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(The Washington Outsider)   The US Federal government is suffering from another bout of 'shutdown fever.' There is plenty of blame to go around, but the real problem is the politics and people of Washington   ( washingtonoutsider.org) divider line
    More: Misc, Donald Trump, President of the United States, fact shutdown threats, United States Congress, Republicans control government, President Donald Trump, Republican policy shifts, Obama Administration  
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2018-01-19 10:38:00 PM  
Inasmuch as we've elected absolute nincompoops, I suppose you could say that. And that we KEEP listening to a media that is heavily invested in one party over another, then yeah, I suppose that blaming "Washington" is as good as anything else...but that is just code switching from saying that we've elected some destructive asshats who really have no place anywhere near a functioning government...
 
2018-01-19 10:43:53 PM  
Blaming Democrats this time will work as well as when Trump blamed Democrats for not voting for the Healthcare "bill" failure.

In that it's nonsense and no serious thinking person will fall for it.
 
2018-01-19 11:03:17 PM  
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2018-01-19 11:22:36 PM  
I think we can all agree when you really look closely at the issue, that this is all the fault of the Democrats. Because they hate America or whatever.
 
2018-01-20 12:03:17 AM  
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I mean, shiat. The Hole had only to sign what was in front of him. Instead, he tried to ingratiate himself to the last person he spoke to, and that last person was Miller, and, well, here we are. Again. But even dumber than the shutdowns of 2013 and the near miss of 2011.

Shut Em Down (The Functionist Version)
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Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

Those of us who do remember the past are condemned to drink our way through it.

Sow the shiathole shutdown; reap the shiathole shiatstorm.

Shiat 'em down.
 
2018-01-20 12:14:44 AM  
He is a promoter who utilizes the expertise and ideas of others to accomplish things.

He's not even any good at THAT.
 
2018-01-20 01:21:08 AM  
And Turtle just objected to a move that would keep our troops paid. Why does Mitch hate America?
 
2018-01-20 01:55:41 AM  
GOP: [evil laughter] 'we have total control!  we can do whatever we want without consequences!' [cackles madly] [passes hateful/spiteful legislation]

also the GOP: 'we aren't in charge, its all the DEMOCRATS fault!  THEY run congress, not US!  we are innocent!  INNOCENT!'
 
2018-01-20 02:20:44 AM  
Nice blog post.
 
2018-01-20 02:35:52 AM  
Vague blaming of politicians and "special interests" with no insight whatsoever, followed by a donation link. Go f*ck yourself, submitter.
 
2018-01-20 02:37:58 AM  
It would be foolish to blame the president who stated that we need a "good" shutdown.
 
2018-01-20 02:38:49 AM  

danielem1: Blaming Democrats this time will work as well as when Trump blamed Democrats for not voting for the Healthcare "bill" failure.

In that it's nonsense and no serious thinking person will fall for it.


"Never the Democrats fault"

Got it.
 
2018-01-20 02:39:11 AM  
I bet Ted Cruz is soooooo jealous.
 
2018-01-20 02:40:49 AM  
The seed sowns by the tea party movement are bearing fruit. Granted they were giving a whole bunch of rabbit shiat fertilizer in the form of Trumpers, but still, what a miserable 2017 and worrisome start to 2018.
 
2018-01-20 02:42:44 AM  
Upside?  Sessions won't have the money to send his goons to take our legal weed.
 
2018-01-20 02:42:47 AM  

randomjsa: danielem1: Blaming Democrats this time will work as well as when Trump blamed Democrats for not voting for the Healthcare "bill" failure.

In that it's nonsense and no serious thinking person will fall for it.

"Never the Democrats fault"

Got it.


Shut the f*ck up, alt-using scumbag.
 
2018-01-20 02:42:48 AM  

fusillade762: And Turtle just objected to a move that would keep our troops paid. Why does Mitch hate America?


Because Yertle knows that this would give him even less negotiating leverage.

He needs to be able to bang on the "pay the troops" drum, because without it, he's got nothing.
 
2018-01-20 02:45:32 AM  
Before I RTFA, I'm going to mentally prepare for some BSAB mental gymnastics. You should always limber up first.

/reads article

Well, that's disappointing. There weren't really any gymnastics there. He basically just says "both sides are bad" and doesn't even bother with the whole justification bit.
 
2018-01-20 02:46:29 AM  

hubiestubert: Inasmuch as we've elected absolute nincompoops, I suppose you could say that. And that we KEEP listening to a media that is heavily invested in one party over another, then yeah, I suppose that blaming "Washington" is as good as anything else...but that is just code switching from saying that we've elected some destructive asshats who really have no place anywhere near a functioning government...


Well, currently, they are nowhere near a functioning government.
 
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2018-01-20 02:47:43 AM  
I used to think that an outsider's perspective was needed in government, but then I saw what happens when people with extremely strong opinions and little to no previous experience manage to get elected to federal office.

In short, they are so sure of all of their positions that they are unwilling to accept anything on any position they hold that isn't a complete success in their eyes. They want exactly what they want, only what they want, and are entirely unwilling to participate in the sausage-making that is required when one is attempting to govern more than three hundred million people with a whole host of perspectives, attitudes, and beliefs.

The "Freedom Caucus" needs to understand that without its own supermajority, it must be willing to yield ground in some areas in order to gain it in others. It's not like Democrats obstructed to prevent from reaching 60 votes, members of what in theory are the same party also objected and the whole thing got less than a simple majority. That's right, less than 50% of senators were in-favor despite having theoretical one-party domination of all of Congress.
 
2018-01-20 02:48:55 AM  
And that's why we elected an outsider to the presidency, which is going great.
 
2018-01-20 02:49:58 AM  

fusillade762: And Turtle just objected to a move that would keep our troops paid. Why does Mitch hate America?


Because unpaid troops are more likely to accept provincial Russian or Chinese citizenship when it's backed by a ten thousand Rubles or a hundred thousand yuan.  Far cheaper than an actual war.
 
2018-01-20 02:50:31 AM  
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2018-01-20 02:54:40 AM  
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2018-01-20 03:00:02 AM  
If this Democrat-caused government shutdown causes D2S to miss "His Party" tomorrow, there's gonna be a tantrum thrown, for sure.
 
2018-01-20 03:00:24 AM  
So I take it the US Federal Govt has now closed down?

No one seems to give a shiat that their government is now failing to pay its bills ....
 
2018-01-20 03:02:38 AM  

Langdon_777: So I take it the US Federal Govt has now closed down?

No one seems to give a shiat that their government is now failing to pay its bills ....


Who are these "No one's" you're referring to? Faux News propagandists? Because from everything I've seen today, plenty of people are pissed off to the maximum level.
 
2018-01-20 03:03:26 AM  

Le Purple Nurple: Upside?  Sessions won't have the money to send his goons to take our legal weed.


there goes Jeffy boys plans to ramp up action against California's legal cannabis industry.
 
2018-01-20 03:03:32 AM  
 
2018-01-20 03:03:58 AM  

Langdon_777: No one seems to give a shiat that their government is now failing to pay its bills ...


the GOP doesn't care.  everyone ELSE does tho.
 
2018-01-20 03:05:40 AM  
Is a shutdown bad for Democrats as well as Republicans?  Of course.  A shutdown is bad for everyone.

Do Democrats have to eventually take a stand to ensure that shiat like DACA gets dealt with?  Absolutely.  If it wasn't this spending bill, then it would have been some other must-pass bill.  Republicans will talk about dealing with Democratic priorities when doing so makes them look better, but they have no intention of actually taking action until they're forced to, and when Republicans ARE forced to they will claim that Democrats are playing politics with something important no matter which bill the showdown ends up being about.

So you know what?  Fark it.  If it's going to happen---and it IS going to happen--better sooner than later.
 
2018-01-20 03:05:57 AM  

Jumbled: If this Democrat-caused government shutdown causes D2S to miss "His Party" tomorrow, there's gonna be a tantrum thrown, for sure.


Pretty sure he collects 100k per guest regardless.
 
2018-01-20 03:07:02 AM  
If it weren't already obvious, I think we've clearly entered an era where 60 votes will be required for any legislation to pass ever again. So, any bill that doesn't have 60 votes coming into the Senate is pretty much DOA; despite the idiocy of many of their voters, the Republicans in office surely realise this truth. The only reason they push a bill like what came through this week was political grandstanding. Why bother governing when you can just point fingers?
 
2018-01-20 03:08:02 AM  

Scanty Em: Jumbled: If this Democrat-caused government shutdown causes D2S to miss "His Party" tomorrow, there's gonna be a tantrum thrown, for sure.

Pretty sure he collects 100k per guest regardless.


Per couple.. But you can also give him $250,000.00 so you can taste his foul odor all up-close and personal-like.
 
2018-01-20 03:09:36 AM  

Scanty Em: Jumbled: If this Democrat-caused government shutdown causes D2S to miss "His Party" tomorrow, there's gonna be a tantrum thrown, for sure.

Pretty sure he collects 100k per guest regardless.


I don't think the money is as important to trump as the ego stroking.  trump LOVES having people pay him a lot of money to tell him how wonderful he is, and how awesome he runs a business.  just giving him cash isn't as satisfying.  cash won't give him a blow job.  cash doesn't have a pussy he can grab.  cash won't sleep with him either.  Trump needs the emotional high he gets from making people tell them they love him.

THAT is what's going to make him so angry about missing his party.  he wanted the ego stroke just as much (if not more) than he wants the money.
 
2018-01-20 03:10:45 AM  
The real problem is that our democracy was founded on the notion that intelligent people could make logical and/or rhetorical arguments to explain the needs and desires of their constituents to other intelligent people and often get them to agree to a law that they may have initially opposed.

Nowadays, intelligent people in government are few and far between, nobody listens to logic, party comes first, and the constituencies are way too large and diverse for any reasonable number of representatives.
 
2018-01-20 03:12:01 AM  

Jumbled: Langdon_777: So I take it the US Federal Govt has now closed down?

No one seems to give a shiat that their government is now failing to pay its bills ....

Who are these "No one's" you're referring to? Faux News propagandists? Because from everything I've seen today, plenty of people are pissed off to the maximum level.


I meant no one in charge.
 
2018-01-20 03:14:03 AM  

lostcat: The real problem is that our democracy was founded on the notion that intelligent people could make logical and/or rhetorical arguments to explain the needs and desires of their constituents to other intelligent people and often get them to agree to a law that they may have initially opposed.

Nowadays, intelligent people in government are few and far between, nobody listens to logic, party comes first, and the constituencies are way too large and diverse for any reasonable number of representatives.


It was also founded on the notion that the most powerful people in the country had the tiniest sense of shame.
 
2018-01-20 03:14:11 AM  
It just occurred to me:
Maybe this Shutdown is just to deflect from the Stormy Daniels news.

I remember back in 1989 when the Saving & Loan scandal started turning up more and more people involved, or in the loop. One day I read in the newspaper that one of President Bush, Sr.'s sons was named as somehow involved. I said to myself, "Wow - I wonder what I'm going to read in tomorrow's paper." Tomorrow's paper suddenly had all these stories about some obscure dictator named Saddam Hussein, who was the worst Hitler that ever Hitlered, and there were no more stories about the S&L crisis.

The White House called it Operation Desert Stormy Daniels.
 
2018-01-20 03:16:43 AM  

lostcat: Nowadays, intelligent people in government are few and far between, nobody listens to logic, party comes first, and the constituencies are way too large and diverse for any reasonable number of representatives.


not to mention the fact that the president who told his porn star girlfriend that sharks terrify him to death is the one who has to navigate this country thru a shutdown directly caused by his actions. further complicating matters is the additional fact that trump is pathologically unable to take responsibility for any mistake he's ever done, and actually has no relevant experiences to help him do his job.
 
2018-01-20 03:18:31 AM  
The US elected a black president and the Republican Party lost its goddamned mind.

And now, this...
 
2018-01-20 03:26:32 AM  

Jumbled: Langdon_777: So I take it the US Federal Govt has now closed down?

No one seems to give a shiat that their government is now failing to pay its bills ....

Who are these "No one's" you're referring to? Faux News propagandists? Because from everything I've seen today, plenty of people are pissed off to the maximum level.


Yeah.  I'm livid.  I don't know what's worse, that the Republicans--who can all agree to ignore open Treason in concert with a country that has continent sterilizing nuclear drones off of our coasts--can't handle working within their own criminal enterprise to meet that 50% mark, or that they're so inept that the best bargaining piece they can come up with is the WELFARE OF THEIR BASE'S OWN CHILDRENas collateral.

For the Democrats, I'm disgusted but their willingness to deal with CHIPS on the table.  Have some farking decency.  Just because the Republican Party is so myopic that the only collateral they can bring to the table are juvenile hostages does not mean you have to accept that trade.
 
2018-01-20 04:45:23 AM  
No. The problem is the idiots that you all elect and send here. We actually have the LEAST to do with it and probably suffer the most. Stop making it someone else's problem and look in your own backyard.

God, this trope pisses me off so much.
 
2018-01-20 05:01:49 AM  
backhand.slap.of.reason:

Never negotiate with terrorists.
 
2018-01-20 05:08:34 AM  
If someone ever threatens your children to influence you, there's an SOP set by Caterina Sforza.

She was involved in a siege and she and her children were being held outside a friendly castle by a hostile  lord. She offered to go in and negotiate peace while  leaving her children as hostages . Instead she took charge and broke the siege. According to legend..

The Orsis believed Caterina because she left her children as hostages, but once inside she let loose a barrage of vulgar threats and promises of vengeance against her former captors. According to one rumour, when they threatened to kill her children, Caterina, standing in the walls of the fortress exposed her genitals and said: "Fatelo, se volete: impiccateli pure davanti a me... qui ho quanto basta per farne altri!" ("Do it, if you want to: hang them even in front of me...here I have what's needed to make others!")
 
2018-01-20 07:37:28 AM  

randomjsa: danielem1: Blaming Democrats this time will work as well as when Trump blamed Democrats for not voting for the Healthcare "bill" failure.

In that it's nonsense and no serious thinking person will fall for it.

"Never the Democrats fault"

Got it.


Actually, it's that the math doesn't show what he says it shows. The original deal that Trump had accepted before Stephen Miller told him not to would have passed the House and Senate with enough Democrats supporting it. Ryan and McConnell could easily bring that deal up at any time.

So he fails at that math, but also at the fact that 4 Republicans in the senate voted against cloture for the bill that failed last night, so even if Senate Democrats all simply abstained (voted present) we'd still have the same outcome.

But I also see you're an alt-using scumbag so maybe this is lost to the din of trolling bullshiat on here.
 
2018-01-20 08:02:19 AM  
tl; dr: Blah blah BSAB blah BASB blah BASB blah SRSLY BSAB!!1!one!.
 
2018-01-20 09:02:22 AM  

randomjsa: "Never the Democrats fault"


Who said "never?"  Did Home Depot have a sale on broad brushes this week?

I find your lack of logic disturbing.
 
2018-01-20 01:34:19 PM  

danielem1: Blaming Democrats this time will work as well as when Trump blamed Democrats for not voting for the Healthcare "bill" failure.

In that it's nonsense and no serious thinking person will fall for it.


The budget needs only a simple majority to pass. Republicans have a majority in both chambers of congress, and they need not worry about a veto-proof majority because the president is a Republican.  They were able to pass a tax bill without a single vote from a Democrat, and they could have passed a budget without a single vote from a Democrat. The Republicans own this 100%, and this cannot be repeated often enough.

When they controlled congress, the Republican chanted was "Why can't Obama lead?" What reasonable person can conclude anything besides the fact that Republicans cannot lead if they can't pass a budget when they control everything.
 
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