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(Vox)   Your BMI says nothing about your health   ( vox.com) divider line
    More: PSA, body mass index, commonly used indicators, centuries-old formula, Obesity, Mass, significant drawbacks, Adolphe Quetelet, Belgian mathematician  
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2018-02-02 12:44:31 AM  
Can the mods PLEASE not green-light submissions from President Trump?
 
2018-02-02 01:03:32 AM  
Yeah, the Black Man's Iatrology really doesn't apply to me.
 
2018-02-02 01:26:12 AM  
What kills me is how many bodybuilders there are online who are completely misrepresented by their BMI.

God knows that if I let me muscles atrophy 30lbs I could be at what is supposedly a "healthy" BMI. Far be it from me to question science, but I'm going to just assume that maybe I know more about my body than a BMI table on WebMD does.
 
2018-02-02 01:47:20 AM  
Just calculated mine based on my last doctor's visit and it's 21.1 which appears to be on the low side of normal.

And I would not say my health is "good".
 
2018-02-02 02:53:43 AM  
According to the BMI, I'm borderline overweight at 5'2" 130 lbs.  I'm also a junior size 5 with a 26" waist who can lift my own body weight.  BMI is a bunch a crap which seems to exist solely to make me feel miserable that I don't fit society's ideal "skinny" body type.  Fark you with a splintered pool cue, BMI.
 
2018-02-02 03:01:36 AM  
I'm fat. Obese even. But way back when I was basically at an ideal weight for my body type I was technically "overweight". I would have had to shed about 5-10 pounds of straight muscle to reach into the "acceptable" category. Which is idiotic.

Having actual leg/calf muscles and shoulders half again as wide as most guys means you're overweight? Bullsh*t.
 
2018-02-02 03:33:56 AM  
But your BM can..
 
2018-02-02 04:07:53 AM  

Mr. Shabooboo: But your BM can..


Damn. Beat me to it
 
2018-02-02 04:15:07 AM  
There should really just be 3 categories: Normal, No One Will Fark You, and You're Going To Die

Note, the last two apply to overweight and underweight.
 
2018-02-02 04:46:43 AM  
Fat people's feel good thread of the week?
 
2018-02-02 05:26:24 AM  
No kidding. BMI was developed to evaluate the health/fitness of populations, not individuals.
 
2018-02-02 06:18:53 AM  

Mr. Shabooboo: But your BM can..


Aye.
 
2018-02-02 06:23:23 AM  
Obviously it doesn't tell you about your health, the BMI is a tool for telling you that you are too short.
 
2018-02-02 07:31:33 AM  
Your BMW says a lot about your dick size thou
 
2018-02-02 07:37:58 AM  

Cry Hentai And Release The Tentacles of War!: There should really just be 3 categories: Normal, No One Will Fark You, and You're Going To Die

Note, the last two apply to overweight and underweight.


Most people fall into the third category. Only a few people have gotten out of life alive.
 
2018-02-02 07:38:12 AM  

LewDux: Your BMW says a lot about your dick size thou


I thought it only spoke your likelihood of using turn signals (1% possibility).
 
2018-02-02 07:59:47 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: What kills me is how many bodybuilders there are online who are completely misrepresented by their BMI.

God knows that if I let me muscles atrophy 30lbs I could be at what is supposedly a "healthy" BMI. Far be it from me to question science, but I'm going to just assume that maybe I know more about my body than a BMI table on WebMD does.


Username doesn't check out.
 
2018-02-02 08:21:23 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: What kills me is how many bodybuilders there are online who are completely misrepresented by their BMI.

God knows that if I let me muscles atrophy 30lbs I could be at what is supposedly a "healthy" BMI. Far be it from me to question science, but I'm going to just assume that maybe I know more about my body than a BMI table on WebMD does.


On the other hand, you guys tend to die at like 46.
 
2018-02-02 08:24:22 AM  
Fatties don't like being told that they're fat.

Film at 11.
 
2018-02-02 08:41:40 AM  

rustypouch: Fatties don't like being told that they're fatshort.

Film at 11.


FTFY
 
2018-02-02 09:11:39 AM  
It's a good starting point. Not a be-all, end-all but still.
 
2018-02-02 09:17:13 AM  
BMI is usually accurate. There are exceptions, but unless you are an athlete/bodybuilder, it's probably accurate or close to it.

BMI can also say you are "normal" weight when you are actually overweight (based on bodyfat percentage). You can have very little muscle mass, a ton of fat, and still show up as normal in BMI yet still be overweight.

It's really amazing how everyone on the internet has so much muscle mass that BMI shouldn't apply to them
 
2018-02-02 10:03:32 AM  

John Buck 41: It's a good starting point. Not a be-all, end-all but still.


Similar to my view on CICO. Yes there are more nuances but as a back of the envelope first order measurement it's good.
 
2018-02-02 10:10:25 AM  
My health provider is using BMI as a scam.

I went to a Dr to get an antibiotic for a sinus infection last December. I checked my Medicare statement when it came and it was billed $150.00 for a BMI consult from a Dr I never saw.

/ this isn't the 1st time I had to straighten some shait out
// you know other people aren't checking their billing
/// no wonder US healthcare is a mess
 
2018-02-02 10:30:16 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: What kills me is how many bodybuilders there are online who are completely misrepresented by their BMI.

God knows that if I let me muscles atrophy 30lbs I could be at what is supposedly a "healthy" BMI. Far be it from me to question science, but I'm going to just assume that maybe I know more about my body than a BMI table on WebMD does.


When I was in the reserves there was an amature power lifter in my unit. He was one of the fittest guys I've ever met but the medical people, who relied exclusively on BMI, were always on him to lose weight.
 
2018-02-02 11:27:42 AM  

Fano: John Buck 41: It's a good starting point. Not a be-all, end-all but still.

Similar to my view on CICO. Yes there are more nuances but as a back of the envelope first order measurement it's good.


Just look at someone when they're naked. If their BMI is way up there, and they look obese...they're obese.
 
2018-02-02 11:35:16 AM  
It does say something about risk factors but just ignore them because that's just the evil libruls/millenials/haters/terrorists talking.
 
2018-02-02 12:59:04 PM  
No shiat.  It might indicate that there are obvious follow-up questions, but the BMI by itself is in most cases meaningless for most individuals.  Anywhere between "you died of starvation a month ago" and "you might be a rhinocerous" the number needs so much surrounding context that once you have the context you don't need the number anymore, so it serves no purpose.

It has some derivative use when looking at or comparing populations (where individual variances are averaged out), which is where it CAME FROM but for individuals it serves no purpose except for the lazy.  The RELEVANT question is what is your body fat %? And you can only get that answer by either fat-fold pinch testing (not exact but not bad), full-body submersion water displacement measuring, or some new electronic scanning methods.  So if your doc is preaching to you about BMI without doing even something as simple as a fat-fold test, then you know you are dealing with a lazy uneducated farkwad.
 
2018-02-02 01:06:31 PM  

cefm: lazy uneducated farkwad


That's the name of my POTUS cover band.
 
2018-02-02 01:47:45 PM  
Let's see. If I'm an average-height woman (5'4"), the upper limit of "normal" is 140 lbs. That's pretty chunky. On the other hand, as a 5'10" man, the upper limit is 167 lbs. Hmmm. Six inches taller, but only 27 pounds more? Seems odd.

IIRC, I was around 180 lbs. when I was young and in decent shape. That sounds a lot more reasonable.
 
2018-02-02 03:12:28 PM  
This reminds me of some personal ads back when I used to peruse them (late '90s to '01). 'Weight commensurate with height'.

Yeah, gimme the #s. I'll make that call.
 
2018-02-02 03:13:49 PM  

bingethinker: Let's see. If I'm an average-height woman (5'4"), the upper limit of "normal" is 140 lbs. That's pretty chunky. On the other hand, as a 5'10" man, the upper limit is 167 lbs. Hmmm. Six inches taller, but only 27 pounds more? Seems odd.

IIRC, I was around 180 lbs. when I was young and in decent shape. That sounds a lot more reasonable.


Evidently scientists like a little cushion for the pushin
 
2018-02-02 04:40:20 PM  

bingethinker: Let's see. If I'm an average-height woman (5'4"), the upper limit of "normal" is 140 lbs. That's pretty chunky. On the other hand, as a 5'10" man, the upper limit is 167 lbs. Hmmm. Six inches taller, but only 27 pounds more? Seems odd.

IIRC, I was around 180 lbs. when I was young and in decent shape. That sounds a lot more reasonable.


I'm 5'10 and I would look like a holocaust victim at 167. If I were in good shape I'd hover around 200. There are BMI adjustments for large frames that use the diameter of certain joints, I should be two categories beyond "large" based on that. I'm a surviving Neanderthal.
 
2018-02-02 04:43:17 PM  

foo monkey: Can the mods PLEASE not green-light submissions from President Trump?


We are done here!
 
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