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(Guardian)   Owner of Picasso's Girl with a Red Beret and Pompom renames the painting Annabel after the club he owns. Some art historians have a problem with this   ( theguardian.com) divider line
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2018-02-06 12:35:21 AM  
TFA: "What the owner of Annabel's has done, with laughable arrogance, is to try to short-circuit the complex, elusive processes by which works of art pick up their nicknames over the centuries."

I think the author is giving him way too much credit.
 
2018-02-06 01:57:22 AM  

slackananda: TFA: "What the owner of Annabel's has done, with laughable arrogance, is to try to short-circuit the complex, elusive processes by which works of art pick up their nicknames over the centuries."

I think the author is giving him way too much credit.


He actually has quite a bit of power - if anyone wants the  right to reproduce that work in a book, article or catalogue, he can set the terms for how it is described. Having said that, there are of course a shiatload of Picasso paintings, so the butthurt academics will just avoid mentioning that embarrassing example.

I suspect Picasso would have just laughed if he was alive and heard of it. He was as commercial as he needed to be (I like the story about how he paid for everything, no matter how small, with a signed cheque, knowing full well that the recipient would never cash it )
 
2018-02-06 02:36:51 AM  
Why shouldn't he call it whatever the hell he wants? If you wanna keep referring to it as "Girl with a Red Beret and Pompom," go ahead. (Doesn't exactly roll of the tongue, though.)
 
2018-02-06 03:06:20 AM  
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If the artist didn't name it, you can call it whatever you want.

I don't see why John down the road two hundred years ago has more naming rights than Phil the next street over today.
 
2018-02-06 03:17:21 AM  

dyhchong: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If the artist didn't name it, you can call it whatever you want.

I don't see why John down the road two hundred years ago has more naming rights than Phil the next street over today.


Nowadays dealers generally get the naming rights, for commercial and cataloguing convenience. It's completely random.
 
2018-02-06 03:18:25 AM  
My favorite Picasso story:
The wife of a rich businessman commissioned her portrait painted by Picasso, which he did with his normal panache and pizazz.

When the husband wrote out the check and saw the painting, he had to demonstrate his superiority to Modern Art buy telling the painter, "Of course, you know that not what she really looks like."
"Well, what does she really look like?"
"She looks like this," the businessman said, pulling a photo out of his wallet.
Picasso studied the photo a while. "Wow. She sure is small!"

Subsequently, Pablo Picasso was never called an asshole.
 
2018-02-06 03:24:14 AM  
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado
When he would drive down their street in his El Dorado
He could walk down your street
And girls could not resist his stare
Pablo Picasso never got called an asshole
Not like you
Modern Lovers - Pablo Picasso
Youtube Kc2iLAubras
 
2018-02-06 04:10:32 AM  

mjjt: He actually has quite a bit of power - if anyone wants the right to reproduce that work in a book, article or catalogue, he can set the terms for how it is described.


How so?  He owns the object, not the distribution / reproduction rights, no?  Since it wasn't a work for hire (i.e., he didn't hire Picasso) either the copyright has expired or it's still held by some other agency. In either case, he wouldn't own the copyright, so people can do whatever they want.  If he wants to call it "rock", so be it -- everyone else can just ignore him.

*Google-y*

When Titanic came out in 1993, the rights to Picasso's Les Demoiselles d'Avignon (1907) were still held by the Picasso estate, so I am guessing they still own the rights to Girl With A Red Beret And Pompom.

Not only that, but the woman in the painting was named Marie-Thérèse (Christie's lists her name as an alternate name for the painting). Calling it Annabel is kinda misleading, not to mention rude.
 
2018-02-06 06:04:18 AM  
If I painted that, my family would have me in for a brain scan. lol
 
2018-02-06 06:51:52 AM  
Rich people problems.
 
2018-02-06 08:15:58 AM  
Simple, just get all the art historians together, pass the hat around and buy the painting.
 
2018-02-06 08:26:28 AM  
How to tell if you have too much money
 
2018-02-06 11:06:12 AM  
You can rename paintings?

Awesome. I'm gonna go through every museum now and make a list of suggestions.
 
2018-02-06 11:08:45 AM  
Tiddies
Tiddes 2: The Revenge
Tiddes 3: Son of Tiddies
Fat Man in the Fur Coat
King Sourpuss
Flat-Eyed Susan
The Three Stooges in Milan
Tiddies 4: It's Not Porn If It's on a Wall
Rex Sideways: Dog Detective
 
2018-02-06 11:12:29 AM  

AmbassadorBooze: Simple, just get all the art historians together, pass the hat around and buy the painting.


I think you'll need more than 5 bucks and a pocket full of lint for a Picasso.
 
2018-02-06 11:19:18 AM  
 
2018-02-06 11:24:33 AM  
The Fast show - Black!
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2018-02-06 11:39:27 AM  
Owning the physical painting is not the same thing as owning the copyright and other rights. I'm not aware of countries which have "naming rights" defined by law -- owners of buildings have been dealing with that through contract law.

If nothing else, though, this guy has added an asterisk to the name of the painting.
 
2018-02-06 01:15:26 PM  
Gillian Welch - Annabelle
Youtube cEstpk1ucnU
 
2018-02-06 01:43:39 PM  
Zanna - Sweet Coffee
Youtube qhXEwnT_Do8
 
2018-02-06 01:56:00 PM  
Bow Wow Wow I Want Candy (1982)
Youtube 1B3xh-FcivI

Obscure?
 
2018-02-06 02:17:48 PM  

jaytkay: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/1B3xh-Fc​ivI]
Obscure?


Lisa Marie - Something's Jumpin' in Your Shirt
Youtube 2AjBwaM1q_M
 
2018-02-06 03:24:56 PM  
big meh here.   still there really is no good reason to rename it.
 
2018-02-06 04:07:24 PM  
The douche is naming it after a club that he owns so it's purely for PR.  That name has nothing to do with the painting whats-so-ever.  If the artist gave it a girl's name, then that's the name but it's pathetic to just name it any ol' random name you feel like when you had nothing to do with it's creation.  Total dick move.
 
2018-02-06 05:49:30 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: mjjt: He actually has quite a bit of power - if anyone wants the right to reproduce that work in a book, article or catalogue, he can set the terms for how it is described.

How so?  He owns the object, not the distribution / reproduction rights, no?  Since it wasn't a work for hire (i.e., he didn't hire Picasso) either the copyright has expired or it's still held by some other agency. In either case, he wouldn't own the copyright, so people can do whatever they want.  If he wants to call it "rock", so be it -- everyone else can just ignore him.

*Google-y*

When Titanic came out in 1993, the rights to Picasso's Les Demoiselles d'Avignon (1907) were still held by the Picasso estate, so I am guessing they still own the rights to Girl With A Red Beret And Pompom.

Not only that, but the woman in the painting was named Marie-Thérèse (Christie's lists her name as an alternate name for the painting). Calling it Annabel is kinda misleading, not to mention rude.


It's unclear which country's copyright laws would apply, but the US, England and France all have life of the author + 70 years as the copyright term. Picasso died in 1973, so unless this painting was for-hire, the Picasso estate still has the copyright. As to the name, that would seem to fall under the category of attribution rights, which are moral rights. Picasso didn't name this painting, so renaming it after a bar could be seen as misattribution or harm to the painting's reputation and be potentially actionable.
 
2018-02-06 06:56:23 PM  
Well, I've renamed it George after that sketch with that monster and Daffy duck. Knock your socks off, name things whatever you want.
 
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