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2018-01-13 01:20:20 PM  
Yet another example of Millennial Privilege, but they'll deny it and act offended when you point it out.
 
2018-01-13 02:10:07 PM  
It's almost like being arrested in today's world has real implications.
 
2018-01-13 02:12:30 PM  
My kids are millennials, and in fact they seem a lot more conventional and law-abiding than I was at their ages.

When I was 19, I quit my full-ride scholarship, bought a hundred-dollar car and moved to Mexico.

Then I got drafted and sent to Vietnam.  Still wish I'd had the balls to go to Canada.

So glad my children are smarter than me.
 
2018-01-13 02:14:35 PM  
When my parents were in their 20s, in the 1960s, an arrest was an inconvenience, but it was pretty easy, especially if away from home, to pretend like it never happened.

When I was in my 20s, in the 1990s, an arrest was a pain to deal with, and could be tracked down if someone really searched for it.

Now, an arrest shows up in someone's social network, and mugshots are scattered all over the internet.

In a pretty real way, an arrest is now a much stickier and compromising event than it used to be. I would be more careful these days than 20 years ago.
 
2018-01-13 02:28:41 PM  
Lots of factors probably contributed, but electronics and the internet are probably large drivers of it.  Guys are traditionally more likely to get arrested that women are, as are younger people.  In the past 10-20 years, gaming has become more common and internet porn has become largely free and ubiquitous.  So rather than going out and getting into trouble with the law, especially for minor stupid shiat, more young guys are home with their mouse in one hand and their joystick in the other.  That's the diversion part.

The other part is arrests and convictions can fark with your college career and student loans.  That may discourage risky behavior in some folks.
 
2018-01-13 03:51:17 PM  
Millennials are not terrible. That's just a lie spread by their jailbird ne'er-do-well parents.
 
2018-01-13 03:51:45 PM  
How the hell do you get arrested when all you do all day is play XBox and watch Youtube videos?
 
2018-01-13 03:54:57 PM  
Kids rebel against whatever their parents were into. I'm glad my kid has made it to college without exhibiting any significant antisocial behavior but if that trait skips a generation any offspring he has will have the potential to be hell on wheels.
 
2018-01-13 03:57:55 PM  
And I assume they think they invented the idea of being a law abiding citizen.
 
2018-01-13 03:59:22 PM  
To defend our parents (I'm in than newly named Xennial thingamabob), our parents' generation would get arrested for misdemeanor simple possession (you know, that thing the Keebler Elf wants to bring back), which probably drove the arrest rate up.
 
2018-01-13 04:02:22 PM  
wtf is a millennial again
am i a millennial
what is a hipster
are people not mad at hipsters anymore
 
2018-01-13 04:04:52 PM  
Kids may be better or worse than their parents, but one thing will remain consistent, older generations will decry younger generations ( and vice versa).  The "greatest generation" were wild flappers.  Baby boomers were hippies etc.  And each generation thought that the older generation just didn't understand.  In twenty years, millennials will be making the same complaints about the next generation.
 
2018-01-13 04:10:28 PM  
Well of course we got arrested a hell of a lot more back in the day. There wasn't anything to keep us inside, so we went out in the wild and stirred up shiat. Like it's been mentioned, there's a lot more to being arrested now than 30 years ago
 
2018-01-13 04:15:15 PM  
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2018-01-13 04:15:23 PM  
The switch to unleaded gas is a major difference.
 
2018-01-13 04:25:06 PM  

Bowen: [statista.com image 850x631]


Bbbbut, Chicago!
 
2018-01-13 04:25:15 PM  

Norad: Well of course we got arrested a hell of a lot more back in the day. There wasn't anything to keep us inside, so we went out in the wild and stirred up shiat. Like it's been mentioned, there's a lot more to being arrested now than 30 years ago


The things we did back then would get kids shot these days.
 
2018-01-13 04:31:11 PM  

beezeltown: When my parents were in their 20s, in the 1960s, an arrest was an inconvenience, but it was pretty easy, especially if away from home, to pretend like it never happened.

When I was in my 20s, in the 1990s, an arrest was a pain to deal with, and could be tracked down if someone really searched for it.

Now, an arrest shows up in someone's social network, and mugshots are scattered all over the internet.

In a pretty real way, an arrest is now a much stickier and compromising event than it used to be. I would be more careful these days than 20 years ago.


Yup.  And if phone video cameras had existed when I was in college, in the 90s, I'd probably still be unemployable today
 
2018-01-13 04:32:46 PM  
This headline gives me a headache. An angry headache.
 
2018-01-13 04:34:56 PM  

germ78: The switch to unleaded gas is a major difference.


And also getting lead paint out of houses.  Lead really does a number to kids' brains.

I mention that the violent crime rate is half of what it was when I was a kid and people look at me like I'm crazy.   They just can't get their minds off the flute recital long enough to think of the implications.
 
2018-01-13 04:37:44 PM  

chitownmike: Bowen: [statista.com image 850x631]

Bbbbut, Chicago!


You ever been to my city? Ain't no Chi-raq.
 
2018-01-13 04:37:48 PM  

The Jami Turman Fan Club: germ78: The switch to unleaded gas is a major difference.

And also getting lead paint out of houses.  Lead really does a number to kids' brains.

I mention that the violent crime rate is half of what it was when I was a kid and people look at me like I'm crazy.   They just can't get their minds off the flute recital long enough to think of the implications.


When i mention this as well i also throw in the factoid about the research paper linked here on fark in early 2017/late 2016 or some time that links heavy lead poisoning with brain damage, specifically in the areas of the brain that govern for empathy.

I'd say an inability to feel any kind of empathy due to damaged hardware would have a pretty direct correlation with violent crime.
 
2018-01-13 04:38:49 PM  
They're not terrible, they're just boring.  Instead of cigarettes they smoke vapes that taste like breakfast ceral.  Instead of booze they drink energy drinks.  Someone needs to teach them how to rebel.
 
2018-01-13 04:44:47 PM  

IbiEvacua: chitownmike: Bowen: [statista.com image 850x631]

Bbbbut, Chicago!

You ever been to my city? Ain't no Chi-raq.


i went there
it was too farking cold
probably never going back
 
2018-01-13 04:50:36 PM  

Bowen: [statista.com image 850x631]


I assume the recent slight uptick is opiod-related?
 
2018-01-13 04:51:43 PM  

The Jami Turman Fan Club: They just can't get their minds off the flute recital long enough to think of the implications.


Is THAT what kids call it these days?
 
2018-01-13 04:51:50 PM  
We'd have been arrested a lot more if cell phone cameras we're around. Suck it millenials. You wanted a super connected interactive world where you can be 24hr voyeurs. Ya got it. .
 
2018-01-13 04:52:47 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Bowen: [statista.com image 850x631]

I assume the recent slight uptick is opiod-related?


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2018-01-13 04:53:21 PM  

germ78: The switch to unleaded gas is a major difference.


Yup. Don't forget cutting back on DDT. Everyone in my generation Still carries some around in our nervous system and fat. Millennials  not so much.
 
2018-01-13 04:55:39 PM  
But they die far more often trying to get that perfect selfie.
Die those sweet sweet Darwin deaths.
 
2018-01-13 04:57:48 PM  

Deece: They're not terrible, they're just boring.  Instead of cigarettes they smoke vapes that taste like breakfast ceral.  Instead of booze they drink energy drinks.  Someone needs to teach them how to rebel.


They teach me a calm sensibility I totally lacked when I was their age. Sometimes it comes off as smug or dispassionate. But when you work with them like I do, as boat crew, I've learned that they are on average just basically more decent than I was at their age.

Not perfect or even better educated necessarily. Just more decent.
 
2018-01-13 05:02:46 PM  

yohohogreengiant: Deece: They're not terrible, they're just boring.  Instead of cigarettes they smoke vapes that taste like breakfast ceral.  Instead of booze they drink energy drinks.  Someone needs to teach them how to rebel.

They teach me a calm sensibility I totally lacked when I was their age. Sometimes it comes off as smug or dispassionate. But when you work with them like I do, as boat crew, I've learned that they are on average just basically more decent than I was at their age.

Not perfect or even better educated necessarily. Just more decent.


Wait until they turn one you.
You'll say or do something that offends them.
And they'll make it a mission to ruin you.
Get you boycotted / fired, harass you and your family.

Why some of them may even go online to forums, twitter etc and announce that you've been added to their ignore list.
 
2018-01-13 05:13:19 PM  
Interestingly, I just read this article this morning. Kamala Harris was in on the ground floor of the justice reform in California in the mid to late 90s:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2​0​18/01/the-secret-to-understanding-kama​la-harris/
 
2018-01-13 05:14:43 PM  
My little cousin once asked me if I'd ever been arrested. I thought that was a weird question. I'm the last person who'd do something illegal. Then I remembered that a common plot point on 80s and 90s sitcoms was teenagers getting arrested.
 
2018-01-13 05:21:00 PM  
Lead paint is right. And lack of sticks.

George Carlin - Sit there with a fucking stick
Youtube o-8NlY1Iw_g
 
2018-01-13 05:32:24 PM  
As a parent of millennials, I know why... good parenting.

If your kid does something right, it is always good parenting. If they screw up, blame society.
 
2018-01-13 05:33:20 PM  

The Jami Turman Fan Club: germ78: The switch to unleaded gas is a major difference.

And also getting lead paint out of houses.  Lead really does a number to kids' brains.


And also

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2018-01-13 05:36:08 PM  
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2018-01-13 06:08:33 PM  

PaceyWhitter: Kids may be better or worse than their parents, but one thing will remain consistent, older generations will decry younger generations ( and vice versa).  The "greatest generation" were wild flappers.  Baby boomers were hippies etc.  And each generation thought that the older generation just didn't understand.  In twenty years, millennials will be making the same complaints about the next generation.


As malicious as today's millenials are, that thought is frightening.
 
2018-01-13 06:19:21 PM  
Probably from all that lead paint you guys were chewing on, stunted your logic and reasoning. Womp womp
 
2018-01-13 06:25:46 PM  
I don't recall every hearing about someone getting arrested when I was a teen. Back then, if you got caught smoking, drinking, or doing most anything else, the worst that would happen is the cops would take you home and let your parents deal with you.

These days, they do much the same thing, except they also write a citation for whatever the kid did. This must then be dealt with in the juvenile court system, which will usually results in supervised probation and maybe some community service.

So while kids may be getting arrested less, they get cited for damn near anything they do wrong and get a juvenile record in the process.
 
2018-01-13 06:54:38 PM  
The long term consequences of a misdemeanor arrest today are more damaging than a Felony arrest in the 1980s.

This isn't a bug, it's a feature.  They police want to ruin your lives so that you can't compete against their dullard children.
 
2018-01-13 06:57:17 PM  

wademh: [img.fark.net image 500x500]
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Piracy is down too, so I imagine that washing your hands kills pirates.
 
2018-01-13 06:57:52 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Bowen: [statista.com image 850x631]

I assume the recent slight uptick is opiod-related?


Dunno. I couldn't find one that went through 2017 but crime ticked down a bit. Same type of thing happened around 2004-6.
 
2018-01-13 07:13:56 PM  
The reason is that they have no balls. Millennials take about as much risk as 90 year old ladies. They are bland.  Like white rice.
 
2018-01-13 07:24:45 PM  
It's because now cops are too busy shooting minorities, amirite?
 
2018-01-13 07:25:41 PM  

UNC_Samurai: I assume the recent slight uptick is opiod-related?


Legalized marijuana. It's turning people into violent homicidal monsters.
 
2018-01-13 07:37:46 PM  

The Jami Turman Fan Club: germ78: The switch to unleaded gas is a major difference.

And also getting lead paint out of houses.  Lead really does a number to kids' brains.

I mention that the violent crime rate is half of what it was when I was a kid and people look at me like I'm crazy.   They just can't get their minds off the flute recital long enough to think of the implications.


Now you get why Flint water is such a big deal?  No one should think we want a violent city.

On another point, I'm glad the inter webs is improving public shaming towards a better world.
 
2018-01-13 07:40:45 PM  
Well, background checks might be a farking part of it. Most jobs have at least a basic background check involved. My career path involves deep background checks with, like, FBI involved and shiat. You can't hold a job if your background sucks.

Which of course is another problem. It limits the ability of those that have offended to establish a normal life, meaning there's a higher chance they'll reoffend.

/see Ant-Man for details
 
2018-01-13 08:09:51 PM  

LoneWolf343: wademh: [img.fark.net image 500x500]
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Piracy is down too, so I imagine that washing your hands kills pirates.


Unless you study pharmacology and toxicology and understand the direct relationship between the antibacterial agents and testosterone. Which I have.
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