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(Yahoo)   In 2014, the Cleveland Browns were 7-4 and in sole possession of first place in the AFCN. Enter Johnny Manziel   ( sports.yahoo.com) divider line
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2018-01-12 03:44:51 PM  
J.T., you deserved so much better. *sigh*
 
2018-01-12 04:48:00 PM  
Well, he's gone. A while now.
 
2018-01-12 05:48:19 PM  
Johnny came in when they were 7-6.

He wasn't ready to play but it is not like they were 7-4.
 
2018-01-12 06:06:19 PM  
The curse of Johnny Manziel?
 
2018-01-12 06:13:01 PM  

texanjeff: Johnny came in when they were 7-6.

He wasn't ready to play but it is not like they were 7-4.


The most important quote in the whole article: "The Cleveland Browns have only won four games since their decision to start Manziel."  That's how far off track he threw them.
 
2018-01-12 06:14:11 PM  
The Curse of Cleveland does not fall onto one QB's shoulders, no matter how large a douchebag he is/was.
 
2018-01-12 06:14:42 PM  

FriarReb98: texanjeff: Johnny came in when they were 7-6.

He wasn't ready to play but it is not like they were 7-4.

The most important quote in the whole article: "The Cleveland Browns have only won four games since their decision to start Manziel."  That's how far off track he threw them.


Nonsense.
 
2018-01-12 06:16:10 PM  

FriarReb98: texanjeff: Johnny came in when they were 7-6.

He wasn't ready to play but it is not like they were 7-4.

The most important quote in the whole article: "The Cleveland Browns have only won four games since their decision to start Manziel."  That's how far off track he threw them.


Yeah, but Johnny was the QB when they won 3 of those 4.

It is not like the browns were doing great before him. Brady Quinn?? Brandon Weedon? Bryan Hoyer??

If you want to blame someone... it is freaking Josh's gordons fault. That dude would have made any of those guys a success.
 
2018-01-12 06:17:55 PM  

texanjeff: FriarReb98: texanjeff: Johnny came in when they were 7-6.

He wasn't ready to play but it is not like they were 7-4.

The most important quote in the whole article: "The Cleveland Browns have only won four games since their decision to start Manziel."  That's how far off track he threw them.

Yeah, but Johnny was the QB when they won 3 of those 4.

It is not like the browns were doing great before him. Brady Quinn?? Brandon Weedon? Bryan Hoyer??

If you want to blame someone... it is freaking Josh's gordons fault. That dude would have made any of those guys a success.


I'll buy into that partially. But in the end, Gordon, Johnny Shiathead, etc... it points to the draft trust having no farking clue what they're doing whatsoever when it comes to judging people from a personnel standpoint.
 
2018-01-12 06:25:22 PM  
Hoyer has three pretty bad games (even if they managed to win the first).  They had lost most of their playoff hopes.

Putting Manziel, in even if just to shake things up, doesn't look like a terrible decision to me.

I would put it close to the Bills this season.
 
2018-01-12 06:27:04 PM  

FriarReb98: texanjeff: FriarReb98: texanjeff: Johnny came in when they were 7-6.

He wasn't ready to play but it is not like they were 7-4.

The most important quote in the whole article: "The Cleveland Browns have only won four games since their decision to start Manziel."  That's how far off track he threw them.

Yeah, but Johnny was the QB when they won 3 of those 4.

It is not like the browns were doing great before him. Brady Quinn?? Brandon Weedon? Bryan Hoyer??

If you want to blame someone... it is freaking Josh's gordons fault. That dude would have made any of those guys a success.

I'll buy into that partially. But in the end, Gordon, Johnny Shiathead, etc... it points to the draft trust having no farking clue what they're doing whatsoever when it comes to judging people from a personnel standpoint.


Plus bad free agent pick ups, no good players want to go there because Cleveland Sucks.

I only remember 3 years they were every decent and Bernie Kosar was QB.

Stupid to Draft JFF in first Round but by no means are they still feeling the effects. No way. Look at the Rams. The Cardinals. The Texans. Several teams have gone from 4-12 to playoff teams in last few years.
 
2018-01-12 07:05:18 PM  

texanjeff: FriarReb98: texanjeff: Johnny came in when they were 7-6.

He wasn't ready to play but it is not like they were 7-4.

The most important quote in the whole article: "The Cleveland Browns have only won four games since their decision to start Manziel."  That's how far off track he threw them.

Yeah, but Johnny was the QB when they won 3 of those 4.

It is not like the browns were doing great before him. Brady Quinn?? Brandon Weedon? Bryan Hoyer??

If you want to blame someone... it is freaking Josh's gordons fault. That dude would have made any of those guys a success.


2014 was the year that the Titans held a 28-3 lead over the Browns and blew it to Brian Hoyer, proving that we blew 28-3 leads before it was cool.
 
2018-01-12 07:53:12 PM  

kdawg7736: The curse of Johnny Manziel?


The curse of a shiatty front office that does not understand the game. The browns will be awful until the front office is completely emptied out and new ownership takes over.
 
2018-01-12 09:33:40 PM  

texanjeff: I only remember 3 years they were every decent and Bernie Kosar was QB.


I threw sidearm as a kid growing up due to Bernie Kosar. I loved the guy but he made Stephen Hawking without a wheelchair look mobile by comparison.
 
2018-01-12 09:34:53 PM  

rummonkey: kdawg7736: The curse of Johnny Manziel?

The curse of a shiatty front office that does not understand the game. The browns will be awful until the front office is completely emptied out and new ownership takes over.


...has been the battle cry of every Browns fan every two years like clockwork. And it's done to appease those fans every two years, like clockwork.  And it hasn't. Worked. Yet.

/And the Cycle of Losing continues...
 
2018-01-13 01:23:46 AM  
"Everybody that was on the football side of things that saw him practice, that saw him prepare - or lack of prepare - saw him in the meeting room, saw that he wasn't mature enough, [knew] he wouldn't be able to handle it," continued Thomas. "But the first moment that [Brian] Hoyer slips up, now you've got those very powerful people in the front office saying, 'You gotta play this guy, you gotta play this guy' and it went on for a couple of weeks and finally it got to the point where they won the argument and we had to play Johnny and as soon as that happened it was like everybody on the football side just gave up because they knew what the results were going to be like.

And that is EXACTLY why the Browns will continue to be awful for the foreseeable future; the front office is an amazing blend of toxic and incompetent.
 
2018-01-13 08:28:36 AM  
Manziel has been out of the National Football League since being cut by the Browns at the end of the 2015 season, but has been offered a contract by the CFL's Hamilton Tiger-Cats.

Well, perfect. Hamilton is Canada's Cleveland, and damn if the Tiger-Cats aren't the CFL Browns.
 
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