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(BBC)   Transgender Big Brother 'star' who now identifies as a woman despite previously being male, now identifies as being alive, despite previously being dead   ( bbc.co.uk) divider line
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2018-01-12 01:08:30 PM  
Huh, my first thought was that this was about the US's BB version and it was talking about Audrey
 
2018-01-12 01:22:44 PM  
How do we know her being alive isn't the hacked part.
 
2018-01-12 01:29:47 PM  

texdent: Huh, my first thought was that this was about the US's BB version and it was talking about Audrey


My other thought was that Paul was still a runnerup, asshole.

/friendship THIS!
 
2018-01-12 01:45:23 PM  
Rodrigo Lopes is now known as Rebekah Shelton?

I think the bigger news is that she somehow became a white girl.
 
2018-01-12 02:45:12 PM  
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My wang identifies as confused
 
2018-01-12 02:47:35 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: [img.fark.net image 850x478]
My wang identifies as confused


What's confusing? You're attracted to how she presents in that picture. Is it that you're not sure whether she'd want to top you?
 
2018-01-12 02:47:39 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: texdent: Huh, my first thought was that this was about the US's BB version and it was talking about Audrey

My other thought was that Paul was still a runnerup, asshole.

/friendship THIS!


I hated Josh because he was a big dumb oaf ("I'm in the business industry!") but it makes me smile to know that every day that asshole Paul gets to wake up and re-realize that his half a million dollars was given to the big dumb oaf not because people though Josh played a better game, but because Paul was just that much of an asshole.
 
2018-01-12 03:24:55 PM  
Subby they weren't 'previously male'. Their gender has alwaysbeen female. They just happen to have been assigned a gender based on their biology instead of on the psychological gender they've always felt themselves to be. What's between your legs is a physical construct. Gender is a social construct.
 
2018-01-12 03:28:52 PM  
SirDigbyChickenCaesar:
My wang identifies as confused
If your wang is attracted to those who identify as female who possess physical characteristics considered to be conventionally attractive to most mainstream cisgender straight, bi, omni or pansexual males it's functioning properly.
 
2018-01-12 03:30:26 PM  

zidders: Subby they weren't 'previously male'. Their gender has alwaysbeen female. They just happen to have been assigned a gender based on their biology instead of on the psychological gender they've always felt themselves to be. What's between your legs is a physical construct. Gender is a social construct.


Oh for the love of... I don't have to do this again, do I? Oh, if I must

-----------> The gag

You
 
2018-01-12 03:35:41 PM  

Stantz: -----------> The gag


Are we not doing "phrasing?" anymore?
 
2018-01-12 03:51:19 PM  

zidders: Subby they weren't 'previously male'. Their gender has alwaysbeen female. They just happen to have been assigned a gender based on their biology instead of on the psychological gender they've always felt themselves to be. What's between your legs is a physical construct. Gender is a social construct.


so at 6 months old how would the baby been socially viewed
 
2018-01-12 04:02:45 PM  

zidders: Their gender has alwaysbeen female.


Except apparently not.  She used to identify as male, for at least part of her professional career.
 
2018-01-12 04:35:43 PM  

Jim_Callahan: zidders: Their gender has alwaysbeen female.

Except apparently not.  She used to identify as male, for at least part of her professional career.


I do not know her full life story, but she may have perceived to the public as a man, but really felt inside as a woman. However, gender like sexuality is on a spectrum, so she could have felt that she was both man and a woman, but felt more on the woman side of the spectrum side, and decided to transition to a woman.
 
2018-01-12 06:34:36 PM  

demonfaerie: Jim_Callahan: zidders: Their gender has alwaysbeen female.

Except apparently not.  She used to identify as male, for at least part of her professional career.

I do not know her full life story, but she may have perceived to the public as a man, but really felt inside as a woman. However, gender like sexuality is on a spectrum, so she could have felt that she was both man and a woman, but felt more on the woman side of the spectrum side, and decided to transition to a woman.


^This which is why I should apologize for assuming how they used to perceive their gender. I just wish people would be more open minded and accepting, that's all.
 
2018-01-12 06:41:14 PM  
Warrior Kermit:
so at 6 months old how would the baby been socially viewed

You use gender neutral pronouns. Then when the start getting old enough to learn the concept you teach them about the gender spectrum. Then you let them know that there's no need to rush to define themselves and hopefully tell them that you'll accept and love them no matter what they decide or don't decide to refer to themselves as.
 
2018-01-12 07:02:48 PM  
Material reality exists. Yes, gender is a social construct, but sex is not. (What the heck is a physical construct in this context?) Sex is an immutable, material reality. You can't "feel" male or female, because these are not emotions. You are one or the other, and which of the two is observed at your birth. Gender is the set of socially ordained roles enforced on people based on their biological sex. Being uncomfortable with these roles leads some people to think there's something wrong with them. In fact these roles are limiting and oppressive anyway. Feeing uncomfortable with them is normal. Thinking that your body is the problem, rather than society, is not.

/just repeating feminism 101 here
 
2018-01-12 07:13:01 PM  

zidders: You use gender neutral pronouns


No, you use he, she, him, her, boy, girl. That way they won't get the shiat kicked out of them at school for referring to themselves as non-binary or gender fluid at the age of 8, or 14.

What you do is raise them as a human being in this horrible and real world, and if they start to feel differently at some point in their life about who they are, THEN you love and support them as much as humanly possible

I have 2 boys, both with autism & ADHD (among other shiat). These conditions weren't diagnosed until they were 5/6 years old. I cannot even begin to comprehend how farked up my boys' heads would be if i hadn;t given them a solid foundation at the start of their lives from which to base themselves. If they feel later in life they want to change something about themselves, I won't have a problem with it. In fact, one of my oldest son's former male schoolmates now identifies as a girl and goes by Naomi. She's 12 and comes over every now and again to visit, which I've started to resent becuse she regularly kicks my arse at chess.
 
2018-01-12 07:17:07 PM  

Stantz: That way they won't get the shiat kicked out of them at school for referring to themselves as non-binary or gender fluid at the age of 8, or 14.
... In fact, one of my oldest son's former male schoolmates now identifies as a girl and goes by Naomi. She's 12 and comes over every now and again to visit,


Taking a break from getting the shiat kicked out of her at school?
 
2018-01-12 07:30:17 PM  

Theaetetus: Stantz: That way they won't get the shiat kicked out of them at school for referring to themselves as non-binary or gender fluid at the age of 8, or 14.
... In fact, one of my oldest son's former male schoolmates now identifies as a girl and goes by Naomi. She's 12 and comes over every now and again to visit,

Taking a break from getting the shiat kicked out of her at school?


Home-schooled since 12. Bullied severely. Close to horrific.
 
2018-01-12 08:01:41 PM  

Stantz: zidders: You use gender neutral pronouns

No, you use he, she, him, her, boy, girl. That way they won't get the shiat kicked out of them at school for referring to themselves as non-binary or gender fluid at the age of 8, or 14.

What you do is raise them as a human being in this horrible and real world, and if they start to feel differently at some point in their life about who they are, THEN you love and support them as much as humanly possible

I have 2 boys, both with autism & ADHD (among other shiat). These conditions weren't diagnosed until they were 5/6 years old. I cannot even begin to comprehend how farked up my boys' heads would be if i hadn;t given them a solid foundation at the start of their lives from which to base themselves. If they feel later in life they want to change something about themselves, I won't have a problem with it. In fact, one of my oldest son's former male schoolmates now identifies as a girl and goes by Naomi. She's 12 and comes over every now and again to visit, which I've started to resent becuse she regularly kicks my arse at chess.


I remember the few psychology classes I took back in college talked about how a family raised their child gender neutral. The child wore gender neutral clothes, played with gender neutral toys, and used gender neutral pronouns. The sex of the child I believe was female, and when she grew up she identified as a woman. She married a man, and had children. There was a child born male, and his cut his penis cut off by a circumcision. They made him a vagina, and tried to force him to be a girl. I believed they tried to give him hormones as well. When he was living as a girl, he wanted to be a boy. The family pretty much thought you can force gender and sex on a person, but when in reality, you are wired at birth your sexual, and gender identity. Raising a child gender neutral isn't going to mess up a child. Forcing gender social norms can be worse. If you give a child positive support, and not force social constructs on a person, it isn't going to fark them up in life.
 
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