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(Salt Lake Tribune)   Mormons want to throw underage kids in jail for recording sexually abusive interviews that Mormon Bishops conduct behind closed doors, alone, with minors, asking them to describe their sexual and masturbation habits   ( sltrib.com) divider line
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2018-02-06 10:06:11 PM  
Why would God need a spaceship Why would people representing an omniscient deity be afraid of having their One-on-One Purity Interview conversations recorded?
 
2018-02-06 10:12:18 PM  
In other words, the religion that actively covers up the rape of children is now going to throw the children in jail as well.
 
2018-02-06 10:14:58 PM  
The Mormons are deeply concerned about what young people get up to with their genitals.  It's disturbing.
 
2018-02-06 10:46:44 PM  
This thread needs some Mormon Ignition

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2018-02-06 11:03:01 PM  
Religion is a cancer and needs to be cut away
 
2018-02-06 11:13:25 PM  
And the bill will pass because the church is the state.
 
2018-02-06 11:32:07 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: And the bill will pass because the church is the state.


And would never pass a SCOTUS challenge.

But that's not the point. It'll exist as intimidation for sexual abuse victims. Which is the point. To get them to STFU.
 
2018-02-07 01:26:47 AM  
but if they don't have anything to hide, then why are they acting so guilty?
 
2018-02-07 01:27:15 AM  

Donald Trump's Vagina: Religion is a cancer and needs to be cut away


you are part of the problem.
 
2018-02-07 02:22:11 AM  
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2018-02-07 02:23:03 AM  
They really should stop flogging those bishops.
 
2018-02-07 02:24:21 AM  
christianity in general has some weird ideas about sex.  Mormons, tho...they take the usual christian weirdness about sex and dial it up a notch or three.
 
2018-02-07 02:26:35 AM  
And Jesus said, "I asked of her bush and whether it burned and she said, No, For it is bare and shorn.  And I asked of her legs and whether they were thick and coarse, and she said, No, For I am not of Gauls. Then she asked me why for my pits were not as that of her legs and bush and I said, Get off that fine ass and make me a sandwich, toots."
 
2018-02-07 02:33:21 AM  
If they'd just call it confession then no new laws would be needed...
 
2018-02-07 02:34:09 AM  
As fun as it sounds, and as much as I'm up for it, we can't be too harsh on these pastors. We can't ALL just come in here and start bashing the bishop like this!!
 
2018-02-07 02:35:23 AM  

fusillade762: They really should stop flogging those bishops.


*furiously shakes fist*
 
2018-02-07 02:36:50 AM  

Weaver95: christianity in general has some weird ideas about sex.  Mormons, tho...they take the usual christian weirdness about sex and dial it up a notch or three.


Yeah, but they produce some amazing 18-22 year old girls.  They're like repressed little heat-seaking marriage missiles.  They'll do anything to hit their target.  Anything.

/And then never again after the ring....
 
2018-02-07 02:40:51 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: The Mormons are deeply concerned about what young people get up to with their genitals.  It's disturbing.


My bishop wanted to know.

/recovered Mormon
 
2018-02-07 02:55:14 AM  
You know what drove the kids to do this, don't you?

They saw alcoholic beverages being poured, and that's why we need the Zion Curtain.
 
2018-02-07 02:57:55 AM  

LowbrowDeluxe: Weaver95: christianity in general has some weird ideas about sex.  Mormons, tho...they take the usual christian weirdness about sex and dial it up a notch or three.

Yeah, but they produce some amazing 18-22 year old girls.  They're like repressed little heat-seaking marriage missiles.  They'll do anything to hit their target.  Anything.

/And then never again after the ring....


i'm pretty sure i'm WELL past the age where any 18-22 year old woman would be interested in sleeping with me.
 
2018-02-07 03:08:20 AM  
It started with conversations about masturbation and sex...

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2018-02-07 03:12:25 AM  

Weaver95: LowbrowDeluxe: Weaver95: christianity in general has some weird ideas about sex.  Mormons, tho...they take the usual christian weirdness about sex and dial it up a notch or three.

Yeah, but they produce some amazing 18-22 year old girls.  They're like repressed little heat-seaking marriage missiles.  They'll do anything to hit their target.  Anything.

/And then never again after the ring....

i'm pretty sure i'm WELL past the age where any 18-22 year old woman would be interested in sleeping with me.


Has that ever stopped you before?
 
2018-02-07 03:12:45 AM  

Weaver95: LowbrowDeluxe: Weaver95: christianity in general has some weird ideas about sex.  Mormons, tho...they take the usual christian weirdness about sex and dial it up a notch or three.

Yeah, but they produce some amazing 18-22 year old girls.  They're like repressed little heat-seaking marriage missiles.  They'll do anything to hit their target.  Anything.

/And then never again after the ring....

i'm pretty sure i'm WELL past the age where any 18-22 year old woman would be interested in sleeping with me.


Yeah, me too, but I was young once, dammit, and I have fond memories of it.
 
2018-02-07 03:17:10 AM  

Just another Heartland Weirdass: Weaver95: LowbrowDeluxe: Weaver95: christianity in general has some weird ideas about sex.  Mormons, tho...they take the usual christian weirdness about sex and dial it up a notch or three.

Yeah, but they produce some amazing 18-22 year old girls.  They're like repressed little heat-seaking marriage missiles.  They'll do anything to hit their target.  Anything.

/And then never again after the ring....

i'm pretty sure i'm WELL past the age where any 18-22 year old woman would be interested in sleeping with me.

Has that ever stopped you before?


If I had any woman under the age of 35 hitting on me, my baseline assumption would be either set up, scam or prostitution solicitation.

hot women in their 20's are forever beyond MY reach, and I think i'm ok with that.  but....all of that aside, that don't mean I won't occasionally appreciate the view from afar.
 
2018-02-07 03:24:09 AM  
What the hell is it with these abramatic religions (and offshoots) and their fascination with minors and sex?

/disclaimer: I have no idea of any of this is prevalent in other religions as i have had little to no real exposure to them
 
2018-02-07 03:24:52 AM  

pxlboy: Marcus Aurelius: The Mormons are deeply concerned about what young people get up to with their genitals.  It's disturbing.

My bishop wanted to know.

/recovered Mormon


Also recovered Mormon, my bishop clearly didn't want to know and was extremely uncomfortable, but that didn't stop my mom.
 
2018-02-07 03:33:16 AM  
Openly place your device in recording mode and set it on the desk/table, what have you. If the other party continues to speak, they implicitly consent to being recorded.
 
2018-02-07 03:34:04 AM  
See, if they had been children of atheists, only their uncle's would have been able to molest them.
 
2018-02-07 03:46:38 AM  

Kirablue42: In other words, the religion that actively covers up the rape of children is now going to throw the children in jail as well.


Makes 'em easier to get to.
 
2018-02-07 03:47:06 AM  
fark off, Mormons. You're sub Scientology in thought.
 
2018-02-07 03:48:10 AM  

Kirablue42: In other words, the religion that actively covers up the rape of children is now going to throw the children in jail as well.


just like jesus wanted.
 
2018-02-07 04:05:44 AM  

TechCom: Openly place your device in recording mode and set it on the desk/table, what have you. If the other party continues to speak, they implicitly consent to being recorded.


"This conversation will be recorded. If you speak, you have given consent to the recording"

Also, "this conversation will be recorded for training and safety purposes. If you do not wish to have this conversation recorded then what are you afraid of? Is there anything about this conversation that *you* would be ashamed of, should it become public? I masturbate, I'm not ashamed of it, in fact, it has health benefits. God didn't *have* to make sex fun, it could have been purely functional - ejaculation without the sensation, skin contact without the comfort that gives us, but God chose to make it fun, to appeal to us, so what's the farkin' problem?"
 
2018-02-07 04:12:15 AM  

Kirablue42: In other words, the religion that actively covers up the rape of children is now going to throw the children in jail as well.


Senior Vatican officials seen furiously slapping themselves upside the head while exclaiming; "Why didn't we think of that?!"
 
2018-02-07 04:18:07 AM  

Donald Trump's Vagina: Religion is a cancer and needs to be cut away


I concur. once I felt bad for countries that did not have freedom of religion. when I got older I realized their governments were sparing the citizens great distress and doubt.
 
2018-02-07 04:19:47 AM  

koder: And Jesus said, "I asked of her bush and whether it burned and she said, No, For it is bare and shorn.  And I asked of her legs and whether they were thick and coarse, and she said, No, For I am not of Gauls. Then she asked me why for my pits were not as that of her legs and bush and I said, Get off that fine ass and make me a sandwich, toots."


see, people? see? you can be a Farker and know your bible. nothing wrong with that.
 
2018-02-07 04:23:42 AM  

aagrajag: Kirablue42: In other words, the religion that actively covers up the rape of children is now going to throw the children in jail as well.

Senior Vatican officials seen furiously slapping themselves upside the head while exclaiming; "Why didn't we think of that?!"


I was thinking that this really puts paid to the idea that Mormonism isn't a real religion.
 
2018-02-07 04:26:47 AM  
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2018-02-07 04:27:37 AM  

Weaver95: Just another Heartland Weirdass: Weaver95: LowbrowDeluxe: Weaver95: christianity in general has some weird ideas about sex.  Mormons, tho...they take the usual christian weirdness about sex and dial it up a notch or three.

Yeah, but they produce some amazing 18-22 year old girls.  They're like repressed little heat-seaking marriage missiles.  They'll do anything to hit their target.  Anything.

/And then never again after the ring....

i'm pretty sure i'm WELL past the age where any 18-22 year old woman would be interested in sleeping with me.

Has that ever stopped you before?

If I had any woman under the age of 35 hitting on me, my baseline assumption would be either set up, scam or prostitution solicitation.

hot women in their 20's are forever beyond MY reach, and I think i'm ok with that.  but....all of that aside, that don't mean I won't occasionally appreciate the view from afar.


I was making a joke.

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2018-02-07 04:39:47 AM  

Dave2042: aagrajag: Kirablue42: In other words, the religion that actively covers up the rape of children is now going to throw the children in jail as well.

Senior Vatican officials seen furiously slapping themselves upside the head while exclaiming; "Why didn't we think of that?!"

I was thinking that this really puts paid to the idea that Mormonism isn't a real religion.


If even a single human being truly believes in its dogma, it is by definition a religion.
 
2018-02-07 04:49:24 AM  
Weaver95:  you are part of the problem.

Which problem? Propagation of delusional beliefs via abuse and indoctrination?

Institutionalized abuse of kids?

Embedded support and safe-spaces for misogynistic bigots to feel great about their idiocy?

Takes a true hero to argue in support of the kiddy-diddlers.
 
2018-02-07 04:54:12 AM  

nulluspixiusdemonica: Weaver95:  you are part of the problem.

Which problem? Propagation of delusional beliefs via abuse and indoctrination?

Institutionalized abuse of kids?

Embedded support and safe-spaces for misogynistic bigots to feel great about their idiocy?

Takes a true hero to argue in support of the kiddy-diddlers.


anyone who thinks all religions are the same is just as hateful, bigoted and stupid as the most hard core right wing fundie who ever thumped a bible.

I find the baby atheists just as ill informed and arrogant as I do the evangelical republicans currently infesting the white house.  wanna disagree with religion?  fine.  but it is JUST as wrong to try and force atheism on people as it is to force christianity, or islam or scientology on 'em.  agree to disagree and go your own way.  then insist that EVERYONE stop trying to convert everyone else, and make sure nobody gets to make their church the law of the land.  that's about the best any of us can do when it comes to religion.
 
2018-02-07 04:58:32 AM  

InsaneJelloTroll: but that didn't stop my mom.


Go on...
 
2018-02-07 05:00:38 AM  
Scientology moving their recruitment center to Utah in 3...2...
 
2018-02-07 05:01:28 AM  
Only jail, why not death by hard labor?
 
2018-02-07 05:02:09 AM  
After what happened to those gymnast girls... If this passes, I'm going to crack some farking heads.

I remember my bishop asking me about my habits when I was a fresh convert at 16 and could tell he didn't want to ask such things. He was a genuine example of the good I see in that faith. I left within a year for a lot of reasons and he was not one of those reasons.

If it had been the next bishop in line who posed such questions, I'd likely have choked him to death. Not only did he give off bad vibes in general, he didn't approve of the clothing I wore one particular Sunday when, despite incredibly tight timing, my non-LDS immediate family was nice enough to pick me up right after church (Sacrament Meeting, the first part) to go to my brothers' particularly important BMX race (dirt track; no way was I getting my Sunday Best dirty since I only had one set and changing on the way was simply not an option). That asshole basically blocks my exit and makes a big deal about my clothes. I ended up telling him in the nicest terms possible that if he didn't get out of my way so I could "focus on family, whether they share my belief system or not", he was going to regret it.

I still think there's a lot of good in that faith system and I see a lot of good coming out of it, just not from the leadership. I think the proverbial baby got thrown out with the bathwater a long time ago and people are still blindly scrubbing away out of habit.

I've been studying a lot lately about how things got this way. I still have far more questions than answers, but I'm starting to see certain patterns that are making me cringe. TFA simply adds to it.
 
2018-02-07 05:04:13 AM  
Weaver95:  that's about the best any of us can do when it comes to religion.

So the 'solution' is to pretend the problem doesn't exist?

Delusional beliefs in invisible sky faeries are an undeniable indicator of psychosis. We should really be offering treatment instead of enabling.

We absolutely should not be shielding or excusing the psychotics from the impact of their disease on the world around them.

Your approach to dealing with alcoholism must be *amazing*.
 
2018-02-07 05:06:09 AM  

nulluspixiusdemonica: Delusional beliefs in invisible sky faeries are an undeniable indicator of psychosis. We should really be offering treatment instead of enabling.


and that is why you fail.
 
2018-02-07 05:10:33 AM  

Weaver95: and that is why you fail.


Oh, noes! Did not realize there was a risk of FAILURE!

Whatever will I d... oh, wait.

Enablers are the passive aggressive part of the problem
 
2018-02-07 05:12:07 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: The Mormons are deeply concerned about what young people get up to with their genitals.  It's disturbing.


The awful thing is the leadership has no idea the long-term damage that does. I saw far too many of my peers get married just because they were horny. Hell, I was the product of such a marriage. And when it doesn't work out, the women often have several children at an age where any amount of children should be a few years off.

I really don't see the point in shaming anyone for implementing damage control, whether it's self-love or birth control. The abstinence-only sex education classes I was subjected to had no place in a public school system. I learned more useful information from PBS, including Brigham Young University's own PBS station (KBYU), than that patronizing shiat taught me.
 
2018-02-07 05:14:19 AM  

nulluspixiusdemonica: Weaver95: and that is why you fail.

Oh, noes! Did not realize there was a risk of FAILURE!

Whatever will I d... oh, wait.

Enablers are the passive aggressive part of the problem


based on my experience, people with your views are generally a short term problem.  you'll either figure it out, or join a cult and become a follower yourself.

meh.  enjoy your ride.
 
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