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2018-02-05 11:56:37 AM  
So, he just told the entire world that he has the herp? Smooth.
 
2018-02-05 12:23:22 PM  
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2018-02-05 01:03:23 PM  
Oh, goody! I was worried that we wouldn't bring back the Victorian era of reckless medical experimentation. See "History, those who forget" for more information at any goddamned local library or, if you're inclined, online.
 
2018-02-05 01:18:54 PM  
FTFA:
"The idea that any scientist, biohacker or not, has created a cure for a disease with no testing and no data is more ridiculous than believing jet fuel melts steel beams," Zayner said.

There's a conspiracy theory dog whistle I've not heard in a long time. A 9/11 truther. And he's presented as the sane voice in the article. What has this world come to?
 
2018-02-05 02:13:31 PM  
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2018-02-05 02:15:30 PM  
In anticipation of the non-science folks who may have questions, I have developed a list of reasons of why you would do this:
 
2018-02-05 02:17:44 PM  
I kept reading Traywick as Trainwreck for some reason.
 
2018-02-05 02:22:24 PM  
Probably just saline solution and trying to get people to fund him.
 
2018-02-05 02:22:34 PM  
 
2018-02-05 02:34:43 PM  
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2018-02-05 02:39:48 PM  

TNel: Probably just saline solution and trying to get people to fund him.


First thing I thought, because he acted like doing it in front of an audience "proved" something.
 
2018-02-05 02:44:32 PM  

SumJackass07: FTFA:
"The idea that any scientist, biohacker or not, has created a cure for a disease with no testing and no data is more ridiculous than believing jet fuel melts steel beams," Zayner said.

There's a conspiracy theory dog whistle I've not heard in a long time. A 9/11 truther. And he's presented as the sane voice in the article. What has this world come to?


Came here to mention this guy. The specific point he's making is correct; the self-injecting dude is either dangerously delusional or injecting himself with saline for publicity. However, I'm also pretty sure that I would never take "biohacking" advice (or any other kind of advice) from someone who can't be bothered to spend five minutes googling a yield strength vs. temperature curve.

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Ref: https://doi.org/10.1061/(ASCE)MT​.1943-​5533.0000600

/ Not a mechanical or civil engineer, still took me all of 30 seconds
 
2018-02-05 02:45:27 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: [img.fark.net image 850x589]


So, he tried to elevate himself!
 
2018-02-05 02:58:25 PM  
HE IS INVINCIBLE!
 
2018-02-05 03:05:33 PM  
FTA: "Instead of being developed by research scientists in laboratories, it was created by a biohacker named Andreas Stuermer, who "holds a masters degree and is a bioentrepreneur and science lover," according to a conference bio."
Anybody know what this maters degree is in?
 
2018-02-05 03:18:01 PM  
I like their timeline

Cure herpes- then straight to cancer
 
2018-02-05 03:30:42 PM  

SumJackass07: FTFA:
"The idea that any scientist, biohacker or not, has created a cure for a disease with no testing and no data is more ridiculous than believing jet fuel melts steel beams," Zayner said.

There's a conspiracy theory dog whistle I've not heard in a long time. A 9/11 truther. And he's presented as the sane voice in the article. What has this world come to?


Wait what? I thought the sane, non-conspiracy people concluded that burning jet fuel DIDN'T melt steel beams, it weakened them so they bent or collapsed?? And then the floors supported by the beams crashed down and took out everything below.
 
2018-02-05 03:31:13 PM  

SumJackass07: FTFA:
"The idea that any scientist, biohacker or not, has created a cure for a disease with no testing and no data is more ridiculous than believing jet fuel melts steel beams," Zayner said.

There's a conspiracy theory dog whistle I've not heard in a long time. A 9/11 truther. And he's presented as the sane voice in the article. What has this world come to?


I came to post that exact quote.

Wonder if the author picked it because he agrees with the "sane" voice, or to point them all out as kooks.
 
2018-02-05 03:33:23 PM  
Step aside good people, I'm a biohacker.  I'm here to hack bios, and by-god we'll get this game to work!
 
2018-02-05 03:35:54 PM  

itcamefromschenectady: SumJackass07: FTFA:
"The idea that any scientist, biohacker or not, has created a cure for a disease with no testing and no data is more ridiculous than believing jet fuel melts steel beams," Zayner said.

There's a conspiracy theory dog whistle I've not heard in a long time. A 9/11 truther. And he's presented as the sane voice in the article. What has this world come to?

Wait what? I thought the sane, non-conspiracy people concluded that burning jet fuel DIDN'T melt steel beams, it weakened them so they bent or collapsed?? And then the floors supported by the beams crashed down and took out everything below.


The point of "jet fuel can't melt steel" is the truthers saying it was a controlled demolition or there was some other (intentional) action at play that brought the buildings down.

While in reality burning kerosene and paper are hot enough to push steel past the first inflection point on the yield-temperature curve.

It doesn't liquify steel, but it's enough to lose 80% of its strength.
 
2018-02-05 03:36:18 PM  
I wonder if Capt Herpes is a flat earther.
 
2018-02-05 03:49:51 PM  
Do you want Rapture? Because that's how you get Rapture!

/Somewhere, beyond the sea...
 
2018-02-05 03:59:32 PM  

Thingster: itcamefromschenectady: SumJackass07: FTFA:
"The idea that any scientist, biohacker or not, has created a cure for a disease with no testing and no data is more ridiculous than believing jet fuel melts steel beams," Zayner said.

There's a conspiracy theory dog whistle I've not heard in a long time. A 9/11 truther. And he's presented as the sane voice in the article. What has this world come to?

Wait what? I thought the sane, non-conspiracy people concluded that burning jet fuel DIDN'T melt steel beams, it weakened them so they bent or collapsed?? And then the floors supported by the beams crashed down and took out everything below.

The point of "jet fuel can't melt steel" is the truthers saying it was a controlled demolition or there was some other (intentional) action at play that brought the buildings down.

While in reality burning kerosene and paper are hot enough to push steel past the first inflection point on the yield-temperature curve.

It doesn't liquify steel, but it's enough to lose 80% of its strength.


Ah yes, the good old days when the crazy was just trying to wish they could blame the government on things. Every Truther had their own beliefs, and I learned a lot about argument from that era. Metals soften before they melt, that's why we forge iron. Concrete melts at a lower temperature than steel, which is why concrete furnaces can be made of steel.

It felt harmless, but it was the breeding ground for the alt-right, wasn't it? All the conspiracy oriented culture made it about themselves.
 
2018-02-05 04:08:55 PM  
I'd rather he tested it on himself than on a "volunteer".
 
2018-02-05 04:17:45 PM  
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2018-02-05 04:33:53 PM  
What's the ethical problem here?

He is voluntarily injecting himself with something that is clearly designated by the authorities as not for human consumption.

He's an adult? He knows that it's not for human consumption? He's doing it anyway?

Okay then.
 
2018-02-05 04:44:26 PM  
Ladies and gentlemen, everyone welcome PATIENT ZERO!
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!
 
2018-02-05 04:44:51 PM  

ThatGuyOverThere: FTA: "Instead of being developed by research scientists in laboratories, it was created by a biohacker named Andreas Stuermer, who "holds a masters degree and is a bioentrepreneur and science lover," according to a conference bio."
Anybody know what this maters degree is in?


IN SCIENCE!
 
2018-02-05 04:50:06 PM  
FTFA: "...more ridiculous than believing jet fuel melts steel beams,"
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2018-02-05 05:14:29 PM  
Lame.  The Nick already did that.  Quit copying fool.
 
2018-02-05 05:37:57 PM  

doglover: What's the ethical problem here?

He is voluntarily injecting himself with something that is clearly designated by the authorities as not for human consumption.

He's an adult? He knows that it's not for human consumption? He's doing it anyway?

Okay then.


The government(s) gets to decide what goes into and comes out of your body.
 
2018-02-05 08:01:15 PM  
I have an old friend who has the herpes. He told me there is a matchmaking website just for people with herpes. He gets laid A LOT. Evidently, herpes ain't all that bad.
 
2018-02-05 08:21:23 PM  

WelldeadLink: ThatGuyOverThere: FTA: "Instead of being developed by research scientists in laboratories, it was created by a biohacker named Andreas Stuermer, who "holds a masters degree and is a bioentrepreneur and science lover," according to a conference bio."
Anybody know what this maters degree is in?

IN SCIENCE!


I guess I walked into that one...
 
2018-02-05 09:07:33 PM  
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2018-02-05 09:49:04 PM  
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2018-02-05 10:39:04 PM  

PreMortem: I have an old friend who has the herpes. He told me there is a matchmaking website just for people with herpes. He gets laid A LOT. Evidently, herpes ain't all that bad.


herpez.com?
 
2018-02-06 12:32:40 AM  

doglover: What's the ethical problem here?

He is voluntarily injecting himself with something that is clearly designated by the authorities as not for human consumption.

He's an adult? He knows that it's not for human consumption? He's doing it anyway?

Okay then.


That pretty well covers it.

There is no ethical problem with this.

It's not the current standard, but it IS how many commonly used drugs were tested.
 
2018-02-06 08:54:15 AM  
I'm ok with this. Anyone with a few tens of thousands of dollars can afford the equipment necessary to manipulate bacteria and viruses, and it really isn't that hard to accomplish. Proving you've done what you say you've done without multiple subjects and trials, well, that's another matter.  That's what the big pharmaceutical companies have been doing to poor people in India for about a decade now.
 
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