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2018-01-13 01:13:53 PM  
If the goal is to make everything only offensive to officially approved groups only, the carry on.

Here's my rule of thumb for entertainment:  if I don't like it, I don't watch it.

Works better than trying to tell people what YOU should be allowed to watch.
 
2018-01-13 01:35:26 PM  
Gee, sorry the whole concept of thinking before acting is so tough.

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2018-01-13 01:36:56 PM  
Just when you thought Hollywood movies had become incredibly bland in the writing department...
 
2018-01-13 01:38:32 PM  
yep, all those brave heroes who kept silent for years while others were getting their membership cards stamped.

truly a noble cause.
 
2018-01-13 01:38:46 PM  
And least she acknowledges that you have to understand how people were taught.
 
2018-01-13 01:41:45 PM  

gar1013: If the goal is to make everything only offensive to officially approved groups only, the carry on.

Here's my rule of thumb for entertainment:  if I don't like it, I don't watch it.

Works better than trying to tell people what YOU should be allowed to watch.


Who is telling people what they should be allowed to watch?
 
2018-01-13 01:43:05 PM  
What subby said in the headline. Less assholery is always better than more. If you're worried about being called an asshole, the correct next step is to find out if you are, actually, an asshole. If it turns out that you're being an asshole, cut that crap out. Thanks.
 
2018-01-13 01:43:25 PM  
So now we can look forward to fourth generation reboots, umpteen sequels, AND tepid, watered down jokes?

What an age to be alive!
 
2018-01-13 01:53:01 PM  

someonelse: gar1013: If the goal is to make everything only offensive to officially approved groups only, the carry on.

Here's my rule of thumb for entertainment:  if I don't like it, I don't watch it.

Works better than trying to tell people what YOU should be allowed to watch.

Who is telling people what they should be allowed to watch?


It's not tell YOU what you can't watch.

It's telling the writers what YOU can't watch.

Think of 3.2% beer. The law isn't prohibiting you from drinking something stronger. It's prohibiting someone from letting choose to consume stronger beer.
 
2018-01-13 01:55:12 PM  
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2018-01-13 01:58:14 PM  
I, for one, look forward to the death of comedy.
 
2018-01-13 01:58:29 PM  
If you're worried your joke is going to go over poorly, it wasn't a good joke to begin with. This only matters if you're a shiat writer.
 
2018-01-13 02:10:05 PM  
I heard this interview with a baseball umpire of some renown and the question came up about what someone had to say to get ejected from a baseball game.  He hemmed and hawed a little about how there is no real magic word and that he's heard every form of profanity and that isn't it.  He finally said that the real magic word, if there is one, is "you."  Once someone moved from cursing about the call to cursing about you as a person or an official, they were out.

This, it seems, is a reasonable line to draw in the writer's room.  Talk about Blink and Blank and how "chicks Whamo" all you want, but when you turn it to one of the women in the room, that's when you have problems.  The separation of character from person comes up here, even if it's something like The Sarah Silverman Show that is very close to working off an actual person for the jokes.  Sarah Silverman is playing a part of a person named Sarah Silverman.

I don't have a ton of sympathy for the people who cross that line or can't handle line crossers as a professional and an adult.  Death is easy, Comedy is hard.
 
2018-01-13 02:10:34 PM  
"triggering"

DRINK!
 
2018-01-13 02:15:18 PM  

adamgreeney: If you're worried your joke is going to go over poorly, it wasn't a good joke to begin with. This only matters if you're a shiat writer.


What if you're a shiatty writer w/ too much confidence? You know, like CBS writers?
 
2018-01-13 02:15:37 PM  

gar1013: someonelse: gar1013: If the goal is to make everything only offensive to officially approved groups only, the carry on.

Here's my rule of thumb for entertainment:  if I don't like it, I don't watch it.

Works better than trying to tell people what YOU should be allowed to watch.

Who is telling people what they should be allowed to watch?

It's not tell YOU what you can't watch.

It's telling the writers what YOU can't watch.

Think of 3.2% beer. The law isn't prohibiting you from drinking something stronger. It's prohibiting someone from letting choose to consume stronger beer.


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2018-01-13 02:17:57 PM  

gar1013: If the goal is to make everything only offensive to officially approved groups only, the carry on.

Here's my rule of thumb for entertainment:  if I don't like it, I don't watch it.

Works better than trying to tell people what YOU should be allowed to watch.


It's hilarious how you miss the point by galactic margins.
 
2018-01-13 02:18:03 PM  

MisterMook: I, for one, look forward to the death of comedy.


I guess you haven't seen Jack & Jill.
 
2018-01-13 02:22:02 PM  

Trocadero: adamgreeney: If you're worried your joke is going to go over poorly, it wasn't a good joke to begin with. This only matters if you're a shiat writer.

What if you're a shiatty writer w/ too much confidence? You know, like CBS writers?


Your post is funnier than anything I've seen on CBS, without a doubt.
 
2018-01-13 02:35:59 PM  
If I wanted to watch some limp-dick, PC non-comedy I'd watch Colbert, Seth Meyers or visit the Fark main page or politics tab.
 
2018-01-13 02:38:23 PM  
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2018-01-13 02:43:01 PM  

StrikitRich: If I wanted to watch some limp-dick, PC non-comedy I'd watch Colbert, Seth Meyers or visit the Fark main page or politics tab.


Bless your heart.
 
2018-01-13 02:47:31 PM  
A lot of people in this thread haven't seen Mike Birbiglia's latest special Thank God For Jokes.
 
2018-01-13 02:52:38 PM  

StrikitRich: If I wanted to watch some limp-dick, PC non-comedy I'd watch Colbert, Seth Meyers or visit the Fark main page or politics tab.


Edgy, bro, edgy.
 
2018-01-13 03:00:49 PM  
Nice Beaver!!!!
 
2018-01-13 03:12:38 PM  
I'm torn, because I like telling jokes that are probably offensive, and there is a line.

Like Deon Cole said that he was pulling off little pills of fabric on his sweater, and one of the other writers at the Conan show said he was "picking cotton." Deon Cole's black btw.

Like that's kind of a farked up thing to say to somebody. The way Cole told it, he didn't even sound upset, probably because man that guy's standup is all kinds of offensive to women.
 
2018-01-13 03:27:43 PM  

MisterMook: I, for one, look forward to the death of comedy.


If you need to rely on sexually degrading humor, you were never funny to begin with.  George Carlin could go for hours without making a dick joke
 
2018-01-13 03:31:56 PM  

Flappyhead: MisterMook: I, for one, look forward to the death of comedy.

If you need to rely on sexually degrading humor, you were never funny to begin with.  George Carlin could go for hours without making a dick joke


Did he ever make a dick joke? Was it funny?
 
2018-01-13 03:33:23 PM  
George Carlin - War is prick-waving (The bigger dick foreign policy theory)
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Thong_of_Zardoz: Flappyhead: MisterMook: I, for one, look forward to the death of comedy.

If you need to rely on sexually degrading humor, you were never funny to begin with.  George Carlin could go for hours without making a dick joke

Did he ever make a dick joke? Was it funny?

 
2018-01-13 03:45:41 PM  

Flappyhead: MisterMook: I, for one, look forward to the death of comedy.

If you need to rely on sexually degrading humor, you were never funny to begin with.  George Carlin could go for hours without making a dick joke


Yeah, I feel like Carlin made plenty of dick jokes.  And if he were here he'd tell you you're wrong and you should feel bad.
 
2018-01-13 03:55:11 PM  

Deece: Flappyhead: MisterMook: I, for one, look forward to the death of comedy.

If you need to rely on sexually degrading humor, you were never funny to begin with.  George Carlin could go for hours without making a dick joke

Yeah, I feel like Carlin made plenty of dick jokes.  And if he were here he'd tell you you're wrong and you should feel bad.


I never said he didn't make them, I said he could tell jokes for hours without making them.
 
2018-01-13 04:05:09 PM  

Flappyhead: Deece: Flappyhead: MisterMook: I, for one, look forward to the death of comedy.

If you need to rely on sexually degrading humor, you were never funny to begin with.  George Carlin could go for hours without making a dick joke

Yeah, I feel like Carlin made plenty of dick jokes.  And if he were here he'd tell you you're wrong and you should feel bad.

I never said he didn't make them, I said he could tell jokes for hours without making them.


He also told us that lots of groups enjoyed trying to dictate which words we can and can't say because that's how you control thought.
 
2018-01-13 04:08:30 PM  

Flappyhead: Deece: Flappyhead: MisterMook: I, for one, look forward to the death of comedy.

If you need to rely on sexually degrading humor, you were never funny to begin with.  George Carlin could go for hours without making a dick joke

Yeah, I feel like Carlin made plenty of dick jokes.  And if he were here he'd tell you you're wrong and you should feel bad.

I never said he didn't make them, I said he could tell jokes for hours without making them.


So what's your point, then?

He could do a solid hour without making airplane food jokes, too.  What does that prove?
 
2018-01-13 04:09:26 PM  

adamgreeney: If you're worried your joke is going to go over poorly, it wasn't a good joke to begin with. This only matters if you're a shiat writer.


I disagree, at least as far as stand up goes (which I know is only adjacent to the conversation here). shiatty hacks tell shiatty jokes with absolutely no sense of self awareness and don't care that their "hilarious" rape joke didn't get a laugh. Good writers write a ton of jokes and some of the ones you don't think are going to work, do - while others that you think are great come across badly. You learn to edit yourself, and get a better idea of what will and won't work, and where the line is, but there is still a good percentage of performing that is just putting stuff out there and learning off of the reactions.
 
2018-01-13 04:10:26 PM  

someonelse: gar1013: If the goal is to make everything only offensive to officially approved groups only, the carry on.

Here's my rule of thumb for entertainment:  if I don't like it, I don't watch it.

Works better than trying to tell people what YOU should be allowed to watch.

Who is telling people what they should be allowed to watch?


you serious man?
the FCC
every production company
every network or cable channel
the MPAA
whoever's behind that TV-Y7 crap
rotten tomatoes, metacritic
regular critics
any rail thin yuppy from brooklyn
any fatass comic book guy from georgia
the people who pulled louis ck's movie
whoever scrubbed the flag off of dukes of hazzard reruns
regular movie theaters
schlocky movie theaters that do singalongs or play old movies

like
farking everybody
 
2018-01-13 04:13:54 PM  

adamgreeney: If you're worried your joke is going to go over poorly, it wasn't a good joke to begin with. This only matters if you're a shiat writer.


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2018-01-13 04:22:36 PM  

Deece: Flappyhead: Deece: Flappyhead: MisterMook: I, for one, look forward to the death of comedy.

If you need to rely on sexually degrading humor, you were never funny to begin with.  George Carlin could go for hours without making a dick joke

Yeah, I feel like Carlin made plenty of dick jokes.  And if he were here he'd tell you you're wrong and you should feel bad.

I never said he didn't make them, I said he could tell jokes for hours without making them.

So what's your point, then?

He could do a solid hour without making airplane food jokes, too.  What does that prove?


That you don't need dick jokes?
 
2018-01-13 04:35:42 PM  

Bslim: Deece: Flappyhead: Deece: Flappyhead: MisterMook: I, for one, look forward to the death of comedy.

If you need to rely on sexually degrading humor, you were never funny to begin with.  George Carlin could go for hours without making a dick joke

Yeah, I feel like Carlin made plenty of dick jokes.  And if he were here he'd tell you you're wrong and you should feel bad.

I never said he didn't make them, I said he could tell jokes for hours without making them.

So what's your point, then?

He could do a solid hour without making airplane food jokes, too.  What does that prove?

That you don't need dick jokes?


"Need's" got nothing to do with it
 
2018-01-13 04:42:42 PM  
Richard Pryor: Is It Something I Said? (Captions)
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2018-01-13 04:46:29 PM  
Lenny Bruce on Southerners, Religion, Racism, Obscenity, Law, Police, Politics (1966)
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2018-01-13 05:01:03 PM  

adamgreeney: If you're worried your joke is going to go over poorly, it wasn't a good joke to begin with. This only matters if you're a shiat writer.


Holy shiat no.
This is quite possibly the worst advice of all time.
Favoring someone who's 100% confident in everything they do is how we got Trump.
So many of the things I love were made by people who doubted themselves.
 
2018-01-13 05:08:13 PM  

Flappyhead: If you need to rely on sexually degrading humor, you were never funny to begin with.


I believe this is true. There are points where it is funny, though. It just has to be done right (that is, to say, in a way that is not objectifying, or, if it is, objectifying in a way that doesn't make the targets feel like less for it, unless of course you want to lose them as an audience):
BETTER OFF TED - FUNNY, REALLY VULGAR OUTTAKES
Youtube Bh7Nz4bIwss


I am not posting as a matter of censorship here, of course. I am generally against censorship on merit. I am posting as a matter of keeping your work successful.
 
2018-01-13 05:17:13 PM  
Better Off Ted was definitely a show that managed to use, gender, etc to great effect without being offensive. Mainly because they did so by highlighting the absurdity of it.
 
2018-01-13 05:17:39 PM  
Race, gender, etc*
 
2018-01-13 05:37:26 PM  

baron von doodle: Better Off Ted was definitely a show that managed to use, gender, etc to great effect without being offensive. Mainly because they did so by highlighting the absurdity of it.


Absolutely - I feel like The Good Place has now taken up that mantle, and boy how! Same kind of clever humor, none of the kid stuff, turned up to 11.
 
2018-01-13 06:01:32 PM  
I want comedians taking risks.  The problem with this is absolutely everyone has a different idea of where the line is and someone can get offended by absolutely anything.  There's no rule book, so everyone is going around self-censoring, which is a laudable, wonderful thing in most any other walk of life, because the net effect is less jerkiness.  But not comedians; someone needs to be able to puncture the boundaries when they're getting stupid or counterproductive.  You don't need to like a joke, but you shouldn't be paralyzed by running across one that makes you uncomfortable for a minute.
 
2018-01-13 06:04:46 PM  

Leishu: Flappyhead: If you need to rely on sexually degrading humor, you were never funny to begin with.

I believe this is true. There are points where it is funny, though. It just has to be done right (that is, to say, in a way that is not objectifying, or, if it is, objectifying in a way that doesn't make the targets feel like less for it, unless of course you want to lose them as an audience):[Youtube Bh7Nz4bIwss image 480x360][Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/Bh7Nz4bI​wss]

I am not posting as a matter of censorship here, of course. I am generally against censorship on merit. I am posting as a matter of keeping your work successful.


man oh man do I miss that show! Wish they'd bring it back on Netflix or Amazon/Hulu etc....(or do something similar)
 
2018-01-13 06:05:53 PM  

Naido: I want comedians taking risks.  The problem with this is absolutely everyone has a different idea of where the line is and someone can get offended by absolutely anything.  There's no rule book, so everyone is going around self-censoring, which is a laudable, wonderful thing in most any other walk of life, because the net effect is less jerkiness.  But not comedians; someone needs to be able to puncture the boundaries when they're getting stupid or counterproductive.  You don't need to like a joke, but you shouldn't be paralyzed by running across one that makes you uncomfortable for a minute.


The good thing about all of this is that while we may be entering the dark ages for a while, there will (hopefully) eventually be a Renaissance that will spawn the next Monty Python (who would be pilloried today).
 
2018-01-13 06:29:59 PM  

Naido: I want comedians taking risks.


New flash: they don't take risks if they have any choice.

Left to their own devices they'd keep coasting on the same snickering sex jokes they ought to have left for dead in the high school locker room where they found them.

They're finding out that that won't fly anymore. Their choices are to come up with jokes that people who aren't assholes find funny or to find another line of work.
 
2018-01-13 06:31:17 PM  

MikeyFuccon: Naido: I want comedians taking risks.

New flash: they don't take risks if they have any choice.

Left to their own devices they'd keep coasting on the same snickering sex jokes they ought to have left for dead in the high school locker room where they found them.

They're finding out that that won't fly anymore. Their choices are to come up with jokes that people who aren't assholes find funny or to find another line of work.


Everything you just said is wrong.
 
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