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2018-02-02 06:39:15 PM  
It's just as real as doing it in Overwatch
 
2018-02-02 10:19:36 PM  
Any time I want to experience the current landscape of online competitive PVP games released by AAA developers like EA or Ubisoft I just take a five dollar bill and flush it down the toilet.

/I'd flush less per experience but us Canadians use coins for those dominations and I'm afraid of causing damage to the plumbing
 
2018-02-02 10:24:29 PM  
This is why I play Warframe, no loot boxes, just a steady slow drip of credits out of your account.
 
2018-02-02 11:26:35 PM  
I find I've started to say "It is really strange what people are willing to devote a huge amount of time and energy to caring about" on an almost daily basis, generally in response to something like this- a character nerf in a video game, an actor's appearance in a movie trailer, a lyric in a pop song. It's almost like we don't have enough actual problems so we have to invent stuff to "care" about that's less psychologically harmful than caring about human rights abuses, climate change, or increasing resource scarcity.

/almost like that
 
2018-02-02 11:39:44 PM  
Everyone hates loot boxes and day 1 DLC but without them you'd be paying $80+ for a AAA game.
 
2018-02-02 11:42:42 PM  

Snapper Carr: Everyone hates loot boxes and day 1 DLC but without them you'd be paying $80+ for a AAA game.


Canadian here:  If I wanted to buy a AAA game on day one it already costs me $90, so meh.  Steam Sales.
 
2018-02-02 11:47:33 PM  

Snapper Carr: Everyone hates loot boxes and day 1 DLC but without them you'd be paying $80+ for a AAA game.


You don't think people would choose that if it was an option?
 
2018-02-02 11:56:01 PM  
You know what's the strangest thing.. EA is back to most hated and Ubisoft is slowly redeeming itself..

Assasins Creeed Origins is a damn great game and the pay to win system well done.. It's literally pay to win but playing the actual game to get the same crap doesn't require 9000 years of grinding and 7 heart attacks later to achieve.
 
kab
2018-02-02 11:58:29 PM  
Maybe it's a little over-ambitious to call these contraptions a "game" but they certainly replicate a pretty significant draw a lot of us have to modern multiplayer experiences.

They directly tap into the portion of your brain that simply enjoys reward for rewards sake.  The casino industry knows how to make great use of this, and other video games have in the past as well (I mean really..... when you boil it down, there's zero actual gameplay value in D3 once you've finished the storyline, but that never stopped anyone).

Snapper Carr: Everyone hates loot boxes and day 1 DLC but without them you'd be paying $80+ for a AAA game.


Or just waiting for a Steam sale, just like I do now.

This whole thing reminds me of the debate about MMO subscription models vs f2p / cash shop models.  The shops represent utterly backwards thinking on almost every level from the players point of view.
 
2018-02-03 12:40:32 AM  

grinding_journalist: I find I've started to say "It is really strange what people are willing to devote a huge amount of time and energy to caring about" on an almost daily basis, generally in response to something like this- a character nerf in a video game, an actor's appearance in a movie trailer, a lyric in a pop song. It's almost like we don't have enough actual problems so we have to invent stuff to "care" about that's less psychologically harmful than caring about human rights abuses, climate change, or increasing resource scarcity.

/almost like that


You dropped into a thread about video game loot boxes to see if anyone was solving serious world problems. Who empties your drool cup for you?
 
2018-02-03 12:56:19 AM  

BumpInTheNight: Any time I want to experience the current landscape of online competitive PVP games released by AAA developers like EA or Ubisoft I just take a five dollar bill and flush it down the toilet.

/I'd flush less per experience but us Canadians use coins for those dominations and I'm afraid of causing damage to the plumbing


Somewhere I read about an online stock trading site where you can trade without paying any commissions. Someone said this was appealing to millennials, because losing $500 on a penny stock is like dropping your iPhone in a toilet.
 
2018-02-03 05:30:08 AM  

grinding_journalist: I find I've started to say "It is really strange what people are willing to devote a huge amount of time and energy to caring about" on an almost daily basis, generally in response to something like this- a character nerf in a video game, an actor's appearance in a movie trailer, a lyric in a pop song. It's almost like we don't have enough actual problems so we have to invent stuff to "care" about that's less psychologically harmful than caring about human rights abuses, climate change, or increasing resource scarcity.

/almost like that


In that case, I don't think we will have to sorry about any of these "social problems" much longer.
 
2018-02-03 05:42:05 AM  
No. Just. No.

The long and tragic story. I've been beta testing games since 1991. Online. For real. Yes, we could do that with a 33.6 modem. Games weren't so memory intensive.

However I have not been in an era where our Internet is getting slower, more sluggish, more expensive and more monitored. For Example: Comcast installed "Fiber optic lines" to my neighborhood ... but everyone has copper into their home.

You may as well have the Indy 500 next door but you can't drive on it.

Neat. Fark your lies.
 
2018-02-03 05:47:54 AM  

Snapper Carr: Everyone hates loot boxes and day 1 DLC but without them you'd be paying $80+ for a AAA game.


citation needed.
 
2018-02-03 07:48:05 AM  

Snapper Carr: Everyone hates loot boxes and day 1 DLC but without them you'd be paying $80+ for a AAA game.


Nope.
 
2018-02-03 09:04:28 AM  

Vaginosilicosis: Snapper Carr: Everyone hates loot boxes and day 1 DLC but without them you'd be paying $80+ for a AAA game.

But we already are paying $80+ for AAA new releases.  (Well, not me, I'm not retarded so I wait for Steam sales)    Nobody who is buying those on release day is getting the crippled version because nobody wants to get the new War Of Dooty but not get all the maps, guns etc that everyone else has.

Just cut the pretense and charge $90 for the game instead of $60 plus a $30 "season pass", its not fooling anyone.    As for putting micro transactions on top of $90 games, not just in FTP ones, those companies can go fark themselves.


V2 of an iOS game app that just came out is doing that. $5 for the app and it *still* includes ads and micro-transactions.
 
2018-02-03 10:19:49 AM  
Jimquisition made "I Can't Believe It's Not Gambling" look pretty compelling.  Same lootbox thrill as BF2, only a dollar.
 
2018-02-03 01:17:24 PM  

Vaginosilicosis: Snapper Carr: Everyone hates loot boxes and day 1 DLC but without them you'd be paying $80+ for a AAA game.

But we already are paying $80+ for AAA new releases.  (Well, not me, I'm not retarded so I wait for Steam sales)    Nobody who is buying those on release day is getting the crippled version because nobody wants to get the new War Of Dooty but not get all the maps, guns etc that everyone else has.

Just cut the pretense and charge $90 for the game instead of $60 plus a $30 "season pass", its not fooling anyone.    As for putting micro transactions on top of $90 games, not just in FTP ones, those companies can go fark themselves.


Gamers used to dump a quarter into a slot when they wanted 3 more lives or to change characters. I don't even want to think about how much cash I dumped into Turtles in Time or Final Fight.
Gamers have weird expectations when it comes to money I suppose. We put hundreds or THOUSANDS of hours into a title and balk at a $60 or $70 pricetag.
I've personally adjusted my expectations with money and gaming.
 
2018-02-03 02:22:02 PM  
Lol methadone for gamers
 
2018-02-03 02:30:41 PM  

itcamefromschenectady: BumpInTheNight: Any time I want to experience the current landscape of online competitive PVP games released by AAA developers like EA or Ubisoft I just take a five dollar bill and flush it down the toilet.

/I'd flush less per experience but us Canadians use coins for those dominations and I'm afraid of causing damage to the plumbing

Somewhere I read about an online stock trading site where you can trade without paying any commissions. Someone said this was appealing to millennials, because losing $500 on a penny stock is like dropping your iPhone in a toilet.

But without the horrible loneliness!
 
2018-02-03 03:34:42 PM  

Vaginosilicosis: SharkaPult: I don't even want to think about how much cash I dumped into Turtles in Time or Final Fight

I'll see your Turtles arcade and raise you this.
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Good luck,   you'll need it.
 
2018-02-03 10:24:12 PM  

Vaginosilicosis: SharkaPult: Gamers used to dump a quarter into a slot when they wanted 3 more lives or to change characters. I don't even want to think about how much cash I dumped into Turtles in Time or Final Fight.
Gamers have weird expectations when it comes to money I suppose. We put hundreds or THOUSANDS of hours into a title and balk at a $60 or $70 pricetag.
I've personally adjusted my expectations with money and gaming.

Atari 2600 games cost 30 bucks new, the equivalent of $120 today.  NES games were $40-50 or about $95-100 in 2017 dollars.    But yet your average kid today will shiat themselves and go blind rather than pony up $1.99 for a phone game without virus serving ads, that would have been a whopping 55 cents back at 2600 release time, barely 2 rounds of Space Invaders at the 7-11.

I think its about time to reboot Vietnam.


No.  You're way off in terms of inflation.  $30 in 1980 is... not quite $60 today.  Source

The AAA studios just want to have their cake and eat it too... and then eat everyone else's cake and charge us for watching them eat it, if possible.  Then sell photos and video of all the cake-eating at premium prices.  And the non-AAA developers and publishers are going to follow them right off the cliff in pursuit of that sweet cash cow.  The market crashed once because of greed, it'll do so again.
 
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