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(Wikia)   I'm starting another Mat Cauthon only read through of Wheel of Time. Are there any series you only re-read for certain plot lines?   ( wot.wikia.com) divider line
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2018-01-22 11:35:10 AM  
For most of the series Rand is insufferable.

I skip the Frodo/Sam portions of Lord of the Rings
 
2018-01-22 11:54:00 AM  
Mat is definitely the best main character. I barely made it through the Perrin and Faile parts on the first read through. Haven't read them since.
 
2018-01-22 11:58:03 AM  
The Eye of the World
By Robert Jordan
Ultra-Condensed by David J. Parker and Samuel Stoddard

Rand al'Thor
Tam is my father.
(Nothing happens. Then, nothing happens. Then, unexpectedly, nothing happens. Everything is FRAUGHT with PORTENT.)

Moiraine
Everybody come with me.
Everybody
No. Well, ok.
(They travel a LOT. Something happens that isn't explained. Something happens that doesn't make sense. Something happens.)

Rand al'Thor
Tam is my father.


THE (predictable, cliched, dumb) END

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2018-01-22 12:00:56 PM  

RJReves: The Eye of the World
By Robert Jordan
Ultra-Condensed by David J. Parker and Samuel Stoddard

Rand al'Thor
Tam is my father.
(Nothing happens. Then, nothing happens. Then, unexpectedly, nothing happens. Everything is FRAUGHT with PORTENT.)

Moiraine
Everybody come with me.
Everybody
No. Well, ok.
(They travel a LOT. Something happens that isn't explained. Something happens that doesn't make sense. Something happens.)

Rand al'Thor
Tam is my father.


THE (predictable, cliched, dumb) END

Fans
Yah! Wah hah! This is the greatest book ever! Whoo hoo! This is the greatest series ever! Whoopie! Yee haw!

Back to the Book-A-Minute SF/F home page.


The Great Hunt
By Robert Jordan
Ultra-Condensed by David J. Parker and Samuel Stoddard

Rand al'Thor
I want to do something. But doing this something is probably what the Aes Sedai want me to do, so I will do something else. But doing that something else may be what they want me to do, because they think I think they want me to do the first thing, so I'll decide to do this other thing instead. So I'll just do the first thing, since I want to do it anyway. Screw them.
(Repeat seven hundred times.)


THE END
 
2018-01-22 12:01:45 PM  

RJReves: RJReves: The Eye of the World
By Robert Jordan
Ultra-Condensed by David J. Parker and Samuel Stoddard

Rand al'Thor
Tam is my father.
(Nothing happens. Then, nothing happens. Then, unexpectedly, nothing happens. Everything is FRAUGHT with PORTENT.)

Moiraine
Everybody come with me.
Everybody
No. Well, ok.
(They travel a LOT. Something happens that isn't explained. Something happens that doesn't make sense. Something happens.)

Rand al'Thor
Tam is my father.


THE (predictable, cliched, dumb) END

Fans
Yah! Wah hah! This is the greatest book ever! Whoo hoo! This is the greatest series ever! Whoopie! Yee haw!

Back to the Book-A-Minute SF/F home page.

The Great Hunt
By Robert Jordan
Ultra-Condensed by David J. Parker and Samuel Stoddard

Rand al'Thor
I want to do something. But doing this something is probably what the Aes Sedai want me to do, so I will do something else. But doing that something else may be what they want me to do, because they think I think they want me to do the first thing, so I'll decide to do this other thing instead. So I'll just do the first thing, since I want to do it anyway. Screw them.
(Repeat seven hundred times.)


THE END


The Dragon Reborn
By Robert Jordan
Ultra-Condensed by David J. Parker and Samuel Stoddard

Rand al'Thor
Being the Dragon Reborn stinks. I'm out of here.
(Moiraine and the gang CHASE him. But even though they are on HORSES, and he is WALKING, they never CATCH UP. This is supposed to be MYSTERIOUS but is really just a plot CONVENIENCE for Robert JORDAN.)

Perrin
I hate wolves.
(Mat and others show up out of NOWHERE. This is supposed to be MYSTERIOUS but is really just a plot CONVENIENCE for Robert JORDAN.)

Rand al'Thor
I am the Dragon Reborn. (kills the EVIL SUPREME BAD GUY)
Robert Jordan
Fooled you! That wasn't really the EVIL SUPREME BAD GUY! Now I can write forty more books!


THE END
 
2018-01-22 12:02:38 PM  

RJReves: RJReves: RJReves: The Eye of the World
By Robert Jordan
Ultra-Condensed by David J. Parker and Samuel Stoddard

Rand al'Thor
Tam is my father.
(Nothing happens. Then, nothing happens. Then, unexpectedly, nothing happens. Everything is FRAUGHT with PORTENT.)

Moiraine
Everybody come with me.
Everybody
No. Well, ok.
(They travel a LOT. Something happens that isn't explained. Something happens that doesn't make sense. Something happens.)

Rand al'Thor
Tam is my father.


THE (predictable, cliched, dumb) END

Fans
Yah! Wah hah! This is the greatest book ever! Whoo hoo! This is the greatest series ever! Whoopie! Yee haw!

Back to the Book-A-Minute SF/F home page.

The Great Hunt
By Robert Jordan
Ultra-Condensed by David J. Parker and Samuel Stoddard

Rand al'Thor
I want to do something. But doing this something is probably what the Aes Sedai want me to do, so I will do something else. But doing that something else may be what they want me to do, because they think I think they want me to do the first thing, so I'll decide to do this other thing instead. So I'll just do the first thing, since I want to do it anyway. Screw them.
(Repeat seven hundred times.)


THE END

The Dragon Reborn
By Robert Jordan
Ultra-Condensed by David J. Parker and Samuel Stoddard

Rand al'Thor
Being the Dragon Reborn stinks. I'm out of here.
(Moiraine and the gang CHASE him. But even though they are on HORSES, and he is WALKING, they never CATCH UP. This is supposed to be MYSTERIOUS but is really just a plot CONVENIENCE for Robert JORDAN.)

Perrin
I hate wolves.
(Mat and others show up out of NOWHERE. This is supposed to be MYSTERIOUS but is really just a plot CONVENIENCE for Robert JORDAN.)

Rand al'Thor
I am the Dragon Reborn. (kills the EVIL SUPREME BAD GUY)
Robert Jordan
Fooled you! That wasn't really the EVIL SUPREME BAD GUY! Now I can write forty more books!


THE END


The Shadow Rising
By Robert Jordan
Ultra-Condensed by John Klein

(Everybody HATES Rand, so he BEATS them until they OBEY.)

Rand
I have conquered all sorts of stuff, because I rule.
(Gibbers to self. Five hundred pages pass.)


THE END
 
2018-01-22 12:04:29 PM  
This reminds me that I need to finish my read-through of the series, I've decided to finish book 5 and read summaries, then start again with the Sanderson books that clean up the story.

The overall storyline and world building are great but he inflated the story too much and we got a 14 books series.
 
2018-01-22 12:06:05 PM  

RJReves: RJReves: RJReves: RJReves: The Eye of the World
By Robert Jordan
Ultra-Condensed by David J. Parker and Samuel Stoddard

Rand al'Thor
Tam is my father.
(Nothing happens. Then, nothing happens. Then, unexpectedly, nothing happens. Everything is FRAUGHT with PORTENT.)

Moiraine
Everybody come with me.
Everybody
No. Well, ok.
(They travel a LOT. Something happens that isn't explained. Something happens that doesn't make sense. Something happens.)

Rand al'Thor
Tam is my father.


THE (predictable, cliched, dumb) END

Fans
Yah! Wah hah! This is the greatest book ever! Whoo hoo! This is the greatest series ever! Whoopie! Yee haw!

Back to the Book-A-Minute SF/F home page.

The Great Hunt
By Robert Jordan
Ultra-Condensed by David J. Parker and Samuel Stoddard

Rand al'Thor
I want to do something. But doing this something is probably what the Aes Sedai want me to do, so I will do something else. But doing that something else may be what they want me to do, because they think I think they want me to do the first thing, so I'll decide to do this other thing instead. So I'll just do the first thing, since I want to do it anyway. Screw them.
(Repeat seven hundred times.)


THE END

The Dragon Reborn
By Robert Jordan
Ultra-Condensed by David J. Parker and Samuel Stoddard

Rand al'Thor
Being the Dragon Reborn stinks. I'm out of here.
(Moiraine and the gang CHASE him. But even though they are on HORSES, and he is WALKING, they never CATCH UP. This is supposed to be MYSTERIOUS but is really just a plot CONVENIENCE for Robert JORDAN.)

Perrin
I hate wolves.
(Mat and others show up out of NOWHERE. This is supposed to be MYSTERIOUS but is really just a plot CONVENIENCE for Robert JORDAN.)

Rand al'Thor
I am the Dragon Reborn. (kills the EVIL SUPREME BAD GUY)
Robert Jordan
Fooled you! That wasn't really the EVIL SUPREME BAD GUY! Now I can write forty more books!


THE END

The Shadow Rising
By Robert Jordan
Ultra-Condensed by John Klein

(Everybody HATES Rand, so he BEATS them until they OBEY.)

Rand
I have conquered all sorts of stuff, because I rule.
(Gibbers to self. Five hundred pages pass.)


THE END


Aaasnd I lost interest. Both in the series, and in my copypasta extravaganza.
 
2018-01-22 12:13:29 PM  
I re-read Game of Thrones, but only the Tyrion and Stark chapters.
 
2018-01-22 12:22:48 PM  
If it wasn't for Faile, Perrin would be the best characters in the series.  He actually grows and learns as the story progresses.  Mat irritates me, I can't place why.
 
2018-01-22 12:28:40 PM  
There is  Kvothe joke somewhere near here. Let me see.

I only read the first two days worth of the Kingkiller Chronicle.

/effff yoouuu Rothfuss!
 
2018-01-22 12:29:21 PM  

DarkLancelot: If it wasn't for Faile, Perrin would be the best characters in the series.  He actually grows and learns as the story progresses.  Mat irritates me, I can't place why.


Because he seems stuck at the mental level of a teen boy throughout the series.
 
2018-01-22 12:37:17 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: I re-read Game of Thrones, but only the Tyrion, Brienne, and Stark chapters.


FTFM
 
2018-01-22 12:49:38 PM  
To answer the question in in the headline. No. In a good book series, the characters are intertwined too much to follow one while excluding the rest.
 
2018-01-22 01:11:07 PM  
I just noticed that it's a vagina.

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2018-01-22 01:27:12 PM  

RJReves: RJReves: RJReves: RJReves: RJReves: The Eye of the World
By Robert Jordan
Ultra-Condensed by David J. Parker and Samuel Stoddard

Rand al'Thor
Tam is my father.
(Nothing happens. Then, nothing happens. Then, unexpectedly, nothing happens. Everything is FRAUGHT with PORTENT.)

Moiraine
Everybody come with me.
Everybody
No. Well, ok.
(They travel a LOT. Something happens that isn't explained. Something happens that doesn't make sense. Something happens.)

Rand al'Thor
Tam is my father.


THE (predictable, cliched, dumb) END

Fans
Yah! Wah hah! This is the greatest book ever! Whoo hoo! This is the greatest series ever! Whoopie! Yee haw!

Back to the Book-A-Minute SF/F home page.

The Great Hunt
By Robert Jordan
Ultra-Condensed by David J. Parker and Samuel Stoddard

Rand al'Thor
I want to do something. But doing this something is probably what the Aes Sedai want me to do, so I will do something else. But doing that something else may be what they want me to do, because they think I think they want me to do the first thing, so I'll decide to do this other thing instead. So I'll just do the first thing, since I want to do it anyway. Screw them.
(Repeat seven hundred times.)


THE END

The Dragon Reborn
By Robert Jordan
Ultra-Condensed by David J. Parker and Samuel Stoddard

Rand al'Thor
Being the Dragon Reborn stinks. I'm out of here.
(Moiraine and the gang CHASE him. But even though they are on HORSES, and he is WALKING, they never CATCH UP. This is supposed to be MYSTERIOUS but is really just a plot CONVENIENCE for Robert JORDAN.)

Perrin
I hate wolves.
(Mat and others show up out of NOWHERE. This is supposed to be MYSTERIOUS but is really just a plot CONVENIENCE for Robert JORDAN.)

Rand al'Thor
I am the Dragon Reborn. (kills the EVIL SUPREME BAD GUY)
Robert Jordan
Fooled you! That wasn't really the EVIL SUPREME BAD GUY! Now I can write forty more books!


THE END

The Shadow Rising
By Robert Jordan
Ultra-Condensed by John Klein

(Everybody HATES Rand, so he BEATS the ...


*yanks braid*
 
2018-01-22 01:31:52 PM  

akula: RJReves: RJReves: RJReves: RJReves: RJReves: The Eye of the World
By Robert Jordan
Ultra-Condensed by David J. Parker and Samuel Stoddard

Rand al'Thor
Tam is my father.
(Nothing happens. Then, nothing happens. Then, unexpectedly, nothing happens. Everything is FRAUGHT with PORTENT.)

Moiraine
Everybody come with me.
Everybody
No. Well, ok.
(They travel a LOT. Something happens that isn't explained. Something happens that doesn't make sense. Something happens.)

Rand al'Thor
Tam is my father.


THE (predictable, cliched, dumb) END

Fans
Yah! Wah hah! This is the greatest book ever! Whoo hoo! This is the greatest series ever! Whoopie! Yee haw!

Back to the Book-A-Minute SF/F home page.

The Great Hunt
By Robert Jordan
Ultra-Condensed by David J. Parker and Samuel Stoddard

Rand al'Thor
I want to do something. But doing this something is probably what the Aes Sedai want me to do, so I will do something else. But doing that something else may be what they want me to do, because they think I think they want me to do the first thing, so I'll decide to do this other thing instead. So I'll just do the first thing, since I want to do it anyway. Screw them.
(Repeat seven hundred times.)


THE END

The Dragon Reborn
By Robert Jordan
Ultra-Condensed by David J. Parker and Samuel Stoddard

Rand al'Thor
Being the Dragon Reborn stinks. I'm out of here.
(Moiraine and the gang CHASE him. But even though they are on HORSES, and he is WALKING, they never CATCH UP. This is supposed to be MYSTERIOUS but is really just a plot CONVENIENCE for Robert JORDAN.)

Perrin
I hate wolves.
(Mat and others show up out of NOWHERE. This is supposed to be MYSTERIOUS but is really just a plot CONVENIENCE for Robert JORDAN.)

Rand al'Thor
I am the Dragon Reborn. (kills the EVIL SUPREME BAD GUY)
Robert Jordan
Fooled you! That wasn't really the EVIL SUPREME BAD GUY! Now I can write forty more books!


THE END

The Shadow Rising
By Robert Jordan
Ultra-Condensed by John Klein

(Everybody HATES Rand, so he BEATS the ...

*yanks braid*


How did you know.....
 
2018-01-22 02:09:01 PM  

shortymac: This reminds me that I need to finish my read-through of the series, I've decided to finish book 5 and read summaries, then start again with the Sanderson books that clean up the story.

The overall storyline and world building are great but he inflated the story too much and we got a 14 books series.


I got a trial membership to Audible.com, and downloaded each book to have on in the background while I drove to work.  The 'half-attention' of listening while doing something else ended up being perfect for the long stretches of...uh...character development.
 
2018-01-22 02:21:18 PM  
I started reading the series in high school. By the time the final book was published, years after the author's own existence failure, I'd re read certain plot lines (usually Mat and Perrin) too many times. I read the final book once, and was done with the series for good.

In the years since, I've yet to feel even the slightest interest in going back to it. In retrospect, there was a lot of interesting bits, but the whole of the thing wasn't all that great, and the ending was as unsatisfying as one could possibly imagine. (I don't mean in the aspect of which characters live or die or whatever so much as the almost ridiculously short epilogue after over a dozen books in the series.)
 
2018-01-22 02:26:45 PM  
asquian:
In retrospect, there was a lot of interesting bits, but the whole of the thing wasn't all that great, and the ending was as unsatisfying as one could possibly imagine. (I don't mean in the aspect of which characters live or die or whatever so much as the almost ridiculously short epilogue after over a dozen books in the series.)

I don't disagree. The end came incredibly quickly- they build up the Last Battle over book after book, and finally the whole thing comes to an end in what feels like a lazy manner. They spend all that time with the three young women making a trip out west, and the whole thing gets tied up that fast?

The whole story arc isn't bad, but it was in dire need of some serious editing and a new ending (even if they stick with the bones of it, it needs more work). The entire series could be condensed by about half without losing anything.
 
2018-01-22 04:58:16 PM  
The series seemed too much like a vehicle for Jordan to describe clothes - it seemed for pages and pages little else happened.
 
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