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(The Hill)   'Shiathole-gate' gets deeper as Trump says he "didn't care" about the demands of the Congressional Black Caucus during last week's immigration debate. But don't you dare call him a racist   ( thehill.com) divider line
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2018-01-16 03:30:47 AM  
for someone who often claims to be the best negotiator in the history of ever, trump sure does fail to grasp the basics of politics.  things like 'not pissing off the people you need to make a deal with' are generally considered 'basic level' politics 101 kind stuff.
 
2018-01-16 03:34:02 AM  
Trump said he didn't care about CBC's demands

Well no more Murdoch Mysteries or Schitt's Creek for him!
 
2018-01-16 05:02:23 AM  
The full WaPo article says this "undoing of the deal" was Stephen Miller's and John Kelly's handiwork, which is not surprising. Also that Cotton and Perdue heard "shiathouse" not "shiathole" and therefore could deny the "shiathole" word. I can't even...
 
2018-01-16 05:07:03 AM  
How does trump intend to avoid a full government shut down now that he's tanked even the thought of a discussion on a deal AND doubled down on the racism to boot....?

trump still seems to think he's dealing from a position of strength.  I don't think he's realized yet how precarious his position really is these days.
 
2018-01-16 05:17:21 AM  
Side note: the other day did Stephen Miller really say Trump Force One about a plane Trump was on? Thanks, now back to  SFSDFD
 
2018-01-16 05:20:38 AM  

Weaver95: How does trump intend to avoid a full government shut down now that he's tanked even the thought of a discussion on a deal AND doubled down on the racism to boot....?

trump still seems to think he's dealing from a position of strength.  I don't think he's realized yet how precarious his position really is these days.


I can scarcely imagine a weaker person than Trump.  They'd practically have to be a senile man in an Iron Lung to be weaker.
 
2018-01-16 06:02:10 AM  
You guys don't know it yet, but Trump the Musical is going to be amazing in a few years, believe me.
 
2018-01-16 06:21:24 AM  
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2018-01-16 06:35:30 AM  
If it quacks like a racist ...
 
2018-01-16 06:38:03 AM  

Weaver95: for someone who often claims to be the best negotiator in the history of ever, trump sure does fail to grasp the basics of politics.  things like 'not pissing off the people you need to make a deal with' are generally considered 'basic level' politics 101 kind stuff.


Yea, it's almost as if politics have nothing to do with running a business.

This turd blossom is used to being pandered to by sycophants or people looking to get paid.
 
2018-01-16 06:40:17 AM  

Weaver95: How does trump intend to avoid a full government shut down now that he's tanked even the thought of a discussion on a deal AND doubled down on the racism to boot....?

trump still seems to think he's dealing from a position of strength.  I don't think he's realized yet how precarious his position really is these days.


The Freedom Caucus gang whispering in his ear WANT a government shutdown.
 
2018-01-16 06:40:47 AM  
I actually find this tidbit from the article more interesting:
At one point, Graham told Trump he should use different language to discuss immigration, people briefed on the meeting said.

Spinelike bone discovered.
 
2018-01-16 06:41:37 AM  

fusillade762: Trump said he didn't care about CBC's demands

Well no more Murdoch Mysteries or Schitt's Creek for him!


He never liked Schitt's Creek. Clueless rich people losing everything is way too scary for him.
 
2018-01-16 06:41:44 AM  

Next week's Tom Sawyer: I mean Trump is certainly a racist and has done nothing to hide it.

But telling the CBC to go fark themselves isn't, itself, racist.

Unless he called them a bunch of attractive and successful African-Amer​icans, in which case...it is racist.


So n/a/g/g/e/r/s now gets auto switched to "attractive and successful African-Americans. That's hilarious.
 
2018-01-16 06:41:47 AM  
Remember his last gaff with the CBC?

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It's not racist to assume all black people know each other.  I mean, that's just a commonly-known fact, right?
 
2018-01-16 06:43:18 AM  
You could tell from the video of the photo op trump didn't give a shiat. It wasn't a fire truck or a semi for him to play in or a golf course.
 
2018-01-16 06:43:35 AM  

Circusdog320: Side note: the other day did Stephen Miller really say Trump Force One about a plane Trump was on? Thanks, now back to  SFSDFD


I caught that too. Someone explained he was referring to the campaign travel- which, fine - and stopped my head from completely exploding but.  BUT. EW
 
2018-01-16 06:45:48 AM  

holyflurkingschnitt: Circusdog320: Side note: the other day did Stephen Miller really say Trump Force One about a plane Trump was on? Thanks, now back to  SFSDFD

I caught that too. Someone explained he was referring to the campaign travel- which, fine - and stopped my head from completely exploding but.  BUT. EW


I don't think a sitting president uses anything but air force one to travel by plane.
 
2018-01-16 06:48:45 AM  
Stephen Miller is Sauron to Trump's Morgoth
 
2018-01-16 06:49:09 AM  
He claims to be the least racist person, ever. So, imagine how bad he would be if he was a racist.  Like the kind of guy who lost two housing discrimination lawsuits, or who's dad got picked up at a Klan rally.
 
2018-01-16 06:49:43 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: holyflurkingschnitt: Circusdog320: Side note: the other day did Stephen Miller really say Trump Force One about a plane Trump was on? Thanks, now back to  SFSDFD

I caught that too. Someone explained he was referring to the campaign travel- which, fine - and stopped my head from completely exploding but.  BUT. EW

I don't think a sitting president uses anything but air force one to travel by plane.


pre- sitting. During the campaign. Miller called it Trump Force one in that tapper interview where he got kicked off. I thought he was referring to Air Force one - was told he meant trumps plane in 2016.
 
2018-01-16 06:51:05 AM  

Weaver95: for someone who often claims to be the best negotiator in the history of ever, trump sure does fail to grasp the basics of politics.  things like 'not pissing off the people you need to make a deal with' are generally considered 'basic level' politics 101 kind stuff.


Trump's idea of "negotiation" is dealing with contractors he's stiffing, ex-employees he's firing or threatening, and local governments he's buffaloing.

His idea of "negotiation" is based on dazzling them with bullshiat up front, then intimidation and legal threats afterward. . .and that doesn't exactly fly with Congress or foreign governments.

Turns out it's a lot harder to "negotiate" with a hostile Congress or foreign countries than it is with a local government who you've dazzled into letting you build a casino, or with some contractors you're refusing to pay, or a disgruntled ex employee who wants to violate the NDA you made him sign. . .

. . .who knew Presidenting could be so hard?
 
2018-01-16 06:54:39 AM  

fusillade762: Trump said he didn't care about CBC's demands

Well no more Murdoch Mysteries or Schitt's Creek for him!


Yeah, Hubert T. Lacroix is going to fire off an angry apology, possibly covered in maple syrup.
 
2018-01-16 06:56:55 AM  

Weaver95: for someone who often claims to be the best negotiator in the history of ever, trump sure does fail to grasp the basics of politics.  things like 'not pissing off the people you need to make a deal with' are generally considered 'basic level' politics 101 kind stuff.


Trump's "negotiating" is bullying people who need to be in a deal with him due to a power differential l.e. Contractors, small businesses, etc. Trump has trouble dealing with others as equals or doing give and take.
 
2018-01-16 06:58:52 AM  

Snarfangel: fusillade762: Trump said he didn't care about CBC's demands

Well no more Murdoch Mysteries or Schitt's Creek for him!

Yeah, Hubert T. Lacroix is going to fire off an angry apology, possibly covered in maple syrup.


I can't see the letters 'CBC' without hearing...

"Oh come back, brave Canadians,
To before you had TV..."
 
2018-01-16 07:00:22 AM  
Actually, it might have been funny if he had said "...except for Canada, which is a real Schitt's Creek."

/well, surprising at least, coming from an idiot.
 
2018-01-16 07:01:28 AM  

holyflurkingschnitt: Peter von Nostrand: holyflurkingschnitt: Circusdog320: Side note: the other day did Stephen Miller really say Trump Force One about a plane Trump was on? Thanks, now back to  SFSDFD

I caught that too. Someone explained he was referring to the campaign travel- which, fine - and stopped my head from completely exploding but.  BUT. EW

I don't think a sitting president uses anything but air force one to travel by plane.

pre- sitting. During the campaign. Miller called it Trump Force one in that tapper interview where he got kicked off. I thought he was referring to Air Force one - was told he meant trumps plane in 2016.


Ah, okay. Thanks.
 
2018-01-16 07:01:43 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: holyflurkingschnitt: Circusdog320: Side note: the other day did Stephen Miller really say Trump Force One about a plane Trump was on? Thanks, now back to  SFSDFD

I caught that too. Someone explained he was referring to the campaign travel- which, fine - and stopped my head from completely exploding but.  BUT. EW

I don't think a sitting president uses anything but air force one to travel by plane.


IIRC, any fixed-wing aircraft used to carry the President is given the designation "Air Force One".

Helicopters are designated "Marine One" under the same circumstances.
 
2018-01-16 07:02:34 AM  

MLWS: Weaver95: for someone who often claims to be the best negotiator in the history of ever, trump sure does fail to grasp the basics of politics.  things like 'not pissing off the people you need to make a deal with' are generally considered 'basic level' politics 101 kind stuff.

Yea, it's almost as if politics have nothing to do with running a business.

This turd blossom is used to being pandered to by sycophants or people looking to get paid.


To be fair, there are LOTS of politics inside a well run business, but there should be no business in politics. It's not how politics work.
 
2018-01-16 07:03:19 AM  

FatherChaos: Remember his last gaff with the CBC?

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It's not racist to assume all black people know each other.  I mean, that's just a commonly-known fact, right?


It's not racist to assume April Ryan is tight with the cbc.  That said, it was a stupid thing to request of a reporter.
 
2018-01-16 07:04:53 AM  

Jeff73: Stephen Miller is Sauron to Trump's Morgoth


Stephen Miller is Natasha to 45's Boris.

Wait. Reverse that.
 
2018-01-16 07:05:10 AM  
And yet, even with this attitude, some Congressional Democrats are eager to $trike deal$ with Republican$.
 
2018-01-16 07:05:48 AM  

fusillade762: Trump said he didn't care about CBC's demands

Well no more Murdoch Mysteries or Schitt's Creek for him!


Maybe we can get Don Cherry to kick his ass
 
2018-01-16 07:06:23 AM  

Deathbymeteor: elicopters are designated "Marine One" under the same circumstances.


If it's a Marine helicopter. I don't know the last time the President traveled in a non-Marine helicopter, but there is an Army One at the Nixon library.
 
2018-01-16 07:06:38 AM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: And yet, even with this attitude, some Congressional Democrats are eager to $trike deal$ with Republican$.


You go into negotiations with the colleagues you have, not the colleagues you wish you had.
 
2018-01-16 07:06:43 AM  
If you wanted to go totally glass half full with him, you could try to make the argument that it's not minorities he hates, but anyone who's not able to immediately increase his money or fame.  Let's not pretend he's respectful to white people either.

I'm not sure that's an argument to suggest he's a better person though.  "He's the worst person on Earth" isn't exactly a ringing endorsement.
 
2018-01-16 07:09:08 AM  
I'm not sure how the Republican brand could get more toxic at this point.

Republicans... old white men lying to your face while raping your daughters, shooting minorities, deporting children, and taking away your healthcare... for Jesus!
 
2018-01-16 07:09:18 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: holyflurkingschnitt: Circusdog320: Side note: the other day did Stephen Miller really say Trump Force One about a plane Trump was on? Thanks, now back to  SFSDFD

I caught that too. Someone explained he was referring to the campaign travel- which, fine - and stopped my head from completely exploding but.  BUT. EW

I don't think a sitting president uses anything but air force one to travel by plane.


Technically correct, which is the best kind of correct.
 
2018-01-16 07:09:20 AM  

jaytkay: Deathbymeteor: elicopters are designated "Marine One" under the same circumstances.

If it's a Marine helicopter. I don't know the last time the President traveled in a non-Marine helicopter, but there is an Army One at the Nixon library.


Trump would never put himself at risk in a war zone, which is the most likely place he would be in an Army helicopter. That's why he has Jared and I'm Eric.
 
2018-01-16 07:09:41 AM  

LL316: If you wanted to go totally glass half full with him, you could try to make the argument that it's not minorities he hates, but anyone who's not able to immediately increase his money or fame.  Let's not pretend he's respectful to white people either.

I'm not sure that's an argument to suggest he's a better person though.  "He's the worst person on Earth" isn't exactly a ringing endorsement.


The whole point of the highly technical "is he racist" argument is to deflect attention from his blatantly obvious horribleness as a human being and worthlessness as a President.
 
2018-01-16 07:10:33 AM  
For someone who's not a racist, Trump sure does say a lot of racist things.
 
2018-01-16 07:10:36 AM  

jaytkay: Deathbymeteor: elicopters are designated "Marine One" under the same circumstances.

If it's a Marine helicopter. I don't know the last time the President traveled in a non-Marine helicopter, but there is an Army One at the Nixon library.


Huh, I always kinda wondered if Army One was a tank or armoured transport, but according to Wiki, it was the helicopter used by the Army until 1976 when the Marines took over sole responsibility for that.  (They split responsibility before that)

Army One per Wiki
 
2018-01-16 07:12:14 AM  
Donald J. Trump is the least racist person you've ever met
Youtube rWjbEsIHmbY
 
2018-01-16 07:12:19 AM  
Oh the mighty shock of it all. I don't know if I can recover from this presidential transgression. I wish I had a fainting couch.
 
2018-01-16 07:12:22 AM  
We have an asshouse problem in the Whitehole.

\ credit Colbert
 
2018-01-16 07:12:46 AM  

jso2897: LL316: If you wanted to go totally glass half full with him, you could try to make the argument that it's not minorities he hates, but anyone who's not able to immediately increase his money or fame.  Let's not pretend he's respectful to white people either.

I'm not sure that's an argument to suggest he's a better person though.  "He's the worst person on Earth" isn't exactly a ringing endorsement.

The whole point of the highly technical "is he racist" argument is to deflect attention from his blatantly obvious horribleness as a human being and worthlessness as a President.


Very true.  Being racist, being a predator, being a grifter, etc all fall under the umbrella of being a d!ck.
 
2018-01-16 07:15:15 AM  

Silverstaff: Weaver95: for someone who often claims to be the best negotiator in the history of ever, trump sure does fail to grasp the basics of politics.  things like 'not pissing off the people you need to make a deal with' are generally considered 'basic level' politics 101 kind stuff.

Trump's idea of "negotiation" is dealing with contractors he's stiffing, ex-employees he's firing or threatening, and local governments he's buffaloing.

His idea of "negotiation" is based on dazzling them with bullshiat up front, then intimidation and legal threats afterward. . .and that doesn't exactly fly with Congress or foreign governments.

Turns out it's a lot harder to "negotiate" with a hostile Congress or foreign countries than it is with a local government who you've dazzled into letting you build a casino, or with some contractors you're refusing to pay, or a disgruntled ex employee who wants to violate the NDA you made him sign. . .

. . .who knew Presidenting could be so hard?


Hillary.
 
2018-01-16 07:15:18 AM  

skubwa: Oh the mighty shock of it all. I don't know if I can recover from this presidential transgression. I wish I had a fainting couch.


Just because we have thick skins doesn't mean our eyes have to be closed.
 
2018-01-16 07:15:38 AM  

Mister Peejay: Peter von Nostrand: holyflurkingschnitt: Circusdog320: Side note: the other day did Stephen Miller really say Trump Force One about a plane Trump was on? Thanks, now back to  SFSDFD

I caught that too. Someone explained he was referring to the campaign travel- which, fine - and stopped my head from completely exploding but.  BUT. EW

I don't think a sitting president uses anything but air force one to travel by plane.

Technically correct, which is the best kind of correct.


Air Force One is a call sign or designation, it is not the name of a plane. Technically any aircraft carrying the President will hold the designation/call sign "[branch of military operating aircraft] One".

In the movie Air Force One, when Harrison Ford makes it to the other plane, the pilot changes the designation to Air Force One to indicate this. As far-fetched as the stunt was, that part is actually what would have happened.

Also, the Vice Presidential designation is [branch of service] Two. If Pence uses one of the Presidential planes to travel overseas, it will hold the designation Air Force Two.
 
2018-01-16 07:16:33 AM  

Weaver95: How does trump intend to avoid a full government shut down now that he's tanked even the thought of a discussion on a deal AND doubled down on the racism to boot....?

trump still seems to think he's dealing from a position of strength.  I don't think he's realized yet how precarious his position really is these days.


I think you need a safe space.  But congratulations.  It looks like your authoritarianism paid off.

And Haiti? yah, it's a very undesirable place to live.  very.  And you know it.
 
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