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(Radio Times)   Steven Moffat and Mark Gatiss says there will probably be a fifth series/season of Sherlock in a couple of years....Or three....Or four   ( radiotimes.com) divider line
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2018-02-03 11:03:16 AM  
After the shiat they pulled in Season 3 I'm fine with ... never

First two seasons were great, but when  they diverted the entire season into this story arc about some "super-spy" BS, the show lost all meaning and relevance. Also, the production quality went down the shiatter and it seemed more like a cheap tele-drama than the show I had been watching the previous 2 seasons
 
2018-02-03 11:57:29 AM  
The last season was a letdown
 
2018-02-03 12:10:25 PM  
moffat's off doctor who, so that's a start at least
 
2018-02-03 12:13:57 PM  
Moffat generally has a couple of great ideas. Then nothing after that.

And I'm not knocking that, cause a couple of great ideas is more than most of us have.
 
2018-02-03 12:18:54 PM  
who?
 
FNG [TotalFark]
2018-02-03 02:01:22 PM  
Brits don't seem to mind waiting years between seasons of shows.  I don't get it.

I stopped watching Doctor Who after the 2 year hiatus a couple years back.  Fark that.
 
2018-02-03 03:15:59 PM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: moffat's off doctor who, so that's a start at least


The new guy is the guy who helmed Torchwood so...but he also helmed Broadchurch, so I'll wait and see.
 
2018-02-03 03:20:53 PM  

LoneWolf343: Dead for Tax Reasons: moffat's off doctor who, so that's a start at least

The new guy is the guy who helmed Torchwood so...but he also helmed Broadchurch, so I'll wait and see.


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he also went on tv 30 years ago to complain about doctor who.  he was complaining about colin baker's era, so it may be ok
 
2018-02-03 03:23:18 PM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: LoneWolf343: Dead for Tax Reasons: moffat's off doctor who, so that's a start at least

The new guy is the guy who helmed Torchwood so...but he also helmed Broadchurch, so I'll wait and see.

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he also went on tv 30 years ago to complain about doctor who.  he was complaining about colin baker's era, so it may be ok


Tom Baker is best Baker.

/and Peri had nothing going for her other than the boobs
 
2018-02-03 04:00:59 PM  
With all the complaints about the last season, makes me glad I didn't bother.  It was on the media player, just couldn't bother to start it and finally just admitted that I didn't want to.
 
2018-02-03 04:38:55 PM  

FrancoFile: Dead for Tax Reasons: LoneWolf343: Dead for Tax Reasons: moffat's off doctor who, so that's a start at least

The new guy is the guy who helmed Torchwood so...but he also helmed Broadchurch, so I'll wait and see.

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he also went on tv 30 years ago to complain about doctor who.  he was complaining about colin baker's era, so it may be ok

Tom Baker is best Baker.

/and Peri had nothing going for her other than the boobs


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You say that like it's a bad thing.
 
2018-02-03 04:42:55 PM  
As long as it sticks with Sherlock, and doesn't continue being the "Mary Watson Variety Hour" I'm fine with that.
 
2018-02-03 04:43:46 PM  
If they could keep the Sherlock show about mysteries and crimes, and give the audience a chance to play along, it'd be great. Super Spy Action Drama isn't what I tuned in for. "Murder She Wrote" isn't difficult television to make. That's the bar.
 
2018-02-03 04:55:47 PM  
That's still a faster pace than Venture Brothers
 
2018-02-03 04:58:49 PM  

rcain: After the shiat they pulled in Season 3 I'm fine with ... never

First two seasons were great, but when  they diverted the entire season into this story arc about some "super-spy" BS, the show lost all meaning and relevance. Also, the production quality went down the shiatter and it seemed more like a cheap tele-drama than the show I had been watching the previous 2 seasons


I didn't realize the drop in quality of season 3 until retroactively after season 4. i was still wearing rose colored glasses. Although I wasn't as excited after each episode.
 
2018-02-03 05:32:40 PM  

CigaretteSmokingMan: FrancoFile: Dead for Tax Reasons: LoneWolf343: Dead for Tax Reasons: moffat's off doctor who, so that's a start at least

The new guy is the guy who helmed Torchwood so...but he also helmed Broadchurch, so I'll wait and see.

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he also went on tv 30 years ago to complain about doctor who.  he was complaining about colin baker's era, so it may be ok

Tom Baker is best Baker.

/and Peri had nothing going for her other than the boobs

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You say that like it's a bad thing.


I loved her in Star Trek

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2018-02-03 05:33:32 PM  

Aezetyr: CigaretteSmokingMan: FrancoFile: Dead for Tax Reasons: LoneWolf343: Dead for Tax Reasons: moffat's off doctor who, so that's a start at least

The new guy is the guy who helmed Torchwood so...but he also helmed Broadchurch, so I'll wait and see.

[img.fark.net image 377x290]

he also went on tv 30 years ago to complain about doctor who.  he was complaining about colin baker's era, so it may be ok

Tom Baker is best Baker.

/and Peri had nothing going for her other than the boobs

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You say that like it's a bad thing.

I loved her in Star Trek

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Huh. That was supposed to be a joke...

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2018-02-03 05:36:20 PM  
There is a problem with the decreased budgets and time between series, but I'm sorry the real problem is Moffat. I have sympathy for a non-genius (meant as no insult) writing a farking next level extra-human genius (meant as no compliment), because it's crazy hard. There are no fiction writers that smart really. But there are ways around that gap, hard as it may be. I like a lot about Moffat but he makes a fundamental choice error to go the route of literally having every character AND the genius tell the audience how brilliant and clever he is. It can work for a while, but long term it's death, and what both shows struggled so mightily. Once you've committed to surface level flashy displays and direct telling-not-showing commands to believe in a characters genius (without writing the character as a genius) the whole show (both of them) fall apart under their own weight. Sherlock needs to go, and Who needed a new show runner. Moffat needs to go back incubating ideas in other people's universes. In control of his own, we get this soupy nonsense.
 
2018-02-03 05:39:36 PM  

brandnewchair: rcain: After the shiat they pulled in Season 3 I'm fine with ... never

First two seasons were great, but when  they diverted the entire season into this story arc about some "super-spy" BS, the show lost all meaning and relevance. Also, the production quality went down the shiatter and it seemed more like a cheap tele-drama than the show I had been watching the previous 2 seasons

I didn't realize the drop in quality of season 3 until retroactively after season 4. i was still wearing rose colored glasses. Although I wasn't as excited after each episode.


I think I came into season 3 with high expectations, they had two seasons under their belt and some very well defined characters. I'm not sure exactly what episode it was, either the 1st or the 2nd but I remember being very upset and actually yelling "what the fark is this shiat?" out loud at the TV and turning the show off. I tried watching the next episode and but within just a few minutes it was clear it was no mere fluke. That show has been dead to me ever since. The exact scene that killed it was clearly performed on a cramped, poorly lit soundstage with purple lighting with Sherlock and Watson dicking around in the Mary Watson "plot line" -- it looked like a god damned amateur cable access production
 
2018-02-03 05:40:34 PM  
Just watch "Sherlock is Garbage" on YouTube.  It's better than anything from the last two seasons.
 
2018-02-03 05:57:25 PM  

FNG: Brits don't seem to mind waiting years between seasons of shows.  I don't get it.

I stopped watching Doctor Who after the 2 year hiatus a couple years back.  Fark that.


Yep, what we need is twenty four episodes a season every year of the same bland, turgid crap written by the same hacks that rotate from show to show leaving the programs with no actual character.
 
2018-02-03 06:15:18 PM  

Norfolking Chance: FNG: Brits don't seem to mind waiting years between seasons of shows.  I don't get it.

I stopped watching Doctor Who after the 2 year hiatus a couple years back.  Fark that.

Yep, what we need is twenty four episodes a season every year of the same bland, turgid crap written by the same hacks that rotate from show to show leaving the programs with no actual character.


Well yeah. Unless you fully embrace such a formula, you're never gonna be able to create a masterpiece like Two Broke Girls.
 
2018-02-03 06:34:32 PM  

docmattic: As long as it sticks with Sherlock, and doesn't continue being the "Mary Watson Variety Hour" I'm fine with that.


Uh, you definitely don't need to worry about that one happening next season...
 
2018-02-03 06:42:41 PM  
... I don't even remember the past few seasons. I just checked Wikipedia, and confirmed, I saw all the episodes. They just left no impression.
 
2018-02-03 06:43:17 PM  

DrowningLessons: There is a problem with the decreased budgets and time between series, but I'm sorry the real problem is Moffat. I have sympathy for a non-genius (meant as no insult) writing a farking next level extra-human genius (meant as no compliment), because it's crazy hard. There are no fiction writers that smart really. But there are ways around that gap, hard as it may be. I like a lot about Moffat but he makes a fundamental choice error to go the route of literally having every character AND the genius tell the audience how brilliant and clever he is. It can work for a while, but long term it's death, and what both shows struggled so mightily. Once you've committed to surface level flashy displays and direct telling-not-showing commands to believe in a characters genius (without writing the character as a genius) the whole show (both of them) fall apart under their own weight. Sherlock needs to go, and Who needed a new show runner. Moffat needs to go back incubating ideas in other people's universes. In control of his own, we get this soupy nonsense.


Oh shut up he knows that us American fan girls just wanna see pretty British men with smooth velvety voices doing things that involve a lot of talking. Hell you could have Bennidict Putitinmysnatch read the damn phone book and it would make me ovulate.
 
2018-02-03 06:46:18 PM  

KerplunkSploosh: If they could keep the Sherlock show about mysteries and crimes, and give the audience a chance to play along, it'd be great. Super Spy Action Drama isn't what I tuned in for. "Murder She Wrote" isn't difficult television to make. That's the bar.


This
 
2018-02-03 06:51:22 PM  
That's fine. Gives us more time to enjoy the far superior Holmes series "Elementary".

/I mean, it's got a female Watson, what more do you need?
 
2018-02-03 06:58:32 PM  

Flappyhead: Just watch "Sherlock is Garbage" on YouTube.  It's better than anything from the last two seasons.


Just link it to them directly. I also highly recommend this video. He's very thorough and his argument is compelling. He also touches on the Moffet run on Doctor Who.

Sherlock Is Garbage, And Here's Why
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/TL;DR Moffet uses misdirection to write "smart" characters and never delivers on promises.
//This video made me realize that Moffet has been influencing my own writing in bad ways.
 
2018-02-03 07:43:22 PM  

enry: The last season was a letdown


I bought it on dvd but haven't watched it yet.  should I just skip it or what?
 
2018-02-03 07:52:38 PM  
The first 2 seasons were good."Scandal in Belgravia" was a great episode. Sherlock and Irene Adler onscreen together. That required repeated viewings. Excuse me, I'll be in my bunk.
 
2018-02-03 07:57:40 PM  

Skyking Skyking Do Not Answer: enry: The last season was a letdown

I bought it on dvd but haven't watched it yet.  should I just skip it or what?


I watched the first episode, and I honestly thought it was pretty good.
 
2018-02-03 08:01:47 PM  
I thoroughly enjoyed the Toby Jones episode in season 4, but the show went completely off the rails in episode 3 (I remember thinking to myself- Hold on a sec, is this Doctor Who or Sherlock?). The acting was amazing, but the premise and dialogue were absurd. I'll still tune in for season 5 if it ever happens, but I have no inkling where the hell it's headed now.
 
2018-02-03 08:24:16 PM  

docmattic: As long as it sticks with Sherlock, and doesn't continue being the "Mary Watson Variety Hour" I'm fine with that.


Season 3 did give us drunk Sherlock. Most of the Mary Watson parts are dull, but I do like to hop on my sitty thing and watch that part.
 
2018-02-03 08:34:16 PM  

FNG: Brits don't seem to mind waiting years between seasons of shows.  I don't get it.

I stopped watching Doctor Who after the 2 year hiatus a couple years back.  Fark that.


I was OK with that. There was some kind of reason, I can't remember why, like licensing or something, or trying to line up an agreement for streaming. It's when it happens consistently that bugs me. I learned to live with a few hiccups being a Battlestar Galactica fan, but I couldn't handle this 3 episodes, then 2 1/2 years before the next season shiat they do the whole time with Sherlock.
 
2018-02-03 08:42:28 PM  
I absolutely loved it at first but couldn't even make it through whatever the hell the last season was.

 Don't worry Sherlock Holmes fans - Will Ferrell is about to come to your party.
 
2018-02-03 08:58:18 PM  

FNG: Brits don't seem to mind waiting years between seasons of shows.  I don't get it.

I stopped watching Doctor Who after the 2 year hiatus a couple years back.  Fark that.


Ouch, I think I just cut myself on that edge.

Personally, I was a bit bummed out after the xmas special, knowing that it will be the best part of a year until the next episode.

But that's just how TV works, anyway. Throw out a cliffhanger, too keep you hooked until next time.

/Been geeking out on the master recently, just watching the end of Z'Ha'Dum right now.
//The length of time between series is immaterial; if the writing is good, you should tune in.
 
2018-02-04 12:01:49 AM  
Season 3 was dreadful. Like Marvel meets Conan Doyle.
And what's another season? Three shows?
 
2018-02-04 01:58:15 AM  

whatshisname: Season 3 was dreadful. Like Marvel meets Conan Doyle.
And what's another season? Three shows?


I liked the third season.  And The Sign Of Three is one of my favorite Sherlock episodes.
 
2018-02-04 02:02:31 AM  

iron de havilland: FNG: Brits don't seem to mind waiting years between seasons of shows.  I don't get it.

I stopped watching Doctor Who after the 2 year hiatus a couple years back.  Fark that.

Ouch, I think I just cut myself on that edge.

Personally, I was a bit bummed out after the xmas special, knowing that it will be the best part of a year until the next episode.

But that's just how TV works, anyway. Throw out a cliffhanger, too keep you hooked until next time.

/Been geeking out on the master recently, just watching the end of Z'Ha'Dum right now.
//The length of time between series is immaterial; if the writing is good, you should tune in.


I think the deal with the Xmas special is that apparently Moffet forget what the cliffhanger was supposed to be. I thought the theme of the story was an aging, weary Doctor who is tired of living and tired of losing friends has an adventure with his younger self that revitalizes him and sets him on a new path for the next showrunner to explore. Instead we got a half-hearted story where the plot turned out not to be a plot and we got a tie-in with the Chistmas Ceasefire in WW1 because reasons. It seems to me that Moffet was visibly tired of writing Doctor Who and simply couldn't be arsed to do even that much.
 
2018-02-04 10:00:42 AM  

browneye: whatshisname: Season 3 was dreadful. Like Marvel meets Conan Doyle.
And what's another season? Three shows?

I liked the third season.  And The Sign Of Three is one of my favorite Sherlock episodes.


that's the one where the mysterious black cubes show up and they just sit around watching them, trying to figure out what they are, right?
 
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