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(BBC-US)   And so it begins. Subby would like to remind you that the CEO of Nestlé is on record for claiming that access to water is not a human right   ( bbc.com) divider line
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2018-01-12 07:14:22 PM  
30 votes:
Nestle would be well advised to remember that people, if they don't have the water they need to survive, will simply take it from them, by force if necessary.

See how that reflects on their stock price.

As soon as survival is on the line, the little game the multinationals play changes drastically. That lesson needs to be retaught from time to time.
2018-01-12 04:45:05 PM  
25 votes:
That guy is the reason I boycott any Nestle owned products.   I miss the occasional bowl of Cherrios.   There was already good reasons for boycotting them, but the "water is not a human right" was the final farking straw.   Full disclosure, I still use the recipe for Nestles Toll House Cookies, but with other chips.  :P

http://www.babymilkaction.org/nestle-​b​oycott-list
2018-01-12 04:27:57 PM  
22 votes:
This. This is why exploration of space should not be left to private enterprise.
(Don't let The Expanse become a documentary)
2018-01-12 07:17:42 PM  
16 votes:
So Nebraska is going with

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While Cape Town is all about

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Monsanto is working hard to bring us 

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2018-01-12 07:33:13 PM  
15 votes:
If the CEO of Nestle believes access to a commonly held, essential natural resource is not a human right, and acts on that belief, he and the company should be declared hostis humani generis.
2018-01-12 07:06:52 PM  
13 votes:
NESTLE is evil.
2018-01-12 07:10:11 PM  
12 votes:
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2018-01-12 07:19:39 PM  
9 votes:

Tryfan: Nestle would be well advised to remember that people, if they don't have the water they need to survive, will simply take it from them, by force if necessary.

See how that reflects on their stock price.

As soon as survival is on the line, the little game the multinationals play changes drastically. That lesson needs to be retaught from time to time.


Yes, as evidenced by Africa, the masses have totally taken control of food and water supply and have kicked out any multinational companies who compete with survival. No warlords and private militias over there.

It's a nice sentiment, but in our dystopian future, with protection coming from the government, the revolution will not be televised.
2018-01-12 07:42:48 PM  
7 votes:
If you live in a rural area,  you have to have a well for water..  in cities, it is piped into your house.   Either way, you still have to pay for it.  Water is not a 'right', it is a necessity for life.  It is your responsibility to get it.
2018-01-12 07:09:30 PM  
6 votes:
Nonsense... he wants to provide clean safe drinking water to South Africa and anyone else who needs it.

/for $9 a gallon
2018-01-12 08:56:35 PM  
4 votes:
Access to water is a human right.  Accumulation of wealth?  Not so much. Hoarding resources is not a right, it's a privilege.  And one that the CEOs if the 21st century have persistently abused.
2018-01-12 07:54:25 PM  
4 votes:

doofusgumby: HoratioGates: Dewey Fidalgo: That guy is the reason I boycott any Nestle owned products.   I miss the occasional bowl of Cherrios.   There was already good reasons for boycotting them, but the "water is not a human right" was the final farking straw.   Full disclosure, I still use the recipe for Nestles Toll House Cookies, but with other chips.  :P

http://www.babymilkaction.org/nestle-b​oycott-list

When I was a kid, the first two memories I have of the world beyond my little house... I have lots of memories before that of cats and running around naked and playing with blocks, but these were my first two memories of 'the world', were listening to the radio in my mom's bedroom.  It was up on a shelf, which may, in retrospect, not have been nearly as high up as I remember, to Jimmy Carter's election returns when he beat Ford, so I would have been just a few days after my 5th birthday, and that we couldn't buy Nestle Quick anymore because they were marketing baby formula unethically.

They have been a sleazy company for many years now.  :(

I still try to avoid their products, but a lot of time it's not listed in big letters.

Use the buycott app.  Set your prefs in it, and scan product bar codes.  It'll tell you the full chain of shell companies behind that box of whatever, and if it's in you boycott list.


Unless you are living in the woods and growing / making everything you need to survive yourself, anything you buy is supporting something or someone shiatty
2018-01-12 07:48:51 PM  
4 votes:

HoratioGates: Dewey Fidalgo: That guy is the reason I boycott any Nestle owned products.   I miss the occasional bowl of Cherrios.   There was already good reasons for boycotting them, but the "water is not a human right" was the final farking straw.   Full disclosure, I still use the recipe for Nestles Toll House Cookies, but with other chips.  :P

http://www.babymilkaction.org/nestle-b​oycott-list

When I was a kid, the first two memories I have of the world beyond my little house... I have lots of memories before that of cats and running around naked and playing with blocks, but these were my first two memories of 'the world', were listening to the radio in my mom's bedroom.  It was up on a shelf, which may, in retrospect, not have been nearly as high up as I remember, to Jimmy Carter's election returns when he beat Ford, so I would have been just a few days after my 5th birthday, and that we couldn't buy Nestle Quick anymore because they were marketing baby formula unethically.

They have been a sleazy company for many years now.  :(

I still try to avoid their products, but a lot of time it's not listed in big letters.


Use the buycott app.  Set your prefs in it, and scan product bar codes.  It'll tell you the full chain of shell companies behind that box of whatever, and if it's in you boycott list.
2018-01-12 07:32:40 PM  
4 votes:
There are Evil Agribusinesses, and then there is Nestlé. Seriously.
2018-01-12 07:27:17 PM  
4 votes:

Dewey Fidalgo: That guy is the reason I boycott any Nestle owned products.   I miss the occasional bowl of Cherrios.   There was already good reasons for boycotting them, but the "water is not a human right" was the final farking straw.   Full disclosure, I still use the recipe for Nestles Toll House Cookies, but with other chips.  :P

http://www.babymilkaction.org/nestle-b​oycott-list


When I was a kid, the first two memories I have of the world beyond my little house... I have lots of memories before that of cats and running around naked and playing with blocks, but these were my first two memories of 'the world', were listening to the radio in my mom's bedroom.  It was up on a shelf, which may, in retrospect, not have been nearly as high up as I remember, to Jimmy Carter's election returns when he beat Ford, so I would have been just a few days after my 5th birthday, and that we couldn't buy Nestle Quick anymore because they were marketing baby formula unethically.

They have been a sleazy company for many years now.  :(

I still try to avoid their products, but a lot of time it's not listed in big letters.
2018-01-12 09:22:35 PM  
3 votes:
The CEO of Nestle needs to be curb-stomped and his body dessicated in the way of the Fremen.
2018-01-12 09:15:37 PM  
3 votes:

HumanSVD:
You still have to pay for services rendered. The world doesn't operate on free.


How many animals you see use money? The world is free. We artificially restricted it and put a farking toll on everything.
2018-01-12 07:49:11 PM  
3 votes:
Step 1) destroy all oil refineries
Step 2) destroy all major transmission lines for power
Step 3) destroy major water treeatment facilities or contaminate majority of the worlds fresh water supple with a super potent toxin
Step 4) corner popcorn market and watch the world burn.

It farking deserves it.
2018-01-12 07:46:13 PM  
3 votes:

OlderGuy: If you live in a rural area,  you have to have a well for water..  in cities, it is piped into your house.   Either way, you still have to pay for it.  Water is not a 'right', it is a necessity for life.  It is your responsibility to get it.

totally agree with this.
2018-01-12 07:40:40 PM  
3 votes:
"Following controversy on social media about these remarks, he stated that he does believe that water for basic hygiene and drinking is indeed a human right. He went on to say that his remarks were intended to address overconsumption by some while others suffered from lack of water and further that his remarks were taken out of context by the documentary."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_B​r​abeck-Letmathe#Views_on_water_charges

People really have a hate boner for Nestle.
2018-01-12 07:32:07 PM  
3 votes:
Well, the next ten years are going to be really interesting.

Anyone know how to design a working stillsuit?
2018-01-12 07:18:30 PM  
3 votes:
I think that in Canada he'd find his ass in court if he tried that. It would be depriving people of the necessities of life or what ever the exact legal phrase is.
2018-01-12 07:05:48 PM  
3 votes:
their chocolate sucks
2018-01-12 10:44:47 PM  
2 votes:
I remember watching the first Robocop when they had contracted mercenary prison systems. I thought no way why would they do that? And here we are.

The Afghan and Iraqi Wars were fought with American forces backed by tons of what are effectively mercenaries and contractors. Imagine fighting world war 2 in that manner? All the guys drafted and sent to cooking school are needed but not effectively part of the war making budget as before.

And now we are subcontracting all of our utilities, even water, to multinational corporations. Are we really that stupid?

I tend to think this is because we have so drastically cut taxes on the wealthy that we can't pay for things the way we used to. We have totally lost the spirit of common good and have allowed ourselves to be sucker punched by the .01%.
2018-01-12 09:57:43 PM  
2 votes:

Birnone: The company says water can be produced with "less than a 100 watts" of electricity - the power requirement of an old-fashioned light bulb.

Rig generators to stationary bicycles. Then people who are too poor to pay for water can earn water credits by riding the bike, the more miles you log, the more water you get. You can even charge people to use the bikes as part of their workout, so that they get exercise and training for their biking activities and water is produced at a profit and that water can then be sold for a further profit. You create jobs for bike repairers and generator manufacturing. It's win/win for everyone.


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2018-01-12 08:14:21 PM  
2 votes:

doofusgumby: Use the buycott app.  Set your prefs in it, and scan product bar codes.  It'll tell you the full chain of shell companies behind that box of whatever, and if it's in you boycott list.


I don't have a smart phone.

ElwoodCuse: Unless you are living in the woods and growing / making everything you need to survive yourself, anything you buy is supporting something or someone shiatty


True, but you can pick less shiatty options, and by boycotting you can encourage companies to make better choices.  It's not pass/fail.
2018-01-12 07:58:08 PM  
2 votes:
When the definition of "meritocracy" changes from "competition to be rich and/or famous instead of just average" to "competition for the right to live"... well, there's a reason why the Roman Republic no longer exists. Dig up the disarticulated corpse of Cicero and ask him about it...
2018-01-12 07:36:32 PM  
2 votes:

ababyatemydingo: This. This is why exploration of space should not be left to private enterprise.
(Don't let The Expanse become a documentary)


We've already let it happen with 1984. :(
2018-01-12 07:34:11 PM  
2 votes:
Ctrl-f Nestle. 0/0. Bad subby. Not saying Nestle should get a pass on the issue, but water credits and water ATMs are way creepier.
2018-01-12 07:27:37 PM  
2 votes:
Even here in liberal Portland area they are able to buy off our politicians to drain our river and aquifers

So fark nestle and double fark the  local officials here that are ok to line their own pockets and sell off our water
Fark nestle and double dog fark Cascade Locks city administrator Gordon zimmerman
2018-01-13 01:42:18 AM  
1 vote:

OlderGuy: If you live in a rural area,  you have to have a well for water..  in cities, it is piped into your house.   Either way, you still have to pay for it.  Water is not a 'right', it is a necessity for life.  It is your responsibility to get it.


Great! So I'll just go down to the local lake. Oh wait, it's contaminated with mercury, arsenic, lead, and lots of other by-products of corporate activity. They don't have to pay to clean up their mess, but I have to purify my water? Kiss my ass.
2018-01-13 12:25:57 AM  
1 vote:

Dewey Fidalgo: That guy is the reason I boycott any Nestle owned products.   I miss the occasional bowl of Cherrios.   There was already good reasons for boycotting them, but the "water is not a human right" was the final farking straw.   Full disclosure, I still use the recipe for Nestles Toll House Cookies, but with other chips.  :P

http://www.babymilkaction.org/nestle-b​oycott-list


This is the very incident I was thinking of when I saw the subject header.

Tryfan: Nestle would be well advised to remember that people, if they don't have the water they need to survive, will simply take it from them, by force if necessary.

See how that reflects on their stock price.

As soon as survival is on the line, the little game the multinationals play changes drastically. That lesson needs to be retaught from time to time.


Libertarians advocate for the 2nd amendment by claiming we need it for a government that can turn oppressive and is violating human rights, notice they never say anything about it's possible use against corporations that violate human rights.
2018-01-12 11:17:01 PM  
1 vote:

Tryfan: Nestle would be well advised to remember that people, if they don't have the water they need to survive, will simply take it from them, by force if necessary.

See how that reflects on their stock price.

As soon as survival is on the line, the little game the multinationals play changes drastically. That lesson needs to be retaught from time to time.


Not to mention, in the game of survival, when people are struggling to survive....stockholders imaginary money in a system will do nothing to protect them from people knocking down their doors and dragging them to their deaths, or stealing all their ill-gotten possessions.

/just like those preppers who think their certificates that say they "own" gold will be worth anything
2018-01-12 09:11:05 PM  
1 vote:

This text is now purple: Water is a human right, right?

So if an endangered fish needs a certain depth of water to spawn, but someone downstream needs water, that fish has to be driven extinct, right?


Wow you just don't even have an environmental bone in your body, do you?
2018-01-12 08:43:12 PM  
1 vote:

gaslight: I think that in Canada he'd find his ass in court if he tried that. It would be depriving people of the necessities of life or what ever the exact legal phrase is.


You still have to pay for services rendered. The world doesn't operate on free.
2018-01-12 08:41:49 PM  
1 vote:

ababyatemydingo: This. This is why exploration of space should not be left to private enterprise.
(Don't let The Expanse become a documentary)


Incorrect. More parties brings more possibilities. Government budgets change and flux all the time.
2018-01-12 08:01:39 PM  
1 vote:
Obviously the only answer is to build more oil pipelines over our major aquifers.
2018-01-12 07:56:22 PM  
1 vote:
Well, it's a situation that will sort itself out in a week or so.
2018-01-12 07:50:07 PM  
1 vote:
Suck it.

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2018-01-12 07:42:23 PM  
1 vote:

baron von doodle: Ctrl-f Nestle. 0/0. Bad subby. Not saying Nestle should get a pass on the issue, but water credits and water ATMs are way creepier.


Subby was referring to a statement the Nestlé CEO made in 2013. Type nestle ceo into Google and behold the suggestions.
2018-01-12 07:39:22 PM  
1 vote:
increasing consumption by a growing population.

I'll agree with that. I live in Florida and when our population more than doubled thanks to development companies, we started having sink holes, water shortages, increased water pollution and the shutting down of artesian wells. In my own city, several deep wells for the town had to be shut down because they were around a heavy industry and 'some how' started showing traces of a couple of dangerous chemicals from the plant.

Even during the worst drought, the many private community's always manage to have green lawns and even my neighbor runs his water during late night to keep his lawn green. He just turns down the timer on his sprinkler system.

I live around the Indian River Lagoon and the oil from the thousands of boats engines cruising the waters gives it a rainbow sheen and a couple of thousand septic tanks seeping through the shore soil mean we have to close the waters to shell fishing several times a year, plus the area gets flooded with agricultural runoff.

We also have so many swimming pools in town that I lost count. They're as common as barnicals on a sea turtles butt,

As for Hershey's, I'm so darn tired of the taste of that stuff that I welcome any imported chocolate I can get. Mr Hershey, who started the place, was real good with his competition, often helping them out and being socially conscious, after he died, things changed drastically. The company did a lot of nasty things along the year, including monopolize the chocolate rations in WW2 that got to the US soldiers.

Never heard of any bars by any other company showing up there, in the Korean and Vietnam wars, did you?
2018-01-12 07:38:25 PM  
1 vote:
2018-01-12 07:20:10 PM  
1 vote:
Nestlé is French?

Never mind with help from the Romans, they seem to have solved water rights issues.
 
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