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2018-01-18 04:21:49 PM  
CM Punk tells the Truth - Raw 6/27/11‬ (HD)
Youtube 7Ms0DFxpptk
 
2018-01-18 04:24:41 PM  

bluorangefyre: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/7Ms0DFxp​ptk]


Oh, I see that WAS included!  And this wasn't?
2014 WWE Hall of Famer Ultimate Warrior speaks: Raw, April 7, 2014
Youtube xR08M6EUd0g
 
2018-01-18 04:43:35 PM  

bluorangefyre: bluorangefyre: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/7Ms0DFxp​ptk]

Oh, I see that WAS included!  And this wasn't?
[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/xR08M6EU​d0g]


He was a crazy asshole, but that's so chilling.
 
2018-01-18 04:53:11 PM  
What a shock that the beer truck was number 1 on the countdown.  WWE has a hard on for that segment.  It was good but not top all time good.  Vince in the hospital was a riot
 
2018-01-18 04:56:50 PM  
18. Vince McMahon revealed as the Higher Power

Which made absolutely no sense and was another example of shoddy booking during the Attitude era - great buildup but totally whiffing on the landing.

/Jake the Snake should have been the Higher Power. Too bad he was glued to a crack pipe at the time.
 
2018-01-18 05:01:26 PM  
Wow... its been 25 years since me not recognizing them over WWF.
 
2018-01-18 05:02:38 PM  
Number 8 was the real turning point of the Monday Night Wars, not for Triple H taking over DX, but Sean Waltman's promo.  His ripping Eric Biscoff and Hulk Hogan was also a message to the WCW roster that Vince McMahonn has something good going on, unless you're Goldberg, you're never going to advance above as long as the stale nWo story is going on with ATM Eric running the show.  Starcade '97 was a bust a few months earlier, when it was supposed to be the climax of that story.  Everybody in WCW's locker room thought it, but only Waltman said it on TV.

It was only a few weeks later that Raw beat Nitro for that week, and Biscoff lost control of Hall and Nash, and the rest of the locker room soon after.  From there, it was just a slow burn.
 
2018-01-18 05:05:16 PM  

bluorangefyre: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/7Ms0DFxp​ptk]


That should be #1.

#2 should be:

Bret 'Hitman' Hart snaps March 17, 1997
Youtube FxCDDlSw9-A
 
2018-01-18 05:06:07 PM  
Theater is not a sport.
 
2018-01-18 05:06:16 PM  

Rwa2play: bluorangefyre: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/7Ms0DFxp​ptk]

That should be #1.

#2 should be:

[YouTube video: Bret 'Hitman' Hart snaps March 17, 1997]


That whole show was nuts.
 
2018-01-18 05:13:11 PM  
TIL: Poorly written soap opera starring 'roided out Troglodytes occasionally interrupted by pre-determined "athletic" encounters has what can be determined as "Best Of" moments.

YMMV

yes I know, "why are you here"
 
2018-01-18 05:14:13 PM  

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: Number 8 was the real turning point of the Monday Night Wars, not for Triple H taking over DX, but Sean Waltman's promo.  His ripping Eric Biscoff and Hulk Hogan was also a message to the WCW roster that Vince McMahonn has something good going on, unless you're Goldberg, you're never going to advance above as long as the stale nWo story is going on with ATM Eric running the show.  Starcade '97 was a bust a few months earlier, when it was supposed to be the climax of that story.  Everybody in WCW's locker room thought it, but only Waltman said it on TV.

It was only a few weeks later that Raw beat Nitro for that week, and Biscoff lost control of Hall and Nash, and the rest of the locker room soon after.  From there, it was just a slow burn.


Always thought that Bischoff should've pulled his weight and let Piper win the title at Starrcade '97.  Both as a lifetime achievement award to Piper and to take the nWo angle in a new direction by having Hogan chase Piper.

Starrcade '98....dear lord that ME was a farking trainwreck.  The 50/50 booking, the "fast count" that wasn't.  It's no wonder WCW would die a slow painful death.
 
2018-01-18 05:15:03 PM  

2wolves: Theater is not a sport.


img.fark.netView Full Size
 
2018-01-18 05:17:04 PM  
I liked the Kurt Angle milk truck segment.  
WWE The Kurt Angle Milk Truck Incident RAW 2001
Youtube R2uxLOkqLQ0
 
2018-01-18 05:17:29 PM  

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: Rwa2play: bluorangefyre: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/7Ms0DFxp​ptk]

That should be #1.

#2 should be:

[YouTube video: Bret 'Hitman' Hart snaps March 17, 1997]

That whole show was nuts.


That's when I really got interested in the WW(E)F again: WCW had started to get boring for me when I happened to watch that whole thing unfold and said, "WTF?!  Are they shooting here?!"  Not sure if the censors not bleeping out Bret was intentional or if Bret went for the gusto and, as insiders would say, went into business for himself.
 
2018-01-18 05:30:53 PM  

Rwa2play: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: Number 8 was the real turning point of the Monday Night Wars, not for Triple H taking over DX, but Sean Waltman's promo.  His ripping Eric Biscoff and Hulk Hogan was also a message to the WCW roster that Vince McMahonn has something good going on, unless you're Goldberg, you're never going to advance above as long as the stale nWo story is going on with ATM Eric running the show.  Starcade '97 was a bust a few months earlier, when it was supposed to be the climax of that story.  Everybody in WCW's locker room thought it, but only Waltman said it on TV.

It was only a few weeks later that Raw beat Nitro for that week, and Biscoff lost control of Hall and Nash, and the rest of the locker room soon after.  From there, it was just a slow burn.

Always thought that Bischoff should've pulled his weight and let Piper win the title at Starrcade '97.  Both as a lifetime achievement award to Piper and to take the nWo angle in a new direction by having Hogan chase Piper.

Starrcade '98....dear lord that ME was a farking trainwreck.  The 50/50 booking, the "fast count" that wasn't.  It's no wonder WCW would die a slow painful death.


You're a year off.  Starcade '96 was Piper, '97 was the fast count, and that was supposed to be the end of the nWo storyline.
 
2018-01-18 05:36:21 PM  

2wolves: Theater is not a sport.


Then go pretend to like soccer
 
2018-01-18 05:39:00 PM  

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: Rwa2play: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: Number 8 was the real turning point of the Monday Night Wars, not for Triple H taking over DX, but Sean Waltman's promo.  His ripping Eric Biscoff and Hulk Hogan was also a message to the WCW roster that Vince McMahonn has something good going on, unless you're Goldberg, you're never going to advance above as long as the stale nWo story is going on with ATM Eric running the show.  Starcade '97 was a bust a few months earlier, when it was supposed to be the climax of that story.  Everybody in WCW's locker room thought it, but only Waltman said it on TV.

It was only a few weeks later that Raw beat Nitro for that week, and Biscoff lost control of Hall and Nash, and the rest of the locker room soon after.  From there, it was just a slow burn.

Always thought that Bischoff should've pulled his weight and let Piper win the title at Starrcade '97.  Both as a lifetime achievement award to Piper and to take the nWo angle in a new direction by having Hogan chase Piper.

Starrcade '98....dear lord that ME was a farking trainwreck.  The 50/50 booking, the "fast count" that wasn't.  It's no wonder WCW would die a slow painful death.

You're a year off.  Starcade '96 was Piper, '97 was the fast count, and that was supposed to be the end of the nWo storyline.


Only WCW (well TNA too) could build an angle for literally a year and a half and screw up the payoff.  I remember saying "ummm that was a regular count, not fast."

That PPV was the iceberg
 
2018-01-18 05:41:00 PM  

natural316: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: Rwa2play: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: Number 8 was the real turning point of the Monday Night Wars, not for Triple H taking over DX, but Sean Waltman's promo.  His ripping Eric Biscoff and Hulk Hogan was also a message to the WCW roster that Vince McMahonn has something good going on, unless you're Goldberg, you're never going to advance above as long as the stale nWo story is going on with ATM Eric running the show.  Starcade '97 was a bust a few months earlier, when it was supposed to be the climax of that story.  Everybody in WCW's locker room thought it, but only Waltman said it on TV.

It was only a few weeks later that Raw beat Nitro for that week, and Biscoff lost control of Hall and Nash, and the rest of the locker room soon after.  From there, it was just a slow burn.

Always thought that Bischoff should've pulled his weight and let Piper win the title at Starrcade '97.  Both as a lifetime achievement award to Piper and to take the nWo angle in a new direction by having Hogan chase Piper.

Starrcade '98....dear lord that ME was a farking trainwreck.  The 50/50 booking, the "fast count" that wasn't.  It's no wonder WCW would die a slow painful death.

You're a year off.  Starcade '96 was Piper, '97 was the fast count, and that was supposed to be the end of the nWo storyline.

Only WCW (well TNA too) could build an angle for literally a year and a half and screw up the payoff.  I remember saying "ummm that was a regular count, not fast."

That PPV was the iceberg


A lot of people bring up Montreal, very few people talk about how that affected Starcade a month later like that.
 
2018-01-18 05:43:01 PM  

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: natural316: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: Rwa2play: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: Number 8 was the real turning point of the Monday Night Wars, not for Triple H taking over DX, but Sean Waltman's promo.  His ripping Eric Biscoff and Hulk Hogan was also a message to the WCW roster that Vince McMahonn has something good going on, unless you're Goldberg, you're never going to advance above as long as the stale nWo story is going on with ATM Eric running the show.  Starcade '97 was a bust a few months earlier, when it was supposed to be the climax of that story.  Everybody in WCW's locker room thought it, but only Waltman said it on TV.

It was only a few weeks later that Raw beat Nitro for that week, and Biscoff lost control of Hall and Nash, and the rest of the locker room soon after.  From there, it was just a slow burn.

Always thought that Bischoff should've pulled his weight and let Piper win the title at Starrcade '97.  Both as a lifetime achievement award to Piper and to take the nWo angle in a new direction by having Hogan chase Piper.

Starrcade '98....dear lord that ME was a farking trainwreck.  The 50/50 booking, the "fast count" that wasn't.  It's no wonder WCW would die a slow painful death.

You're a year off.  Starcade '96 was Piper, '97 was the fast count, and that was supposed to be the end of the nWo storyline.

Only WCW (well TNA too) could build an angle for literally a year and a half and screw up the payoff.  I remember saying "ummm that was a regular count, not fast."

That PPV was the iceberg

A lot of people bring up Montreal, very few people talk about how that affected Starcade a month later like that.


I felt bad for Bret because they had no clue what to do with him.  Either that or Hogan just wouldn't let them
 
2018-01-18 05:43:46 PM  

natural316: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: natural316: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: Rwa2play: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: Number 8 was the real turning point of the Monday Night Wars, not for Triple H taking over DX, but Sean Waltman's promo.  His ripping Eric Biscoff and Hulk Hogan was also a message to the WCW roster that Vince McMahonn has something good going on, unless you're Goldberg, you're never going to advance above as long as the stale nWo story is going on with ATM Eric running the show.  Starcade '97 was a bust a few months earlier, when it was supposed to be the climax of that story.  Everybody in WCW's locker room thought it, but only Waltman said it on TV.

It was only a few weeks later that Raw beat Nitro for that week, and Biscoff lost control of Hall and Nash, and the rest of the locker room soon after.  From there, it was just a slow burn.

Always thought that Bischoff should've pulled his weight and let Piper win the title at Starrcade '97.  Both as a lifetime achievement award to Piper and to take the nWo angle in a new direction by having Hogan chase Piper.

Starrcade '98....dear lord that ME was a farking trainwreck.  The 50/50 booking, the "fast count" that wasn't.  It's no wonder WCW would die a slow painful death.

You're a year off.  Starcade '96 was Piper, '97 was the fast count, and that was supposed to be the end of the nWo storyline.

Only WCW (well TNA too) could build an angle for literally a year and a half and screw up the payoff.  I remember saying "ummm that was a regular count, not fast."

That PPV was the iceberg

A lot of people bring up Montreal, very few people talk about how that affected Starcade a month later like that.

I felt bad for Bret because they had no clue what to do with him.  Either that or Hogan just wouldn't let them


The latter.  Hart talks extensively about that in his book.
 
2018-01-18 05:44:21 PM  

natural316: 2wolves: Theater is not a sport.

Then go pretend to like soccer


How about lacrosse?  I really enjoy lacrosse.  And hockey, which is lacrosse on ice.  Soccer is good.
 
2018-01-18 05:46:33 PM  

natural316: Only WCW (well TNA too) could build an angle for literally a year and a half and screw up the payoff.


It's never been fully explained but the rumor is that Hogan paid Nick Patrick a considerable sum of money to slow count it.

Given his reputation and how much work was put into the slow buildup of the angle I think it's the only explanation that makes sense.

It not only killed the company in the long term, it also buried Bret Hart who was white hot coming out of Montreal and should have been a can't miss acquisition for the company
 
2018-01-18 05:55:11 PM  

Snapper Carr: natural316: Only WCW (well TNA too) could build an angle for literally a year and a half and screw up the payoff.

It's never been fully explained but the rumor is that Hogan paid Nick Patrick a considerable sum of money to slow count it.

Given his reputation and how much work was put into the slow buildup of the angle I think it's the only explanation that makes sense.

It not only killed the company in the long term, it also buried Bret Hart who was white hot coming out of Montreal and should have been a can't miss acquisition for the company


Nick Patrick broke his silence recently.  He said he heard some bookers tell him to do a fast count, others told him to do a regular count, Hogan said to do what's "natural" to him (whatever that meant), and Biscoff no where in the building.

All out shiatshow.
 
2018-01-18 06:19:51 PM  
DX impersonates The Nation
Youtube JB81hqH94CQ


How do you have top moments and skip this?
 
2018-01-18 06:30:36 PM  

bhcompy: [YouTube video: DX impersonates The Nation]

How do you have top moments and skip this?


They may not want to remind people of the time Triple H came out in blackface.
 
2018-01-18 06:41:41 PM  

The_Y2P_Problem: bhcompy: [YouTube video: DX impersonates The Nation]

How do you have top moments and skip this?

They may not want to remind people of the time Triple H came out in blackface.


NYP isn't one to give a shiat about such things, usually
 
2018-01-18 07:09:13 PM  

bluorangefyre: [YouTube video: CM Punk tells the Truth - Raw 6/27/11 (HD)]


God, I cant believe it has been almost 7 years since the pipebomb.  The FWC was just getting good.  Glad to see it is still around on here.
 
2018-01-18 07:22:13 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: bluorangefyre: [YouTube video: CM Punk tells the Truth - Raw 6/27/11 (HD)]

God, I cant believe it has been almost 7 years since the pipebomb.  The FWC was just getting good.  Glad to see it is still around on here.


I remember that night. Still the most insane thing I've seen.
 
2018-01-18 08:00:05 PM  

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: Snapper Carr: natural316: Only WCW (well TNA too) could build an angle for literally a year and a half and screw up the payoff.

It's never been fully explained but the rumor is that Hogan paid Nick Patrick a considerable sum of money to slow count it.

Given his reputation and how much work was put into the slow buildup of the angle I think it's the only explanation that makes sense.

It not only killed the company in the long term, it also buried Bret Hart who was white hot coming out of Montreal and should have been a can't miss acquisition for the company

Nick Patrick broke his silence recently.  He said he heard some bookers tell him to do a fast count, others told him to do a regular count, Hogan said to do what's "natural" to him (whatever that meant), and Biscoff no where in the building.

All out shiatshow.


Supposedly Hogan had been politicking hard about the match backstage, to the point where he was arguing about how the match should be laid just hours before it was to start.  It wouldn't shock me if Hogan had leaned on some of the bookers just to muddy things up.
 
2018-01-18 08:25:47 PM  

bluorangefyre: bluorangefyre: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/7Ms0DFxp​ptk]

Oh, I see that WAS included!  And this wasn't?

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/xR08M6EU​d0g]

My personal fav:

WWE Raw 7-25-11: CM Punk Returns and John Cena is new WWE Champion [HD] FULL
Youtube c9PIdDXmLgY

 
2018-01-18 08:37:16 PM  
That Jackie Gayda Match - 7-8-2002 Raw
Youtube 7K9gIOP3H_Q
 
2018-01-18 08:48:46 PM  

Flappyhead: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: Snapper Carr: natural316: Only WCW (well TNA too) could build an angle for literally a year and a half and screw up the payoff.

It's never been fully explained but the rumor is that Hogan paid Nick Patrick a considerable sum of money to slow count it.

Given his reputation and how much work was put into the slow buildup of the angle I think it's the only explanation that makes sense.

It not only killed the company in the long term, it also buried Bret Hart who was white hot coming out of Montreal and should have been a can't miss acquisition for the company

Nick Patrick broke his silence recently.  He said he heard some bookers tell him to do a fast count, others told him to do a regular count, Hogan said to do what's "natural" to him (whatever that meant), and Biscoff no where in the building.

All out shiatshow.

Supposedly Hogan had been politicking hard about the match backstage, to the point where he was arguing about how the match should be laid just hours before it was to start.  It wouldn't shock me if Hogan had leaned on some of the bookers just to muddy things up.


It was a lot more than that.  The Monday Night Wars mixed well with Wall St.

A year earlier, October 1996, as the nWo angle was taking off, Turner Premier merged with Warner Brothers to create Time Warner, allowing more exposure, which definitely helped Nitro beat Raw for 84 weeks.  By spring of 1998, Hogan's contract with WCW was expiring, and the suits in Time Warner wanted him retained and at the top, especially since they had been promoting him in movies for a decade.  Hogan started playing hardball, and basically hit the lottery (the whole contract leaked a few years ago, it's nuts).  Bottom line, a lot of money with way too many corporate perks.  Hall, Nash and Waltman found out about his negotiations before it was signed, and wanted the same (stuff they did in WWF as the Kliq with Shawn Michaels).  Bischoff agreed for Hall and Nash, but didn't think Waltman was worthy enough, so he fired him.

Hence, #8 on the list in TFA.
 
2018-01-18 08:59:20 PM  

ZMugg: pre-determined "athletic" encounters


...but enough about the NBA...
 
2018-01-18 10:29:02 PM  
WWF - Kane Returns [2000] [HQ]
Youtube VzhxwuizY9M


Really, any time the lights dropped.
 
2018-01-18 10:48:30 PM  

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: Rwa2play: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: Number 8 was the real turning point of the Monday Night Wars, not for Triple H taking over DX, but Sean Waltman's promo.  His ripping Eric Biscoff and Hulk Hogan was also a message to the WCW roster that Vince McMahonn has something good going on, unless you're Goldberg, you're never going to advance above as long as the stale nWo story is going on with ATM Eric running the show.  Starcade '97 was a bust a few months earlier, when it was supposed to be the climax of that story.  Everybody in WCW's locker room thought it, but only Waltman said it on TV.

It was only a few weeks later that Raw beat Nitro for that week, and Biscoff lost control of Hall and Nash, and the rest of the locker room soon after.  From there, it was just a slow burn.

Always thought that Bischoff should've pulled his weight and let Piper win the title at Starrcade '97.  Both as a lifetime achievement award to Piper and to take the nWo angle in a new direction by having Hogan chase Piper.

Starrcade '98....dear lord that ME was a farking trainwreck.  The 50/50 booking, the "fast count" that wasn't.  It's no wonder WCW would die a slow painful death.

You're a year off.  Starcade '96 was Piper, '97 was the fast count, and that was supposed to be the end of the nWo storyline.


Yeah, it's been so long and that storyline was such a hair-pulling mess that I forgot the timeline.

Seriously, the nWo could've been an angle that would've lasted longer had egos not gotten in the way of doing good business.
 
2018-01-18 10:54:10 PM  

Snapper Carr: natural316: Only WCW (well TNA too) could build an angle for literally a year and a half and screw up the payoff.

It's never been fully explained but the rumor is that Hogan paid Nick Patrick a considerable sum of money to slow count it.

Given his reputation and how much work was put into the slow buildup of the angle I think it's the only explanation that makes sense.

It not only killed the company in the long term, it also buried Bret Hart who was white hot coming out of Montreal and should have been a can't miss acquisition for the company


Seriously, how hard was it to just redo the Luger/Flair house show storyline from a decade earlier?

Sting destroys Hogan for 10 minutes straight; completely no-sells Hogan's offense to show how weak Hogan was.  Hogan hits him with a foreign object, Patrick fast counts, everybody knows this is BS, Bret comes down and says "This shiat ain't happening again", pulls rank, restarts the match, Sting destroys Hogan, clamps on the Scorpion, ballgame.

Maybe Hogan tries to play lawyers, politics in the aftermath on-screen to demand his title back but in the long run he puts Sting over to end it.

The end.
 
2018-01-18 10:55:31 PM  

bhcompy: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/JB81hqH9​4CQ]

How do you have top moments and skip this?


In one angle they turned DX 100% face and they became the #2 babyfaces behind Austin?
 
2018-01-18 10:58:17 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: bluorangefyre: [YouTube video: CM Punk tells the Truth - Raw 6/27/11 (HD)]

God, I cant believe it has been almost 7 years since the pipebomb.  The FWC was just getting good.  Glad to see it is still around on here.


For the farkin' life of me I still can't believe Vince screwed that up so badly.

Here's CM cutting the promo of his career, somewhere Vince must've been wondering "Here's the "PG" Austin for the next decade.  Lots of money to be made, keep him at the top of the card...and within 3 months it went to shiat because Vince's decided to fark with fate.
 
2018-01-18 11:49:21 PM  
Wow, I just got hit with a major wave of nostalgia. I remember the first few episodes of Raw - I remember the 123 kid beating Razor Ramon as I watched that episode live. I didn't realize until much later that the old show, superstars or what ever it was called, was all pre-taped and all the interview segments were done on a sound stage. I was about to turn 10 when Monday Night Raw started, and I had been watching the Monday night show for at least a few years by that point. I finally quit watching in 99/00 time frame and haven't watched a single episode since.

Going back through all that brought back a lot of random memories. Getting old sucks.
 
2018-01-19 12:22:47 AM  
Anyone remember the old versions of The Hardy Boyza and Lita....back in 2000 or 2001?

Old Lita and one of the old Hardys are my relatives.

/CSB.
 
2018-01-19 12:25:43 AM  
The unforgettable debut of The Shockmaster
Youtube Fahljd_0xjA
 
2018-01-19 12:58:13 AM  

The_Sponge: Anyone remember the old versions of The Hardy Boyza and Lita....back in 2000 or 2001?

Old Lita and one of the old Hardys are my relatives.

/CSB.


The Hardys are real life brothers, Matt and Jeff.  Lita, who dated Matt, but never went further than that, was not related in any way to them.

So either you are related to both the Hardy Brothers, and Lita through a different source, or your story is as bad as the cr@p they put on television.

/NSCSB...
 
2018-01-19 01:05:18 AM  

biggamehickman: The_Sponge: Anyone remember the old versions of The Hardy Boyza and Lita....back in 2000 or 2001?

Old Lita and one of the old Hardys are my relatives.

/CSB.

The Hardys are real life brothers, Matt and Jeff.  Lita, who dated Matt, but never went further than that, was not related in any way to them.

So either you are related to both the Hardy Brothers, and Lita through a different source, or your story is as bad as the cr@p they put on television.

/NSCSB...


I should hve been more specific...I said old because they had these old people pretending to be old versions of them from the future....some other wrestlers did it as a dig at the real version of the Hardys and Lita.

Meh...if some hardcore fan comes back this thread, he might remember it.
 
2018-01-19 01:08:29 AM  

The_Sponge: biggamehickman: The_Sponge: Anyone remember the old versions of The Hardy Boyza and Lita....back in 2000 or 2001?

Old Lita and one of the old Hardys are my relatives.

/CSB.

The Hardys are real life brothers, Matt and Jeff.  Lita, who dated Matt, but never went further than that, was not related in any way to them.

So either you are related to both the Hardy Brothers, and Lita through a different source, or your story is as bad as the cr@p they put on television.

/NSCSB...

I should hve been more specific...I said old because they had these old people pretending to be old versions of them from the future....some other wrestlers did it as a dig at the real version of the Hardys and Lita.

Meh...if some hardcore fan comes back this thread, he might remember it.


Ahh fair enough.  I retract my comparing of your story to the stupidity that airs weekly on USA Network.  Carry on.
 
2018-01-19 01:15:29 AM  
img.fark.netView Full Size
 
2018-01-19 01:17:01 AM  
Here's a fun fact, Bill Goldberg was a guest on the Grand Tour in tonight's episode.
 
2018-01-19 07:33:50 AM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: Here's a fun fact, Bill Goldberg was a guest on the Grand Tour in tonight's episode.


I miss Bull Run.
 
2018-01-19 08:10:30 AM  

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: natural316: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: natural316: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: Rwa2play: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: Number 8 was the real turning point of the Monday Night Wars, not for Triple H taking over DX, but Sean Waltman's promo.  His ripping Eric Biscoff and Hulk Hogan was also a message to the WCW roster that Vince McMahonn has something good going on, unless you're Goldberg, you're never going to advance above as long as the stale nWo story is going on with ATM Eric running the show.  Starcade '97 was a bust a few months earlier, when it was supposed to be the climax of that story.  Everybody in WCW's locker room thought it, but only Waltman said it on TV.

It was only a few weeks later that Raw beat Nitro for that week, and Biscoff lost control of Hall and Nash, and the rest of the locker room soon after.  From there, it was just a slow burn.

Always thought that Bischoff should've pulled his weight and let Piper win the title at Starrcade '97.  Both as a lifetime achievement award to Piper and to take the nWo angle in a new direction by having Hogan chase Piper.

Starrcade '98....dear lord that ME was a farking trainwreck.  The 50/50 booking, the "fast count" that wasn't.  It's no wonder WCW would die a slow painful death.

You're a year off.  Starcade '96 was Piper, '97 was the fast count, and that was supposed to be the end of the nWo storyline.

Only WCW (well TNA too) could build an angle for literally a year and a half and screw up the payoff.  I remember saying "ummm that was a regular count, not fast."

That PPV was the iceberg

A lot of people bring up Montreal, very few people talk about how that affected Starcade a month later like that.

I felt bad for Bret because they had no clue what to do with him.  Either that or Hogan just wouldn't let them

The latter.  Hart talks extensively about that in his book.


That Hogan/Sting match was terrible because Hogan basically beat Sting clean before the"fast count" the whole execution was terrible.
 
2018-01-19 08:45:01 AM  

Rwa2play: Igor Jakovsky: bluorangefyre: [YouTube video: CM Punk tells the Truth - Raw 6/27/11 (HD)]

God, I cant believe it has been almost 7 years since the pipebomb.  The FWC was just getting good.  Glad to see it is still around on here.

For the farkin' life of me I still can't believe Vince screwed that up so badly.

Here's CM cutting the promo of his career, somewhere Vince must've been wondering "Here's the "PG" Austin for the next decade.  Lots of money to be made, keep him at the top of the card...and within 3 months it went to shiat because Vince's decided to fark with fate.


Looking back that was the start of a three year stretch where Vince left flat out stupid amounts of money on the table.  You had Punk and Bryan getting white hot, Ryder getting himself over without even wrestling and the Wyatt's debuting on a freaking tidal wave of anticipation all one after another.  And in each case Vince either botched it or actively sabotaged the angle.  Unreal.
 
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