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(BBC-US)   And so it begins. Subby would like to remind you that the CEO of Nestlé is on record for claiming that access to water is not a human right   ( bbc.com) divider line
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2018-01-12 08:44:52 PM  
Flow: For Love of Water (Full Documentary)
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2018-01-12 08:45:30 PM  

sat1va: [thumbs.gfycat.com image 240x135]


Super dramatic but it seemed to me like a really shiatty way to dispense water.

I mean if it is already at a premium why not hand it out a bit more effeciebtly.
 
2018-01-12 08:51:15 PM  

omg bbq: sat1va: [thumbs.gfycat.com image 240x135]

Super dramatic but it seemed to me like a really shiatty way to dispense water.

I mean if it is already at a premium why not hand it out a bit more effeciebtly.


It seemed to me that was the point. He barely gives them any, and what little they get they have to fight for, licking the rocks if they have to. It's a power move even Trump would be jealous of.
 
2018-01-12 08:55:43 PM  
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Above: The CEO of Nestle.
 
2018-01-12 08:56:35 PM  
Access to water is a human right.  Accumulation of wealth?  Not so much. Hoarding resources is not a right, it's a privilege.  And one that the CEOs if the 21st century have persistently abused.
 
2018-01-12 08:58:43 PM  

italie: I'm still trying to get over the whole having dirt floors and straw doors....but an internet connected water meter.


Sthhap using your brain!!! RTFA is for losers...
 
2018-01-12 09:00:13 PM  
And as the world is starting to run out of potable water, there are HOAs everywhere demanding that residents waste it on their lawns. We must have green grass and open garage doors !
 
2018-01-12 09:02:53 PM  

Radioactive Ass: italie: I'm still trying to get over the whole having dirt floors and straw doors....but an internet connected water meter.

Sthhap using your brain!!! RTFA is for losers...


I'll be honest...I was just looking at the pictures

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2018-01-12 09:04:50 PM  
Not a human right, but a corporate right.
 
2018-01-12 09:06:19 PM  

This text is now purple: Water is a human right, right?

So if an endangered fish needs a certain depth of water to spawn, but someone downstream needs water, that fish has to be driven extinct, right?


The fish can always move to where there's more water.
 
2018-01-12 09:11:05 PM  

This text is now purple: Water is a human right, right?

So if an endangered fish needs a certain depth of water to spawn, but someone downstream needs water, that fish has to be driven extinct, right?


Wow you just don't even have an environmental bone in your body, do you?
 
2018-01-12 09:15:37 PM  

HumanSVD:
You still have to pay for services rendered. The world doesn't operate on free.


How many animals you see use money? The world is free. We artificially restricted it and put a farking toll on everything.
 
2018-01-12 09:22:35 PM  
The CEO of Nestle needs to be curb-stomped and his body dessicated in the way of the Fremen.
 
2018-01-12 09:30:59 PM  

This text is now purple: Water is a human right, right?

So if an endangered fish needs a certain depth of water to spawn, but someone downstream needs water, that fish has to be driven extinct, right?


Yep.  I have absolutely no problem with that.
 
2018-01-12 09:31:42 PM  
The company says water can be produced with "less than a 100 watts" of electricity - the power requirement of an old-fashioned light bulb.

Rig generators to stationary bicycles. Then people who are too poor to pay for water can earn water credits by riding the bike, the more miles you log, the more water you get. You can even charge people to use the bikes as part of their workout, so that they get exercise and training for their biking activities and water is produced at a profit and that water can then be sold for a further profit. You create jobs for bike repairers and generator manufacturing. It's win/win for everyone.
 
2018-01-12 09:38:24 PM  
Realize it's not an option for everyone, but I choose to live somewhere water is not scarce.  It comes out of the river and back in downstream.
 
2018-01-12 09:45:34 PM  
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2018-01-12 09:51:50 PM  
Raise your hand if you think the article we are discussing is about Nestlé.
 
2018-01-12 09:52:07 PM  

Birnone: The company says water can be produced with "less than a 100 watts" of electricity - the power requirement of an old-fashioned light bulb.

Rig generators to stationary bicycles. Then people who are too poor to pay for water can earn water credits by riding the bike, the more miles you log, the more water you get. You can even charge people to use the bikes as part of their workout, so that they get exercise and training for their biking activities and water is produced at a profit and that water can then be sold for a further profit. You create jobs for bike repairers and generator manufacturing. It's win/win for everyone.


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2018-01-12 09:57:43 PM  

Birnone: The company says water can be produced with "less than a 100 watts" of electricity - the power requirement of an old-fashioned light bulb.

Rig generators to stationary bicycles. Then people who are too poor to pay for water can earn water credits by riding the bike, the more miles you log, the more water you get. You can even charge people to use the bikes as part of their workout, so that they get exercise and training for their biking activities and water is produced at a profit and that water can then be sold for a further profit. You create jobs for bike repairers and generator manufacturing. It's win/win for everyone.


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2018-01-12 10:06:39 PM  
Lock him (Nestle CEO) in a room for a week without water and then see what he says.
 
2018-01-12 10:36:56 PM  

Tryfan: Nestle would be well advised to remember that people, if they don't have the water they need to survive, will simply take it from them, by force if necessary.

See how that reflects on their stock price.

As soon as survival is on the line, the little game the multinationals play changes drastically. That lesson needs to be retaught from time to time.


If things came to that, they could have armed guards at their bottling plants. The people near them will bring many more guns and people and take over the plant. One of their plants is in Mt. Shasta City, CA, right in a blood-red, State of Jefferson region of people. They have LOTS of guns and looking for a fight.
 
2018-01-12 10:44:47 PM  
I remember watching the first Robocop when they had contracted mercenary prison systems. I thought no way why would they do that? And here we are.

The Afghan and Iraqi Wars were fought with American forces backed by tons of what are effectively mercenaries and contractors. Imagine fighting world war 2 in that manner? All the guys drafted and sent to cooking school are needed but not effectively part of the war making budget as before.

And now we are subcontracting all of our utilities, even water, to multinational corporations. Are we really that stupid?

I tend to think this is because we have so drastically cut taxes on the wealthy that we can't pay for things the way we used to. We have totally lost the spirit of common good and have allowed ourselves to be sucker punched by the .01%.
 
2018-01-12 10:56:39 PM  
DNRTFT, so apologies.

Nestle's CEO made this claim over ten years ago, adding that he wanted Coca-Cola to be "more available than water", and floated the idea of installing metered lines and in-home taps for Coca-Cola in developing nations. First-rate asshole, that guy.
 
2018-01-12 11:08:13 PM  

HumanSVD: gaslight: I think that in Canada he'd find his ass in court if he tried that. It would be depriving people of the necessities of life or what ever the exact legal phrase is.

You still have to pay for services rendered. The world doesn't operate on free.


Illegal to collect rainwater in Colorado... Where's the services rendered?  Did Trump bring the rainfall with his renowned negotiating skills?
Go pray to God for forgiveness before His agent smites thy @ss with a copper jacketed round.
 
2018-01-12 11:17:01 PM  

Tryfan: Nestle would be well advised to remember that people, if they don't have the water they need to survive, will simply take it from them, by force if necessary.

See how that reflects on their stock price.

As soon as survival is on the line, the little game the multinationals play changes drastically. That lesson needs to be retaught from time to time.


Not to mention, in the game of survival, when people are struggling to survive....stockholders imaginary money in a system will do nothing to protect them from people knocking down their doors and dragging them to their deaths, or stealing all their ill-gotten possessions.

/just like those preppers who think their certificates that say they "own" gold will be worth anything
 
2018-01-12 11:20:12 PM  

gaslight: I think that in Canada he'd find his ass in court if he tried that. It would be depriving people of the necessities of life or what ever the exact legal phrase is.


Actually, they are currently in a dispute with groups in Centre Wellington.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchen​e​r-waterloo/nestle-centre-wellington-ac​cused-deny-backroom-deals-1.3920539
 
2018-01-12 11:30:37 PM  

inner ted: Even here in liberal Portland area they are able to buy off our politicians to drain our river and aquifers

So fark nestle and double fark the  local officials here that are ok to line their own pockets and sell off our water
Fark nestle and double dog fark Cascade Locks city administrator Gordon zimmerman


From your link: Zimmerman, though, said he doesn't believe the ballot measure would hold up to legal scrutiny, with one of the primary questions being whether a county government has the authority to tell a city government what it can and can't do with its resources.

Doesn't Oregon have some more restrictive laws when it comes to groundwater? As in it belongs to the state, err "the people"? Wouldn't that mean they can in fact tell a city government what can be done with water resources?
 
2018-01-12 11:35:49 PM  
The only part of you still suit that cant be done in 9 months for under a million is a water specific protein channel that can withstand the pH of urea....
 
2018-01-13 12:25:57 AM  

Dewey Fidalgo: That guy is the reason I boycott any Nestle owned products.   I miss the occasional bowl of Cherrios.   There was already good reasons for boycotting them, but the "water is not a human right" was the final farking straw.   Full disclosure, I still use the recipe for Nestles Toll House Cookies, but with other chips.  :P

http://www.babymilkaction.org/nestle-b​oycott-list


This is the very incident I was thinking of when I saw the subject header.

Tryfan: Nestle would be well advised to remember that people, if they don't have the water they need to survive, will simply take it from them, by force if necessary.

See how that reflects on their stock price.

As soon as survival is on the line, the little game the multinationals play changes drastically. That lesson needs to be retaught from time to time.


Libertarians advocate for the 2nd amendment by claiming we need it for a government that can turn oppressive and is violating human rights, notice they never say anything about it's possible use against corporations that violate human rights.
 
2018-01-13 12:40:38 AM  

fanbladesaresharp: inner ted: Even here in liberal Portland area they are able to buy off our politicians to drain our river and aquifers

So fark nestle and double fark the  local officials here that are ok to line their own pockets and sell off our water
Fark nestle and double dog fark Cascade Locks city administrator Gordon zimmerman

From your link: Zimmerman, though, said he doesn't believe the ballot measure would hold up to legal scrutiny, with one of the primary questions being whether a county government has the authority to tell a city government what it can and can't do with its resources.

Doesn't Oregon have some more restrictive laws when it comes to groundwater? As in it belongs to the state, err "the people"? Wouldn't that mean they can in fact tell a city government what can be done with water resources?


Also that the water originates from outside the city seems to suggest he's overreaching
 
2018-01-13 01:42:18 AM  

OlderGuy: If you live in a rural area,  you have to have a well for water..  in cities, it is piped into your house.   Either way, you still have to pay for it.  Water is not a 'right', it is a necessity for life.  It is your responsibility to get it.


Great! So I'll just go down to the local lake. Oh wait, it's contaminated with mercury, arsenic, lead, and lots of other by-products of corporate activity. They don't have to pay to clean up their mess, but I have to purify my water? Kiss my ass.
 
2018-01-13 02:40:27 AM  

Peter Weyland: "Following controversy on social media about these remarks, he stated that he does believe that water for basic hygiene and drinking is indeed a human right. He went on to say that his remarks were intended to address overconsumption by some while others suffered from lack of water and further that his remarks were taken out of context by the documentary."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Br​abeck-Letmathe#Views_on_water_charges

People really have a hate boner for Nestle.


Did the "Err...uh...buh...what I *meant* to say was" get left out?
 
2018-01-13 06:32:01 PM  
This is the same Nestle that drains millions of gallons of water from Lake Michigan to bottle as Poland Springs...errrrr.....from a spring on the shore of the lake.
 
2018-01-13 09:43:17 PM  

netringer: This is the same Nestle that drains millions of gallons of water from Lake Michigan to bottle as Poland Springs...errrrr.....from a spring on the shore of the lake.


I buy Ready Refresh (Arrowhead) because the local water stinks of chlorine just while doing dishes. Chlorine is an acid when mixed with water. The best way to cover it up is frozen juice concentrate. That costs a lot more than the $7.49 per five gallon for non chemical tasting water when I buy delivered water bottles.
 
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