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2018-01-21 11:01:23 AM  
Thank Odin for that.

As an aside, TFA rips on Medusa's bad cgi hair.  To be honest, as it was shorn in the first episode it was the least objectionable thing about the show.
 
2018-01-21 11:15:00 AM  
Good.

Next steps: Find a way to get Kevin Feige to announce that the show has been expunged from MCU canon.
 
2018-01-21 11:20:13 AM  

NeedlesslyCanadian: Good.

Next steps: Find a way to get Kevin Feige to announce that the show has been expunged from MCU canon.


With a cannon.

Into the sun.
 
2018-01-21 11:25:04 AM  
A show that failtastic shouldn't be quietly and gently smothered with a pillow.
 
2018-01-21 11:27:01 AM  

BizarreMan: Thank Odin for that.

As an aside, TFA rips on Medusa's bad cgi hair.  To be honest, as it was shorn in the first episode it was the least objectionable thing about the show.


Wonder if they did that because of focus groups, or because ABC was too cheap?

In any case, Inhumans are unnecessary now that Disney has the X-Men. AoS should be going tits-up soon, as well.
 
2018-01-21 11:49:18 AM  
sorry, stupid Moonies. no one is buying your flowers anymore.
 
2018-01-21 11:51:48 AM  

BizarreMan: Thank Odin for that.

As an aside, TFA rips on Medusa's bad cgi hair.  To be honest, as it was shorn in the first episode it was the least objectionable thing about the show.


I don't think it was as bad as some people do, but it certainly wasn't good.  I'd have liked to have seen a second season with new writers and a new showrunner though.  There was potential there, it just wasn't well executed in the first season.

On the bright side this has been one of the best seasons of AoS so far, so hopefully it's strong enough for them to get a renewal.
 
2018-01-21 11:59:48 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: BizarreMan: Thank Odin for that.

As an aside, TFA rips on Medusa's bad cgi hair.  To be honest, as it was shorn in the first episode it was the least objectionable thing about the show.

I don't think it was as bad as some people do, but it certainly wasn't good.  I'd have liked to have seen a second season with new writers and a new showrunner though.  There was potential there, it just wasn't well executed in the first season.

On the bright side this has been one of the best seasons of AoS so far, so hopefully it's strong enough for them to get a renewal.


Supposedly renewal is looking good, despite the buzz that ABC had wanted to kill it last year. I'm certainly happy to hear this-I think the show has gotten better every year.
 
2018-01-21 02:11:10 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: I don't think it was as bad as some people do, but it certainly wasn't good.


The effects were forgivable.  The poor writing and plotting were what killed it.  Good writing fixes a lot of ills.
 
2018-01-21 02:16:24 PM  

Nefarious: TuteTibiImperes: I don't think it was as bad as some people do, but it certainly wasn't good.

The effects were forgivable.  The poor writing and plotting were what killed it.  Good writing fixes a lot of ills.


This.  Bad CGI is one thing but bad writing/plot is a whole 'nother thing....

Crystal was very attractive so that's about the only thing the show had going for it.

/self reported
 
2018-01-21 02:23:56 PM  
But I've grown to know and love all those characters...
 
2018-01-21 02:25:29 PM  

Nefarious: TuteTibiImperes: I don't think it was as bad as some people do, but it certainly wasn't good.

The effects were forgivable.  The poor writing and plotting were what killed it.  Good writing fixes a lot of ills.


Can't fix the acting though, jesus farking christ.
 
2018-01-21 02:29:45 PM  

NeedlesslyCanadian: Supposedly renewal is looking good, despite the buzz that ABC had wanted to kill it last year. I'm certainly happy to hear this-I think the show has gotten better every year.


I think if Inhumans had been a big success, AoS would have been gone.  I expect that Disney is going to insist on there always been a Marvel show on ABC.  It's just a matter of finding a suitable replacement.  It's a damn shame Agent Carter got ended.  Wish they would at least do an AoS arc to finish up the plot from it.

BizarreMan: As an aside, TFA rips on Medusa's bad cgi hair.  To be honest, as it was shorn in the first episode it was the least objectionable thing about the show.


They use a superhero character and immediately remove what makes her super.  Brilliant.
 
2018-01-21 02:30:29 PM  

Nefarious: TuteTibiImperes: I don't think it was as bad as some people do, but it certainly wasn't good.

The effects were forgivable.  The poor writing and plotting were what killed it.  Good writing fixes a lot of ills.


I thought the effects were surprisingly awful for this day 'n' age. That two seconds of Medusa's hair in action looked like it was done on an Amiga.
 
2018-01-21 02:32:34 PM  

BizarreMan: NeedlesslyCanadian: Good.

Next steps: Find a way to get Kevin Feige to announce that the show has been expunged from MCU canon.

With a cannon.

Into the sun.


not expunged, but largely forgotten, especially now that Marvel has the mutants back in the fold
 
2018-01-21 02:34:16 PM  

NeoCortex42: NeedlesslyCanadian: Supposedly renewal is looking good, despite the buzz that ABC had wanted to kill it last year. I'm certainly happy to hear this-I think the show has gotten better every year.

I think if Inhumans had been a big success, AoS would have been gone.  I expect that Disney is going to insist on there always been a Marvel show on ABC.  It's just a matter of finding a suitable replacement.  It's a damn shame Agent Carter got ended.  Wish they would at least do an AoS arc to finish up the plot from it.


With Peggy actually dead in-universe now, I'm not sure how they'd swing it. But I did really enjoy that they worked her into the backstory that drive the first half of SHIELD Season 2. I'd be very happy with more of that, maybe some Cold War-era SHIELD antics that we haven't heard about yet.
 
2018-01-21 02:36:30 PM  

NeoCortex42: NeedlesslyCanadian: Supposedly renewal is looking good, despite the buzz that ABC had wanted to kill it last year. I'm certainly happy to hear this-I think the show has gotten better every year.

I think if Inhumans had been a big success, AoS would have been gone.  I expect that Disney is going to insist on there always been a Marvel show on ABC.  It's just a matter of finding a suitable replacement.  It's a damn shame Agent Carter got ended.  Wish they would at least do an AoS arc to finish up the plot from it.

BizarreMan: As an aside, TFA rips on Medusa's bad cgi hair.  To be honest, as it was shorn in the first episode it was the least objectionable thing about the show.

They use a superhero character and immediately remove what makes her super.  Brilliant.


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2018-01-21 02:51:23 PM  

NeedlesslyCanadian: Good.

Next steps: Find a way to get Kevin Feige to announce that the show has been expunged from MCU canon.


They've already done that, hard. Feige will bend over backwards to ignore the TV stuff, even when it takes more effort and makes less sense (looking at you, Age of Ultron). I mean, it's not as bad as banishing the best villain in the show's history b/c of the terrible, terrible movie universe, but it's still a big fat elephant in the room.

/Agent Carter was great
 
2018-01-21 03:01:54 PM  
I volunteer to adopt Lockjaw!
 
2018-01-21 03:06:03 PM  

Arachnophobe: I volunteer to adopt Lockjaw!


Getting to Crystal via the dog ... smart!
 
2018-01-21 03:16:18 PM  

NeedlesslyCanadian: TuteTibiImperes: BizarreMan: Thank Odin for that.

As an aside, TFA rips on Medusa's bad cgi hair.  To be honest, as it was shorn in the first episode it was the least objectionable thing about the show.

I don't think it was as bad as some people do, but it certainly wasn't good.  I'd have liked to have seen a second season with new writers and a new showrunner though.  There was potential there, it just wasn't well executed in the first season.

On the bright side this has been one of the best seasons of AoS so far, so hopefully it's strong enough for them to get a renewal.

Supposedly renewal is looking good, despite the buzz that ABC had wanted to kill it last year. I'm certainly happy to hear this-I think the show has gotten better every year.


Six seasons and a movie cameo!
 
2018-01-21 03:18:44 PM  
the CGI was offputting and their origin story is just a worse version of the xmen.
 
2018-01-21 03:19:32 PM  

NeedlesslyCanadian: NeoCortex42: NeedlesslyCanadian: Supposedly renewal is looking good, despite the buzz that ABC had wanted to kill it last year. I'm certainly happy to hear this-I think the show has gotten better every year.

I think if Inhumans had been a big success, AoS would have been gone.  I expect that Disney is going to insist on there always been a Marvel show on ABC.  It's just a matter of finding a suitable replacement.  It's a damn shame Agent Carter got ended.  Wish they would at least do an AoS arc to finish up the plot from it.

With Peggy actually dead in-universe now, I'm not sure how they'd swing it. But I did really enjoy that they worked her into the backstory that drive the first half of SHIELD Season 2. I'd be very happy with more of that, maybe some Cold War-era SHIELD antics that we haven't heard about yet.


The nice thing is that since Peggy's story founding SHIELD takes place over several decades, they can go back and do more Agent Carter in a decade and she won't age out of the role.
 
2018-01-21 03:23:28 PM  
That's like The Avengers or The X-Men or some shiat, right? How do you fark that up?

Netflix makes the best Marvel shiat.
 
2018-01-21 03:41:38 PM  

NeedlesslyCanadian: TuteTibiImperes: BizarreMan: Thank Odin for that.

As an aside, TFA rips on Medusa's bad cgi hair.  To be honest, as it was shorn in the first episode it was the least objectionable thing about the show.

I don't think it was as bad as some people do, but it certainly wasn't good.  I'd have liked to have seen a second season with new writers and a new showrunner though.  There was potential there, it just wasn't well executed in the first season.

On the bright side this has been one of the best seasons of AoS so far, so hopefully it's strong enough for them to get a renewal.

Supposedly renewal is looking good, despite the buzz that ABC had wanted to kill it last year. I'm certainly happy to hear this-I think the show has gotten better every year.


This season is great but i still have fears that somehow they are going to squeeze in Ward.  Travel too far back in time?
 
2018-01-21 03:51:18 PM  
Who came up with Inhumans? Was it Stan Lee? Surely not.

Anyway, to start off a show where the main 'heroes' are kinda dicks, well, it was a dumb move and I don't think it had recovered, despite the narrative beginning to show a more redemptive route towards the end and a plotline for Season 2.

But for the most part, the show was stupid. You have a Sinead Haircutted Ginger Woman who used to have prehensile hair and a personality of a carrot. A male lead who utters no words, but does 'sign language' that looks more those of the current spate of fake signers on the news than anything official. A man with the bottom half of a goat. Or something. A large teleporting dog who doesn't do much except of a plot device for people to move to different locations. Fine but lazy thinking. Best guys in this stupidverse is Ken Leung Mike Tyson Face Tats guy, who actually had a character arc before his lover ups and leaves him for no reason, and he returns to being a dweeb. And then that Welsh guy from Game of Thrones with the weird shouty accent. He's actually the hero. And he should have been the hero in the 6 episode Season 2 where he hunts the Annoying Inhumans and kills them all and bringing the show to a merciful end.
 
2018-01-21 03:56:43 PM  

Arachnophobe: I volunteer to adopt Lockjaw!


Dibs on the princess!
 
2018-01-21 03:57:18 PM  

Noah_Tall: NeedlesslyCanadian: TuteTibiImperes: BizarreMan: Thank Odin for that.

As an aside, TFA rips on Medusa's bad cgi hair.  To be honest, as it was shorn in the first episode it was the least objectionable thing about the show.

I don't think it was as bad as some people do, but it certainly wasn't good.  I'd have liked to have seen a second season with new writers and a new showrunner though.  There was potential there, it just wasn't well executed in the first season.

On the bright side this has been one of the best seasons of AoS so far, so hopefully it's strong enough for them to get a renewal.

Supposedly renewal is looking good, despite the buzz that ABC had wanted to kill it last year. I'm certainly happy to hear this-I think the show has gotten better every year.

This season is great but i still have fears that somehow they are going to squeeze in Ward.  Travel too far back in time?


I always liked Ward, though. But you can tell they've run out of things to do with him.
 
2018-01-21 03:58:13 PM  

Mad_Radhu: NeedlesslyCanadian: NeoCortex42: NeedlesslyCanadian: Supposedly renewal is looking good, despite the buzz that ABC had wanted to kill it last year. I'm certainly happy to hear this-I think the show has gotten better every year.

I think if Inhumans had been a big success, AoS would have been gone.  I expect that Disney is going to insist on there always been a Marvel show on ABC.  It's just a matter of finding a suitable replacement.  It's a damn shame Agent Carter got ended.  Wish they would at least do an AoS arc to finish up the plot from it.

With Peggy actually dead in-universe now, I'm not sure how they'd swing it. But I did really enjoy that they worked her into the backstory that drive the first half of SHIELD Season 2. I'd be very happy with more of that, maybe some Cold War-era SHIELD antics that we haven't heard about yet.

The nice thing is that since Peggy's story founding SHIELD takes place over several decades, they can go back and do more Agent Carter in a decade and she won't age out of the role.


Right, I was thinking the same thing. It's really great that they can dip back into her character at virtually any point now and it'll still work.
 
2018-01-21 04:00:17 PM  

Noah_Tall: NeedlesslyCanadian: TuteTibiImperes: BizarreMan: Thank Odin for that.

As an aside, TFA rips on Medusa's bad cgi hair.  To be honest, as it was shorn in the first episode it was the least objectionable thing about the show.

I don't think it was as bad as some people do, but it certainly wasn't good.  I'd have liked to have seen a second season with new writers and a new showrunner though.  There was potential there, it just wasn't well executed in the first season.

On the bright side this has been one of the best seasons of AoS so far, so hopefully it's strong enough for them to get a renewal.

Supposedly renewal is looking good, despite the buzz that ABC had wanted to kill it last year. I'm certainly happy to hear this-I think the show has gotten better every year.

This season is great but i still have fears that somehow they are going to squeeze in Ward.  Travel too far back in time?


I'd gotten pretty tired of him as Ward, but I thought they did a decent job of having the actor play another character with Hive. The Framework appearance was a little obvious, but it was nice that they reversed the role and had him be an undercover hero, versus the undercover villain he was in the real world.
 
2018-01-21 04:02:31 PM  

GungFu: Who came up with Inhumans? Was it Stan Lee? Surely not.


Lee and Kirby did, yeah. It's a shame--they're an interesting idea, and I was actually pretty excited by the possibilities of a movie way back when they announced that. I was even more pleased when the movie became a show, because 6-12 hours of story is better than 2, right? Boy, I could not have been more wrong.


...I probably should've just multi-quoted these last three replies.
 
2018-01-21 04:05:42 PM  
Time and reality stones cause Carter to live again
 
2018-01-21 04:05:49 PM  

Noah_Tall: NeedlesslyCanadian: TuteTibiImperes: BizarreMan: Thank Odin for that.

As an aside, TFA rips on Medusa's bad cgi hair.  To be honest, as it was shorn in the first episode it was the least objectionable thing about the show.

I don't think it was as bad as some people do, but it certainly wasn't good.  I'd have liked to have seen a second season with new writers and a new showrunner though.  There was potential there, it just wasn't well executed in the first season.

On the bright side this has been one of the best seasons of AoS so far, so hopefully it's strong enough for them to get a renewal.

Supposedly renewal is looking good, despite the buzz that ABC had wanted to kill it last year. I'm certainly happy to hear this-I think the show has gotten better every year.

This season is great but i still have fears that somehow they are going to squeeze in Ward.  Travel too far back in time?


Not getting into this season of AoS much, and I loved the previous ones. This one is like stretching limited material into a whole season rather than a few episodes. The one location gimmick is just cheap and nasty, and somewhat boring to watch. I think they made a mistake with this premise, and hope it wasn't due to budgetary cuts, as the show had been previously so fun adn intriguing in past seasons, as it had been with Fitz meeting up with Hunter on present day earth, and then it goes to crappy future spacejunk colony.
 
2018-01-21 04:07:35 PM  

NeedlesslyCanadian: GungFu: Who came up with Inhumans? Was it Stan Lee? Surely not.

Lee and Kirby did, yeah. It's a shame--they're an interesting idea, and I was actually pretty excited by the possibilities of a movie way back when they announced that. I was even more pleased when the movie became a show, because 6-12 hours of story is better than 2, right? Boy, I could not have been more wrong.


...I probably should've just multi-quoted these last three replies.


Multi-quoting on mobile is impossible unless you load up the full site, at which point the ads slaughter your browser.
 
2018-01-21 04:08:01 PM  
The entire thing about Inhumans was always (in the MCU) a stand-in for Mutants since Marvel couldn't use mutants anymore.

They took a relatively obscure different form of empowered human from the comics and used them as their Mutant stand-in.

Now after the Fox buyout, and with Marvel therefore getting mutant rights back, presumably we'll see Mutants appear in the MCU, and return to prominence in the comics too since they'd set up a plot to render mutants extinct (basically to spite Fox).
 
2018-01-21 04:08:06 PM  

GungFu: This one is like stretching limited material into a whole season


1st pod is 10 episodes... they'll be back in the present soonish.
 
2018-01-21 04:13:28 PM  

GungFu: Who came up with Inhumans? Was it Stan Lee? Surely not.


Kirby. Stan was still "writing" FF but also dealing with an avalanche of new characters.
 
2018-01-21 04:18:36 PM  
The Inhumans always sucked. In the old comics, on TV, in the new comics, they've always been "We're mutants, but different! PLEASE LIKE US!"
 
2018-01-21 04:25:55 PM  
Not enough show stretched out too long.
Filler parts of the story were tedious.
Making the guys who want to keep a caste system in place the heroes was a bit hard to get behind.
Did we need each character to discover on their own "OMG! Humans are just like us!"
Another show that someone should have ran by an 8 year old to make sure it made sense.
Yet, it was ok and I wouldn't have minded a 2nd season of them finding their place on Earth.

/didn't care. saw Lockjaw!
 
2018-01-21 05:00:13 PM  

Noah_Tall: NeedlesslyCanadian: TuteTibiImperes: BizarreMan: Thank Odin for that.

As an aside, TFA rips on Medusa's bad cgi hair.  To be honest, as it was shorn in the first episode it was the least objectionable thing about the show.

I don't think it was as bad as some people do, but it certainly wasn't good.  I'd have liked to have seen a second season with new writers and a new showrunner though.  There was potential there, it just wasn't well executed in the first season.

On the bright side this has been one of the best seasons of AoS so far, so hopefully it's strong enough for them to get a renewal.

Supposedly renewal is looking good, despite the buzz that ABC had wanted to kill it last year. I'm certainly happy to hear this-I think the show has gotten better every year.

This season is great but i still have fears that somehow they are going to squeeze in Ward.  Travel too far back in time?


Deek had a bit of the Framework running and we haven't gotten back to that yet.

It was my understanding Inhumans was rushed to air prematurely. Certainly seemed like Karnak had the only near-finished story and the whole season looked like the first dress rehearsal of a first draft.
 
2018-01-21 05:40:39 PM  

Trocadero: They've already done that, hard. Feige will bend over backwards to ignore the TV stuff, even when it takes more effort and makes less sense (looking at you, Age of Ultron).


Which is too bad. Mrs. Eagle and I rewatched the Winter Soldier episodes last night. They were done so damn well.

AoS has had some bright spots since going independent of the films (the Framework and this season are both very good), but it could have been so much better if it was working with the movies.
 
2018-01-21 05:44:00 PM  
It had potential but it always seemed like they wanted to tell a 3rd season story and have 1st season character development at the same time.  Uh-uh, pick one.
 
2018-01-21 07:06:46 PM  
I have a very large tolerance for mediocre entertainment; I watched 5 minutes of the pilot and turned it off.
 
2018-01-21 07:12:13 PM  
Watched the first ep. I like Serinda Swan, liked a few other things, but I didn't come back the next week. Just didn't hold me. Still hanging in with AoS, but not sure why. I guess I like those characters more.
 
2018-01-21 07:53:13 PM  

Skink Wrangler: Watched the first ep. I like Serinda Swan, liked a few other things, but I didn't come back the next week. Just didn't hold me. Still hanging in with AoS, but not sure why. I guess I like those characters more.


This season of AoS took a long time to grab me.   I was just watching out of inertia.

It's finally picked up where I'm not watching out of habit
 
2018-01-21 08:21:13 PM  

GungFu: Noah_Tall: NeedlesslyCanadian: TuteTibiImperes: BizarreMan: Thank Odin for that.

As an aside, TFA rips on Medusa's bad cgi hair.  To be honest, as it was shorn in the first episode it was the least objectionable thing about the show.

I don't think it was as bad as some people do, but it certainly wasn't good.  I'd have liked to have seen a second season with new writers and a new showrunner though.  There was potential there, it just wasn't well executed in the first season.

On the bright side this has been one of the best seasons of AoS so far, so hopefully it's strong enough for them to get a renewal.

Supposedly renewal is looking good, despite the buzz that ABC had wanted to kill it last year. I'm certainly happy to hear this-I think the show has gotten better every year.

This season is great but i still have fears that somehow they are going to squeeze in Ward.  Travel too far back in time?

Not getting into this season of AoS much, and I loved the previous ones. This one is like stretching limited material into a whole season rather than a few episodes. The one location gimmick is just cheap and nasty, and somewhat boring to watch. I think they made a mistake with this premise, and hope it wasn't due to budgetary cuts, as the show had been previously so fun adn intriguing in past seasons, as it had been with Fitz meeting up with Hunter on present day earth, and then it goes to crappy future spacejunk colony.


I suspect it will be like last season in that it is broken up into 2 interconnected half-season arcs in different locales (Ghost Rider-centric and AIDA/framework-centric). Presumably they will need to be back in present day to have the link in with Infinity War.
 
2018-01-21 09:23:02 PM  
I guess I'm an oddity in that I've enjoyed this season. Yes, it's due to budget cuts, but something about it feels very Marvel-y, so much Kree interactions, going into the future with a destroyed earth, etc feels more like it could be a comic book story. Like the Framework, it's like spending time in a 'What If' type story.

However I will add the ONLY good thing to come from Inhumans is that foolishly cutting out Bobby/Lance from AoS and then not doing a Bobby/Lance show gave the actress a lead on The Orville. She doesn't seem quite as confident trying to do campy acting but it's still a fun show.
 
2018-01-21 09:39:48 PM  

Dark Side Of The Spoon: I guess I'm an oddity in that I've enjoyed this season. Yes, it's due to budget cuts, but something about it feels very Marvel-y, so much Kree interactions, going into the future with a destroyed earth, etc feels more like it could be a comic book story. Like the Framework, it's like spending time in a 'What If' type story.

However I will add the ONLY good thing to come from Inhumans is that foolishly cutting out Bobby/Lance from AoS and then not doing a Bobby/Lance show gave the actress a lead on The Orville. She doesn't seem quite as confident trying to do campy acting but it's still a fun show.


Mockingbird was solid, but just didn't offer much to the ensemble. I think she was designed as Ward's replacement (in terms of combat ability), but wasn't needed as Daisy came into her own, Mac ended up being a lot tougher than originally intended, and the stories were less reliant on basic hand-to-hand fighting.

But Lance filled a role entirely on his own. It was nice to have him back for Fitz's sendoff, but it made me realize how much I miss him as a main cast member.
 
2018-01-21 09:49:06 PM  
I really thought the girl in the trailer would be our POV character, introduce into the weirdness of the Inhumans a little at a time.  Ah well.  Watching The Gifted at the same time just highlighted the lost potential.
 
2018-01-21 10:06:51 PM  

Slowdog: I really thought the girl in the trailer would be our POV character, introduce into the weirdness of the Inhumans a little at a time.  Ah well.  Watching The Gifted at the same time just highlighted the lost potential.


I've liked The Gifted more than I thought I would.  The problem with any mutant-based shows/movies is that they tend to always be allegories of racism/xenophobia.  I mean, given today's climate I suppose that's as relevant as ever, but I'd like to see an X-Men/mutant story that isn't based on 'the government/secret-science-canal wants to register/slaughter mutants, turn mutants into super soldiers, or otherwise use them as pawns as they see fit'.
 
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