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(Twitter)   So, what was Bill Belichick's reason for benching star CB Malcolm Butler for Super Bowl LII, weakening the defense and possibly costing his team the game? Butler smoked a marijuana and missed curfew the night before. Brilliant move, Bill. UPDATE: Tweet retracted   ( twitter.com) divider line
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2018-02-05 03:00:13 PM  
Adam Schefter quotes Butler as commenting, "They gave up on me. F-. It is what it is."

Methinks Butler will be looking for a trade soon.
 
2018-02-05 03:04:26 PM  
I actually give Bill credit. He has his rules and he's stuck by them. You f*ck up and break his rules, you are benched. It doesn't matter if you are anyone not named Tom Brady, you will sit.
 
2018-02-05 03:11:20 PM  

Captain Steroid: Adam Schefter quotes Butler as commenting, "They gave up on me. F-. It is what it is."

Methinks Butler will be looking for a trade soon.


He's going to be a free agent.  They're not going to franchise tag him so he's walking anyway.

Bill was farking stupid to bench him.
 
2018-02-05 03:11:35 PM  

Captain Steroid: Adam Schefter quotes Butler as commenting, "They gave up on me. F-. It is what it is."

Methinks Butler will be looking for a trade soon.


I believe he's a FA after the game; in any case, he farked up a big payday ahead of him.

/YYY someone will pay it anyway
//then regret it when the NFL suspends him for 4 weeks
 
2018-02-05 03:37:10 PM  
Huh. So, they a) have a curfew, like they were at band camp, and; b) he was searched for contraband, like they were at band camp?

Neat. And treating professional football players like they were at band camp cost their franchise, its owner, their community, and the advertisers & other folks who would've indirectly profited on a Pats win millions of dollars.
 
2018-02-05 03:44:25 PM  

FormlessOne: Huh. So, they a) have a curfew, like they were at band camp, and; b) he was searched for contraband, like they were at band camp?

Neat. And treating professional football players like they were at band camp cost their franchise, its owner, their community, and the advertisers & other folks who would've indirectly profited on a Pats win millions of dollars.


I was just thinking this.  It seems to me that professional athletes are somewhat infantilized throughout their careers and are never really given the opportunity to learn how to make good choices.  Where they go, what they eat, who they room with, when they go to bed, all of it is decided for them during the season.  Is it any wonder they get up to all kinds of idiocy in the off-season?
 
2018-02-05 03:51:12 PM  

FormlessOne: Huh. So, they a) have a curfew, like they were at band camp, and; b) he was searched for contraband, like they were at band camp?

Neat. And treating professional football players like they were at band camp cost their franchise, its owner, their community, and the advertisers & other folks who would've indirectly profited on a Pats win millions of dollars.


Bellichick/the team had some very simple rules - get back to your room by 11pm, no weed. Butler decided he didn't want to follow those rules, betraying his team. He could have simply followed the rules, but chose not to.
 
2018-02-05 03:55:30 PM  

dj_bigbird: FormlessOne: Huh. So, they a) have a curfew, like they were at band camp, and; b) he was searched for contraband, like they were at band camp?

Neat. And treating professional football players like they were at band camp cost their franchise, its owner, their community, and the advertisers & other folks who would've indirectly profited on a Pats win millions of dollars.

Bellichick/the team had some very simple rules - get back to your room by 11pm, no weed. Butler decided he didn't want to follow those rules, betraying his team. He could have simply followed the rules, but chose not to.


You have one game to play for a championship.  You have one player who may have violated team rules (we still don't know for sure why he was benched, Belichick claims it wasn't disciplinary) who will never suit up for the team again.  Do you a) bench the player while your backups get torched, resulting in a loss or b) play the player, win the game, and nobody gives a fark about it later?

Seems like a really easy call to make.
 
2018-02-05 04:03:07 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: dj_bigbird: FormlessOne: Huh. So, they a) have a curfew, like they were at band camp, and; b) he was searched for contraband, like they were at band camp?

Neat. And treating professional football players like they were at band camp cost their franchise, its owner, their community, and the advertisers & other folks who would've indirectly profited on a Pats win millions of dollars.

Bellichick/the team had some very simple rules - get back to your room by 11pm, no weed. Butler decided he didn't want to follow those rules, betraying his team. He could have simply followed the rules, but chose not to.

You have one game to play for a championship.  You have one player who may have violated team rules (we still don't know for sure why he was benched, Belichick claims it wasn't disciplinary) who will never suit up for the team again.  Do you a) bench the player while your backups get torched, resulting in a loss or b) play the player, win the game, and nobody gives a fark about it later?

Seems like a really easy call to make.


Yeah, but he got away with disrepect!  He must RESPECT Belichik's authori-ty!
 
2018-02-05 04:07:48 PM  

Rwa2play: believe he's a FA after the game; in any case, he farked up a big payday ahead of him.


Did he?

New England didn't play him and suddenly looked like a high school defense.
 
2018-02-05 04:09:08 PM  
On the one hand, it's the biggest game of the season and if your coach tells you you need to be back at the hotel at a certain time and without carrying an weed, you should probably listen to him.

On the other hand, it's the biggest game of the season and if one of your best players is not injured or in trouble with the league/LEOs, you should probably consider still playing him and doling the punishment after the game (although it's kinda hard to when he's a FA after said game).
 
2018-02-05 04:10:12 PM  
It was the rules. You farked up. Don't get mad at them for enforcing them
 
2018-02-05 04:11:09 PM  
Saints will trade you Marcus Williams straight across for Butler, Bill
 
2018-02-05 04:11:26 PM  

dj_bigbird: FormlessOne: Huh. So, they a) have a curfew, like they were at band camp, and; b) he was searched for contraband, like they were at band camp?

Neat. And treating professional football players like they were at band camp cost their franchise, its owner, their community, and the advertisers & other folks who would've indirectly profited on a Pats win millions of dollars.

Bellichick/the team had some very simple rules - get back to your room by 11pm, no weed. Butler decided he didn't want to follow those rules, betraying his team. He could have simply followed the rules, but chose not to.


This. Rules are rules.
 
2018-02-05 04:11:26 PM  
WTF kind of source is that?
 
2018-02-05 04:11:35 PM  
I guess the opposite side of it would be if you was getting high all night didn't get good sleep and they put them out on the field and he gave up a couple of touchdowns and missing assignments everybody would be criticizing them for playing this guy the night after he was out past curfew getting high
 
2018-02-05 04:12:26 PM  
"he" not you, I don't understand autocorrect sometimes
 
2018-02-05 04:13:21 PM  
Malcolm Butler follows guys around on the field and tackles them when they catch the ball.
Eric Rowe does the same thing, except he didn't get caught doing whatever Butler allegedly did.

In the meantime, Butler's free agency value goes from $12+ million to $10-ish million, but he's only guaranteed a return trip to the Super Bowl if he signs with the team that he's already on - at a further discounted rate.

/The Belichick giveth and the Belichick taketh away
 
2018-02-05 04:15:39 PM  
Nadie_AZ: I actually give Bill credit. He has his rules and he's stuck by them. You f*ck up and break his rules, you are benched. It doesn't matter if you are anyone not named Tom Brady, you will sit.


You have to respect that.

/Ugh.
//I just complimented Darth Hoodie.
///I need to take a shower.
////Like the one in "Silkwood".
 
2018-02-05 04:17:48 PM  
There's another story that he got benched for cleaning out his locker before going to Minnesota, owing to his FA status, and it showed "disrespect to the franchise."
 
2018-02-05 04:17:58 PM  

FormlessOne: Huh. So, they a) have a curfew, like they were at band camp, and; b) he was searched for contraband, like they were at band camp?

Neat. And treating professional football players like they were at band camp cost their franchise, its owner, their community, and the advertisers & other folks who would've indirectly profited on a Pats win millions of dollars.



A better analysis:

Butler enjoys weed and staying out late more than playing in a Super Bowl.
 
2018-02-05 04:18:58 PM  
I heard he killed a guy in 'nam
 
2018-02-05 04:20:02 PM  

FormlessOne: Huh. So, they a) have a curfew, like they were at band camp, and; b) he was searched for contraband, like they were at band camp?

Neat. And treating professional football players like they were at band camp cost their franchise, its owner, their community, and the advertisers & other folks who would've indirectly profited on a Pats win millions of dollars.


I ran the student union at a university that hosted an NFL training camp. there are a lot more rules than just curfew. With how much those guys get paid, they didn't seem to mind. I actually felt kind of bad, though. It felt like they were isolating the players from the world around them. But, on the other hand, buckets of money.
 
2018-02-05 04:20:43 PM  

WillofJ2: I guess the opposite side of it would be if you was getting high all night didn't get good sleep and they put them out on the field and he gave up a couple of touchdowns and missing assignments everybody would be criticizing them for playing this guy the night after he was out past curfew getting high


...In a related story, both teams' defenses were out late Saturday night getting high.
 
2018-02-05 04:21:09 PM  
It's the biggest game of the year and I wished Butler had played. On the other hand, he should have realized by now what Belichick is like.

I know the Eagles purposely targeted Rowe, but they also played the game of their lives.
 
2018-02-05 04:21:21 PM  

FormlessOne: Huh. So, they a) have a curfew, like they were at band camp, and; b) he was searched for contraband, like they were at band camp?

Neat. And treating professional football players like they were at band camp cost their franchise, its owner, their community, and the advertisers & other folks who would've indirectly profited on a Pats win millions of dollars.


Given how players have partied hard before other Super Bowls, maybe it's a good idea to have that rule in place.

Remember how McNabb puked during his Super Bowl appearance?  Was he really sick, or did he have a few cocktails the night before?
 
2018-02-05 04:22:31 PM  
I'm not exactly trusting of an article on a satire website, written by NFLMemes, and referencing a tweet.
 
2018-02-05 04:24:21 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: WillofJ2: I guess the opposite side of it would be if you was getting high all night didn't get good sleep and they put them out on the field and he gave up a couple of touchdowns and missing assignments everybody would be criticizing them for playing this guy the night after he was out past curfew getting high

...In a related story, both teams' defenses were out late Saturday night getting high.


I would definitely believe it for Sunday night, as a random thought if you are on the winning Super Bowl team you should be Exempted from drug testing for the next year
 
2018-02-05 04:25:57 PM  
Unless things have changed since 1330 EST today, Bill Belichick is still not telling anyone why Malcolm Butler played only one special teams snap last night.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22​3​34524/bill-belichick-says-malcolm-butl​er-benching-super-bowl-said-was
 
2018-02-05 04:27:19 PM  

The_Sponge: FormlessOne: Huh. So, they a) have a curfew, like they were at band camp, and; b) he was searched for contraband, like they were at band camp?

Neat. And treating professional football players like they were at band camp cost their franchise, its owner, their community, and the advertisers & other folks who would've indirectly profited on a Pats win millions of dollars.


A better analysis:

Butler enjoys weed and staying out late more than playing in a Super Bowl.


An even better analysis: Belichick cared more about his authoritah and influence over a lame duck player than he did about winning another Super Bowl.
 
2018-02-05 04:28:12 PM  

This text is now purple: Rwa2play: believe he's a FA after the game; in any case, he farked up a big payday ahead of him.

Did he?

New England didn't play him and suddenly looked like a high school defense.


If anything Butler's value went up. He didn't play, the defense without him looked helpless, highlighting his value. Plus NE got to lose a game they might have won had he played.

But "rules are rules" people think this is a good thing.
 
2018-02-05 04:32:20 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: An even better analysis: Belichick cared more about his authoritah and influence over a lame duck player than he did about winning another Super Bowl.


thorpe: But "rules are rules" people think this is a good thing.



You know what?  I'm not even going to argue about this anymore.  (Those words have never been said on Fark.)

I'm in a good mood, the Pats lost, and this situation has added more drama to their organization.
 
2018-02-05 04:34:09 PM  

thorpe: But "rules are rules" people think this is a good thing.


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/Not arguing.
//But that's one of Red Forman's best quotes.
///Just posting it for shiats and giggles.
 
2018-02-05 04:34:59 PM  
The guy who wrote that tweet that article is citing already retracted it.
 
2018-02-05 04:38:22 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: The_Sponge: FormlessOne: Huh. So, they a) have a curfew, like they were at band camp, and; b) he was searched for contraband, like they were at band camp?

Neat. And treating professional football players like they were at band camp cost their franchise, its owner, their community, and the advertisers & other folks who would've indirectly profited on a Pats win millions of dollars.


A better analysis:

Butler enjoys weed and staying out late more than playing in a Super Bowl.

An even better analysis: Belichick cared more about his authoritah and influence over a lame duck player than he did about winning another Super Bowl.



You don't win 5 Super Bowls by letting your ego get in the way.
 
2018-02-05 04:40:07 PM  
Why do people insist on questioning the brilliance of Bill? He said they had a better chance of winning with their starting cornerback on the bench, so it must be true.
 
2018-02-05 04:40:39 PM  
I'm OK with this.
 
2018-02-05 04:42:22 PM  

Lifeless: The guy who wrote that tweet that article is citing already retracted it.


A whole thread dedicated to calling a guy an idiot based off of a rumor that some guy tweeted and is now backing away from.
 
2018-02-05 04:45:35 PM  
the assumptions that the Patriots would have just won with Butler are so cute I just want to tickle them.
 
2018-02-05 04:46:36 PM  
Meh, it's all shoulda, woulda, coulda.  There's no reason to think the Pats would have won because one defensive player was in over another.  Foles and Philly were on fire and there's little to say any of the Pats could have stopped them.

That being said, to go out really late to score weed the NIGHT BEFORE THE SUPERBOWL was the stupidest thing anyone could have done.  ONE night, he couldn't have waited ONE night??   Butler was a freakin dumbass and I'm sure conservative Bill didn't want that kind of dumbass playing for him.
 
2018-02-05 04:47:36 PM  

Captain Steroid: Adam Schefter quotes Butler as commenting, "They gave up on me. F-. It is what it is."

Methinks Butler will be looking for a trade soon.


See how well that worked out for Blount.
 
2018-02-05 04:49:26 PM  
To calm down on my rant a bit, that's all assuming the story is true.  If not, then wow, sorry Butler.
 
2018-02-05 04:51:46 PM  
If true, tag applies to Butler, not Bellichick.

Might be a different story if Bellichick didn't already win 5 rings for the Pats. But he's always built and coached the team around the feeling that every player is replaceable (even Brady to some extent, though he got overruled on that this season). No way he's going to, or should, let someone pull a ridiculously dumb move like that the night before the Super Bowl and just let him get away with it.  Otherwise, his team-building and coaching philosophy won't hold any water with his future players.
 
2018-02-05 04:52:00 PM  
I can't believe I'm the first to point out that these men live by a warrior's code that we couldn't possibly understand.
 
2018-02-05 04:52:33 PM  
In other news, Butler will be getting a SB ring, courtesy of the Eagles.

/and, again, this looks like Trekiak being pulled against the Americans for the Miracle on Ice
 
2018-02-05 04:55:59 PM  

robsul82: There's another story that he got benched for cleaning out his locker before going to Minnesota, owing to his FA status, and it showed "disrespect to the franchise."


I believe that story much more. If he got caught with pot, he would have been a scratch.
 
2018-02-05 04:56:00 PM  

Lochaber_Axe: Meh, it's all shoulda, woulda, coulda.  There's no reason to think the Pats would have won because one defensive player was in over another.  Foles and Philly were on fire and there's little to say any of the Pats could have stopped them.



Side note:

Not that it matters, but after the game, I briefly wondered if the Eagles would have still won it all if Wentz had not been injured.
 
2018-02-05 04:57:42 PM  
I would not have benched him. Given him ten different kinds of hell yes .  but not benching.

Short of his getting his dumb ass arrested you do not bench your best secondary player.

Not saying with him in the game the Pats would have won but there will always be that what if?
 
2018-02-05 04:58:03 PM  
Brilliant move, Bill Malcolm
FTFY, Subby. Coaching staff did the right thing.
 
2018-02-05 04:59:21 PM  

grimlock1972: I would not have benched him. Given him ten different kinds of hell yes .  but not benching.

Short of his getting his dumb ass arrested you do not bench your best secondary player for the Superb Owl.

Not saying with him in the game the Pats would have won but there will always be that what if?


any other game hell yes i would bench his ass.
 
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