 
2018-02-07 06:55:22 PM  

darkmythology: As much as I think the Killgrave arc should stay as an emotional threat to Jessica, rather than a physical threat, I'm afraid the lines about how she was dead and was brought back mysteriously are sadly likely foreshadowing...


You know what else it might be sadly foreshadowing? Who else knows how to bring back the dead!?
 
2018-02-07 06:58:43 PM  

mooseyfate: Uncle Pooky: Wadded Beef: Anybody else feel that while it's cool Marvel puts series on Netflix that they're generally about five episodes too long?

Everyone feels that way.

Speak for yourself.


Yeah, I don't think they run too long because they use that time to build the characters. Does it slow the story down? Yes. But it usually pays dividends when we get back to the action.

One of the biggest things where the Marvel Netflix shows have outshone the movies is in the villains, and that's because they have time to let us live in the villains world for a little while.

Some of the shows do a better job with that time than others. The villains in Iron Fist were more compelling than the hero. That series felt long because it wasn't up to snuff. But then you also got Diamondback in Luke Cage . . . If they were determined to off Copperhead partway through, the focus should have shifted to Mariah. The reason Diamondback didn't work was he had all this emotion directed at Luke but the viewers were coming to that relationship fresh. Had they done something where Diamondback had been involved from the jump it would have played better.

There isn't an ounce of fat in Daredevil season 1. If we aren't following the gang we are learning what makes Wilson Fisk tick.
 
2018-02-07 07:02:33 PM  
I was entirely unaware that they were making a Season 2.  In fact, I had thought they were explicitly not making a Season 2.

So happy day for me!
 
2018-02-07 07:03:52 PM  

Rent Party: I was entirely unaware that they were making a Season 2.  In fact, I had thought they were explicitly not making a Season 2.

So happy day for me!


Luke Cage, Iron Fist (new showrunner), and the Punisher are all getting second seasons as well.

And Daredevil is getting a third.
 
2018-02-07 07:05:32 PM  

NeoCortex42: Wadded Beef: Anybody else feel that while it's cool Marvel puts series on Netflix that they're generally about five episodes too long?

Every. Single. Time.

On top of being too many episodes, some of the individual episodes are about 10-15 minutes too long. I like the Netflix series overall, but their pacing needs a lot of work.


You two forgot to biatch about hallway fights.
 
2018-02-07 07:08:19 PM  

Severaux: Rent Party: I was entirely unaware that they were making a Season 2.  In fact, I had thought they were explicitly not making a Season 2.

So happy day for me!

Luke Cage, Iron Fist (new showrunner), and the Punisher are all getting second seasons as well.

And Daredevil is getting a third.


That is mostly all excellent.   I'm not a huge Luke Cage fan but it was really well done.  Daredevil was farkin' awesome, as was Punisher.  No one can save Iron Fist, though, unless they recast the lead.   That was ridiculously bad.  He sucked in The Defenders, too.
 
2018-02-07 07:08:41 PM  

Severaux: Rent Party: I was entirely unaware that they were making a Season 2.  In fact, I had thought they were explicitly not making a Season 2.

So happy day for me!

Luke Cage, Iron Fist (new showrunner), and the Punisher are all getting second seasons as well.

And Daredevil is getting a third.


I hope a new show runner will fix Iron Fist. He was more tolerable in The Defenders, but man was he terrible in the first season.

Agent Coulson is a huge fan of Iron Fist IRL, I bet Clark Gregg would love to cameo if the suits could ever sort out their little spat between the tv, Netflix, and movie universes.

Though, since they actually name dropped Captain America instead of something vague like "the flag waver," that's a good sign they may be heading towards unity.
 
2018-02-07 07:19:58 PM  

Brainsick: THIS to all of the above, and:

I'm ridiculously happy that (it looks like) we're finally going Hellcat out of Patsy in this one.
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After watching the first season, I poked around Wikipedia a bit. Turns out that the Patsy Walker character has been around since 1944 and actually predates Marvel. Yeah, yeah csb.
 
2018-02-07 07:23:58 PM  
Does Luke Cage nail her in the pooper again?
 
2018-02-07 07:29:38 PM  

MolsonCanadian: darkmythology: As much as I think the Killgrave arc should stay as an emotional threat to Jessica, rather than a physical threat, I'm afraid the lines about how she was dead and was brought back mysteriously are sadly likely foreshadowing...

You know what else it might be sadly foreshadowing? Who else knows how to bring back the dead!?


Oooh. I totally would've gotten that if not for the cold medicine. :Hackcoughwheeze:
Good connection.
 
2018-02-07 07:33:56 PM  

hubiestubert: I've been looking forward to this for a while. Don't get me wrong, I really liked what they did with Daredevil, and Luke Cage for certain, and the more thoughtful and careful Punisher series was well done, and while I may be in the minority, I liked The Defenders run too, even WITH Danny Rand. I'll cop to Iron Fist being the weakest of these interconnected shows, but it wasn't terrible, in my opinion. But of all of them, Jessica Jones was the one that became my favorite of them all. Daredevil started it all, and it was really well done, and it's the one that set the bar, until Jessica Jones said, "Yeah, you can do all the action stuff you want, but I'm going to crush the feels" portion of the show. Superheroine with PTSD, an alcoholic, AND given life by Krysten Ritter? Plus ebbil David Tennant? What was NOT to like? Especially, with a Luke Cage series in the works, to give hope that their arc in the comics would come through?

I only hope that we can finally see Jessica Jones finally fly. Poorly at first, I hope. Because that fits with the ongoing themes within the Netflix streetlevel heroes. They've already thrown a bone to the Jewel identity, and the Knightress and Power Woman monikers. Ritter has killed it in her own series, and The Defenders. By far, the most engaging of these series, because she's such a damaged soul. She's got good reason to be the surly malcontent that the character is now, but likewise, there are the seeds for a brighter Jessica Jones from the later books as well. It's nice to see a mature take on genre. She's not even a reluctant hero, she's downright afraid to step into those shoes, and for good reason, and Ritter has made the role her own, and I'm looking forward to how they're going to move the character forward.


In a phrase: "The scarf looked better."
 
2018-02-07 07:42:12 PM  

Gaylord Q. Tinkledink: Does Luke Cage nail her in the pooper again?


I really hope so....
 
2018-02-07 07:42:30 PM  

Boudyro: mooseyfate: Uncle Pooky: Wadded Beef: Anybody else feel that while it's cool Marvel puts series on Netflix that they're generally about five episodes too long?

Everyone feels that way.

Speak for yourself.

Yeah, I don't think they run too long because they use that time to build the characters. Does it slow the story down? Yes. But it usually pays dividends when we get back to the action.

One of the biggest things where the Marvel Netflix shows have outshone the movies is in the villains, and that's because they have time to let us live in the villains world for a little while.

Some of the shows do a better job with that time than others. The villains in Iron Fist were more compelling than the hero. That series felt long because it wasn't up to snuff. But then you also got Diamondback in Luke Cage . . . If they were determined to off Copperhead partway through, the focus should have shifted to Mariah. The reason Diamondback didn't work was he had all this emotion directed at Luke but the viewers were coming to that relationship fresh. Had they done something where Diamondback had been involved from the jump it would have played better.

There isn't an ounce of fat in Daredevil season 1. If we aren't following the gang we are learning what makes Wilson Fisk tick.


That's the thing with the villains in these series. In Jessica Jones, you had a compelling and terrifying Purple Man. A villain who for most of his career has been sort of a joke, up until recently. Daredevil's villains have been compelling the whole way through. Even in The Defenders, you had villains who were more than just cut outs. I haven't felt like the episodes have dragged out in the least, because the world keeps getting filled in. The Punisher took its time, and it paid off with a fuller character for Frank in the end. Too many shows rush, and that corridor fight in Season One for Daredevil was amazing, because it built up to that moment naturally. Taking the beats is something that these directors have gotten so far. Be that with the action, or be that with the emotion. Without the moments to process, to build, Fisk would have been just a caricature. With the beats, with the build, you get a character that feels solid. Real.

One of the things that made the Grandmother scenes in Altered Carbon so effective, was the show took the thug character, and showed him all raging and then, reintroduced the actor as Ortega's abuela. And the beat to recognize the actor, and then the beat for it sink in what has happened, and then a beat to process, and then Ortega's abuela is born, and the viewer accepts this new reality. It took the time to establish the original character, then took the beats necessary to reestablish the character, and then again when the sleeve gets changed...one more time. Taking beats, taking the time to establish characters, to cement them, that is something that the Netflix shows aren't afraid to do, and that's what so many of them effective.

The shows are running just fine for time for me. I appreciate the effort that they're making.
 
2018-02-07 07:45:31 PM  

hubiestubert: I've been looking forward to this for a while. Don't get me wrong, I really liked what they did with Daredevil, and Luke Cage for certain, and the more thoughtful and careful Punisher series was well done, and while I may be in the minority, I liked The Defenders run too, even WITH Danny Rand. I'll cop to Iron Fist being the weakest of these interconnected shows, but it wasn't terrible, in my opinion. But of all of them, Jessica Jones was the one that became my favorite of them all. Daredevil started it all, and it was really well done, and it's the one that set the bar, until Jessica Jones said, "Yeah, you can do all the action stuff you want, but I'm going to crush the feels" portion of the show. Superheroine with PTSD, an alcoholic, AND given life by Krysten Ritter? Plus ebbil David Tennant? What was NOT to like? Especially, with a Luke Cage series in the works, to give hope that their arc in the comics would come through?

I only hope that we can finally see Jessica Jones finally fly. Poorly at first, I hope. Because that fits with the ongoing themes within the Netflix streetlevel heroes. They've already thrown a bone to the Jewel identity, and the Knightress and Power Woman monikers. Ritter has killed it in her own series, and The Defenders. By far, the most engaging of these series, because she's such a damaged soul. She's got good reason to be the surly malcontent that the character is now, but likewise, there are the seeds for a brighter Jessica Jones from the later books as well. It's nice to see a mature take on genre. She's not even a reluctant hero, she's downright afraid to step into those shoes, and for good reason, and Ritter has made the role her own, and I'm looking forward to how they're going to move the character forward.


This will probably be the last season on Netflix since Disney is starting it's own streaming service.
Can't see Disney going with adult themes...
 
2018-02-07 07:50:27 PM  
I don't know.

The first season of "Jessica Jones" was pretty great. Easily the best of the Marvel shows. Though yeah, it was too long by a few episodes.

The problem they have, is that Kilgrave was *too awesome*. They knocked it out of the park with that character, and nobody else can compare. And bringing him back would *ruin* the character (Jessican *and* Kilgrave), and the show.

Basically, I think they blew their wad on the first season. Everything from now on is going to feel weak.

/"The Flash" had the same problem, and holy crap did that show get stupid after the first season
 
2018-02-07 08:03:30 PM  
Can we not have Ninjas and The Hand?  No Ninjas. Just. No.
No Ninjas.

//Hate Ninjas.  Stupid villains.
 
2018-02-07 08:15:03 PM  

paulleah: Can we not have Ninjas and The Hand?  No Ninjas. Just. No.
No Ninjas.

//Hate Ninjas.  Stupid villains.


How about pirates?
 
2018-02-07 08:26:04 PM  

paulleah: Can we not have Ninjas and The Hand?  No Ninjas. Just. No.
No Ninjas.

//Hate Ninjas.  Stupid villains.


Ninjas are awesome, as long as they are few in number

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2018-02-07 08:31:40 PM  

paulleah: Can we not have Ninjas and The Hand?  No Ninjas. Just. No.
No Ninjas.

//Hate Ninjas.  Stupid villains.


Yeah, they've gotta been done tapping that well by now. Make Fisk the villain, have Electra show up, and no more hand ever. Danny can have his show be about finding Kun'Lun. The hand is gone. Please, no more. That entire story arc lead up to... dragon bones? I mean, Jesus.
 
2018-02-07 08:35:23 PM  

Fano: paulleah: Can we not have Ninjas and The Hand?  No Ninjas. Just. No.
No Ninjas.

//Hate Ninjas.  Stupid villains.

How about pirates?


Or zombies?  Can never have too many zombies.

/or ninja zombie pirates?  That's gold right there.
 
2018-02-07 08:59:56 PM  
The best Marvel work on TV by far. If I could pick just one to jump to the movies, it'd be JJ.
 
2018-02-07 09:32:12 PM  
hubiestubert:

Well thanks for the left-field Altered Carbon spoiler in a farking Jessica Jones thread.
 
2018-02-07 09:37:39 PM  

Famishus: hubiestubert:

Well thanks for the left-field Altered Carbon spoiler in a farking Jessica Jones thread.


Yes, Ortega's abuela is a YUGE plot point. Hinges the entire thing...
 
2018-02-07 09:40:14 PM  

hubiestubert: Famishus: hubiestubert:

Well thanks for the left-field Altered Carbon spoiler in a farking Jessica Jones thread.

Yes, Ortega's abuela is a YUGE plot point. Hinges the entire thing...


Not the point.
 
2018-02-07 09:41:07 PM  

Famishus: hubiestubert: Famishus: hubiestubert:

Well thanks for the left-field Altered Carbon spoiler in a farking Jessica Jones thread.

Yes, Ortega's abuela is a YUGE plot point. Hinges the entire thing...

Not the point.


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2018-02-07 09:43:10 PM  

ThatBillmanGuy: Famishus: hubiestubert: Famishus: hubiestubert:

Well thanks for the left-field Altered Carbon spoiler in a farking Jessica Jones thread.

Yes, Ortega's abuela is a YUGE plot point. Hinges the entire thing...

Not the point.

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Sure. I'd expect that in a thread about Altered Carbon. That's why I've been avoiding threads about Altered Carbon.
 
2018-02-07 09:51:44 PM  

MolsonCanadian: darkmythology: As much as I think the Killgrave arc should stay as an emotional threat to Jessica, rather than a physical threat, I'm afraid the lines about how she was dead and was brought back mysteriously are sadly likely foreshadowing...

You know what else it might be sadly foreshadowing? Who else knows how to bring back the dead!?


I thought the Hand were all out of resurrection juice?
 
2018-02-07 10:03:14 PM  

fusillade762: MolsonCanadian: darkmythology: As much as I think the Killgrave arc should stay as an emotional threat to Jessica, rather than a physical threat, I'm afraid the lines about how she was dead and was brought back mysteriously are sadly likely foreshadowing...

You know what else it might be sadly foreshadowing? Who else knows how to bring back the dead!?

I thought the Hand were all out of resurrection juice?


They are, but if the story is how JJ got her powers, maybe there was some connection.

Did anyone mention one good part, the reference to Captain America by name?
 
2018-02-07 10:35:59 PM  

MolsonCanadian: fusillade762: MolsonCanadian: darkmythology: As much as I think the Killgrave arc should stay as an emotional threat to Jessica, rather than a physical threat, I'm afraid the lines about how she was dead and was brought back mysteriously are sadly likely foreshadowing...

You know what else it might be sadly foreshadowing? Who else knows how to bring back the dead!?

I thought the Hand were all out of resurrection juice?

They are, but if the story is how JJ got her powers, maybe there was some connection.

Did anyone mention one good part, the reference to Captain America by name?


The trailer suggests that this season will answer how she got her powers. Which should be fun.
 
2018-02-07 10:39:43 PM  

hubiestubert: The trailer suggests that this season will answer how she got her powers. Which should be fun.


Because origin stories never weigh a comic book movie down.
 
2018-02-07 10:45:13 PM  
Hey, the Rape Show got another season!

/no thanks, too much rape.
//serious amount of rape in that show
 
2018-02-07 10:50:07 PM  
I've said it before , and I'll say it again:

I would bang her eyebrows.
 
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