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(Forbes)   Are aliens everywhere, but we're just looking for them all wrong?   ( forbes.com) divider line
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2562 clicks; posted to Geek » on 12 Jan 2018 at 11:56 AM (27 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2018-01-12 09:24:42 AM  
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2018-01-12 09:32:05 AM  
Radio signals do not travel at the speed of light so some of the math in the article is wrong, but still an interesting read.
 
2018-01-12 10:33:06 AM  
If there is group of intelligent aliens within, 10K or 20K light years, they would only need to be 100 or 200 years more advanced than us and wouldn't have to hear our radio signals.  They can point a giant-ass space telescope our direction and know that there is life here.  The problem is that if they did that a million years ago it would have been:

Alien 1: "Cool, there's life on that planet as well...volcanic activity....cold as fark...no signs of nuclear fission, fusion, antimatter, rocket exhaust, solar capture, and all that other shiat.  And I don't see any evidence of planetary system colonization by anything."

Alien 2: "Ok.  Group it with the other shiatload of planets in the same condition and we'll give it a check every thousand years or so.  If something intelligent develops before *that* planet is inevitably fried by radiation or destroyed by rocks, we'll see it."

Alien 1: "You know, there's something in this data.  I'm curious about something.  Can we go to sleep for a couple hundred of its orbits?  I'll set scope 743 to look at it once a rotation."

Alien 2: "Sounds cool."

(sleep for 200 years / 10 seconds)

Alien 1: "Ok...let's see.  Yes.  Just what I thought.  I think someone over there is lighting fires but there's no agriculture at all."

Alien 2: "Neat.  We rarely find one at that state with direct observation.  I'll set one of the scopes to look at it once every 100 of its revolutions.  If they get to an industrial period and start using electromagnetic communication and nuclear power, we'll gather the information and wait a 1000 years or so to see if they can avoid blowing the shiat out of themselves or plugging their entire race into simulated reality....then maybe we'll talk to them."
 
2018-01-12 11:32:09 AM  
I thought the rule was we don't get contacted until we develop warp technology.
 
2018-01-12 12:00:02 PM  
looking for them all wrong?  perhaps we need to wear special sunglasses.
 
2018-01-12 12:00:29 PM  
Drakes Equation...

We have to have similar technology overlap during the same time period.

Maybe they did take a look at our planet it just happened to be during the Jurrasic period and thought that intelligent life wasn't going to evolve here.
 
2018-01-12 12:01:46 PM  
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2018-01-12 12:02:49 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Drakes Equation...

We have to have similar technology overlap during the same time period.

Maybe they did take a look at our planet it just happened to be during the Jurrasic period and thought that intelligent life wasn't going to evolve here.


Do far, they are correct.
 
2018-01-12 12:14:31 PM  

Jack Sabbath: Radio signals do not travel at the speed of light so some of the math in the article is wrong, but still an interesting read.


I can't get to TFA, but does it say we no longer consider space to be a vacuum?
 
2018-01-12 12:15:35 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Drakes Equation...

We have to have similar technology overlap during the same time period.

Maybe they did take a look at our planet it just happened to be during the Jurrasic period and thought that intelligent life wasn't going to evolve here.


They actually wiped out the dinosours hoping evolution would create something better here, but last time they checked they found we only had a small talent for war.
 
2018-01-12 12:15:38 PM  
Or are they looking at us all wrong?

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2018-01-12 12:22:53 PM  
We're sure as hell not going to find the answer in a Forbes link.
 
2018-01-12 12:23:41 PM  
It's been awhile since we had one of these Fermi/Drake threads, but there was a point where we would get one every few months (like here and here and here and here and here and here and here).

My educated guess is: The galaxy is teeming with life. But it's not very interesting life -- lichen and such. We're probably the first life that knows how to get off its own planet.
 
2018-01-12 12:24:17 PM  
In the meantime, Alpha Centauri would like to chat about Janet Jackson's nipple incident.
 
2018-01-12 12:25:59 PM  

Jack Sabbath: Radio signals do not travel at the speed of light so some of the math in the article is wrong

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Dispersion from the interstellar medium is really, really small.
 
2018-01-12 12:27:53 PM  
Personally, I'm not sold on the human race. I'm holding out for something better before I reveal myself.
 
2018-01-12 12:33:09 PM  

Ishkur: It's been awhile since we had one of these Fermi/Drake threads, but there was a point where we would get one every few months (like here and here and here and here and here and here and here).

My educated guess is: The galaxy is teeming with life. But it's not very interesting life -- lichen and such. We're probably the first life that knows how to get off its own planet.


Oh, and here
 
2018-01-12 12:49:08 PM  
Ceiling aliens are probably watching me masturbate.  Which really I'm fine with.
 
2018-01-12 12:51:42 PM  
Forbs is the new Popular Mechanics now?
 
2018-01-12 01:03:20 PM  
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2018-01-12 01:07:49 PM  
Maybe they're detecting our adblockers.
 
2018-01-12 01:33:33 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Drakes Equation...

We have to have similar technology overlap during the same time period.

Maybe they did take a look at our planet it just happened to be during the Jurrasic period and thought that intelligent life wasn't going to evolve here.


Hell, we can't even achieve simultaneous orgasms, how we gonna do THIS?
 
2018-01-12 01:49:17 PM  

Wave Of Anal Fury: We're sure as hell not going to find the answer in a Forbes link.


Maybe that's why you're not seeing them.
 
2018-01-12 01:51:20 PM  

jaggspb: looking for them all wrong?  perhaps we need to wear special sunglasses.


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2018-01-12 02:25:26 PM  

Ishkur: .

My educated guess is: The galaxy is teeming with life. But it's not very interesting life -- lichen and such. We're probably the first life that knows how to get off its own planet.


Or the only life close enough to us to notice that knows how to get off its own planet.
Or the first life that CARES about getting off its own planet.
 
2018-01-12 02:37:41 PM  
I still think this is totally possible, yes.

We sit here from our one corner, and talk about universal observations, like we own the place.
 
2018-01-12 03:25:14 PM  

big pig peaches: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Drakes Equation...

We have to have similar technology overlap during the same time period.

Maybe they did take a look at our planet it just happened to be during the Jurrasic period and thought that intelligent life wasn't going to evolve here.

They actually wiped out the dinosours hoping evolution would create something better here, but last time they checked they found we only had a small talent for war.


I always love this reference
 
2018-01-12 05:01:02 PM  
Stock "Flickr image" my ass. That's a screenshot from Star Trek Online.

There's a warp trail and a Federation-y looking designed ship, but I can't tell on mobile which hull type that is. The star is Lukari (kinda unique ingame).

/It's Forbes, what did I expect?
 
2018-01-12 07:18:56 PM  
My theory is that there has to be a first intelligent species to become technologically advanced to leave their solar system. Why couldn't it be humans?
 
2018-01-12 08:10:01 PM  
It's possible that aliens have dropped by the solar system before humans even existed, or even before we had an ability to detect them.

Or they have been recently, and said their equivalent of "NOPE". I wouldn't blame them.
 
2018-01-12 10:05:07 PM  
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2018-01-12 10:34:58 PM  

jars.traptone: I still think this is totally possible, yes.

We sit here from our one corner, and talk about universal observations, like we own the place.

So Earth is like the U.S.A. of the Galaxy?
 
2018-01-13 10:16:48 AM  
iReckon the core planets are seeded with old civilizations. Hopefully, if we ever make contact, we'll be annexed into a benevolent empire and not used a cattle.

Also we have a small talent for war.
 
2018-01-13 08:18:30 PM  

doonerpjenkins: iReckon the core planets are seeded with old civilizations. Hopefully, if we ever make contact, we'll be annexed into a benevolent empire and not used a cattle.


Why not both? The benevolent empire might need us cattle.
 
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