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2018-01-13 01:02:31 AM  

aagrajag: baron von doodle: aagrajag: baron von doodle: aagrajag: baron von doodle: And pork will, in theory, tarnish the soul of a believer. I consider that a possible effect.

"Tarnish the soul"? I'm supposed to take that lunacy seriously? They need better gods in that case.

Also, I'm pretty sure that they get a pass if they consume it unknowingly, involuntarily, or by necessity.

Some faiths don't get a pass. You have to ritually clean yourself afterwards. I am secular, but I respect those of faith. Obviously alot of people here do not. Jesus said, "Don't be a dick".

They don't have to do anything. I have more consideration for an OCD sufferer who feels a compulsion to sterilise their keyboard should anyone else touch it, as they have an actual disorder.

Religious morons People of faith perform their silly rituals by choice; that's on them. There is nothing worthy of respect here.

Even more amusingly, many of the methods required to produce meat acceptable to religious freaks entails significantly more suffering for the animal. Their willful delusions cause immense amounts of utterly pointless pain. I don't respect that at all.

Just using Americans alone, there is an 89% belief in good.

http://news.gallup.com/poll/193271/ame​ricans-believe-god.aspx

I am not a believer, but dismiss them at your peril. Many of the believers are good people. In my experience, the best are Methodist. They are one of the few sects that actually read for themselves and don't blindly follow shepherds. Scoff them if you want, but we are vastly outnumbered.

Dude, stop. You just chose, of all countries, the US, an ridiculous statistical outlier in religiousity, as your example.

And no, they are usually not good people. In case you've not noticed, an overwhelming majority of problem in the US are the direct result of the religious. When you give up all critical thinking skills, you end up supporting people like this:

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I'll refrain from showing just how much love, peace and tolerance Islam has brought about.

Not all religious people are bad, but they are far more easily led into it. Amd whenever they acquire power, they start forcing their stupid laws in me. The less unearned respect and deference shown religion, the sooner mankind can move out of its infancy.


That's a wide farking brush. Everyone who believes in God is a Trumper? Damn, you're dim.
 
2018-01-13 01:04:18 AM  
And the Islam dogwhistle....
 
2018-01-13 01:04:50 AM  

NevynFox: BullBearMS: You'll get my hot and sour soup only after you pry my soup spoon out of my cold dead hand.

Agreed. Little hole in the wall Chinese place in town has the best hot and sour full of tofu, I get 2 bowls every time.


BullBearMS likes hot&sour soup!?

Would he let me eat a bowl of that with him!? A big bowl...?
 
2018-01-13 01:07:32 AM  
I'm new at active commentary. I was a lurker for a few years. Soo, flagged as religion is evil/ pointless. Got it.
 
2018-01-13 01:08:50 AM  
Kitty pie, long time lurker, hello.
 
2018-01-13 01:10:05 AM  

Kittypie070: NevynFox: BullBearMS: You'll get my hot and sour soup only after you pry my soup spoon out of my cold dead hand.

Agreed. Little hole in the wall Chinese place in town has the best hot and sour full of tofu, I get 2 bowls every time.

BullBearMS likes hot&sour soup!?

Would he let me eat a bowl of that with him!? A big bowl...?


Err, hello
 
2018-01-13 01:25:01 AM  
Who can forget the Great Tofu Shortage of '08.  The vegans all looked unhealthily thin... I mean, more than usual, and they started emigrating from their homelands in rich white suburbs into hipster neighborhoods in the cities.
 
2018-01-13 01:41:29 AM  

baron von doodle: aagrajag: baron von doodle: aagrajag: baron von doodle: aagrajag: baron von doodle: And pork will, in theory, tarnish the soul of a believer. I consider that a possible effect.

"Tarnish the soul"? I'm supposed to take that lunacy seriously? They need better gods in that case.

Also, I'm pretty sure that they get a pass if they consume it unknowingly, involuntarily, or by necessity.

Some faiths don't get a pass. You have to ritually clean yourself afterwards. I am secular, but I respect those of faith. Obviously alot of people here do not. Jesus said, "Don't be a dick".

They don't have to do anything. I have more consideration for an OCD sufferer who feels a compulsion to sterilise their keyboard should anyone else touch it, as they have an actual disorder.

Religious morons People of faith perform their silly rituals by choice; that's on them. There is nothing worthy of respect here.

Even more amusingly, many of the methods required to produce meat acceptable to religious freaks entails significantly more suffering for the animal. Their willful delusions cause immense amounts of utterly pointless pain. I don't respect that at all.

Just using Americans alone, there is an 89% belief in good.

http://news.gallup.com/poll/193271/ame​ricans-believe-god.aspx

I am not a believer, but dismiss them at your peril. Many of the believers are good people. In my experience, the best are Methodist. They are one of the few sects that actually read for themselves and don't blindly follow shepherds. Scoff them if you want, but we are vastly outnumbered.

Dude, stop. You just chose, of all countries, the US, an ridiculous statistical outlier in religiousity, as your example.

And no, they are usually not good people. In case you've not noticed, an overwhelming majority of problem in the US are the direct result of the religious. When you give up all critical thinking skills, you end up supporting people like this:

[img.fark.net image 425x318]

I'll refrain from showing just how much love, peace and tolerance Islam has brought about.

Not all religious people are bad, but they are far more easily led into it. Amd whenever they acquire power, they start forcing their stupid laws in me. The less unearned respect and deference shown religion, the sooner mankind can move out of its infancy.

That's a wide farking brush. Everyone who believes in God is a Trumper? Damn, you're dim.


Your reading comprehension is abysmal too. I did not say every faithhead went for Trump, but the religious right did so overwhelmingly, 81%, I think.
 
2018-01-13 01:50:03 AM  

baron von doodle: And the Islam dogwhistle....


That isn't a dogwhistle, it was a clear statement referencing the huge social problems -- including regular incidents of mass-murder -- caused by Islam. Instead of listing them explicitly, I nodded in its direction saying "And let's not even get started on that hot mess."

A "dogwhistle", in its figurative sense, is to make an explicit reference to X, while knowing that your intended audience will understand X as referring to Y; the classic example is to speak of "urban" crime, all the while knowing that the racist audience to whom the appeal is directed will hear "black/n*gger" crime. The real meaning of "urban" will remain largely unperceived by the non-racist audience members.

So, you misused even that term as well. Religion is a malignant force in society, and Islam causes more problems than all the rest put together. There is no cowardly dogwhistle there.

"Dogwhistle", that's rich.
 
2018-01-13 01:58:30 AM  
 
2018-01-13 04:42:13 AM  
I called this bullshiat a while back when the whole "cultural appropriation" crap started. I said it wouldn't take long to go from cornrows and clothing to what people eat. The whole concept is just farking ignorant.
 
2018-01-13 05:25:03 AM  

swahnhennessy: Used to be Fark rarely had a DM link. But around the same time they made a push for American audiences, some nitwit took it upon themselves to spam DM links (or Drew got paid, who knows at this point).


Daily Mail articles have a "submit to Fark" button alongside the other social media buttons. It seems reasonable to assume that whatever deal they have made with Drew includes a guaranteed number of greenlights.
 
2018-01-13 05:30:20 AM  

I May Be Crazy But...: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: There are no plant sources for B12, so vegans have to take supplements or have B12 added to their food to remain healthy.  If you have to take supplements or buy food with additives in order to get all the necessary nutrients, your diet is pretty much by definition not healthy.

The supplements are from bacterial sources, so still vegan. And what's wrong with a multivitamin? Are you seriously telling me that a multivitamin isn't a common part of modern diets?


In your opinion; should it HAVE to be when simply eating a balanced diet supplies ALL that nutrition with no need to use additional resources to mass-farm nutrients JUST to satisfy the moral condescention of 'meat is murder', when the reality of it is more 'meat is life' for the vast majority of humans on earth?

Just look at these AMORAL SCUM, for instance. They should be shamed out of existence for murdering that sentient creature instead of eating Flintsones fruitymix multivits crushed over tofu, like good, moral, normal people who aren't pure psychopaths do.

:-P

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2018-01-13 06:25:27 AM  
I only get mad about people eating my veggie food when they eat all of it at a group gathering and leave me with nothing.

ecmoRandomNumbers: But my ancestors didn't climb up the food chain to eat carrots


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2018-01-13 06:31:22 AM  

Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: Marcus Aurelius: You can have my Mapo Tofu.  I share.

Mapo dofu is made with meat as a main ingredient.


Sure, if you cook it like an asshole.
 
2018-01-13 06:36:58 AM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: There are no plant sources for B12, so vegans have to take supplements or have B12 added to their food to remain healthy.  If you have to take supplements or buy food with additives in order to get all the necessary nutrients, your diet is pretty much by definition not healthy.


B12 is fortified in many vegan foods from vegan sources.  You are misinformed and ignorant.
 
2018-01-13 06:40:22 AM  

baron von doodle: That's the one thing that still gets me on a philosophical level. If you are against eating meat, why do you keep trying to replicate it?


I want to go to a BBQ and eat something similar to everyone else like a hot dog and try to be "normal" instead of sitting in a corner with some shiatty kale & quinoa salad.  Why is that hard to understand?
 
2018-01-13 06:46:27 AM  

baron von doodle: Either of you tried fermented tofu?


White people are generally clueless about this, and it is amazing.  You can add it to meat dishes too.
 
2018-01-13 10:57:01 AM  
If tofu takes on the flavor of whatever it's served with, then what if I take a big, thick juicy ribeye steak and cut an equally thick slab of tofu into the shape and size of that steak and put them together.  Would it be like eating a juicy steak that's twice as thick?

Because if that's true, vegans should stop telling us about that property of tofu, lest they find their tofu supply depeleted.
 
2018-01-13 11:18:19 AM  

Madeup Farkname: If tofu takes on the flavor of whatever it's served with, then what if I take a big, thick juicy ribeye steak and cut an equally thick slab of tofu into the shape and size of that steak and put them together.  Would it be like eating a juicy steak that's twice as thick?

Because if that's true, vegans should stop telling us about that property of tofu, lest they find their tofu supply depeleted.


I've never done this but I'd imagine if you marinated it in the same container as the steak and cooked them both together at the same time in the same pan or on the grill that the Tofu would probably make for a reasonable steak substitute. Vegans wouldn't eat it of course but that's not really the point is it? The same basic principle applies to grilled veggies like asparagus, mushrooms, bell peppers, zucchini and so on. Not so much with corn though. You need to use something softer than that.
 
2018-01-13 12:18:28 PM  
I'm sure tofu / bean curd was eaten a long time before vegans appropriated it so...

But any way, the sane way to look at this is if someone eats a meat substitute one day a week they've cut their meat consumption by 14%. If that translated into a global figure it would have a MASSIVE impact on emissions, land use, deforestation etc.

A less unhinged vegetarian / vegan might realise that to be a good thing. They would be promoting tasty vegetarian recipes without any of the moralising or guilt tripping.
 
2018-01-13 03:02:57 PM  

drxym: But any way, the sane way to look at this is if someone eats a meat substitute one day a week they've cut their meat consumption by 14%.


If people started eating reasonable portion sizes, they could cut their meat consumption by 25% or more, *and* help to stem the global obesity problem, *and* save some cash. Still not gonna happen.
 
2018-01-13 04:29:51 PM  

idrow: Is it cultural appropriation if I'm Irish but enjoy Chinese, Italian and Mexican food?  If so, I don't give af.

/why are vegans so hostile and irrational?


because they are missing nutrients you can only get form eating meat
 
2018-01-13 06:20:25 PM  

brantgoose: I have a problem with the concept of cultural appropriation as trotted out by all the little pseudo-Trotskiites with their permanent revolution.Namely that it essentially meaningless and defined solely by the alleged victims or their White Knights.

Your ancestors did not have concrete, asphalt or shoes. Are you going to surrender their cultural appropriations and wear nothing but wooden clogs summer and winter? Or are you going to recognize that the truth, information, culture, music and so forth belong to those who need them, love them and respect them?

I can understand people who are black being annoyed by what white people do with their culture, but if you analyze any culture into its component atoms, it falls apart in your hands. The Blues, Gospel and Jazz had their roots in white European music as well as in Black African music. They are fusions. They have played back and forth between many cultures, even Nazi-era German hipsters. Humanity is one great big dysfunctional family and its culture belongs to us all.

You would never know any culture at all if it weren't appropriated by someone else before YOU ever heard of it.

Don't be that guy on the right or the left. Don't be that guy who speaks for other people who are perfectly capable of speaking for themselves. Don't be a twit. Just when black people are making millions selling their culture is it now taboo for white people to like the N-word music ... AGAIN?

What rock did you crawl out from under any way?

Beware of white people talking pop-psych and bureacratese.


I think Brant's been hacked...
 
2018-01-13 06:33:40 PM  

baron von doodle: RedVentrue: Crazy vegan lady appropriated first by pretending to eat turkey. No more tofurky for her.

That's the one thing that still gets me on a philosophical level. If you are against eating meat, why do you keep trying to replicate it?


Good vegetarian or vegan cuisine doesn't pretend to be anything but what it is.  I haven't had any vegetarian friends who ate "faux meat", because they didn't feel the need to pretend to be eating meat.
 
2018-01-13 07:08:19 PM  

sunderland56: drxym: But any way, the sane way to look at this is if someone eats a meat substitute one day a week they've cut their meat consumption by 14%.

If people started eating reasonable portion sizes, they could cut their meat consumption by 25% or more, *and* help to stem the global obesity problem, *and* save some cash. Still not gonna happen.


Meat consumption isn't the large contributor to obesity.  That's more the fault of cheap, starchy, sugary carbby foods.  Fatty and salty meat can sure contribute to coronary health problems, but for shear fattening, you can't beat cheap carbs.
 
2018-01-13 07:28:13 PM  

aagrajag: A bit a stealth pork is quite literally harmless if they remain ignorant of it. It's a passive-aggressive dick move,


In a manner of speaking.
 
2018-01-13 09:06:18 PM  

SansNeural: sunderland56: drxym: But any way, the sane way to look at this is if someone eats a meat substitute one day a week they've cut their meat consumption by 14%.

If people started eating reasonable portion sizes, they could cut their meat consumption by 25% or more, *and* help to stem the global obesity problem, *and* save some cash. Still not gonna happen.

Meat consumption isn't the large contributor to obesity.  That's more the fault of cheap, starchy, sugary carbby foods.  Fatty and salty meat can sure contribute to coronary health problems, but for shear fattening, you can't beat cheap carbs.


Are you trying to say that Oreos aren't health food just because they are Vegan?
 
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