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(Rolling Stone)   In a Major Major Major announcement, George Clooney will star in the six-part adaptation of Catch-22 for Hulu   ( rollingstone.com) divider line
    More: Cool, landmark novel Catch-22, American film actors, George Clooney, six-part limited series, Air Force bombardier, sinister bureaucratic rule, regular small-screen role, Director Mike Nichols  
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2018-01-16 07:38:51 AM  
Share and share alike. Everyone gets a share.
 
2018-01-16 08:27:13 AM  

BalugaJoe: Share and share alike. Everyone gets a share.


Do I get a share?
 
2018-01-16 08:30:46 AM  
That book sat on my "really want to read this" list for about 20 years. Finally read it (via audiobook) a couple months a go. Fantastic book, but I'm glad I waited. There are a lot of themes that would have gone over my head when I was in high school or college.
 
2018-01-16 08:43:37 AM  
Shouldn't that be Major Major Major Major?

Is he in his office?
 
2018-01-16 08:54:27 AM  

kevlar51: That book sat on my "really want to read this" list for about 20 years. Finally read it (via audiobook) a couple months a go. Fantastic book, but I'm glad I waited. There are a lot of themes that would have gone over my head when I was in high school or college.


I "read" the audio book also.  I thought it was sorta repetitive.  I'm glad I listened to it, but I'm also happy I don't need to do a book report on it.
 
2018-01-16 09:01:17 AM  

TommyDeuce: Shouldn't that be Major Major Major Major?

Is he in his office?


Only when he's out.

Clooney, as much as I love him, is too good looking to be the harried Major Major. Bob Newhart was quintessential.
 
2018-01-16 09:01:17 AM  
It might be nice for people to understand why that phrase is in our lexicon again. Isn't he a little old to play Yosarian?
 
2018-01-16 09:02:07 AM  
I thought there were many laugh out loud moments in the book. I'm excited for this.
 
2018-01-16 09:02:11 AM  
reads TFA. Clooney is playing Colonel Cathcart, which makes way more sense.
 
2018-01-16 09:22:26 AM  
The movie is excellent (if you get the original edit). Clooney's buddy Soderbergh oversaw (and did commentary on) the best transfer I am aware of.

Clooney has some work to do if he wants to improve on that.
 
2018-01-16 09:26:00 AM  
Who's gonna play Mrs Scheisskopf?
 
2018-01-16 09:26:01 AM  
So who should play the other parts?  I can't imagine anyone being better than Arkin  as Youssarian.  The rest of cast - Orson Welles, Newhart, Balaban, Grodin, Garfunkel, John Voight, Anthony Perkins, Marin Sheen, Buck Henry...sheesh.  This may not be such a great idea after all.
 
2018-01-16 09:29:38 AM  
  I hope this is better than the original movie.  This is one of my favorite books of all time, but I found the movie to be horrible.  With that said, it's a long/nuanced book and I doubt it would ever lend itself well to cinema.
 
2018-01-16 09:30:09 AM  
He gets a lot of cleaver.
 
2018-01-16 09:32:29 AM  

MAJ Ethanolic: I hope this is better than the original movie.  This is one of my favorite books of all time, but I found the movie to be horrible.  With that said, it's a long/nuanced book and I doubt it would ever lend itself well to cinema.


They said the same thing about The Dark Tower
 
2018-01-16 09:36:46 AM  

FlashHarry: TommyDeuce: Shouldn't that be Major Major Major Major?

Is he in his office?

Only when he's out.

Clooney, as much as I love him, is too good looking to be the harried Major Major. Bob Newhart was quintessential.


Is Henry Fonda available?
 
2018-01-16 09:37:04 AM  
I could see Michael Cera as the chaplain.
Any of Rachel Bloom, Rachel Brosnahan or Liz Caplan as the nurse Yossarian bags.
Jesse Eisenberg an Nately.
Hmmm.
 
2018-01-16 09:39:34 AM  

Crewmannumber6: It might be nice for people to understand why that phrase is in our lexicon again. Isn't he a little old to play Yosarian?


He's playing Colonel Cathcart.

Cathcart was played in the movie by Martin Balsam who's the father of Clooney's first wife.
 
2018-01-16 09:48:12 AM  

BalugaJoe: Share and share alike. Everyone gets a share.


Its what we are fighting for.
 
2018-01-16 09:48:43 AM  
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It was love at first sight. The first time Yossarian saw the chaplain he fell madly in love with him.

/And then the murders began.
 
2018-01-16 09:55:17 AM  
Another Clooney vanity project, yippee.
 
2018-01-16 10:01:27 AM  

Crewmannumber6: MAJ Ethanolic: I hope this is better than the original movie.  This is one of my favorite books of all time, but I found the movie to be horrible.  With that said, it's a long/nuanced book and I doubt it would ever lend itself well to cinema.

They said the same thing about The Dark Tower


Dark Tower movie was a shiat adaptation, even for the next turn of the wheel so to speak. I keep wishing Netflix or HBO or someone would pick it up and they'd do it as a 4-5 season show. They could skip most of the stuff in SoS since that could take all of two episodes to get through the important parts.

As for the actual subject of the article, I think that's the best way to adapt books these days. There's enough cable and pay services doing their own content now that any one of them could do a series or long miniseries that would capture more of the book than a 2 hour summer movie ever could.
 
2018-01-16 10:01:27 AM  

bighairyguy: Another Clooney vanity project, yippee.


It's the only way non-franchise movies get made any more.
 
2018-01-16 10:09:57 AM  

bighairyguy: Another Clooney vanity project, yippee.


Oh, you.
 
2018-01-16 10:26:07 AM  

bighairyguy: Another Clooney vanity project, yippee.



What, like Confessions of a Dangerous Mind?

Cause that was awesome.
 
2018-01-16 10:52:47 AM  
i just read this a few months ago.  Dug it but on the whole, it has a lot of stuff that seemed extraneous or didn't really pay off.

curious who plays Nurse Duckett or that one general's secretary.  i forget her name but there's that funny passage where the general is like, "her nipples are like Bing cherries and her uniform is 3 sizes too small.  every time she moves you can hear her skin rustle against the fabric" (or some shiat like that).

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read this about a year ago.  interesting for war historians.  Heller clearly borrowed several real life incidents for the book, which is not surprising.
 
2018-01-16 10:57:19 AM  
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Catch-22 (Complete Pilot, 1973)
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2018-01-16 11:13:43 AM  

Atomic Jonb: kevlar51: That book sat on my "really want to read this" list for about 20 years. Finally read it (via audiobook) a couple months a go. Fantastic book, but I'm glad I waited. There are a lot of themes that would have gone over my head when I was in high school or college.

I "read" the audio book also.  I thought it was sorta repetitive.


I had it on CD and thought it was repetitive also. But that was because the machine got stuck when it got to the Major's name and just said it continuously for 2 minutes.
 
2018-01-16 11:15:56 AM  

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Jesus. with a laugh track and everything!
 
2018-01-16 11:34:38 AM  

dionysusaur: bighairyguy: Another Clooney vanity project, yippee.

It's the only way non-franchise movies get made any more.


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Not sure if there's a book that comes after this one...
 
2018-01-16 11:42:14 AM  

rickythepenguin: that one general's secretary. i forget her name


*researches*

According to IMDb and Wikipedia she is unnamed.
IMDb lists the character as "Dreedle's WAC"
The Wiki for the book has her listed under unnamed characters as "Dreedle's girl".
 
2018-01-16 11:47:33 AM  
Catch-22 is perhaps my favorite novel of all time. I'm excited for this, even if it sucks. I think I'll read the book again in preparation.

I read somewhere that someone interviewed Heller years after Catch-22 and said, "You haven't written another book like Catch-22," to which Heller replied, "Who has?"
 
2018-01-16 11:48:08 AM  

ZMugg: *researches*


'You should see her naked,' General Dreedle chortled with croupy relish, while his nurse stood smiling proudly right at his shoulder.  'Back at Wing she's got a uniform in my room made of purple silk that's so tight her nipples stand out like bing cherries.  Milo got me the fabric. There isn't even room enough for panties or a brassiere underneath. I make her wear it some nights when Moodus is around just to drive him crazy.' General Dreedle laughed hoarsely. 'You should see what goes on inside that blouse of hers every time she shifts her weight. She drives him out of his mind. The first time I catch him putting a hand on her or any other woman I'll bust the horny bastard right down to private and put him on K.P. for a year.'

'He keeps her around just to drive me crazy,' Colonel Moodus accused aggrievedly at the other end of the bar. 'Back at Wing she's got a uniform made out of purple silk that's so tight her nipples stand out like bing cherries. There isn't even room for panties or a brassiere underneath. You should hear that rustle every time she shifts her weight. The first time I make a pass at her or any other girl he'll bust me right down to private and put me on K.P. for a year. She drives me out of my mind.'

'He hasn't gotten laid since we shipped overseas,' confided General Dreedle, and his square grizzled head bobbed with sadistic laughter at the fiendish idea. 'That's one of the reasons I never let him out of my sight, just so he can't get to a woman. Can you imagine what that poor son of a biatch is going through?'

'I haven't been to bed with a woman since we shipped overseas,' Colonel Moodus whimpered tearfully. 'Can you imagine what I'm going through?' General Dreedle could be as intransigent with anyone else when displeased as he was with Colonel Moodus......

 
2018-01-16 11:51:07 AM  
I'd have to be crazy not to watch it. But I'm not crazy and I want to watch it. I'm in a bit of a bind.
 
2018-01-16 11:51:21 AM  
Not going to watch; haven't even read Catch-01.
 
2018-01-16 12:19:14 PM  
Eh...

"Catch-22" is one of those books that I consider a "stunt" book. The central theme is clever, and it's all executed well, but there just isn't that much to it. Worth reading, and definitely a classic, but not something anybody needs to revisit.
 
2018-01-16 12:25:12 PM  

GungFu: Not going to watch; haven't even read Catch-01.


it was written as something like, "Catch 17" originally.  and then in a odd coincidence, right around the time the rights to publish Heller's book were being finalized, another book that i believe had a WWII theme, was published with the title "Squad 17"* or some shiat.  heller/heller's people realized having two books with "17" in the title would be confusing.  so they changed it.


*no, not "Stalag 17", some other book that evidently didn't write its name large in the history books....
 
2018-01-16 12:45:05 PM  
When the movie was made, it was possible to dig up 25-year-old WWII-vintage equipment, including flyable Mitchell B-25s sufficient to look realistic (See "The Battle of Britain" movie, where they found enough Me-109s and Heinkel 111s in South American training squadrons to actually pull off "Dunkirk"-like practical effects.)

That would be 90% CGI today. You'd have to be crazy.
 
2018-01-16 01:03:27 PM  

MAJ Ethanolic: I hope this is better than the original movie.  This is one of my favorite books of all time, but I found the movie to be horrible.  With that said, it's a long/nuanced book and I doubt it would ever lend itself well to cinema.


It's not that hard to do. Just bring in Bay to oversee dialogue rewrites and JJ to consult on plot twists to keep the cheaters who already read the book guessing.

Plus, now it's ready for the export market.
 
2018-01-16 01:13:15 PM  

MAJ Ethanolic: I hope this is better than the original movie.  This is one of my favorite books of all time, but I found the movie to be horrible.  With that said, it's a long/nuanced book and I doubt it would ever lend itself well to cinema.


It's a tough adaptation.  Buck Henry's screenplay was about 6 hours long and they chopped it down to 2-1/2 hours.  For what it was, the movie was a solid attempt, and it does have some shining moments in it.  The cast is phenomenal, so it certainly wasn't from a lack of trying to get it right.
 
2018-01-16 01:26:11 PM  
Oh,  well. What the hell.

I had to read Catch-22 in high school. It's a great book, and I'd probably enjoy it more now that I'm older. It was my introduction to non-linear story telling. I'm hoping the series is just as convoluted.
 
2018-01-16 01:32:10 PM  
Who will they get to play Milo Minderbinder?

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2018-01-16 01:33:43 PM  

rickythepenguin: GungFu: Not going to watch; haven't even read Catch-01.

it was written as something like, "Catch 17" originally.  and then in a odd coincidence, right around the time the rights to publish Heller's book were being finalized, another book that i believe had a WWII theme, was published with the title "Squad 17"* or some shiat.  heller/heller's people realized having two books with "17" in the title would be confusing.  so they changed it.


*no, not "Stalag 17", some other book that evidently didn't write its name large in the history books....


Wiki: The title is a reference to a fictional bureaucratic stipulation which embodies forms of illogical and immoral reasoning. The opening chapter of the novel was originally published in New World Writing as Catch-18 in 1955, but Heller's agent, Candida Donadio, requested that he change the title of the novel, so it would not be confused with another recently published World War II novel, Leon Uris's Mila 18.
 
2018-01-16 01:36:49 PM  

HighOnCraic: [villagevoice.freetls.fastly.net image 774x525]

It was love at first sight. The first time Yossarian saw the chaplain he fell madly in love with him.

/And then the murders began.


Clooney can be campy, but is best when reserved. Vince Vaughn could do the outrage of Yossarian well. Or even the screamer. Been too long since I re-read it.

The censoring part would be particularly amusing.
 
2018-01-16 01:36:58 PM  

Valiente: When the movie was made, it was possible to dig up 25-year-old WWII-vintage equipment, including flyable Mitchell B-25s sufficient to look realistic (See "The Battle of Britain" movie, where they found enough Me-109s and Heinkel 111s in South American training squadrons to actually pull off "Dunkirk"-like practical effects.)

That would be 90% CGI today. You'd have to be crazy.


Most of the currently-flying B-25s are veterans of the Catch-22 movie. They had 16 or 17 of them (one re-done as a camera plane) in the air for practical shots. Frank Tallman and Tallmantz Aviation did the deed.
 
2018-01-16 01:50:37 PM  

bobug: HighOnCraic: [villagevoice.freetls.fastly.net image 774x525]

It was love at first sight. The first time Yossarian saw the chaplain he fell madly in love with him.

/And then the murders began.

Clooney can be campy, but is best when reserved. Vince Vaughn could do the outrage of Yossarian well. Or even the screamer. Been too long since I re-read it.

The censoring part would be particularly amusing.


Clooney should be Orr.
 
2018-01-16 02:02:52 PM  

Cheron: bobug: HighOnCraic: [villagevoice.freetls.fastly.net image 774x525]

It was love at first sight. The first time Yossarian saw the chaplain he fell madly in love with him.

/And then the murders began.

Clooney can be campy, but is best when reserved. Vince Vaughn could do the outrage of Yossarian well. Or even the screamer. Been too long since I re-read it.

The censoring part would be particularly amusing.

Clooney should be Orr.


Now, THAT I could see.
 
2018-01-16 02:10:36 PM  

bobug


The censoring part would be particularly amusing.


"I yearn for you tragically. A. T. Tappman." is pretty amusing by itself.
 
2018-01-16 02:13:01 PM  

bobug


Cheron: bobug: HighOnCraic: [villagevoice.freetls.fastly.net image 774x525]

It was love at first sight. The first time Yossarian saw the chaplain he fell madly in love with him.

/And then the murders began.

Clooney can be campy, but is best when reserved. Vince Vaughn could do the outrage of Yossarian well. Or even the screamer. Been too long since I re-read it.

The censoring part would be particularly amusing.

Clooney should be Orr.

Now, THAT I could see.


???

IIRC Orr was basically described as a goofy bucktoothed little dude. Even if you give Clooney some fake teeth it would still be a stretch.

Maybe Matt Damon is available.
 
2018-01-16 02:14:28 PM  

kevlar51: That book sat on my "really want to read this" list for about 20 years. Finally read it (via audiobook) a couple months a go. Fantastic book, but I'm glad I waited. There are a lot of themes that would have gone over my head when I was in high school or college.


Yea. I read it in Junior High and it didn't make a lifelong impression on me like Hitchhikers Guide did when I read it a few years later.

I guess I should give it another go.
 
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