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2018-01-12 08:03:30 PM  
25 votes:
I have a problem with the concept of cultural appropriation as trotted out by all the little pseudo-Trotskiites with their permanent revolution.Namely that it essentially meaningless and defined solely by the alleged victims or their White Knights.

Your ancestors did not have concrete, asphalt or shoes. Are you going to surrender their cultural appropriations and wear nothing but wooden clogs summer and winter? Or are you going to recognize that the truth, information, culture, music and so forth belong to those who need them, love them and respect them?

I can understand people who are black being annoyed by what white people do with their culture, but if you analyze any culture into its component atoms, it falls apart in your hands. The Blues, Gospel and Jazz had their roots in white European music as well as in Black African music. They are fusions. They have played back and forth between many cultures, even Nazi-era German hipsters. Humanity is one great big dysfunctional family and its culture belongs to us all.

You would never know any culture at all if it weren't appropriated by someone else before YOU ever heard of it.

Don't be that guy on the right or the left. Don't be that guy who speaks for other people who are perfectly capable of speaking for themselves. Don't be a twit. Just when black people are making millions selling their culture is it now taboo for white people to like the N-word music ... AGAIN?

What rock did you crawl out from under any way?

Beware of white people talking pop-psych and bureacratese.
2018-01-12 07:55:49 PM  
15 votes:
If you're not English with a rod so far up your ass that you call it your tongue, you have no business reading the Daily Mail.

Used to be Fark rarely had a DM link. But around the same time they made a push for American audiences, some nitwit took it upon themselves to spam DM links (or Drew got paid, who knows at this point). And here we are, where we get about 4-5 DM links a day. On a site where we consider ourselves media savvy, and where the webmaster once deigned to write a book about how the media takes advantage of you. Now every week is Shark Week here on Fark.
2018-01-12 09:27:55 PM  
11 votes:
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2018-01-12 07:12:57 PM  
8 votes:
I don't eat tofu on general principal because it's not meat.
2018-01-12 07:53:13 PM  
7 votes:
I now doubt the existence of tofu, vegans, vegetarians, or any person named Anna.
2018-01-12 10:52:45 PM  
6 votes:

baron von doodle: aagrajag: baron von doodle: aagrajag: baron von doodle: And pork will, in theory, tarnish the soul of a believer. I consider that a possible effect.

"Tarnish the soul"? I'm supposed to take that lunacy seriously? They need better gods in that case.

Also, I'm pretty sure that they get a pass if they consume it unknowingly, involuntarily, or by necessity.

Some faiths don't get a pass. You have to ritually clean yourself afterwards. I am secular, but I respect those of faith. Obviously alot of people here do not. Jesus said, "Don't be a dick".

They don't have to do anything. I have more consideration for an OCD sufferer who feels a compulsion to sterilise their keyboard should anyone else touch it, as they have an actual disorder.

Religious morons People of faith perform their silly rituals by choice; that's on them. There is nothing worthy of respect here.

Even more amusingly, many of the methods required to produce meat acceptable to religious freaks entails significantly more suffering for the animal. Their willful delusions cause immense amounts of utterly pointless pain. I don't respect that at all.

Just using Americans alone, there is an 89% belief in good.

http://news.gallup.com/poll/193271/ame​ricans-believe-god.aspx

I am not a believer, but dismiss them at your peril. Many of the believers are good people. In my experience, the best are Methodist. They are one of the few sects that actually read for themselves and don't blindly follow shepherds. Scoff them if you want, but we are vastly outnumbered.


Dude, stop. You just chose, of all countries, the US, an ridiculous statistical outlier in religiousity, as your example.

And no, they are usually not good people. In case you've not noticed, an overwhelming majority of problem in the US are the direct result of the religious. When you give up all critical thinking skills, you end up supporting people like this:

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I'll refrain from showing just how much love, peace and tolerance Islam has brought about.

Not all religious people are bad, but they are far more easily led into it. Amd whenever they acquire power, they start forcing their stupid laws in me. The less unearned respect and deference shown religion, the sooner mankind can move out of its infancy.
2018-01-12 09:05:53 PM  
6 votes:

RogermcAllen: At my current company we have started ordering a lot of Indian and several of the "I must have a piece of meat with every meal" jackasses don't even know the meat is missing.


So the must have a piece of meat with every meal people are jackasses but the I won't eat meat evar people aren't?
2018-01-12 07:40:56 PM  
6 votes:
I'll just jump on the bandwagon here and say the Daily Fail is not worth linking to, and their journalistic ethics are so lacking that there's a fair chance they would have made up any quotes themselves to report on them.

/DNRTFA
2018-01-13 12:18:28 PM  
4 votes:
I'm sure tofu / bean curd was eaten a long time before vegans appropriated it so...

But any way, the sane way to look at this is if someone eats a meat substitute one day a week they've cut their meat consumption by 14%. If that translated into a global figure it would have a MASSIVE impact on emissions, land use, deforestation etc.

A less unhinged vegetarian / vegan might realise that to be a good thing. They would be promoting tasty vegetarian recipes without any of the moralising or guilt tripping.
2018-01-12 09:54:28 PM  
4 votes:

RedVentrue: Crazy vegan lady appropriated first by pretending to eat turkey. No more tofurky for her.


That's the one thing that still gets me on a philosophical level. If you are against eating meat, why do you keep trying to replicate it?
2018-01-12 08:46:40 PM  
4 votes:

Skyking Skyking Do Not Answer: ecmoRandomNumbers: I mean, I get being a vegetarian or vegan for ethical reasons.

And they're good reasons. I don't begrudge you that.

But my ancestors didn't climb up the food chain to eat carrots. I have canine teeth for some reason. But I use my molars to grind carrots and potatoes.

There's the teeth that suggest that we're omnivores, but there's also a lengthy digestive tract that suggests it as well.  More surface area to absorb broken down nutrients, which is important if you're eating a plant based diet.  But meat-eating has a long and important place in the history of homo sapiens.  It's possible that language developed out of need to communicate during hunting, for example.


Our teeth are like a baby chimp's milk teeth, small and delicate. We have pathetic jaw muscles and a finicky little digestive tract.

What we are is the animal that cooks it's food
2018-01-12 08:13:08 PM  
4 votes:
All modern food has been appropriated from someone or somewhere else. All of it.
2018-01-13 05:30:20 AM  
3 votes:

I May Be Crazy But...: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: There are no plant sources for B12, so vegans have to take supplements or have B12 added to their food to remain healthy.  If you have to take supplements or buy food with additives in order to get all the necessary nutrients, your diet is pretty much by definition not healthy.

The supplements are from bacterial sources, so still vegan. And what's wrong with a multivitamin? Are you seriously telling me that a multivitamin isn't a common part of modern diets?


In your opinion; should it HAVE to be when simply eating a balanced diet supplies ALL that nutrition with no need to use additional resources to mass-farm nutrients JUST to satisfy the moral condescention of 'meat is murder', when the reality of it is more 'meat is life' for the vast majority of humans on earth?

Just look at these AMORAL SCUM, for instance. They should be shamed out of existence for murdering that sentient creature instead of eating Flintsones fruitymix multivits crushed over tofu, like good, moral, normal people who aren't pure psychopaths do.

:-P

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2018-01-13 01:01:47 AM  
3 votes:

idrow: Is it cultural appropriation if I'm Irish but enjoy Chinese, Italian and Mexican food?  If so, I don't give af.

/why are vegans so hostile and irrational?


Irritability is one of the first signs of malnutrition.
2018-01-12 10:04:13 PM  
3 votes:
Oddly, (this is stupid, I know) I think the carnivores feel that the veg/ vegans are appropriating their food culture. We come full circle :D
2018-01-12 09:56:31 PM  
3 votes:

DrewCurtisJr: RogermcAllen: Yes.  Specifically, these people are jackasses because they demand there be meat in every meal on principle alone, and don't even notice that it is missing when they get a satisfying vegetarian meal.

So if I snuck some meat into a vegetarian meal and they didn't notice it would then it would make them jackasses if they demanded vegetarian meals going forward?


If you can't see why tricking someone into putting something into their body against their wishes is wrong, I really can't help you.
2018-01-12 09:47:17 PM  
3 votes:

RogermcAllen: Yes.  Specifically, these people are jackasses because they demand there be meat in every meal on principle alone, and don't even notice that it is missing when they get a satisfying vegetarian meal.


So if I snuck some meat into a vegetarian meal and they didn't notice it would then it would make them jackasses if they demanded vegetarian meals going forward?
2018-01-12 09:22:44 PM  
3 votes:

Likwit: ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't eat tofu on general principal because it's not meat.

That's a pretty silly way to think about it. A lot of tofu dishes have meat or fish in them. Obnoxious American vegetarians just ruined the idea of tofu for everyone, didn't they?


Not really.

Tofurkey, tofu burgers, boiled tofu, and in general -- people who tried to make tofu look like meat ruined tofu for me.

You can't even sneak it past me in good Chinese food. I know how tofu feels. It feels like sadness.
2018-01-12 08:52:02 PM  
3 votes:
Even vegetarians despise vegans.  No joke.
2018-01-12 08:51:00 PM  
3 votes:
Only goes to prove my theory that vegan are mentally ill.
2018-01-12 08:49:29 PM  
3 votes:

Skyking Skyking Do Not Answer: ecmoRandomNumbers: I mean, I get being a vegetarian or vegan for ethical reasons.

And they're good reasons. I don't begrudge you that.

But my ancestors didn't climb up the food chain to eat carrots. I have canine teeth for some reason. But I use my molars to grind carrots and potatoes.

There's the teeth that suggest that we're omnivores, but there's also a lengthy digestive tract that suggests it as well.  More surface area to absorb broken down nutrients, which is important if you're eating a plant based diet.  But meat-eating has a long and important place in the history of homo sapiens.  It's possible that language developed out of need to communicate during hunting, for example.


Your mother hates you because you tore her a new one.

So does mine.

Our big brains are the reason we have to eat protein that we can only get as carnivores. We didn't have Safeway when we dropped out of the trees and onto the African savannah.
2018-01-12 08:40:11 PM  
3 votes:
White people problems
2018-01-12 08:13:32 PM  
3 votes:
Annoying person says anoying thing on the internet. Rage-bait at 11!
2018-01-12 08:07:34 PM  
3 votes:
The Daily Fail needs to be evacuated, burned to the ground, the debris pulverized into quarter inch pieces, the pieces removed thence to a disused steel plant, fused to slag at high temperatures, the cooled slag re-crushed and re-laid back on the site, and the earth for an entire kilometer around it permanently sterilized.
2018-01-12 07:59:29 PM  
3 votes:
These Daily Mail stories are making me wonder if Fark exists anymore.
2018-01-12 07:53:44 PM  
3 votes:

ecmoRandomNumbers: I mean, I get being a vegetarian or vegan for ethical reasons.

And they're good reasons. I don't begrudge you that.

But my ancestors didn't climb up the food chain to eat carrots. I have canine teeth for some reason. But I use my molars to grind carrots and potatoes.


They really doesn't mean you wouldn't be healthier without meat. It just means that being able to eat meat, and anything else, was a selective advantage in times when food and particularly protein wasn't that easy to come by.
2018-01-12 07:49:58 PM  
3 votes:
This is all an elaborate prank by Andy Kaufman.
2018-01-12 07:49:38 PM  
3 votes:
Reposted to Reddit, stolen by the Daily Fail, then linked to by Fark.

The Aristocrats
2018-01-12 07:16:03 PM  
3 votes:
I mean, I get being a vegetarian or vegan for ethical reasons.

And they're good reasons. I don't begrudge you that.

But my ancestors didn't climb up the food chain to eat carrots. I have canine teeth for some reason. But I use my molars to grind carrots and potatoes.
2018-01-13 06:46:27 AM  
2 votes:

baron von doodle: Either of you tried fermented tofu?


White people are generally clueless about this, and it is amazing.  You can add it to meat dishes too.
2018-01-13 04:42:13 AM  
2 votes:
I called this bullshiat a while back when the whole "cultural appropriation" crap started. I said it wouldn't take long to go from cornrows and clothing to what people eat. The whole concept is just farking ignorant.
2018-01-13 12:26:34 AM  
2 votes:

I May Be Crazy But...: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: There are no plant sources for B12, so vegans have to take supplements or have B12 added to their food to remain healthy.  If you have to take supplements or buy food with additives in order to get all the necessary nutrients, your diet is pretty much by definition not healthy.

The supplements are from bacterial sources, so still vegan. And what's wrong with a multivitamin? Are you seriously telling me that a multivitamin isn't a common part of modern diets?


common ≠ healthy

Vast amounts of sodium, sugar, and fat are part of modern diets in the US, that doesn't magically make high amounts of those things in your diet healthy.  If you are not getting all of your necessary nutrients from your food without said food having to undergo additional processing or you having to take supplements, your diet is inherently not healthy, whether you're omnivorous, vegetarian, or vegan.

And honestly, this is why a lot of people farking hate vegans.  They can never just own their shiat.  If vegans were all, "Yeah, we recognize that our diet isn't the healthiest and that our food is frequently not sourced ethically, but we'd like to think it helps the lives of animals" they'd be just another group of people who choose to restrict their diets that most people wouldn't think twice about.  But no, they have to spout off with the "meat is murder" and "veganism is crazy super healthy and if you're not vegan you're disgusting" and all sorts of pseudo-scientific bullshiat to the point where no one gives a flying fark why they're vegan, they just wish they would shut the hell up about it.
2018-01-12 10:41:40 PM  
2 votes:

baron von doodle: aagrajag: baron von doodle: aagrajag: baron von doodle: DrewCurtisJr: baron von doodle: RogermcAllen: DrewCurtisJr: RogermcAllen: Yes.  Specifically, these people are jackasses because they demand there be meat in every meal on principle alone, and don't even notice that it is missing when they get a satisfying vegetarian meal.

So if I snuck some meat into a vegetarian meal and they didn't notice it would then it would make them jackasses if they demanded vegetarian meals going forward?

If you can't see why tricking someone into putting something into their body against their wishes is wrong, I really can't help you.

That's not as bad as rohypnol, but in the same ethical area.

No it isn't

Introducing a foreign agent against someone's wishes, yes it is. Same ethical area as sneaking pork to halal or devout Jewish eaters.

Rohypnol alters a person's mental state in a pretty severe way. A bit a stealth pork is quite literally harmless if they remain ignorant of it. It's a passive-aggressive dick move, but the two are not remotely alike in motive, effect, harm, or degree.

Read the last few posts. I posit soul damage and another asked if adding clean semen is ok.

Oh, and almost no one considers semen to be a foodstuff. Pork, on the other hand, is one of the most widely consumed meats in existence. China alone produced 54 million metric tons of it last year. When semen as food becomes a billion-dollar industry, you'll have a point.

Perhaps you should stop trying to make analogies, as you're not very good at it.

So, you are cool with clean semen in food, got it.


No, you haven't "got it" at all.

Semen is not a food. Pork is. I can't make it any simpler than that. You cannot form a cogent analogy to save your life. You could have taken a "what if the person has an allergy to the foodstuff in question" approach and had somewhat of a point, but no.
2018-01-12 10:39:00 PM  
2 votes:

baron von doodle: aagrajag: baron von doodle: And pork will, in theory, tarnish the soul of a believer. I consider that a possible effect.

"Tarnish the soul"? I'm supposed to take that lunacy seriously? They need better gods in that case.

Also, I'm pretty sure that they get a pass if they consume it unknowingly, involuntarily, or by necessity.

Some faiths don't get a pass. You have to ritually clean yourself afterwards. I am secular, but I respect those of faith. Obviously alot of people here do not. Jesus said, "Don't be a dick".


They don't have to do anything. I have more consideration for an OCD sufferer who feels a compulsion to sterilise their keyboard should anyone else touch it, as they have an actual disorder.

Religious morons People of faith perform their silly rituals by choice; that's on them. There is nothing worthy of respect here.

Even more amusingly, many of the methods required to produce meat acceptable to religious freaks entails significantly more suffering for the animal. Their willful delusions cause immense amounts of utterly pointless pain. I don't respect that at all.
2018-01-12 10:29:29 PM  
2 votes:

baron von doodle: aagrajag: baron von doodle: DrewCurtisJr: baron von doodle: RogermcAllen: DrewCurtisJr: RogermcAllen: Yes.  Specifically, these people are jackasses because they demand there be meat in every meal on principle alone, and don't even notice that it is missing when they get a satisfying vegetarian meal.

So if I snuck some meat into a vegetarian meal and they didn't notice it would then it would make them jackasses if they demanded vegetarian meals going forward?

If you can't see why tricking someone into putting something into their body against their wishes is wrong, I really can't help you.

That's not as bad as rohypnol, but in the same ethical area.

No it isn't

Introducing a foreign agent against someone's wishes, yes it is. Same ethical area as sneaking pork to halal or devout Jewish eaters.

Rohypnol alters a person's mental state in a pretty severe way. A bit a stealth pork is quite literally harmless if they remain ignorant of it. It's a passive-aggressive dick move, but the two are not remotely alike in motive, effect, harm, or degree.

Read the last few posts. I posit soul damage and another asked if adding clean semen is ok.


Are you trolling? "Soul damage"? Okay, first, define "soul". Then, prove its existence. Next, describe the precise mechanism by which this "damage" may occur, and what form that "damage" will take.

Stop legitimising willful delusion.
2018-01-12 10:21:58 PM  
2 votes:

baron von doodle: DrewCurtisJr: baron von doodle: RogermcAllen: DrewCurtisJr: RogermcAllen: Yes.  Specifically, these people are jackasses because they demand there be meat in every meal on principle alone, and don't even notice that it is missing when they get a satisfying vegetarian meal.

So if I snuck some meat into a vegetarian meal and they didn't notice it would then it would make them jackasses if they demanded vegetarian meals going forward?

If you can't see why tricking someone into putting something into their body against their wishes is wrong, I really can't help you.

That's not as bad as rohypnol, but in the same ethical area.

No it isn't

Introducing a foreign agent against someone's wishes, yes it is. Same ethical area as sneaking pork to halal or devout Jewish eaters.


Rohypnol alters a person's mental state in a pretty severe way. A bit a stealth pork is quite literally harmless if they remain ignorant of it. It's a passive-aggressive dick move, but the two are not remotely alike in motive, effect, harm, or degree.
2018-01-12 10:03:46 PM  
2 votes:

RogermcAllen: DrewCurtisJr: RogermcAllen: Yes.  Specifically, these people are jackasses because they demand there be meat in every meal on principle alone, and don't even notice that it is missing when they get a satisfying vegetarian meal.

So if I snuck some meat into a vegetarian meal and they didn't notice it would then it would make them jackasses if they demanded vegetarian meals going forward?

If you can't see why tricking someone into putting something into their body against their wishes is wrong, I really can't help you.


If you can't see why calling people jackasses because they want to eat meat but not other people because they refuse, even though they wouldn't even notice, then I can't help you.

You think their demands are unreasonable because they didn't notice, and I think your demands are unreasonable because you didn't notice.
2018-01-12 08:54:01 PM  
2 votes:
There is one tiny nugget of truth to this.

A lot of vegetarian food is pretty good (I'm looking at you cheesy lasagna and cheese pizza).  In an office setting, those ordering the food normally don't really consider vegetarians, and just get something like cheesy lasagna to appease them.  What ends up happening is that all of the non-vegetarians can't pass up tasty lasagna and eat it all up as a side to their meat entree leaving nothing left for the vegetarians.  I've seen this happen many times at multiple companies.  It isn't malicious, but people just don't seem to trigger on the fact that vegetarian is good.

At my current company we have started ordering a lot of Indian and several of the "I must have a piece of meat with every meal" jackasses don't even know the meat is missing.
2018-01-12 08:47:25 PM  
2 votes:
Tempeh > Tofu.
/not vegetarian
//just occasionally part of the rotation
///three, three slashies...ah, ah, ah
2018-01-12 08:39:04 PM  
2 votes:
I appropriate anything that seems appropriate. I love steak, but wife sometimes serves tofu to cut down on cholesterol. So sue me.
2018-01-12 08:35:36 PM  
2 votes:
Tofu: Doesn't actually have a flavor but it will absorb flavor. It's really just a filler, like the bread crumbs in a meatloaf. I like Tofu in a good Miso Soup but that's about it.
2018-01-12 07:54:41 PM  
2 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: You can have my Mapo Tofu.  I share.


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2018-01-12 07:53:02 PM  
2 votes:
Any of you ever lazy or slacking off at work?  Please stop appropriating my culture, thx.
2018-01-12 07:53:01 PM  
2 votes:
Vegans have no culture, they aren't even human FFS
2018-01-13 07:08:19 PM  
1 vote:

sunderland56: drxym: But any way, the sane way to look at this is if someone eats a meat substitute one day a week they've cut their meat consumption by 14%.

If people started eating reasonable portion sizes, they could cut their meat consumption by 25% or more, *and* help to stem the global obesity problem, *and* save some cash. Still not gonna happen.


Meat consumption isn't the large contributor to obesity.  That's more the fault of cheap, starchy, sugary carbby foods.  Fatty and salty meat can sure contribute to coronary health problems, but for shear fattening, you can't beat cheap carbs.
2018-01-13 03:02:57 PM  
1 vote:

drxym: But any way, the sane way to look at this is if someone eats a meat substitute one day a week they've cut their meat consumption by 14%.


If people started eating reasonable portion sizes, they could cut their meat consumption by 25% or more, *and* help to stem the global obesity problem, *and* save some cash. Still not gonna happen.
2018-01-13 06:36:58 AM  
1 vote:

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: There are no plant sources for B12, so vegans have to take supplements or have B12 added to their food to remain healthy.  If you have to take supplements or buy food with additives in order to get all the necessary nutrients, your diet is pretty much by definition not healthy.


B12 is fortified in many vegan foods from vegan sources.  You are misinformed and ignorant.
2018-01-13 01:50:03 AM  
1 vote:

baron von doodle: And the Islam dogwhistle....


That isn't a dogwhistle, it was a clear statement referencing the huge social problems -- including regular incidents of mass-murder -- caused by Islam. Instead of listing them explicitly, I nodded in its direction saying "And let's not even get started on that hot mess."

A "dogwhistle", in its figurative sense, is to make an explicit reference to X, while knowing that your intended audience will understand X as referring to Y; the classic example is to speak of "urban" crime, all the while knowing that the racist audience to whom the appeal is directed will hear "black/n*gger" crime. The real meaning of "urban" will remain largely unperceived by the non-racist audience members.

So, you misused even that term as well. Religion is a malignant force in society, and Islam causes more problems than all the rest put together. There is no cowardly dogwhistle there.

"Dogwhistle", that's rich.
2018-01-13 01:41:29 AM  
1 vote:

baron von doodle: aagrajag: baron von doodle: aagrajag: baron von doodle: aagrajag: baron von doodle: And pork will, in theory, tarnish the soul of a believer. I consider that a possible effect.

"Tarnish the soul"? I'm supposed to take that lunacy seriously? They need better gods in that case.

Also, I'm pretty sure that they get a pass if they consume it unknowingly, involuntarily, or by necessity.

Some faiths don't get a pass. You have to ritually clean yourself afterwards. I am secular, but I respect those of faith. Obviously alot of people here do not. Jesus said, "Don't be a dick".

They don't have to do anything. I have more consideration for an OCD sufferer who feels a compulsion to sterilise their keyboard should anyone else touch it, as they have an actual disorder.

Religious morons People of faith perform their silly rituals by choice; that's on them. There is nothing worthy of respect here.

Even more amusingly, many of the methods required to produce meat acceptable to religious freaks entails significantly more suffering for the animal. Their willful delusions cause immense amounts of utterly pointless pain. I don't respect that at all.

Just using Americans alone, there is an 89% belief in good.

http://news.gallup.com/poll/193271/ame​ricans-believe-god.aspx

I am not a believer, but dismiss them at your peril. Many of the believers are good people. In my experience, the best are Methodist. They are one of the few sects that actually read for themselves and don't blindly follow shepherds. Scoff them if you want, but we are vastly outnumbered.

Dude, stop. You just chose, of all countries, the US, an ridiculous statistical outlier in religiousity, as your example.

And no, they are usually not good people. In case you've not noticed, an overwhelming majority of problem in the US are the direct result of the religious. When you give up all critical thinking skills, you end up supporting people like this:

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I'll refrain from showing just how much love, peace and tolerance Islam has brought about.

Not all religious people are bad, but they are far more easily led into it. Amd whenever they acquire power, they start forcing their stupid laws in me. The less unearned respect and deference shown religion, the sooner mankind can move out of its infancy.

That's a wide farking brush. Everyone who believes in God is a Trumper? Damn, you're dim.


Your reading comprehension is abysmal too. I did not say every faithhead went for Trump, but the religious right did so overwhelmingly, 81%, I think.
2018-01-12 11:57:06 PM  
1 vote:
But... If you've been vegan for 3 years, and are older than 3 years old, aren't you just appropriating vegan culture? Isn't this as bad in their eyes as some schlubby white guy wearing nothing but traditional African clothing, or any number of other stupid examples? Isn't the vegan worse by appropriating the culture exclusively for years, while the other woman just occasionally eats tofu?
2018-01-12 11:44:09 PM  
1 vote:

aagrajag: Radioactive Ass: aagrajag: Radioactive Ass: I May Be Crazy But...: But sometimes I really want a Wonder Bread, american cheese, and baloney sandwich. (With Cool Whip - yes, I will fight you on this)

Cool Whip? Fake whipped cream? I can sort of see arguing over Miracle Whip vs Mayo but whipped cream? Well then yes, you are crazy. No buts about it.

I'm pretty sure that was just a brain fart. And I actually like goblin cum Miracle Whip.

I sort of guessed that but I couldn't resist. I liked Miracle Whip when I was a kid but then I grew up beyond a PB&J sammich. Not by much, but Mayo and Mustard is my go to spreadable condiment on almost everything sammich related. Miracle Whip is just way too sweet for me as an adult.

I can't even buy Miracle Whip here, but a thin layer of gochujang can supply a bit of tangy sweetness.


Oooh!  I may have to try that.

RA's PB&J comment reminded me... for Christmas one of my sisters sent us some of her homemade canning, including one jar of candied jalapenos that she knew I would like.  I sent her a thank you text with a pic of my "PB & J" sandwich... peanut butter on one side and jalapenos on the other.  She's a nice sister.
2018-01-12 10:55:02 PM  
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baron von doodle: Stepping back.... This was a thread that started with vegans and is now debating the value of God/ believers of God. Awesome


I'll give the vegans this much: they probably won't try to kill you if you trick them into eating an animal product, which cannot be said for certain other groups. So they have that going for them, which is nice.
2018-01-12 10:48:27 PM  
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Stepping back.... This was a thread that started with vegans and is now debating the value of God/ believers of God. Awesome
2018-01-12 10:44:16 PM  
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ecmoRandomNumbers: I mean, I get being a vegetarian or vegan for ethical reasons.

And they're good reasons. I don't begrudge you that.

But my ancestors didn't climb up the food chain to eat carrots. I have canine teeth for some reason. But I use my molars to grind carrots and potatoes.


I don't. Too many of them war quinoa, which has left actual people malnourished in the wake of them driving the price so high that the people who used to eat it can't afford it. Seriously: if you're vegan for 'ethical' reasons and eat  quinoa, fark you. You're literally killing people for your luxury diet. These people didn't have the choice, you did.
2018-01-12 10:37:20 PM  
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Debating how long to run with this. I guess as long as I get bites. My point still stands. Adding any unknown anything to someone else's intake is less bad but on the same page as rohypnol.
2018-01-12 10:33:11 PM  
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baron von doodle: aagrajag: baron von doodle: DrewCurtisJr: baron von doodle: RogermcAllen: DrewCurtisJr: RogermcAllen: Yes.  Specifically, these people are jackasses because they demand there be meat in every meal on principle alone, and don't even notice that it is missing when they get a satisfying vegetarian meal.

So if I snuck some meat into a vegetarian meal and they didn't notice it would then it would make them jackasses if they demanded vegetarian meals going forward?

If you can't see why tricking someone into putting something into their body against their wishes is wrong, I really can't help you.

That's not as bad as rohypnol, but in the same ethical area.

No it isn't

Introducing a foreign agent against someone's wishes, yes it is. Same ethical area as sneaking pork to halal or devout Jewish eaters.

Rohypnol alters a person's mental state in a pretty severe way. A bit a stealth pork is quite literally harmless if they remain ignorant of it. It's a passive-aggressive dick move, but the two are not remotely alike in motive, effect, harm, or degree.

Read the last few posts. I posit soul damage and another asked if adding clean semen is ok.


Oh, and almost no one considers semen to be a foodstuff. Pork, on the other hand, is one of the most widely consumed meats in existence. China alone produced 54 million metric tons of it last year. When semen as food becomes a billion-dollar industry, you'll have a point.

Perhaps you should stop trying to make analogies, as you're not very good at it.
2018-01-12 10:25:00 PM  
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2018-01-12 10:19:58 PM  
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DrewCurtisJr: baron von doodle: DrewCurtisJr: baron von doodle: RogermcAllen: DrewCurtisJr: RogermcAllen: Yes.  Specifically, these people are jackasses because they demand there be meat in every meal on principle alone, and don't even notice that it is missing when they get a satisfying vegetarian meal.

So if I snuck some meat into a vegetarian meal and they didn't notice it would then it would make them jackasses if they demanded vegetarian meals going forward?

If you can't see why tricking someone into putting something into their body against their wishes is wrong, I really can't help you.

That's not as bad as rohypnol, but in the same ethical area.

No it isn't

Introducing a foreign agent against someone's wishes, yes it is. Same ethical area as sneaking pork to halal or devout Jewish eaters.

No it isn't. Rohypnol is called the date rape drug for a reason. Ingesting it will affect you.


Technically semen won't kill you, if it's disease free.  If someone is well tested should they be able to silently add semen to meals?  I mean, you might think it's gross, but it's high in protein and can add a flavor profile you're not going to get from tofu.
2018-01-12 10:10:27 PM  
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DrewCurtisJr: baron von doodle: RogermcAllen: DrewCurtisJr: RogermcAllen: Yes.  Specifically, these people are jackasses because they demand there be meat in every meal on principle alone, and don't even notice that it is missing when they get a satisfying vegetarian meal.

So if I snuck some meat into a vegetarian meal and they didn't notice it would then it would make them jackasses if they demanded vegetarian meals going forward?

If you can't see why tricking someone into putting something into their body against their wishes is wrong, I really can't help you.

That's not as bad as rohypnol, but in the same ethical area.

No it isn't


Introducing a foreign agent against someone's wishes, yes it is. Same ethical area as sneaking pork to halal or devout Jewish eaters.
2018-01-12 09:59:38 PM  
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Also, thx to I might be crazy. Information is always welcome.
2018-01-12 09:50:17 PM  
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Crazy vegan lady appropriated first by pretending to eat turkey. No more tofurky for her.
2018-01-12 09:40:24 PM  
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DrewCurtisJr: RogermcAllen: At my current company we have started ordering a lot of Indian and several of the "I must have a piece of meat with every meal" jackasses don't even know the meat is missing.

So the must have a piece of meat with every meal people are jackasses but the I won't eat meat evar people aren't?


Yes.  Specifically, these people are jackasses because they demand there be meat in every meal on principle alone, and don't even notice that it is missing when they get a satisfying vegetarian meal.  If one of them collapsed into some sort of meat deficient coma or suffered an anaphylactic episode when their immune system didn't have a piece of animal protein to gnaw on I would feel really bad, but it hasn't happened yet.
2018-01-12 09:38:25 PM  
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Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: There are no plant sources for B12, so vegans have to take supplements or have B12 added to their food to remain healthy.  If you have to take supplements or buy food with additives in order to get all the necessary nutrients, your diet is pretty much by definition not healthy.


The supplements are from bacterial sources, so still vegan. And what's wrong with a multivitamin? Are you seriously telling me that a multivitamin isn't a common part of modern diets?
2018-01-12 09:34:02 PM  
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I May Be Crazy But...: ecmoRandomNumbers: Skyking Skyking Do Not Answer: ecmoRandomNumbers: I mean, I get being a vegetarian or vegan for ethical reasons.

And they're good reasons. I don't begrudge you that.

But my ancestors didn't climb up the food chain to eat carrots. I have canine teeth for some reason. But I use my molars to grind carrots and potatoes.

There's the teeth that suggest that we're omnivores, but there's also a lengthy digestive tract that suggests it as well.  More surface area to absorb broken down nutrients, which is important if you're eating a plant based diet.  But meat-eating has a long and important place in the history of homo sapiens.  It's possible that language developed out of need to communicate during hunting, for example.

Your mother hates you because you tore her a new one.

So does mine.

Our big brains are the reason we have to eat protein that we can only get as carnivores. We didn't have Safeway when we dropped out of the trees and onto the African savannah.

That we could only get as carnivores.  Emphasis on the past tense.  Sure, it's more fun to get it from meat, but we no longer have to.

And the whole "we evolved to do it" argument had some serious holes.  First to my mind being the question of why that only matters for food and not plumbing.


There are no plant sources for B12, so vegans have to take supplements or have B12 added to their food to remain healthy.  If you have to take supplements or buy food with additives in order to get all the necessary nutrients, your diet is pretty much by definition not healthy.
2018-01-12 09:33:42 PM  
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idrow: Is it cultural appropriation if I'm Irish but enjoy Chinese, Italian and Mexican food?  If so, I don't give af.

/why are vegans so hostile and irrational?


Some because they're doing it for attention, of course.  Some because they are tired of having to fight to get food they can eat and needed to tell at someone.  And some because the rest of us occasionally interpret "will there be a vegan option?" as a hostile question.
2018-01-12 09:23:55 PM  
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Wait!   If you eat tofu, you cannot eat meatf? Well then someone please send the memo 📝 to about 2 billion Asians asap!
2018-01-12 09:04:35 PM  
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You'll get my hot and sour soup only after you pry my soup spoon out of my cold dead hand.
2018-01-12 08:51:57 PM  
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I feel the same way about hipster "vegans" who apparently only eat veeg-tables.  I can almost forgive those who only eat veejtables.  But man, hearing the long e and hard g makes me get all "back in my day,  a Straight Edger would take out your teeth for pronouncing it that way. "
2018-01-12 08:49:52 PM  
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swahnhennessy: blender61: swahnhennessy: If you're not English with a rod so far up your ass that you call it your tongue, you have no business reading the Daily Mail.

EPIC.

Thank you. My use of TF is nil these days, but I appreciate the gesture. I'll be sure to mention you whenever I make an ass of myself this month.


think of it as a pint among fast friends.
Don't spare the pithy missiles, I'd like to think I got my money's worth.

It's only a month, you'll survive.
2018-01-12 08:34:08 PM  
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I had a job that fed us. There weren't many vegetarians and they made a lot less veg food. Non-veg weren't supposed to eat it. That was fair. But that's as far as it goes.

I'm a vegan, I don't care what you eat, and culture develops via sharing in the first place so cultural appropriation unless it amounts to intellectual property theft, I don't want to hear about it.
2018-01-12 08:32:09 PM  
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blender61: swahnhennessy: If you're not English with a rod so far up your ass that you call it your tongue, you have no business reading the Daily Mail.

EPIC.


Thank you. My use of TF is nil these days, but I appreciate the gesture. I'll be sure to mention you whenever I make an ass of myself this month.
2018-01-12 08:06:08 PM  
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swahnhennessy: If you're not English with a rod so far up your ass that you call it your tongue, you have no business reading the Daily Mail.


EPIC.
2018-01-12 07:59:51 PM  
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rebelyell2006: ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't eat tofu on general principal because it's not meat.

I don't eat tofu because I always pee out of my ass afterwards.


You should see a doctor.
2018-01-12 07:57:04 PM  
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The most comprehensive form of appropriation is cannibalism
2018-01-12 07:42:49 PM  
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You can have my Mapo Tofu.  I share.
 
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