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(Fox 43 Pennsylvania)   B-52 bomber shows those kids how it's done, sets record by dropping 24 precision-guided munitions on Taliban fighting positions during 96 hours of air operations   ( fox43.com) divider line
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2018-02-07 08:06:15 AM  
I thought we defeated those guys 17 years ago.
 
2018-02-07 08:26:05 AM  
The B-52's - Mesopotamia
Youtube 0FyLcHxbSRk
 
2018-02-07 08:39:48 AM  

Rapmaster2000: I thought we defeated those guys 17 years ago.


Yes, but we haven't run out of targets yet, apparently.
 
2018-02-07 08:41:17 AM  
Air Force to whine and stomp their feet and try to do everything to retire the platform in favor of some new trillion-dollar boondoggle in 3...2...1...
 
2018-02-07 08:42:07 AM  
Tin roof, rusted!
 
2018-02-07 08:44:29 AM  

KerplunkSploosh: Tin roof, annihilated.


Ftfy
 
2018-02-07 08:47:25 AM  
It looked like a bomb, but it was a lobster!
Booomb lobster!
 
2018-02-07 08:54:42 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: It looked like a bomb, but it was a lobster!
Booomb lobster!


Bomb, if you want to.
Bomb around the world.
 
2018-02-07 09:06:25 AM  
That's a lot of freedom being dropped.
 
2018-02-07 09:07:03 AM  
So, can some American explain to me why the 1950s B-52s are still essential front-line aircraft but the 1980s A-10s are heading for the scrapheap? I mean, we fly ancient SeaKings, but nobody thinks that's anything but an embarrassing failure to buy new damned helicopters.
 
2018-02-07 09:11:11 AM  

Valiente: So, can some American explain to me why the 1950s B-52s are still essential front-line aircraft but the 1980s A-10s are heading for the scrapheap? I mean, we fly ancient SeaKings, but nobody thinks that's anything but an embarrassing failure to buy new damned helicopters.


The A-10 is basically an Army and Marine airplane flown by the Air Force. If tapped for money, the Air Force figures it's better to screw the Army and Marines than get less F-35s.
 
2018-02-07 09:12:21 AM  
Just for reference, a B-52 costs $72,000 per hour of flight. Your tax dollars at work!
 
2018-02-07 09:17:03 AM  
There's a war in Afghanistan?
 
2018-02-07 09:18:23 AM  
 
2018-02-07 09:21:35 AM  

Kit Fister: Air Force to whine and stomp their feet and try to do everything to retire the platform in favor of some new trillion-dollar boondoggle in 3...2...1...


No kidding. I mean, really, when it comes to dropping a shiatload of 2,000 lb bombs from high altitude, what else do you need? As long as they keep updating the avionics and whatnot every few years, the airframe should be good just about forever.
 
2018-02-07 09:49:25 AM  
We have been winning this war for over 16 years! A record!
 
2018-02-07 09:49:35 AM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: Valiente: So, can some American explain to me why the 1950s B-52s are still essential front-line aircraft but the 1980s A-10s are heading for the scrapheap? I mean, we fly ancient SeaKings, but nobody thinks that's anything but an embarrassing failure to buy new damned helicopters.

The A-10 is basically an Army and Marine airplane flown by the Air Force. If tapped for money, the Air Force figures it's better to screw the Army and Marines than get less F-35s.


Thanks, but it's not the answer I was hoping for. As far as I can tell, the A-10 is best in terms of keeping both its pilots and grunts on the ground alive. It also has the sterling quality that it makes your foes shiat themselves in an immediate way. Bombing from 40,000 feet just doesn't have the same effect on morale.
 
2018-02-07 09:52:10 AM  
Meanwhile, the other side can do equal damage with a couple of $600 car bombs.
 
2018-02-07 09:53:29 AM  

edmo: Rapmaster2000: I thought we defeated those guys 17 years ago.

Yes, but we haven't run out of targets yet, apparently.


We haven't run out of bombs yet. We can always find targets.
 
2018-02-07 09:54:10 AM  

Valiente: So, can some American explain to me why the 1950s B-52s are still essential front-line aircraft but the 1980s A-10s are heading for the scrapheap? I mean, we fly ancient SeaKings, but nobody thinks that's anything but an embarrassing failure to buy new damned helicopters.


Our betters spent $1.5 trillion on the F-35 (and counting).  How much more money can the AF ask for their operations and other replacement equipment?  Can they get $10 trillion next year?  They have to retire older systems.  It's a much bigger problem than is being acknowledged publically, since the army, navy, and marines can't each have their own multi-trillion dollar budgets every year or so.  Also, no consequences for the burocrats, elected officials, or Lockheed management over the disaster that is the F-35.
 
2018-02-07 09:59:18 AM  

Valiente: Pointy Tail of Satan: Valiente: So, can some American explain to me why the 1950s B-52s are still essential front-line aircraft but the 1980s A-10s are heading for the scrapheap? I mean, we fly ancient SeaKings, but nobody thinks that's anything but an embarrassing failure to buy new damned helicopters.

The A-10 is basically an Army and Marine airplane flown by the Air Force. If tapped for money, the Air Force figures it's better to screw the Army and Marines than get less F-35s.

Thanks, but it's not the answer I was hoping for. As far as I can tell, the A-10 is best in terms of keeping both its pilots and grunts on the ground alive. It also has the sterling quality that it makes your foes shiat themselves in an immediate way. Bombing from 40,000 feet just doesn't have the same effect on morale.


As far as I can tell the Airforce only likes things that fly fast or can drop an insane amount of bombs, so the A-10 just doesn't meet their twisted criteria for "sexy" and thus they don't want it. They won't let the Army have it though because it's an airplane and the Airforce are a bunch of territorial little shiats feels that places them exclusively in their domain.
 
2018-02-07 10:00:23 AM  

Valiente: So, can some American explain to me why the 1950s B-52s are still essential front-line aircraft but the 1980s A-10s are heading for the scrapheap? I mean, we fly ancient SeaKings, but nobody thinks that's anything but an embarrassing failure to buy new damned helicopters.


Other than Marine-1,since 2006 the US doesn't have any squadrons of SH-3 Seakings left.
 
2018-02-07 10:01:36 AM  

Valiente: So, can some American explain to me why the 1950s B-52s are still essential front-line aircraft but the 1980s A-10s are heading for the scrapheap? I mean, we fly ancient SeaKings, but nobody thinks that's anything but an embarrassing failure to buy new damned helicopters.


The Air Force likes bombers. Bombers are cool.

And the B-52 carries a lot of ordinance, can fly really far, and does more than just drop bombs on the ground. The air frame is pretty solid  with lots of room for upgrades and it can carry a nuclear payload among other things.

The A-10...well, no one's getting a lot of sweet defense contract money for making them at this point and the Air Force brass doesn't seem to like the idea of a dedicated close air support plane. Maybe they don't see close air support as their primary mission despite the fact that it's extremely important and the A-10 is getting the job done(for now). Maybe they have other plans for space planes and laz0rs and see planes like the A-10 as being obsolete. I think maybe they need to stfu and go back to shooting mans on the ground until their space planes with laz0rs are ready to deploy.
 
2018-02-07 10:01:45 AM  
Kit Fister: some new trillion-dollar boondoggle in

I'm told by a retired Bone driver that it's a Yugo compared to the B-2. "A total piece of shiat."
 
2018-02-07 10:03:44 AM  

Valiente: Pointy Tail of Satan: Valiente: So, can some American explain to me why the 1950s B-52s are still essential front-line aircraft but the 1980s A-10s are heading for the scrapheap? I mean, we fly ancient SeaKings, but nobody thinks that's anything but an embarrassing failure to buy new damned helicopters.

The A-10 is basically an Army and Marine airplane flown by the Air Force. If tapped for money, the Air Force figures it's better to screw the Army and Marines than get less F-35s.

Thanks, but it's not the answer I was hoping for. As far as I can tell, the A-10 is best in terms of keeping both its pilots and grunts on the ground alive. It also has the sterling quality that it makes your foes shiat themselves in an immediate way. Bombing from 40,000 feet just doesn't have the same effect on morale.


It is hands down the best CAS bird in our arsenal. But it's not as sexy and doesn't make the general's peepees hard in the AF, because with limited exceptions, the AF doesn't give AF about anything that doesn't make them look cool.
 
2018-02-07 10:04:08 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Kit Fister: some new trillion-dollar boondoggle in

I'm told by a retired Bone driver that it's a Yugo compared to the B-2. "A total piece of shiat."


So, to be approved by AF command in record time, then.
 
2018-02-07 10:12:16 AM  

Kit Fister: So, to be approved by AF command in record time, then.


Right?

Being close to Dyess, I hear a lot about the platforms. Biggest problem with the Bone is it's complexity AND lack of spare parts. It take and incredible amount of man hours to get one up and running but it performs very well in theater. The Buff is, well, one of the if not the most reliable platform ever put into service. I don't hear a lot about the B-2 other than it does what it's supposed to do and does it well.  There is really no need for another heavy platform IMO but we'll get one AND LIKE IT!
 
2018-02-07 10:25:25 AM  
"B-52 bomber shows those kids how it's done, sets record by dropping 24 precision-guided munitions"

I feel a pop-group poo joke coming on!
 
2018-02-07 10:36:46 AM  

Valiente: So, can some American explain to me why the 1950s B-52s are still essential front-line aircraft but the 1980s A-10s are heading for the scrapheap? I mean, we fly ancient SeaKings, but nobody thinks that's anything but an embarrassing failure to buy new damned helicopters.


This could have been a drone mission, but drone pilots will never get promoted to Air Force General.

Only combat pilots get a star on their shoulder.
 
2018-02-07 10:42:54 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Being close to Dyess


I'm still so sorry for you.

My dad flew C-130s gunships in Vietnam, then the regular flavor while stationed at Dyess. I loved seeing the B-52s flying overhead and remember when the B-1s showed up.

As much as I hated that town, I do have good memories of cool air shows and the perks of seeing aircraft up close thanks to having a Lt. Col for a dad.
 
2018-02-07 10:42:57 AM  
Tell me one war we've won with the B52 in operation.
 
2018-02-07 10:43:20 AM  

Rapmaster2000: I thought we defeated those guys 17 years ago.


It isn't your dad's kind of war when you're battling an ideology rather than a nation-state.
 
2018-02-07 10:53:32 AM  
How many weddings is that ?
 
2018-02-07 10:56:06 AM  

The Googles Do Nothing: Tell me one war we've won with the B52 in operation.


The war against Planet Claire.
 
2018-02-07 10:58:22 AM  

chaoswolf: I'm still so sorry for you.


Ah, it's not so bad. Good people and we're really not all that far from DFW. The city really does a lot to support Dyess and I hear very few complaints from service members stationed there. Biggest is that Abilene is kind of boring. I've met a lot of really cool people too. Still pretty tight with a retired Bone pilot who got us 4 hours of SIM time. Bonus for being on base the day that the commander of the 13th transferred the colors to Whiteman. We were in the tower when he flew out.

chaoswolf: My dad flew C-130s gunships in Vietnam, then the regular flavor while stationed at Dyess.


They got the J model not too long ago. A bigger air frame and surprisingly quiet. We are about a mile north of a low level flight path and where we used to hear them coming now we don't know they're coming until the first ship flies by. The ground crews love them too. They actually have part to work on them with!
 
2018-02-07 11:03:16 AM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: Valiente: So, can some American explain to me why the 1950s B-52s are still essential front-line aircraft but the 1980s A-10s are heading for the scrapheap? I mean, we fly ancient SeaKings, but nobody thinks that's anything but an embarrassing failure to buy new damned helicopters.

The A-10 is basically an Army and Marine airplane flown by the Air Force. If tapped for money, the Air Force figures it's better to screw the Army and Marines than get less F-35s.


fewer
 
2018-02-07 11:09:59 AM  

Valiente: So, can some American explain to me why the 1950s B-52s are still essential front-line aircraft but the 1980s A-10s are heading for the scrapheap? I mean, we fly ancient SeaKings, but nobody thinks that's anything but an embarrassing failure to buy new damned helicopters.


Don't get me started on that project, my dad was on it from inception past awarding.. oh the stories I could tell
 
2018-02-07 11:22:53 AM  

The Googles Do Nothing: Tell me one war we've won with the B52 in operation.


Granada! Tremendous victory!

/ First Gulf War, too
 
2018-02-07 11:35:13 AM  

Valiente: Pointy Tail of Satan: Valiente: So, can some American explain to me why the 1950s B-52s are still essential front-line aircraft but the 1980s A-10s are heading for the scrapheap? I mean, we fly ancient SeaKings, but nobody thinks that's anything but an embarrassing failure to buy new damned helicopters.

The A-10 is basically an Army and Marine airplane flown by the Air Force. If tapped for money, the Air Force figures it's better to screw the Army and Marines than get less F-35s.

Thanks, but it's not the answer I was hoping for. As far as I can tell, the A-10 is best in terms of keeping both its pilots and grunts on the ground alive. It also has the sterling quality that it makes your foes shiat themselves in an immediate way. Bombing from 40,000 feet just doesn't have the same effect on morale.


No, but goatherders can't get lucky and shoot me down with a golden bb at 40k feet and 500 knots.
 Chair force pilots hate going low and slow, period.
  B 52 is faster than an A 10, and just as survivable vs a real opponent with good SAMS, and invulnerable to anything man portable. No surprise they would rather fly it.
 
2018-02-07 11:50:34 AM  

jaytkay: The Googles Do Nothing: Tell me one war we've won with the B52 in operation.

Granada! Tremendous victory!

/ First Gulf War, too


Doesn't look like Congress has declared war since WW2, so the technical answer is that America has won no war with the B-52 in operation.
 
2018-02-07 12:30:35 PM  

chaoswolf: Doesn't look like Congress has declared war since WW2, so the technical answer is that America has won no war with the B-52 in operation.


Nobody cares and it doesn't matter at all.
 
2018-02-07 12:44:37 PM  

Muzzleloader: Valiente: Pointy Tail of Satan: Valiente: So, can some American explain to me why the 1950s B-52s are still essential front-line aircraft but the 1980s A-10s are heading for the scrapheap? I mean, we fly ancient SeaKings, but nobody thinks that's anything but an embarrassing failure to buy new damned helicopters.

The A-10 is basically an Army and Marine airplane flown by the Air Force. If tapped for money, the Air Force figures it's better to screw the Army and Marines than get less F-35s.

Thanks, but it's not the answer I was hoping for. As far as I can tell, the A-10 is best in terms of keeping both its pilots and grunts on the ground alive. It also has the sterling quality that it makes your foes shiat themselves in an immediate way. Bombing from 40,000 feet just doesn't have the same effect on morale.

No, but goatherders can't get lucky and shoot me down with a golden bb at 40k feet and 500 knots.
 Chair force pilots hate going low and slow, period.
  B 52 is faster than an A 10, and just as survivable vs a real opponent with good SAMS, and invulnerable to anything man portable. No surprise they would rather fly it.


You are apparently unfamiliar with the metric assload of damage the A-10 can take without blinking.

https://www.aircraftresourcecenter.co​m​/Stories1/001-100/0016_A-10-battle-dam​age/story0016.htm
 
2018-02-07 12:46:03 PM  

edmo: Rapmaster2000: I thought we defeated those guys 17 years ago.

Yes, but we haven't run out of targets yet, apparently.


And we're making the targets bigger.
 
2018-02-07 12:50:49 PM  
...strikes and raids in the region have destroyed more than $30 million of Taliban revenue since the campaign began in November, 2017.

And per Shaggy_C it also destroyed $7 million of our revenue for that single, 96 hour flight.
 
2018-02-07 12:54:54 PM  
Want to talk airplanes and Aghanistan? Well then, talk about the chartered 747 freighters cruising in with palletized cash for distribution to "tribal elders". Where have we seen this before?

Only this country could see what happened to the Russians and think, 'Wait, we can do that.'

Nothing has been accomplished, absolutely nothing. We have to suck the Paki's just to move stuff, that alone should be a reason to declare victory and leave.

To my mind we persist so the armed forces can have a hot war to train in, but we don't declare real war because, well, just because.

The jihadi's are still there and still selling their poppy seed rolls so that European & Russian people have a steady supply.

Counting ordinance drops over Afghanistan reminds me of the nightly body counts on the evening news during Vietnam. Entirely meaningless. Those that don't get hit just retire to their caves, exactly as they did during the reign of Queen Victoria. Hell some still use the same Enfeild rifles the Britsh left.

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2018-02-07 01:03:06 PM  
Let's give them all medals.
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2018-02-07 01:35:11 PM  

Valiente: Bombing from 40,000 feet just doesn't have the same effect on morale.


Well... ummm..


B-52 carpet bombing
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2018-02-07 01:41:45 PM  
That's a  lot of dollars to spend on worthless individuals.
 
2018-02-07 01:49:49 PM  

Merltech: That's a lot of freedom being dropped.


Courtesy of the Taxpayer.  Socialism does work!!
 
2018-02-07 02:56:27 PM  

jjorsett: Rapmaster2000: I thought we defeated those guys 17 years ago.

It isn't your dad's kind of war when you're battling an ideology rather than a nation-state.


No, that definitely sounds like Vietnam.
 
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