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2018-01-03 01:10:55 PM  
Of course he never wanted to win. He never planned on winning. His goal was to throw so much shiat at Hillary that her presidency would be crippled with fake scandals and allegations.

From there he'd get his Russia pay (Putin wants America destabilized, nothing more) and be able to start his Trump News Network with alt-right news alt-the time.

His worst mistake was running. His worst nightmare is winning.
 
2018-01-03 01:20:17 PM  
He never wanted to win and the American public has been losing ever since.
 
2018-01-03 01:21:36 PM  
Sounds like they're going to have to completely redo the presidential bedroom after he leaves.
 
2018-01-03 01:21:52 PM  
Everybody in his rich-guy social circle knew about his wide-ranging ignorance. Early in the campaign, Sam Nunberg was sent to explain the Constitution to the candidate. "I got as far as the Fourth Amendment," Nunberg recalled, "before his finger is pulling down on his lip and his eyes are rolling back in his head."

Jesus F*cking Christ.
 
2018-01-03 01:24:03 PM  
I can't find it, but there is a picture from election night, right after the results are all in, that shows him looking absolutely mortified he's won. Everyone around him looks elated, but he is just sitting there with an "oh fark" look on his face
 
2018-01-03 01:24:26 PM  
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2018-01-03 01:24:55 PM  
F*cking duh.
 
2018-01-03 01:25:31 PM  
We couldn't tell.  Absolutely no indication at all.
 
2018-01-03 01:25:46 PM  
Anyone paying attention knew this all along.
The problem is half of our country can't be asked to pay a rat's fart of attention to anything that's not happening directly in front of them.
 
2018-01-03 01:25:55 PM  
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2018-01-03 01:26:06 PM  
Thanks again for electing this asshole, you assholes.
 
2018-01-03 01:26:22 PM  
I wouldn't think any less of him* if he chose to resign.

*I am in fact, incapable of thinking any less of him so...
 
2018-01-03 01:26:42 PM  
It's not aliens buuuut.... The Notorious HRC took a dive....

/ it's aliens

// I could be serious
 
2018-01-03 01:26:43 PM  
So what's the source for this?

Because I understand confirmation bias, and reading this, for me, is like an overdose of confirmation bias.

I so want it to be true, but I can't quite bring myself to believe it (or anything political) anymore.
 
2018-01-03 01:26:49 PM  
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Like FARK, The New Yorker must have just been re-stocked.
 
2018-01-03 01:27:04 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Of course he never wanted to win. He never planned on winning. His goal was to throw so much shiat at Hillary that her presidency would be crippled with fake scandals and allegations.

From there he'd get his Russia pay (Putin wants America destabilized, nothing more) and be able to start his Trump News Network with alt-right news alt-the time.

His worst mistake was running. His worst nightmare is winning.


That's gonna be the tagline for the movie.
 
2018-01-03 01:27:21 PM  

Big Floppy Donkey Dick Nixon: I can't find it, but there is a picture from election night, right after the results are all in, that shows him looking absolutely mortified he's won. Everyone around him looks elated, but he is just sitting there with an "oh fark" look on his face


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This one?
 
2018-01-03 01:28:01 PM  
THEN RESIGN YOU LYING PIECE OF shiatE!
 
2018-01-03 01:28:27 PM  
This entire story has the ring of truth to it.
 
2018-01-03 01:28:30 PM  
Yup, somebody called the Oval Office the "crown jewel of federal penal system" Trump has learned how accurate that is.
 
2018-01-03 01:28:31 PM  
No shiat. He wanted to lose and spend his last few years ranting about how the election was 'rigged' by Hillary on his very own news network.

Unfortunately, Putin and/or the GOP didn't plan on losing, and tipped the scales in his favor. And now we're here.
 
2018-01-03 01:29:01 PM  

skyotter: Thanks again for electing this asshole, you assholes.


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2018-01-03 01:29:37 PM  
The only problem with this theory is the obvious one:  if he didn't want to be President then, why does he want to be President now?  It's not like the job is getting any easier or less stressful.  And he'd make a ton of money off of rubes if he resigned and blamed "the deep state" or "Killary" or some other nonsense for making his job impossible.

Bottom line is, as President Trump is hated by the people he wants to impress, and his base is comprised of the poor, uneducated folks he's looked down on his entire life.  As former President, he can make money off those poor, uneducated folks--and really, making money off of the easily-scammed is the only thing he's ever shown a real passion for doing--and the people he wants to impress will find someone else to hate.  But he's showing no interest in becoming a former President.  So maybe he does want to be the leader after all.
 
2018-01-03 01:30:07 PM  
The official presidential seal:

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2018-01-03 01:30:13 PM  
If this is supposed to make me feel better, it's failing.

If the farkface in Chief doesn't want the job, he knows what he can do about that.
 
2018-01-03 01:30:19 PM  

FortyHams: Sounds like they're going to have to completely redo the presidential bedroom after he leaves.


I'd call in Hazmat teams if it was up to me.
 
2018-01-03 01:30:20 PM  
The Saddest Music in the World
 
2018-01-03 01:30:38 PM  
That "news article" reads like fan fiction.

For example:  did Murdock REALLY say "what a f*cking idiot"?  And to whom?  And who else heard it?  Was that really reported to someone?  Or are we just speculation as to what went on behind the scenes?
 
2018-01-03 01:30:42 PM  

The Third Man: The only problem with this theory is the obvious one:  if he didn't want to be President then, why does he want to be President now?  It's not like the job is getting any easier or less stressful.  And he'd make a ton of money off of rubes if he resigned and blamed "the deep state" or "Killary" or some other nonsense for making his job impossible.

Bottom line is, as President Trump is hated by the people he wants to impress, and his base is comprised of the poor, uneducated folks he's looked down on his entire life.  As former President, he can make money off those poor, uneducated folks--and really, making money off of the easily-scammed is the only thing he's ever shown a real passion for doing--and the people he wants to impress will find someone else to hate.  But he's showing no interest in becoming a former President.  So maybe he does want to be the leader after all.


He didn't want to be President. But he's too narcissistic to actually quit, even if he DID blame it on everyone else.
 
2018-01-03 01:30:46 PM  

Big Floppy Donkey Dick Nixon: I can't find it, but there is a picture from election night, right after the results are all in, that shows him looking absolutely mortified he's won. Everyone around him looks elated, but he is just sitting there with an "oh fark" look on his face


Everyone gets that look. The job ages people. It's like Moses coming down the mountain after having stood in the presence of God. Each year as President is like 4 in normal years.
 
2018-01-03 01:31:13 PM  
You guys are making this seem like it was all an accident and there's no conspiracy. I know for a fact it was the deep sea squid people
 
2018-01-03 01:31:17 PM  
Seriously, why would anyone in their right mind ever want to become president?
 
2018-01-03 01:31:27 PM  

StrikitRich: [scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.com image 480x480]

Like FARK, The New Yorker must have just been re-stocked.

The New Yorker

and New Yorkare two completely different publications.
 
2018-01-03 01:31:48 PM  

scottydoesntknow: (Putin wants America destabilized, nothing more)


NATO can no longer trust the United States.

The United States ceded economic influence in South East Asia and Central/South America to China.

The United States has lost credibility and reliability for future international negotiations for several decades (whose gonna trust a President the US will keep its word?).

ad infinitum.

He got what he wanted.
 
2018-01-03 01:31:51 PM  

Snapper Carr: I wouldn't think any less of him* if he chose to resign.

*I am in fact, incapable of thinking any less of him so...


That would leave Pence in charge. Not sure you've thought your cunning plan all the way through here.
 
2018-01-03 01:32:12 PM  

StrikitRich: [scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.com image 480x480]

Like FARK, The New Yorker must have just been re-stocked.


I'm sorry. I prefer trolls who know the difference between the New Yorker and New York Magazine.
 
2018-01-03 01:32:16 PM  

The Third Man: The only problem with this theory is the obvious one:  if he didn't want to be President then, why does he want to be President now?  It's not like the job is getting any easier or less stressful.  And he'd make a ton of money off of rubes if he resigned and blamed "the deep state" or "Killary" or some other nonsense for making his job impossible.

Bottom line is, as President Trump is hated by the people he wants to impress, and his base is comprised of the poor, uneducated folks he's looked down on his entire life.  As former President, he can make money off those poor, uneducated folks--and really, making money off of the easily-scammed is the only thing he's ever shown a real passion for doing--and the people he wants to impress will find someone else to hate.  But he's showing no interest in becoming a former President.  So maybe he does want to be the leader after all.


It's not obvious to you?
His ego won't let him, neither will his handlers.
And, he's banking a shiat load of money from this deal.
 
2018-01-03 01:32:23 PM  

steklo: Seriously, why would anyone in their right mind ever want to become president?


Right!... and that's why every president gets progressively worse.
 
2018-01-03 01:32:30 PM  

Cthulhukefka: Big Floppy Donkey Dick Nixon: I can't find it, but there is a picture from election night, right after the results are all in, that shows him looking absolutely mortified he's won. Everyone around him looks elated, but he is just sitting there with an "oh fark" look on his face

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This one?


And, right behind an elated Mike Pence stands Donnie Half Scoop with a shiateatting grin on his face:
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2018-01-03 01:32:32 PM  

Big Floppy Donkey Dick Nixon: I can't find it, but there is a picture from election night, right after the results are all in, that shows him looking absolutely mortified he's won. Everyone around him looks elated, but he is just sitting there with an "oh fark" look on his face


It's a lot more fun to fleece the rubes than it is to actually have to make decisions. I see that constantly in my work as a consultant. I can tell who is farking trouble right off the bat, they are the people in the pissing contest over some technological change that don't want to take responsibility. There are plenty of managers, and consultants, who do not actually want their way to win they just want to be on record the other option is bad.

From there you fleece the rubes. Trump expected to lose. Losing would have given him the opportunity to biatch about voter fraud and whatnot, and fleece the rubes. He could fleece them with the Trump Truth News Network. He could fleece them with books touting conspiracy theories. He could fleece them into donating money for worthless Trump PACs where his family gets paid well. (I should start a "conservative" PAC and fleece a bunch of morons, unfortunately I'm too ethical) Selling "Trump should've won" merchandise like hats, and keep selling that MAGA stuff too.

Winning was the best/worst thing to happen to him. He's got a platform, not the one he wanted, to fleece the rubes. Unfortunately his campaign was staffed by morons who couldn't keep their mouths shut, and now his entire financial empire is under scrutiny which is probably giving him ulcers.
 
2018-01-03 01:32:35 PM  

kliq: StrikitRich: [scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.com image 480x480]

Like FARK, The New Yorker must have just been re-stocked.

The New Yorker and New York are two completely different publications.


What the bleep, Fark? My post was completely jacked up. Back to drinking, I suppose.
 
2018-01-03 01:32:39 PM  

StrikitRich: [scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.com image 480x480]
Like FARK, The New Yorker must have just been re-stocked.


Your projector needs a new bulb.
 
2018-01-03 01:32:40 PM  

FortyHams: Sounds like they're going to have to completely redo the presidential bedroom after he leaves.


Tearing down the steel and concrete barrier that Melania had built down the center of the bed is going to be difficult.
 
2018-01-03 01:32:57 PM  
Don't buy the premise of this article at all. No doubt many in Trump's circle who weren't in the know thought Trump couldn't win. Others knew he would win because he knew the Russians would corrupt the balloting in key precincts in key states.
 
2018-01-03 01:33:12 PM  

StrikitRich: [scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.com image 480x480]

Like FARK, The New Yorker must have just been re-stocked.


That would make a pretty shiatty gun oil. Don't alt-right derps know shiat about guns?
 
2018-01-03 01:33:26 PM  

skyotter: Thanks again for electing this asshole, you assholes.


It's kinda my fault. I was jokingly chanting "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Reagan R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn" the entire time. I think something heard me.

/ on a related note; anyone know how to get rid of giant space mollusks?
 
2018-01-03 01:33:36 PM  
Ailes had a suggestion: John Boehner, who had stepped down as Speaker of the House only a year earlier.

"Who's that?" asked Trump.


Hooooly shiat
 
2018-01-03 01:34:04 PM  
He might be my new favorite artist.

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d23 [BareFark]
2018-01-03 01:34:23 PM  

StrikitRich: [scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.com image 480x480]

Like FARK, The New Yorker must have just been re-stocked.


When you have nothing counter argument, go with the Hillary card.

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2018-01-03 01:34:46 PM  

steklo: Seriously, why would anyone in their right mind ever want to become president?


No one in his right mind did.
 
2018-01-03 01:35:11 PM  
Well, that's it. Now I'm seriously on the fence about voting for Donald Trump.
 
2018-01-03 01:35:13 PM  
Because quitting would be admitting he couldn't handle the job. It's that simple: it would kill his ego to admit he couldn't handle it.
 
2018-01-03 01:35:52 PM  

The Third Man: The only problem with this theory is the obvious one:  if he didn't want to be President then, why does he want to be President now?  It's not like the job is getting any easier or less stressful.  And he'd make a ton of money off of rubes if he resigned and blamed "the deep state" or "Killary" or some other nonsense for making his job impossible.

Bottom line is, as President Trump is hated by the people he wants to impress, and his base is comprised of the poor, uneducated folks he's looked down on his entire life.  As former President, he can make money off those poor, uneducated folks--and really, making money off of the easily-scammed is the only thing he's ever shown a real passion for doing--and the people he wants to impress will find someone else to hate.  But he's showing no interest in becoming a former President.  So maybe he does want to be the leader after all.


He has learned the Eternal Truth:

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2018-01-03 01:36:19 PM  
Just another Soros funded hit peice on Daddy.
 
2018-01-03 01:36:59 PM  

StrikitRich: [scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.com image 480x480]

Like FARK, The New Yorker must have just been re-stocked.


LOL U CANT EVEN REED
 
2018-01-03 01:37:08 PM  

Officer Barrelroll: He might be my new favorite artist.

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2018-01-03 01:37:10 PM  
The US stopped being a global super power the moment we elected him.
I'm just wondering if and when things like the UN move to another country or NATO dissolves.
 
Should we start a pool?
 
2018-01-03 01:37:22 PM  

Officer Barrelroll: He might be my new favorite artist.

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I like how what's her name is crying
 
2018-01-03 01:38:12 PM  
5 years ago, I wrote a spec pilot for a writing class in which a wildly ignorant, irresponsible, corrupt congressman tries to sabotage his own presidential campaign, but it backfires because the American people are so farking dumb that his polls go up with every idiotic, disgusting move.

I wrote that shiat five years ago.
 
2018-01-03 01:38:23 PM  
I hope every day is a fresh hell of regret and unhapp
 
2018-01-03 01:38:34 PM  
“Trumped' Starring Matthew Broderick & Nathan Lane
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Turns out to not be satire
 
2018-01-03 01:38:40 PM  
...iness for him.
 
2018-01-03 01:38:59 PM  
I've been calling this since the beginning, he just wanted that sweet campaign donation money and sales from those stupid hats.

My proof is when he upped the rents for his campaign offices as soon as he was nominated and use the GOP coffers to pay for them. This is like a real life producers.
 
2018-01-03 01:39:34 PM  
Some great men reach for greatness, Some have greatness pushed upon them.
 
2018-01-03 01:39:40 PM  
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/inspiro.
//Something something... dark side.
 
2018-01-03 01:40:23 PM  
America's first Flop Sweat President

This is why he literally runs his presidency based on Fox & Friends, he never had any idea what his politics were to begin with.
 
2018-01-03 01:40:25 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Of course he never wanted to win. He never planned on winning. His goal was to throw so much shiat at Hillary that her presidency would be crippled with fake scandals and allegations.

From there he'd get his Russia pay (Putin wants America destabilized, nothing more) and be able to start his Trump News Network with alt-right news alt-the time.

His worst mistake was running. His worst nightmare is winning.


Just his?.
 
2018-01-03 01:40:27 PM  

skyotter: Thanks again for electing this asshole, you assholes.


This.
 
2018-01-03 01:40:52 PM  

steklo: Seriously, why would anyone in their right mind ever want to become president?


Immunity from crimes for their family
 
2018-01-03 01:40:52 PM  

El_Perro: [pbs.twimg.com image 850x412]


fark, I almost believed that to be real.
 
2018-01-03 01:41:25 PM  

StrikitRich: [scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.com image 480x480]

Like FARK, The New Yorker must have just been re-stocked.


this is what happens when the seriously disturbed folks have access to the internets.
what is even more terrifying is they vote and think mad max and the handmaids tale are how-to guides for humans.
 
2018-01-03 01:41:52 PM  

JDAT: Some great men reach for greatness, Some have greatness pushed upon them.


Here, grab some fruit...

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2018-01-03 01:42:21 PM  

El_Perro: [pbs.twimg.com image 850x412]


it's hard to tell what's real anymore, but no way in hell did tRump write that
 
2018-01-03 01:42:30 PM  

El_Perro: [pbs.twimg.com image 850x412]


Holy shiat, that's real?!
 
d23 [BareFark]
2018-01-03 01:42:33 PM  

deanis: Just another Soros funded hit peice on Daddy.


The conspiracy theories just get another level deep.
 
2018-01-03 01:42:48 PM  

raerae1980: The Third Man: The only problem with this theory is the obvious one:  if he didn't want to be President then, why does he want to be President now?  It's not like the job is getting any easier or less stressful.  And he'd make a ton of money off of rubes if he resigned and blamed "the deep state" or "Killary" or some other nonsense for making his job impossible.

Bottom line is, as President Trump is hated by the people he wants to impress, and his base is comprised of the poor, uneducated folks he's looked down on his entire life.  As former President, he can make money off those poor, uneducated folks--and really, making money off of the easily-scammed is the only thing he's ever shown a real passion for doing--and the people he wants to impress will find someone else to hate.  But he's showing no interest in becoming a former President.  So maybe he does want to be the leader after all.

It's not obvious to you?
His ego won't let him, neither will his handlers.
And, he's banking a shiat load of money from this deal.


But Trump has often quit during his career and spun it as a victory.  I don't see why he couldn't do the same here.  He already laid the groundwork for it by complaining about everybody and everything being against him--that seems tailor made as a precursor to quitting.

It's simply not true that people with big egos refuse to quit.  They do, but in their minds they don't see it as quitting.
 
2018-01-03 01:43:02 PM  

Delta1212: Ailes had a suggestion: John Boehner, who had stepped down as Speaker of the House only a year earlier.

"Who's that?" asked Trump.

Hooooly shiat


Is it possible he's that senile already? I suppose. But...
 
2018-01-03 01:43:10 PM  
Called it during the primary,what do I win?
 
2018-01-03 01:43:12 PM  

Snatch Bandergrip: 5 years ago, I wrote a spec pilot for a writing class in which a wildly ignorant, irresponsible, corrupt congressman tries to sabotage his own presidential campaign, but it backfires because the American people are so farking dumb that his polls go up with every idiotic, disgusting move.

I wrote that shiat five years ago.


The Mouse That Roared.
 
2018-01-03 01:43:13 PM  

xanadian: That "news article" reads like fan fiction.

 
2018-01-03 01:43:17 PM  

The Third Man: The only problem with this theory is the obvious one:  if he didn't want to be President then, why does he want to be President now?  It's not like the job is getting any easier or less stressful.  And he'd make a ton of money off of rubes if he resigned and blamed "the deep state" or "Killary" or some other nonsense for making his job impossible.

Bottom line is, as President Trump is hated by the people he wants to impress, and his base is comprised of the poor, uneducated folks he's looked down on his entire life.  As former President, he can make money off those poor, uneducated folks--and really, making money off of the easily-scammed is the only thing he's ever shown a real passion for doing--and the people he wants to impress will find someone else to hate.  But he's showing no interest in becoming a former President.  So maybe he does want to be the leader after all.


Read the story. It's basically a psychotic break that occurred a few hours after the election was called. Life gave him shiat, he decided to make shiat-ade.
 
2018-01-03 01:43:18 PM  
Drumpf, in fact, found the White House to be vexing and even a little scary. He retreated to his own bedroom - the first time since the Kennedy White House that a presidential couple had maintained separate rooms. In the first days, he ordered two television screens in addition to the one already there, and a lock on the door, precipitating a brief standoff with the Secret Service, who insisted they have access to the room. He reprimanded the housekeeping staff for picking up his shirt from the floor: "If my shirt is on the floor, it's because I want it on the floor." Then he imposed a set of new rules: Nobody touch anything, especially not his toothbrush. (He had a longtime fear of being poisoned, one reason why he liked to eat at McDonald's - nobody knew he was coming and the food was safely premade.) Also, he would let housekeeping know when he wanted his sheets done, and he would strip his own bed.

What a farking weirdo.
/this country is so boned.
 
2018-01-03 01:43:18 PM  
So he committed treason and colluded too well?  And accidentally got himself elected?
 
2018-01-03 01:43:23 PM  

Harlee: Snapper Carr: I wouldn't think any less of him* if he chose to resign.

*I am in fact, incapable of thinking any less of him so...

That would leave Pence in charge. Not sure you've thought your cunning plan all the way through here.


I'm pretty sure that not having to worry about nuclear destruction every time North Korea says mean things is worth having Pence.

It's not like Trump isn't advancing all of the worst parts of a Pence presidency anyway.
 
2018-01-03 01:43:26 PM  
I doubt Trump will resign at this point.  He knows Mueller is coming for him.  As long as he is President, they will have to go through the impeachment process.  If he was a civilian they could just arrest him outright.  Trump will have to be dragged our screaming before he goes.  The best part is that every person that has ever had contact with Trump is being looked at through this investigation, he basically gave all his friends and business partners the death sentence by becoming POTUS.
 
2018-01-03 01:43:32 PM  

d23: deanis: Just another Soros funded hit peice on Daddy.

The conspiracy theories just get another level deep derper.

 
2018-01-03 01:43:42 PM  

Harlee: Snapper Carr: I wouldn't think any less of him* if he chose to resign.

*I am in fact, incapable of thinking any less of him so...

That would leave Pence in charge. Not sure you've thought your cunning plan all the way through here.


Pence is a god bothering idiot and would be a disaster but he appears to know how to act in a way that resembles a mature adult.

Regardless of what happens with Mueller's investigation or the midterms, there's no good outcome in the short term. Pence might be the least terrible option should D2S vacate the position.
 
2018-01-03 01:43:42 PM  

Archidude: FortyHams: Sounds like they're going to have to completely redo the presidential bedroom after he leaves.

Tearing down the steel and concrete barrier that Melania had built down the center of the bed is going to be difficult.


According to the article they're the first couple since Kennedy to sleep in separate rooms. The difference being that JFK's room was too full of young women and Trump's is just full of big mac wrappers and dirty clothes.
 
2018-01-03 01:44:01 PM  

Bloody William: El_Perro: [pbs.twimg.com image 850x412]

fark, I almost believed that to be real.


I think it is.
 
2018-01-03 01:44:05 PM  
I kept making jokes about a lucky monkey having a better shot than Hillary, now here we are, and the monkey doesn't want the job.
 
2018-01-03 01:44:15 PM  

The Third Man: his base is comprised of the poor, uneducated folks he's looked down on his entire life


his base is upper middle class Boomer-and-older suburbanites who want to (1) pay less taxes and (2) be openly racist again
 
d23 [BareFark]
2018-01-03 01:44:19 PM  

SamFlagg: I'm pretty sure that not having to worry about nuclear destruction every time North Korea says mean things is worth having Pence.

It's not like Trump isn't advancing all of the worst parts of a Pence presidency anyway.


And we can continue to have people turn their back on him at commencement, baseball games, etc.
 
2018-01-03 01:44:26 PM  
letthemfight.gif
 
2018-01-03 01:44:31 PM  
A lazy cowardly president for a lazy cowardly America.
 
2018-01-03 01:45:13 PM  
 
2018-01-03 01:45:15 PM  

shinji3i: scottydoesntknow: (Putin wants America destabilized, nothing more)

NATO can no longer trust the United States.

The United States ceded economic influence in South East Asia and Central/South America to China.

The United States has lost credibility and reliability for future international negotiations for several decades (whose gonna trust a President the US will keep its word?).

ad infinitum.

He got what he wanted.

gave Putin what he wanted.

FTFY
 
2018-01-03 01:45:29 PM  

El_Perro: [pbs.twimg.com image 850x412]


You wanna know how I know it's fake? This is not how he talks.
 
2018-01-03 01:45:39 PM  
Just quit
 
2018-01-03 01:45:45 PM  

koinbahd: El_Perro: [pbs.twimg.com image 850x412]

http://thehill.com/homenews/administra​tion/367253-trump-bannon-has-lost-his-​mind

Holy shiat that's real?!?!


Holy fark it's real.
 
2018-01-03 01:45:49 PM  

Weatherkiss: Well, that's it. Now I'm seriously on the fence about voting for Donald Trump.


I admire your devotion to the cause.
 
2018-01-03 01:46:10 PM  
A 3 million vote margin in a country of over 200 million eligible voters isn't exactly redeeming of the electorate . . . .
 
2018-01-03 01:46:58 PM  
Trump believes the book is on the level and is lashing out at Bannon.
 
MFK
2018-01-03 01:46:58 PM  

xanadian: That "news article" reads like fan fiction.

For example:  did Murdock REALLY say "what a f*cking idiot"?  And to whom?  And who else heard it?  Was that really reported to someone?  Or are we just speculation as to what went on behind the scenes?


it's not breitbart. it's the New Yorker. I'm pretty sure that they know that you can't just make shiat up and publish it.
 
2018-01-03 01:47:04 PM  

iheartscotch: skyotter: Thanks again for electing this asshole, you assholes.

It's kinda my fault. I was jokingly chanting "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Reagan R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn" the entire time. I think something heard me.

/ on a related note; anyone know how to get rid of giant space mollusks?


They're telepathically connected to the viruses in your brain. The only thing you can do is astro-project into your spirit form and abandon your physical body. I've done a lot of research on the topic
 
2018-01-03 01:48:09 PM  

Snapper Carr: I wouldn't think any less of him* if he chose to resign.

*I am in fact, incapable of thinking any less of him so...


I would in fact respect him more if he did and said something like "I am resigning because I am woefully unprepared for this responsibility"

Of course there is no way he would do that
 
2018-01-03 01:48:31 PM  

MFK: xanadian: That "news article" reads like fan fiction.

For example:  did Murdock REALLY say "what a f*cking idiot"?  And to whom?  And who else heard it?  Was that really reported to someone?  Or are we just speculation as to what went on behind the scenes?

it's not breitbart. it's the New Yorker. I'm pretty sure that they know that you can't just make shiat up and publish it.


Plus it explains how the reporting was gathered at the end.
 
MFK
2018-01-03 01:48:54 PM  

MFK: xanadian: That "news article" reads like fan fiction.

For example:  did Murdock REALLY say "what a f*cking idiot"?  And to whom?  And who else heard it?  Was that really reported to someone?  Or are we just speculation as to what went on behind the scenes?

it's not breitbart. it's the New Yorker. I'm pretty sure that they know that you can't just make shiat up and publish it.


whoops. New York Mag. Still an old enough pub to know what you can and cannot print.
 
2018-01-03 01:48:55 PM  

This text is now purple: Big Floppy Donkey Dick Nixon: I can't find it, but there is a picture from election night, right after the results are all in, that shows him looking absolutely mortified he's won. Everyone around him looks elated, but he is just sitting there with an "oh fark" look on his face

Everyone gets that look. The job ages people. It's like Moses coming down the mountain after having stood in the presence of God. Each year as President is like 4 in normal years.


But in this picture he only had the job for about 7 minutes.
 
2018-01-03 01:49:00 PM  
This just in, a cache of top secret HRC emails has been found on the computer of a guy who goes by the name Strongbad.
 
2018-01-03 01:49:09 PM  

The Third Man: and his base is comprised of the poor, uneducated folks he's looked down on his entire life.


Nope. What ElwoodCuse said. Trump won whites of every income level. He ran on racism and won on racism because America is f*cking racist.
 
2018-01-03 01:49:29 PM  
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Whether he wants to be there or not, he's there. He's there for another 3 more years.
 
2018-01-03 01:49:31 PM  

TedDalton: So he committed treason and colluded too well?  And accidentally got himself elected?


All he wanted was some loans forgiven and a hotel in Moscow. He didn't even want to survive the primaries.
 
2018-01-03 01:50:23 PM  

Officer Barrelroll: He might be my new favorite artist.

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This one is my favorite:

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This is what an unhinged crazy person looks like.
 
2018-01-03 01:50:27 PM  

doctorguilty: Anyone paying attention knew this all along.
The problem is half of our country can't be asked to pay a rat's fart of attention to anything that's not happening directly in front of them.


Ohh, they are paying attention and they like his message.   All things said and done they are still running around with the Trump swag like they are political prisoners.
 
2018-01-03 01:50:33 PM  

CygnusDarius: El_Perro: [pbs.twimg.com image 850x412]

You wanna know how I know it's fake? This is not how he talks.


I believe he didn't right it, it would be like finding out Dr. Seuess ghostwrote "The Godfather", but was it really an official white house release?
 
2018-01-03 01:50:57 PM  

MFK: xanadian: That "news article" reads like fan fiction.

For example:  did Murdock REALLY say "what a f*cking idiot"?  And to whom?  And who else heard it?  Was that really reported to someone?  Or are we just speculation as to what went on behind the scenes?

it's not breitbart. it's the New Yorker. I'm pretty sure that they know that you can't just make shiat up and publish it.


It's NOT the New Yorker! (But New York Magazine also knows you can't just make shiat up and publish it.)
 
2018-01-03 01:51:39 PM  

El_Perro: [pbs.twimg.com image 850x412]


Holy shiat this is real.
 
2018-01-03 01:53:06 PM  
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Mother of God, this actually happened.
 
2018-01-03 01:53:10 PM  

iheartscotch: skyotter: Thanks again for electing this asshole, you assholes.

It's kinda my fault. I was jokingly chanting "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Reagan R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn" the entire time. I think something heard me.

/ on a related note; anyone know how to get rid of giant space mollusks?


It depends.  Do they taste good in a garlic and butter sauce?
 
2018-01-03 01:53:58 PM  

darkeyes: his friends and business partners


Who?
 
2018-01-03 01:54:20 PM  
Theres a doins-a-transprining, and I got a feeling now that we are back from Christmas/New Years its time to release the Kraken.
 
2018-01-03 01:54:32 PM  
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2018-01-03 01:54:57 PM  

Bloody William: koinbahd: El_Perro: [pbs.twimg.com image 850x412]

http://thehill.com/homenews/administra​tion/367253-trump-bannon-has-lost-his-​mind

Holy shiat that's real?!?!

Holy fark it's real.


How long until "there were only 5 people that did anything for me. My, myself, I, my large adult son, and Putin."
 
2018-01-03 01:55:13 PM  
Christ onna crutch, this is NEWS?

Trump never wanted the JOB. He just wanted the adulation and attention that came with winning the popularity contest...even if he had to hack the electoral college to do so.

He's made his point. He "won".
Now, How about he please turn the job over to someone who is capable of actually DOING it (Not so fast there, Mike Pence, et al) and we'll all just pretend it never happened?
 
2018-01-03 01:55:46 PM  
So this means that Fox News and Brietbart are now at war???

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2018-01-03 01:56:06 PM  
This almost feels like a preemptive defense. If he can get people to accept that he didn't want to win he can then convincingly say, "Why would I collude with Russia to rig an election when I didn't want to win?"
 
2018-01-03 01:56:06 PM  
Whether the precise details are correct or not, the overall idea that Trump did not actually want to win is spot on.  A colleague referred to Trump' win as the dog who caught the car and is now thinking, "Uh oh, now what?"  Just look at how late he started on the process of filling key positions, and how many are still to be appointed.  How the RNC allowed this to happen is beyond comprehension.  Noting speaks more eloquently of the total dysfunction of the Republican party than Trump's election.
 
2018-01-03 01:56:17 PM  
Yep, must be true, Michael Wolff said so.......is he more or less credible than that Un-named Source guy?
 
2018-01-03 01:56:20 PM  
TFA is a story I would enjoy reading much more if he were already out of office. As it is, we have to live with knowledge that this moron still is the current occupant of the White House.
 
2018-01-03 01:56:21 PM  
This article is incredible. Can we just delete the rest of the politics tab and make this required reading for the next couple of days? Seriously enjoying this, thanks subby.
 
2018-01-03 01:56:22 PM  
Ya'll making me howl with laughter
 
2018-01-03 01:56:53 PM  
Here's the problem - Trump never expected/wanted  to win and Clinton never expected to lose.    And now we have a president that is tweeting nuclear war threats.    Congratulations America.   Somebody is going to jail, and it ain't going to be Hillary or Donald.
 
2018-01-03 01:56:53 PM  

Snatch Bandergrip: 5 years ago, I wrote a spec pilot for a writing class in which a wildly ignorant, irresponsible, corrupt congressman tries to sabotage his own presidential campaign, but it backfires because the American people are so farking dumb that his polls go up with every idiotic, disgusting move.

I wrote that shiat five years ago.


Well, you shouldn't have handed it out to everyone you saw.

Now look what you did.
 
2018-01-03 01:57:18 PM  

toraque: [img.fark.net image 738x430]

Mother of God, this actually happened.


Crap on a crutch.  I checked.  It actually IS.  WTF is going on?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-cana​d​a-42560520
 
2018-01-03 01:57:22 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Of course he never wanted to win. He never planned on winning.


Trump doesn't plan. He doesn't think of the future. He lives entirely in the moment. Is he at that moment getting the praise he craves, the attention he needs?

It's why he'll say anything to get a positive reaction, whether from an individual or a crowd. Consequences have never existed for him.

That's the frightening part: a shallow person, not too bright, who has never endured the slightest consequence from any decision or action.

Start a war? If it gets him adulation. If it makes him look tough.  He has the mind of a goldfish, nothing more than 30 seconds down the road exists for him.
 
kab
2018-01-03 01:57:39 PM  
There was footage shown after he won, of him getting a tour of the White House. The deer-in-the-headlights look on his face when being shown around was humorous.

skyotter: Thanks again for electing this asshole, you assholes.


Don't kid yourself.   Voters didn't put him in place, because voters don't elect presidents, no matter how you want to spin it.

The republican party is absolutely 100% responsible for anything and everything he does, and any fallout from his actions,  The right wing had their opportunity to show this guy the door in the summer of 2016, and decided not to.   And as generally shiatty as your field was, any one of them was better suited to lead than DJT is.

Since then, the right wing has embraced being portrayed as white supremacist sympathizers, advocates of nepotism. You've proudly displayed yourselves as proponents of foreign interference in the election process, and abuse of executive power.    None of this is debatable at all.

You've established a new low in what passes for candidate qualification, and will pander to any mindset or history as long as it pulls on the R lever.   Frankly, you ceasing to exist as a political party would be one of the better things to happen to the US.
 
2018-01-03 01:57:42 PM  

Snatch Bandergrip: I wrote that shiat five years ago.


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2018-01-03 01:57:54 PM  
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sTeVe BaNnOn HaD nOtHiNg To Do WiTh My PrEsIdEnCy. WhEn He LoSt HiS jOb He LoSt HiS mInD.
 
2018-01-03 01:58:05 PM  
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2018-01-03 01:58:25 PM  
Wow, incredible! Hillary couldn't even beat a guy who want to lose on purpose.
 
2018-01-03 01:58:30 PM  
Hillary's fatal mistake was that she did not recognize that 60 million people would be stupid enough to vote for Cheeto Mcshiatgibbon. And neither did Cheeto Mcshiatgibbon. Congratulations, 60 million people who are even less intelligent than Republican President Trump thought you were!
 
2018-01-03 01:58:45 PM  

Valis992000: Yep, must be true, Michael Wolff said so.......is he more or less credible than that Un-named Source guy?


Unnamed source has been knocking it out of the park lately.
 
2018-01-03 01:58:48 PM  

kliq: So this means that Fox News and Brietbart are now at war???

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2018-01-03 01:59:39 PM  

The Goddamn Batman: Everybody in his rich-guy social circle knew about his wide-ranging ignorance. Early in the campaign, Sam Nunberg was sent to explain the Constitution to the candidate. "I got as far as the Fourth Amendment," Nunberg recalled, "before his finger is pulling down on his lip and his eyes are rolling back in his head."

Jesus F*cking Christ.


There's no way he was doing it sequentially if Trump made it a all the way to the Bill of Rights.
 
2018-01-03 02:00:39 PM  

Sailing Starflower: So what's the source for this?

Because I understand confirmation bias, and reading this, for me, is like an overdose of confirmation bias.

I so want it to be true, but I can't quite bring myself to believe it (or anything political) anymore.


From the bottom of the article:

HOW HE GOT THE STORY

This story is adapted from Michael Wolff's book Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House, to be published by Henry Holt & Co. on January 9. Wolff, who chronicles the administration from Election Day to this past October, conducted conversations and interviews over a period of 18 months with the president, most members of his senior staff, and many people to whom they in turn spoke. Shortly after Trump's inauguration, Wolff says, he was able to take up "something like a semi-permanent seat on a couch in the West Wing" - an idea encouraged by the president himself. Because no one was in a position to either officially approve or formally deny such access, Wolff became "more a constant interloper than an invited guest." There were no ground rules placed on his access, and he was required to make no promises about how he would report on what he witnessed.
Since then, he conducted more than 200 interviews. In true Trumpian fashion, the administration's lack of experience and disdain for political norms made for a hodgepodge of journalistic challenges. Information would be provided off-the-record or on deep background, then casually put on the record. Sources would fail to set any parameters on the use of a conversation, or would provide accounts in confidence, only to subsequently share their views widely. And the president's own views, private as well as public, were constantly shared by others. The adaptation presented here offers a front-row view of Trump's presidency, from his improvised transition to his first months in the Oval Office.
 
2018-01-03 02:00:52 PM  
The moment the last few weeks of the election campaign they started talking more about TrumpTV than anything else it was obvious what the plan was. Hell, I can see his disgusting face smugly smirking over scrolling banners and graphics even too garish for Fox News as he tells his viewers they could have had him handling the bad situation of the hour but Crooked Hillary ruined it for them.
 
2018-01-03 02:01:44 PM  

BMFPitt: The Goddamn Batman: Everybody in his rich-guy social circle knew about his wide-ranging ignorance. Early in the campaign, Sam Nunberg was sent to explain the Constitution to the candidate. "I got as far as the Fourth Amendment," Nunberg recalled, "before his finger is pulling down on his lip and his eyes are rolling back in his head."

Jesus F*cking Christ.

There's no way he was doing it sequentially if Trump made it a all the way to the Bill of Rights.


He was fairly engaged with that because he thought it was going to be about Bill O'Reilly
 
2018-01-03 02:02:22 PM  
I swear this fool could take the actual declaration of independence and the constitution and set them on fire and 62 million of you farking retards would applaud him for it.
WHAT THE FARK IS WRONG WITH YOU, DID YOU GET DROPPED ON YOUR DAMN HEADS AS INFANTS ?
 
2018-01-03 02:02:31 PM  
I got about halfway through and closed it. All it does is reaffirm that people are shiatbags for electing this idiot.
 
2018-01-03 02:03:15 PM  

Prey4reign: And, right behind an elated Mike Pence stands Donnie Half Scoop with a shiateatting grin on his face:
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He's probably thinking "YES! If Daddy dies in office then I'LL become president!"
 
2018-01-03 02:03:35 PM  

The Third Man: The only problem with this theory is the obvious one:  if he didn't want to be President then, why does he want to be President now?  It's not like the job is getting any easier or less stressful.  And he'd make a ton of money off of rubes if he resigned and blamed "the deep state" or "Killary" or some other nonsense for making his job impossible.

Bottom line is, as President Trump is hated by the people he wants to impress, and his base is comprised of the poor, uneducated folks he's looked down on his entire life.  As former President, he can make money off those poor, uneducated folks--and really, making money off of the easily-scammed is the only thing he's ever shown a real passion for doing--and the people he wants to impress will find someone else to hate.  But he's showing no interest in becoming a former President.  So maybe he does want to be the leader after all.


This is just MHO...but methinks it's more a question of
"How do I get OUT of this, without losing face or admiration?
I want to keep all the 'base' cheering for me, admiring me, giving me their money.
How do I bail out of a job I don't want and still keep all the things I DO want?"
 
2018-01-03 02:03:47 PM  
Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.
 
2018-01-03 02:03:47 PM  

El_Perro: [pbs.twimg.com image 850x412]


For farks sakes, that's real?
 
2018-01-03 02:04:21 PM  

Bloody William: El_Perro: [pbs.twimg.com image 850x412]

fark, I almost believed that to be real.


IT IS!!!  IT'S REALLY REAL!!!
 
2018-01-03 02:05:06 PM  

This text is now purple: Big Floppy Donkey Dick Nixon: I can't find it, but there is a picture from election night, right after the results are all in, that shows him looking absolutely mortified he's won. Everyone around him looks elated, but he is just sitting there with an "oh fark" look on his face

Everyone gets that look. The job ages people. It's like Moses coming down the mountain after having stood in the presence of God. Each year as President is like 4 in normal years.


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On the left, 1858.  On the right, 1865.
 
2018-01-03 02:05:46 PM  
This explains why the victorious deplorables are such miserable coonts.
 
2018-01-03 02:06:21 PM  
I can believe that Trump didn't necessarily want to win. It's much harder to accept the idea that he was ok with losing to Hillary.
 
2018-01-03 02:06:33 PM  
Proof positive he wasn't the man America wanted. He was the man America needed. Molloch be damned! Meme magic has saved us from the demons! PRAISE KEK, BRINGER OF CHAOS AND DANK MEMES!

You realize we're not only in the best timeline, we're inside a Bill Murray movie! It's Stipes meets Ghostbusters meets Caddy shack meets Oliver Stone!

/Somewhere in upstate New York, in a secluded woods, Hillary Clinton has read this article and, after a psychotic break involving kidnapping her neighbor's Golden Retreiver, is busying herself kicking the piss out of its kidneys shreiking in rage and cursing the day she was born.
 
2018-01-03 02:06:37 PM  
n the afternoon of November 8, 2016, Kellyanne Conway settled into her glass office at Trump Tower. Right up until the last weeks of the race, the campaign headquarters had remained a listless place. All that seemed to distinguish it from a corporate back office were a few posters with right-wing slogans.
Conway, the campaign's manager, was in a remarkably buoyant mood, considering she was about to experience a resounding, if not cataclysmic, defeat. Donald Trump would lose the election - of this she was sure - but he would quite possibly hold the defeat to under six points. That was a substantial victory. As for the looming defeat itself, she shrugged it off: It was Reince Priebus's fault, not hers.
She had spent a good part of the day calling friends and allies in the political world and blaming Priebus, the chairman of the Republican National Committee. Now she briefed some of the television producers and anchors whom she had been carefully courting since joining the Trump campaign - and with whom she had been actively interviewing in the last few weeks, hoping to land a permanent on-air job after the election.
Even though the numbers in a few key states had appeared to be changing to Trump's advantage, neither Conway nor Trump himself nor his son-in-law, Jared Kushner - the effective head of the campaign - wavered in their certainty: Their unexpected adventure would soon be over. Not only would Trump not be president, almost everyone in the campaign agreed, he should probably not be. Conveniently, the former conviction meant nobody had to deal with the latter issue.
As the campaign came to an end, Trump himself was sanguine. His ultimate goal, after all, had never been to win. "I can be the most famous man in the world," he had told his aide Sam Nunberg at the outset of the race. His longtime friend Roger Ailes, the former head of Fox News, liked to say that if you want a career in television, first run for president. Now Trump, encouraged by Ailes, was floating rumors about a Trump network. It was a great future. He would come out of this campaign, Trump assured Ailes, with a far more powerful brand and untold opportunities.


Dear God, we all joked about it, but it's actually true....This was a The Producers campaign all along, and winning really was the disaster
 
2018-01-03 02:07:01 PM  

Mad Scientist: Drumpf, in fact, found the White House to be vexing and even a little scary. He retreated to his own bedroom - the first time since the Kennedy White House that a presidential couple had maintained separate rooms. In the first days, he ordered two television screens in addition to the one already there, and a lock on the door, precipitating a brief standoff with the Secret Service, who insisted they have access to the room. He reprimanded the housekeeping staff for picking up his shirt from the floor: "If my shirt is on the floor, it's because I want it on the floor." Then he imposed a set of new rules: Nobody touch anything, especially not his toothbrush. (He had a longtime fear of being poisoned, one reason why he liked to eat at McDonald's - nobody knew he was coming and the food was safely premade.) Also, he would let housekeeping know when he wanted his sheets done, and he would strip his own bed.

What a farking weirdo.
/this country is so boned.


Sooooooo he still wets the bed. Got it.
 
2018-01-03 02:08:02 PM  
I made a post last January basically predicting he'd hate the job because it was a 40 hour per day job, and he'd be overwhelmed with work, and people would be screaming at him all the time, and those would be the people actually trying to help him. His winning was the worst thing that could happen to us, and it was also the worst thing that could happen to him. Small comfort.
 
2018-01-03 02:08:15 PM  

SirEattonHogg: [img.fark.net image 850x478]

Whether he wants to be there or not, he's there.


Fact.

 He's there for another 3 more years.

Speculation.
 
2018-01-03 02:08:46 PM  

Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.


I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.
 
2018-01-03 02:09:11 PM  
Holy shiat I just stumbled upon this article, been stuck in other threads about yesterday's shiatstorm and some of today's.
My liver may not survive the day.
 
2018-01-03 02:09:39 PM  

Pats_Cloth_Coat: This text is now purple: Big Floppy Donkey Dick Nixon: I can't find it, but there is a picture from election night, right after the results are all in, that shows him looking absolutely mortified he's won. Everyone around him looks elated, but he is just sitting there with an "oh fark" look on his face

Everyone gets that look. The job ages people. It's like Moses coming down the mountain after having stood in the presence of God. Each year as President is like 4 in normal years.

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On the left, 1858.  On the right, 1865.


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2018-01-03 02:10:44 PM  

ElwoodCuse: The Third Man: his base is comprised of the poor, uneducated folks he's looked down on his entire life

his base is upper middle class Boomer-and-older suburbanites who want to (1) pay less taxes and (2) be openly racist again


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2018-01-03 02:10:46 PM  

The Third Man: The only problem with this theory is the obvious one:  if he didn't want to be President then, why does he want to be President now?  It's not like the job is getting any easier or less stressful.  And he'd make a ton of money off of rubes if he resigned and blamed "the deep state" or "Killary" or some other nonsense for making his job impossible.

Bottom line is, as President Trump is hated by the people he wants to impress, and his base is comprised of the poor, uneducated folks he's looked down on his entire life.  As former President, he can make money off those poor, uneducated folks--and really, making money off of the easily-scammed is the only thing he's ever shown a real passion for doing--and the people he wants to impress will find someone else to hate.  But he's showing no interest in becoming a former President.  So maybe he does want to be the leader after all.


It's not that he wants to be president now, it's just the only way he can stay out of prison for a little while longer.

As soon as he's out of that office, NY is going to unseal their indictment, and I'm betting that, given his properties in multiple countries and available transportation assets (including private planes that are capable of reaching Russia or other countries that won't extradite), there's pretty much no chance he's going to get bail.

If he leaves office alive (which is a pretty big if considering his health) there's nothing that's going to keep him from going to prison for the rest of his life.
 
2018-01-03 02:11:02 PM  
Kind of funny we got a wave of borschtbots and Trumpkins going off about liberal whining and tears exactly when the freaking White House released that garbled mass of insanity.
 
2018-01-03 02:11:26 PM  
LMAO. Getting a kick out of Trump attempting to disavow Bannon. "Steve who? You mean the guy that used to get the covfefe loiter drunkenly in the gutters of Pennsylvania Ave? Never heard of him."
 
2018-01-03 02:12:33 PM  
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It's his job now.   He wanted it.   He tried for years.   He's your baby now.
 
d23 [BareFark]
2018-01-03 02:13:01 PM  

fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.


Bullshiat and it's a dated talking point now.  How about the fact that people like me who live in idiotic, meth-addicted Indiana want to vote for someone who is sane but that vote means *nothing* since the people in these states want to vote for an idiot.  Let our votes join with the votes of the big population areas so we can actually get the people the majority of sane people in the US want.
 
2018-01-03 02:13:04 PM  

koinbahd: El_Perro: [pbs.twimg.com image 850x412]

http://thehill.com/homenews/administra​tion/367253-trump-bannon-has-lost-his-​mind

Holy shiat that's real?!?!


Seeing it multiple places.
 
2018-01-03 02:13:07 PM  
"You want someone tough like John Boehner as your chief of staff."

"Who's that?"

Two syllables sum up his flopping-dying-fish, I-have-no-clue administration. Well done, stupid-as-a-fencepost trumpanzees. Well done.
 
2018-01-03 02:13:16 PM  

fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.


And actually what happened is 3 million people who live in those areas didn't count.

The electoral college sucks, plain and simple. Land shouldn't have a vote.
 
2018-01-03 02:13:48 PM  
There's no shame in quitting, so long as you take Pence with you.
 
2018-01-03 02:14:34 PM  

Snatch Bandergrip: 5 years ago, I wrote a spec pilot for a writing class in which a wildly ignorant, irresponsible, corrupt congressman tries to sabotage his own presidential campaign, but it backfires because the American people are so farking dumb that his polls go up with every idiotic, disgusting move.

I wrote that shiat five years ago.


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2018-01-03 02:15:02 PM  
Sure, we may all die in nuclear hellfire, but man has my schadenfreude been maxed for the last 18 months.  Thanks for the shiattiest shiatshow ever, America.
 
2018-01-03 02:15:05 PM  

MFK: xanadian: That "news article" reads like fan fiction.

For example:  did Murdock REALLY say "what a f*cking idiot"?  And to whom?  And who else heard it?  Was that really reported to someone?  Or are we just speculation as to what went on behind the scenes?

it's not breitbart. it's the New Yorker. I'm pretty sure that they know that you can't just make shiat up and publish it.


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2018-01-03 02:15:10 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: The electoral college sucks, plain and simple. Land shouldn't have a vote.


This!
 
2018-01-03 02:15:42 PM  

Ivo Shandor: [s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com image 500x326]


I know it's been said elsewhere but, that's not how a supposed professional sits.  That's how a bratty teenage girl who would rather be wasting time with her friends at the mall than attending a family dinner sits.
 
2018-01-03 02:15:43 PM  

Harlee: koinbahd: El_Perro: [pbs.twimg.com image 850x412]

http://thehill.com/homenews/administra​tion/367253-trump-bannon-has-lost-his-​mind

Holy shiat that's real?!?!

Seeing it multiple places.


You know it is bad when a full year in people are asking if that is real in every thread.
We are approaching peak stupid very rapidly.
 
2018-01-03 02:15:43 PM  

fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.


we, speaking as the majority of folks in SoCal voted for team pantsuit, and I am pretty sure folks in those other places did also, so your argument is invalid. Now, if you had said it keeps folks in suburbia and the prairies and the sticks in the game- you would be correct.
 
2018-01-03 02:16:03 PM  

MFK: MFK: xanadian: That "news article" reads like fan fiction.

For example:  did Murdock REALLY say "what a f*cking idiot"?  And to whom?  And who else heard it?  Was that really reported to someone?  Or are we just speculation as to what went on behind the scenes?

it's not breitbart. it's the New Yorker. I'm pretty sure that they know that you can't just make shiat up and publish it.

whoops. New York Mag. Still an old enough pub to know what you can and cannot print.


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2018-01-03 02:16:44 PM  

Zeke The Octopus: Proof positive he wasn't the man America wanted. He was the man America needed. Molloch be damned! Meme magic has saved us from the demons! PRAISE KEK, BRINGER OF CHAOS AND DANK MEMES!

You realize we're not only in the best timeline, we're inside a Bill Murray movie! It's Stipes meets Ghostbusters meets Caddy shack meets Oliver Stone!

/Somewhere in upstate New York, in a secluded woods, Hillary Clinton has read this article and, after a psychotic break involving kidnapping her neighbor's Golden Retreiver, is busying herself kicking the piss out of its kidneys shreiking in rage and cursing the day she was born.


farking kids today. Kek and bullshiat. I worshiped Eris before it was cool. All hail Discordia, motherfarkers.

... I just realized I'm a chaos hipster.
 
2018-01-03 02:16:47 PM  
Stop a second -- he wants to prove he didn't collude with Russia to win the race.  Wouldn't convincing people that he never wanted to win go a long way towards convincing them he had no reason to collude?  What if this is the story line the White House is now pushing, because being incompetent is embarrassing, but not criminal.
 
2018-01-03 02:18:01 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: The Third Man: and his base is comprised of the poor, uneducated folks he's looked down on his entire life.

Nope. What ElwoodCuse said. Trump won whites of every income level. He ran on racism and won on racism because America is f*cking racist.


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2018-01-03 02:19:01 PM  

Old Smokie: (Deleted)

Oh, I'm sorry (not).  Left-leaning individuals who lack in farking brains, their gray matter having been slowly digested by their twisted philosophy, are triggered by Steve Bannon.  Is it a day that ends in "y"?


Ohmigod you just pwned all the libs so hard. *Pepe gif*
 
2018-01-03 02:19:18 PM  

ElwoodCuse: The Third Man: his base is comprised of the poor, uneducated folks he's looked down on his entire life

his base is upper middle class Boomer-and-older suburbanites who want to (1) pay less taxes and (2) be openly racist again


Bill Maher had a great bit (think it is on YouTube) where he explains Trump in the terms of 'City Mouse / Country Mouse' children's tale.
 
2018-01-03 02:19:34 PM  

Valis992000: Yep, must be true, Michael Wolff said so.......is he more or less credible than that Un-named Source guy?


Yes, Bannon obviously denies everything, which is why this a lead story on Breitbart
 
2018-01-03 02:19:50 PM  

Zeke The Octopus: Dusk-You-n-Me: The Third Man: and his base is comprised of the poor, uneducated folks he's looked down on his entire life.

Nope. What ElwoodCuse said. Trump won whites of every income level. He ran on racism and won on racism because America is f*cking racist.

[img.fark.net image 425x310]


Describing Trump's campaign accurately is an "anti-white post" whatever the f*ck that means. Take this sh*t back to reddit.
 
2018-01-03 02:20:28 PM  
This article sounds really, really in depth quotations from people who would not have provided them... was this fan-fiction?
 
2018-01-03 02:20:36 PM  

StrikitRich: [scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.com image 480x480]

Like FARK, The New Yorker must have just been re-stocked.


Trump chooses the best people to give access to his campaign and White House, like the author of TFA, right?
 
2018-01-03 02:20:48 PM  
My Facebook friend has stopped retrumping all the pro-Trump stuff.  I wonder what was his breaking point.

Could we set up a Trump TV Network in one of his failed casino?  Make it closed circuit so only he and prisoners get/have to watch.   Would cut down on the prison population.

Judge:  I sentence you to 2 years in prison and eight hours of Trump TV.
Attorney:  My client requests the death penalty.
 
2018-01-03 02:21:27 PM  

Bloody William: Zeke The Octopus: Proof positive he wasn't the man America wanted. He was the man America needed. Molloch be damned! Meme magic has saved us from the demons! PRAISE KEK, BRINGER OF CHAOS AND DANK MEMES!

You realize we're not only in the best timeline, we're inside a Bill Murray movie! It's Stipes meets Ghostbusters meets Caddy shack meets Oliver Stone!

/Somewhere in upstate New York, in a secluded woods, Hillary Clinton has read this article and, after a psychotic break involving kidnapping her neighbor's Golden Retreiver, is busying herself kicking the piss out of its kidneys shreiking in rage and cursing the day she was born.

farking kids today. Kek and bullshiat. I worshiped Eris before it was cool. All hail Discordia, motherfarkers.

... I just realized I'm a chaos hipster.


Solidarity!
I have a tattoo similar to this design on my left shoulder blade, got it about 20 years ago:
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Azz [TotalFark]
2018-01-03 02:21:35 PM  

Old Smokie: (Deleted)

Oh, I'm sorry (not).  Left-leaning individuals who lack in farking brains, their gray matter having been slowly digested by their twisted philosophy, are triggered by Steve Bannon.  Is it a day that ends in "y"?


I wouldn't talk if I were you. You're still recovering from triggers handed out to you by Obama and HRC. Oops, sorry- "DEEP STATE!!!11111ONE"
 
2018-01-03 02:21:38 PM  

lordluzr: This article sounds really, really in depth quotations from people who would not have provided them... was this fan-fiction?


Maybe try that again in English?
 
2018-01-03 02:23:06 PM  
Watching the trolls in this thread trying to throw anything at the wall hoping something will stick is a bit sad, a bit hilarious.
 
2018-01-03 02:23:14 PM  
Has anyone asked whether this is fan-fiction, when it explains exactly how the reporting was done at the bottom of the article?
 
2018-01-03 02:23:48 PM  

kab: There was footage shown after he won, of him getting a tour of the White House. The deer-in-the-headlights look on his face when being shown around was humorous.

skyotter: Thanks again for electing this asshole, you assholes.

Don't kid yourself.   Voters didn't put him in place, because voters don't elect presidents, no matter how you want to spin it.

The republican party is absolutely 100% responsible for anything and everything he does, and any fallout from his actions,  The right wing had their opportunity to show this guy the door in the summer of 2016, and decided not to.   And as generally shiatty as your field was, any one of them was better suited to lead than DJT is.

Since then, the right wing has embraced being portrayed as white supremacist sympathizers, advocates of nepotism. You've proudly displayed yourselves as proponents of foreign interference in the election process, and abuse of executive power.    None of this is debatable at all.

You've established a new low in what passes for candidate qualification, and will pander to any mindset or history as long as it pulls on the R lever.   Frankly, you ceasing to exist as a political party would be one of the better things to happen to the US.


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2018-01-03 02:23:48 PM  

alienated: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

we, speaking as the majority of folks in SoCal voted for team pantsuit, and I am pretty sure folks in those other places did also, so your argument is invalid. Now, if you had said it keeps folks in suburbia and the prairies and the sticks in the game- you would be correct.


actually, having re-reading ypour post fireclown- you were right. my mistake. I still think the ec is outmoded.
 
2018-01-03 02:24:02 PM  

lordluzr: This article sounds really, really in depth quotations from people who would not have provided them... was this fan-fiction?


One of the guys they put in charge of WH communications didn't know what off-the-record meant, or was too stupid to invoke it, and then was fired a matter of hours later.

The bar in this WH is low. Trump hires idiots because he is one.
 
2018-01-03 02:24:06 PM  

Snatch Bandergrip: 5 years ago, I wrote a spec pilot for a writing class in which a wildly ignorant, irresponsible, corrupt congressman tries to sabotage his own presidential campaign, but it backfires because the American people are so farking dumb that his polls go up with every idiotic, disgusting move.

I wrote that shiat five years ago.


You missed the ball on publishing it. :0/
 
2018-01-03 02:24:24 PM  

Brainsick: Old Smokie: (Deleted)

Oh, I'm sorry (not).  Left-leaning individuals who lack in farking brains, their gray matter having been slowly digested by their twisted philosophy, are triggered by Steve Bannon.  Is it a day that ends in "y"?

[pics.me.me image 500x386]


You'd be crabby too if you were afraid to go outside without a gun.
 
2018-01-03 02:24:30 PM  

LaBlueSkuld: The moment the last few weeks of the election campaign they started talking more about TrumpTV than anything else it was obvious what the plan was. Hell, I can see his disgusting face smugly smirking over scrolling banners and graphics even too garish for Fox News as he tells his viewers they could have had him handling the bad situation of the hour but Crooked Hillary ruined it for them.


In other words, he would have ripped this country apart regardless of the outcome of the election.
 
2018-01-03 02:24:53 PM  

mofa: Hillary's fatal mistake was that she did not recognize that 60 million people would be stupid enough to vote for Cheeto Mcshiatgibbon. And neither did Cheeto Mcshiatgibbon. Congratulations, 60 million people who are even less intelligent than Republican President Trump thought you were!


Yore welcum
 
2018-01-03 02:24:56 PM  
Then get the fark out.

There's the door.

Resign.
 
2018-01-03 02:24:59 PM  

SamFlagg: Harlee: Snapper Carr: I wouldn't think any less of him* if he chose to resign.

*I am in fact, incapable of thinking any less of him so...

That would leave Pence in charge. Not sure you've thought your cunning plan all the way through here.

I'm pretty sure that not having to worry about nuclear destruction every time North Korea says mean things is worth having Pence.

It's not like Trump isn't advancing all of the worst parts of a Pence presidency anyway.


Except that Pence, being an evangelical, looks forward to Armageddon as a fulfillment of prophecy.
 
2018-01-03 02:25:25 PM  

kdawg7736: They just can't let it go that Trump won.


What does this even mean? How does one "let it go" that Trump won? We're all, left and right, well aware that Trump is president.
 
2018-01-03 02:25:37 PM  
FTA - "Steve doesn't represent my base - he's only in it for himself."

Ummmm...pot, meet kettle.
 
2018-01-03 02:25:48 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: lordluzr: This article sounds really, really in depth quotations from people who would not have provided them... was this fan-fiction?

Maybe try that again in English?


POTATUS . Caught sayof Congress that has stoped Grandstandsing " See, told ya so" Is He senile or not. CNN Says yes. St. Pete Times Looking for Russians -OR- "hello, I am write single to grab crotches and wait for covfefe
 
2018-01-03 02:25:59 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: If this is supposed to make me feel better, it's failing.

If the farkface in Chief doesn't want the job, he knows what he can do about that.


Are you sure he knows what he can do about it? It seems likely that he has no idea that resigning of his own free will is an option. Even if he somewhat academically understands it there's no way the narcissistic part of his personality would allow him to do it.
 
2018-01-03 02:27:17 PM  

alienated: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

we, speaking as the majority of folks in SoCal voted for team pantsuit, and I am pretty sure folks in those other places did also, so your argument is invalid. Now, if you had said it keeps folks in suburbia and the prairies and the sticks in the game- you would be correct.


It isn't invalid.  Both teams, Red and Blue, had to at least pretend to give a fig what happened outside of the four or so major metro areas.  Without the EC, they don't, and flyover country will get sold out faster than you can say Jack Robinson in an effort to win over the sophisticated urbanites.
 
2018-01-03 02:27:20 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: Watching the trolls in this thread trying to throw anything at the wall hoping something will stick is a bit sad, a bit hilarious.


I like to take their usernames and search on Google to see what their post history looks like. If their account is 5+ years old, but only has 1-2 pages on google, it's probably a bot that hijacked a dead account.

Try it: Google "username" "fark" and you can see. Maybe try it on the person 2 posts below yours talking about the tax plan. Less than a page of posts before slobbing on Trump's knob.
 
2018-01-03 02:27:41 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: Watching the trolls in this thread trying to throw anything at the wall hoping something will stick is a bit sad, a bit hilarious.


You left-leaning left libs lean an awfully lot to the lefty-left leaning left!

SINISTER!

YOU CANT DELEAT TEH TRUTH, MODES!
 
2018-01-03 02:28:01 PM  
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"I can't put a happy face on that. And that's my job."
 
2018-01-03 02:28:01 PM  

Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.


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2018-01-03 02:28:21 PM  

fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.


So because some people live in the middle of nowhere you think their votes should count more than those of people who live where the jobs are?
 
2018-01-03 02:28:25 PM  
I didn't want him to win either. It's one of the few things Trumpler and I agree on.

I wish he would just grow old settling lawsuits for felonies he's committed.
 
2018-01-03 02:28:28 PM  
I hope he hates every second of being president. I hope it kills him. Sooner rather than later, of course.
 
2018-01-03 02:28:35 PM  

Old Smokie: Is it a day that ends in "y"?


Are you getting spanked like a bad little dog on Fark? Sure enough! It's a Wednesday.
 
2018-01-03 02:28:55 PM  

Zeke The Octopus: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

[img.fark.net image 425x593]


Wrong thread?

lol
 
2018-01-03 02:28:56 PM  

Zeke The Octopus: kab: There was footage shown after he won, of him getting a tour of the White House. The deer-in-the-headlights look on his face when being shown around was humorous.

skyotter: Thanks again for electing this asshole, you assholes.

Don't kid yourself.   Voters didn't put him in place, because voters don't elect presidents, no matter how you want to spin it.

The republican party is absolutely 100% responsible for anything and everything he does, and any fallout from his actions,  The right wing had their opportunity to show this guy the door in the summer of 2016, and decided not to.   And as generally shiatty as your field was, any one of them was better suited to lead than DJT is.

Since then, the right wing has embraced being portrayed as white supremacist sympathizers, advocates of nepotism. You've proudly displayed yourselves as proponents of foreign interference in the election process, and abuse of executive power.    None of this is debatable at all.

You've established a new low in what passes for candidate qualification, and will pander to any mindset or history as long as it pulls on the R lever.   Frankly, you ceasing to exist as a political party would be one of the better things to happen to the US.

[img.fark.net image 425x321]


Scintillating rejoinder. Like any Trump supporter, you've probably never had an original idea in your life.
 
2018-01-03 02:29:38 PM  

Warthog: Stop a second -- he wants to prove he didn't collude with Russia to win the race.  Wouldn't convincing people that he never wanted to win go a long way towards convincing them he had no reason to collude?  What if this is the story line the White House is now pushing, because being incompetent is embarrassing, but not criminal.


He agreed to run, but that doesn't mean he wanted to win the prize. The Russians would have been happy just tarnishing Hillary's presidency, keep in mind that their twitter bots were going hard on creating a stolen election narrative before his numbers started improving. Trump wanted to be out of this and breaking ground on Trump Tower Moscow by the new year.

When you've made a deal with the Russian mob you don't have the ability to steer where it's going to go. Once their intel officers realized how well the con worked on dullard-Americans, they shifted gears to actually going for the win.
 
2018-01-03 02:30:33 PM  

The Third Man: The only problem with this theory is the obvious one:  if he didn't want to be President then, why does he want to be President now?  It's not like the job is getting any easier or less stressful.  And he'd make a ton of money off of rubes if he resigned and blamed "the deep state" or "Killary" or some other nonsense for making his job impossible.

Bottom line is, as President Trump is hated by the people he wants to impress, and his base is comprised of the poor, uneducated folks he's looked down on his entire life.  As former President, he can make money off those poor, uneducated folks--and really, making money off of the easily-scammed is the only thing he's ever shown a real passion for doing--and the people he wants to impress will find someone else to hate.  But he's showing no interest in becoming a former President.  So maybe he does want to be the leader after all.


I think this snippet answers your question.

But still to come was the final transformation: Suddenly, Donald Trump became a man who believed that he deserved to be, and was wholly capable of being, the president of the United States.
 
2018-01-03 02:30:34 PM  
Trump previously claimed that Manafort, who was in charge of his campaign, had very little to do with the campaign. Now he's claiming that Bannon, who replaced Manafort, was a late arrival, and just "a staffer", who had little to do with his election win or his presidency.

Seems legit.
 
2018-01-03 02:30:36 PM  

alienated: alienated: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

we, speaking as the majority of folks in SoCal voted for team pantsuit, and I am pretty sure folks in those other places did also, so your argument is invalid. Now, if you had said it keeps folks in suburbia and the prairies and the sticks in the game- you would be correct.

actually, having re-reading ypour post fireclown- you were right. my mistake. I still think the ec is outmoded.


S'aright.  FWIW, I'm VERY upset about the way this election turned out.  **fistbump**
 
2018-01-03 02:30:40 PM  
And just think - all of this was before he even had that shocking realization of how much work being President actually entails.
 
2018-01-03 02:31:01 PM  
I dislike Donald Trump as a person and think that many of his political decisions are badly informed and short sighted.
 
2018-01-03 02:31:13 PM  

Pats_Cloth_Coat: This text is now purple: Big Floppy Donkey Dick Nixon: I can't find it, but there is a picture from election night, right after the results are all in, that shows him looking absolutely mortified he's won. Everyone around him looks elated, but he is just sitting there with an "oh fark" look on his face

Everyone gets that look. The job ages people. It's like Moses coming down the mountain after having stood in the presence of God. Each year as President is like 4 in normal years.

[img.fark.net image 800x375]

On the left, 1858.  On the right, 1865.


That 1865 picture isn't accurate, it's missing a hole

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2018-01-03 02:32:03 PM  

robodog: Smelly Pirate Hooker: If this is supposed to make me feel better, it's failing.

If the farkface in Chief doesn't want the job, he knows what he can do about that.

Are you sure he knows what he can do about it? It seems likely that he has no idea that resigning of his own free will is an option. Even if he somewhat academically understands it there's no way the narcissistic part of his personality would allow him to do it.


(shrug) Probably.
 
2018-01-03 02:32:09 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: [img.fark.net image 425x423]

"I can't put a happy face on that. And that's my job."


I'm still trying to figure out when The Trumpster married Steven Taylor.
 
2018-01-03 02:33:10 PM  
Wow this thread is full of crazies coming out of the woodwork.  Did the Kremlin's check clear or something?
 
2018-01-03 02:34:24 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Markoff_Cheney: Watching the trolls in this thread trying to throw anything at the wall hoping something will stick is a bit sad, a bit hilarious.

I like to take their usernames and search on Google to see what their post history looks like. If their account is 5+ years old, but only has 1-2 pages on google, it's probably a bot that hijacked a dead account.

Try it: Google "username" "fark" and you can see. Maybe try it on the person 2 posts below yours talking about the tax plan. Less than a page of posts before slobbing on Trump's knob.


I have never tried that, but I can usually guess based on having been here for farking ever and having most of the tards tagged proper.  Bot hijacking makes plenty of sense with all the data breaches lately. 
Not a chance of getting caught stealing someone's twice used login from 2006 compared to stealing money or something.
 
2018-01-03 02:34:37 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: lordluzr: This article sounds really, really in depth quotations from people who would not have provided them... was this fan-fiction?

Maybe try that again in English?


English mine make fun being?  Okay, I hiccuped in the brain as I was typing:  Take 2

The article sounds like it was written by someone at the tables, in the conversations.  None of these folks would (in their right mind) provide such in depth quotations and recollectionis just to make themselves look like buffoons... would they?  This reads like Fark fan-fiction.
 
2018-01-03 02:35:52 PM  

RoomFullOfMonkeys: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

So because some people live in the middle of nowhere you think their votes should count more than those of people who live where the jobs are?


You don't have to be an asshole to make your point.  1 person should count for 1 vote.  That's it.  That's the logical argument.  It's 2018, FFS. You don't have to live in a metro area in order to have a job.  Heck, I work for a big, evil Wall Street bank and I work from home...that home is definitely not ever going to be in an urban environment again.
 
2018-01-03 02:37:41 PM  

CygnusDarius: El_Perro: [pbs.twimg.com image 850x412]

You wanna know how I know it's fake? This is not how he talks.


It's real, man.  I couldn't believe it myself.
 
2018-01-03 02:38:10 PM  

over_educated: Wow this thread is full of crazies coming out of the woodwork.  Did the Kremlin's check clear or something?


Something big is coming.
 
2018-01-03 02:38:18 PM  

fireclown: alienated: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

we, speaking as the majority of folks in SoCal voted for team pantsuit, and I am pretty sure folks in those other places did also, so your argument is invalid. Now, if you had said it keeps folks in suburbia and the prairies and the sticks in the game- you would be correct.

It isn't invalid.  Both teams, Red and Blue, had to at least pretend to give a fig what happened outside of the four or so major metro areas.  Without the EC, they don't, and flyover country will get sold out faster than you can say Jack Robinson in an effort to win over the sophisticated urbanites.


Let's see....add up NYC, LA, Chicago and DFW (largest metro areas), you are at 50 million of the 323 million people in this country. Take that number and knock it down 30% to get to the number of voters and you have 35 million voters. Let's say they break dem at 90% (generous, as its probably closer to 70%, but whatever), and you have 31M voters, assuming 100% turnout. That wont even get you to half of the number of votes Clinton got. And the populations fall off very rapidly.

This whole "only care about 3 population centers" bullshiat needs to stop. You are horribly and terribly misinformed and downright wrong
 
2018-01-03 02:38:38 PM  

skyotter: Thanks again for electing this asshole, you assholes.


Keep it up and next time we'll get Charlie Sheen elected. Now take your medicine like a good boy and worship the God Emperor as ordained by the Mandate of Heaven.
 
2018-01-03 02:38:56 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: over_educated: Wow this thread is full of crazies coming out of the woodwork.  Did the Kremlin's check clear or something?

Something big is coming.


I'm a driver and a winner.

Things are gonna change I CAN FEEL it.
 
2018-01-03 02:39:13 PM  

hubcity: The Third Man: The only problem with this theory is the obvious one:  if he didn't want to be President then, why does he want to be President now?  It's not like the job is getting any easier or less stressful.  And he'd make a ton of money off of rubes if he resigned and blamed "the deep state" or "Killary" or some other nonsense for making his job impossible.

Bottom line is, as President Trump is hated by the people he wants to impress, and his base is comprised of the poor, uneducated folks he's looked down on his entire life.  As former President, he can make money off those poor, uneducated folks--and really, making money off of the easily-scammed is the only thing he's ever shown a real passion for doing--and the people he wants to impress will find someone else to hate.  But he's showing no interest in becoming a former President.  So maybe he does want to be the leader after all.

Read the story. It's basically a psychotic break that occurred a few hours after the election was called. Life gave him shiat, he decided to make shiat-ade.


His base isn't actually poor. They are middle class to wealthy, uneducated people. Think plumbing contractors. not broke ass rednecks.
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2018-01-03 02:40:46 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

And actually what happened is 3 million people who live in those areas didn't count.

The electoral college sucks, plain and simple. Land shouldn't have a vote.


I've tried to explain this to Trumpers I know who point to the giant swath of red that voted for him.    I always go to my Multnomah/Harney counties comparison.   Harney County is the 10th largest county in the US, over 10K square miles.  Multnomah County comes in at 466 sq. miles.   Harney County has some 7300 people in it.  Multnomah has 800K.   I even took the time took the time and took some graph paper with the relative sizes.   Was going to use quarters as indicative of the population.  Three for Harney (being generous) and then realized I couldn't get enough quarters.
 
2018-01-03 02:41:33 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

And actually what happened is 3 million people who live in those areas didn't count.

The electoral college sucks, plain and simple. Land shouldn't have a vote.


Clinton won just 15% of the counties in America. You may think it is cool that just 15% of the counties decide the presidency but I think about 85% of the country may disagree with you.
 
2018-01-03 02:41:42 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: over_educated: Wow this thread is full of crazies coming out of the woodwork.  Did the Kremlin's check clear or something?

Something big is coming.


It's a time out trap.
 
2018-01-03 02:41:43 PM  
Wow, it's almost like his numerous political runs were just self promotion for his TV show.  Who could have known!?

/[everyone.gif]
//Obvious tag died on the way his home world
///I'm sorry your government is a joke
 
2018-01-03 02:41:52 PM  
Zeke The Octopus:
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So you're saying that we shouldn't hate Racists, Bigots and Homophobes and call them out when we see them?

Thanks, but I'll stick with Democrats.
 
2018-01-03 02:41:55 PM  

whidbey: Markoff_Cheney: over_educated: Wow this thread is full of crazies coming out of the woodwork.  Did the Kremlin's check clear or something?

Something big is coming.

I'm a driver and a winner.

Things are gonna change I CAN FEEL it.


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2018-01-03 02:43:17 PM  

Clemkadidlefark: Ya'll making me howl with laughter


FYI you're going to have to laugh a lot louder to cover the sound of you crapping your pants.
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2018-01-03 02:43:51 PM  

Yellow Beard: cameroncrazy1984: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

And actually what happened is 3 million people who live in those areas didn't count.

The electoral college sucks, plain and simple. Land shouldn't have a vote.

Clinton won just 15% of the counties in America. You may think it is cool that just 15% of the counties decide the presidency but I think about 85% of the country may disagree with you.


You are REALLY farking bad at math.
 
2018-01-03 02:44:19 PM  

Sailing Starflower: So what's the source for this?

Because I understand confirmation bias, and reading this, for me, is like an overdose of confirmation bias.

I so want it to be true, but I can't quite bring myself to believe it (or anything political) anymore.


Go the bottom of the article, there's a whole write up on the basis for the book it comes from.
 
2018-01-03 02:44:28 PM  
I'm reading through twitter on this. The right wing guys are all trying to call the author a liar trying to stir up trouble between Bannon and Trump. Then that dumb fark Leroy Jenkins with his crazy statement and they're all scrambling to pick up the narrative.
 
2018-01-03 02:45:28 PM  
Next you'll be telling me he has two heads and stole a space ship.
 
2018-01-03 02:45:55 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: over_educated: Wow this thread is full of crazies coming out of the woodwork.  Did the Kremlin's check clear or something?

Something big is coming.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usat​o​day.com/amp/999817001

The rats are eating each other.
 
2018-01-03 02:46:08 PM  

Priapetic: Whether the precise details are correct or not, the overall idea that Trump did not actually want to win is spot on.  A colleague referred to Trump' win as the dog who caught the car and is now thinking, "Uh oh, now what?"  Just look at how late he started on the process of filling key positions, and how many are still to be appointed.  How the RNC allowed this to happen is beyond comprehension.  Noting speaks more eloquently of the total dysfunction of the Republican party than Trump's election.


Nothing speaks more to the dysfunction of the Democrats than Trump's Victory.

This is better than the Bad News Bears winning the World Series.

It's Revenge of the Nerds with ACTUAL nuclear weapons. OMG this is hands down the most hysterically funny thing that's ever happened in my lifetime.

Obligatory video
Hillary's Christmas Gift from Obama 2016
Youtube mP8dcZNKLVQ
 
2018-01-03 02:46:32 PM  

Yellow Beard: cameroncrazy1984: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

And actually what happened is 3 million people who live in those areas didn't count.

The electoral college sucks, plain and simple. Land shouldn't have a vote.

Clinton won just 15% of the counties in America. You may think it is cool that just 15% of the counties decide the presidency but I think about 85% of the country may disagree with you.


She won the majority of the votes. That's supposed to be how democracy works.

The EC was created to ensure that a populist demagogue couldn't dupe the population into electing a snake-oil salesman. It has failed at its only job.
 
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2018-01-03 02:46:56 PM  

Yellow Beard: cameroncrazy1984: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

And actually what happened is 3 million people who live in those areas didn't count.

The electoral college sucks, plain and simple. Land shouldn't have a vote.

Clinton won just 15% of the counties in America. You may think it is cool that just 15% of the counties decide the presidency but I think about 85% of the country may disagree with you.


Trump won all the counties where cows outnumber people. Whoop-de-doo
 
2018-01-03 02:47:00 PM  
Coca-Cola, 1971 - 'Hilltop' | 'I'd like to buy the world a Coke'
Youtube 1VM2eLhvsSM
 
2018-01-03 02:47:01 PM  
Deep Contact: Bla bla bla. Hate the rich, love the poor, Bla bla bla.

I mean, well, Jesus...
 
2018-01-03 02:47:03 PM  
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No, Andrew Breitbart would be snorting cocaine.
 
2018-01-03 02:47:22 PM  

This text is now purple: Big Floppy Donkey Dick Nixon: I can't find it, but there is a picture from election night, right after the results are all in, that shows him looking absolutely mortified he's won. Everyone around him looks elated, but he is just sitting there with an "oh fark" look on his face

Everyone gets that look. The job ages people. It's like Moses coming down the mountain after having stood in the presence of God. Each year as President is like 4 in normal years.


It aged him months prior to taking office.

That's a rough gig.
 
2018-01-03 02:48:09 PM  
What If Donald Trump Is Just An Elaborate Prank?
Youtube 8qIQbydyHwc
 
d23 [BareFark]
2018-01-03 02:48:13 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: [img.fark.net image 522x98]

No, Andrew Breitbart would be snorting cocaine.


He'd probably be applauding it as well.  His whole schtick was to cause havoc.  He wasn't a person that held truth in high esteem.
 
2018-01-03 02:48:27 PM  

DarkVader: The Third Man: The only problem with this theory is the obvious one:  if he didn't want to be President then, why does he want to be President now?  It's not like the job is getting any easier or less stressful.  And he'd make a ton of money off of rubes if he resigned and blamed "the deep state" or "Killary" or some other nonsense for making his job impossible.

Bottom line is, as President Trump is hated by the people he wants to impress, and his base is comprised of the poor, uneducated folks he's looked down on his entire life.  As former President, he can make money off those poor, uneducated folks--and really, making money off of the easily-scammed is the only thing he's ever shown a real passion for doing--and the people he wants to impress will find someone else to hate.  But he's showing no interest in becoming a former President.  So maybe he does want to be the leader after all.

It's not that he wants to be president now, it's just the only way he can stay out of prison for a little while longer.

As soon as he's out of that office, NY is going to unseal their indictment, and I'm betting that, given his properties in multiple countries and available transportation assets (including private planes that are capable of reaching Russia or other countries that won't extradite), there's pretty much no chance he's going to get bail.

If he leaves office alive (which is a pretty big if considering his health) there's nothing that's going to keep him from going to prison for the rest of his life.


Well hello, Mr. Mueller!

Seriously, that's a pretty bold statement.  I mean, that's what we want, that's what we need...but, what exactly are you basing that on?
 
2018-01-03 02:48:28 PM  
Well idf he doesn't want to be POTUS, he can quit.
 
2018-01-03 02:48:38 PM  

Yellow Beard: cameroncrazy1984: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

And actually what happened is 3 million people who live in those areas didn't count.

The electoral college sucks, plain and simple. Land shouldn't have a vote.

Clinton won just 15% of the counties in America. You may think it is cool that just 15% of the counties decide the presidency but I think about 85% of the country may disagree with you.


Land People
 
2018-01-03 02:49:04 PM  

Yellow Beard: Clinton won just 15% of the counties in America. You may think it is cool that just 15% of the counties decide the presidency but I think about 85% of the country may disagree with you.


Is there some reason the individual citizens should be counted less because they're in more populous counties? Because fark that noise.
 
2018-01-03 02:49:21 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: over_educated: Wow this thread is full of crazies coming out of the woodwork.  Did the Kremlin's check clear or something?

Something big is coming.


circumcision thread that relates to Kushner?
 
2018-01-03 02:49:47 PM  

Yellow Beard: cameroncrazy1984: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

And actually what happened is 3 million people who live in those areas didn't count.

The electoral college sucks, plain and simple. Land shouldn't have a vote.

Clinton won just 15% of the counties in America. You may think it is cool that just 15% of the counties decide the presidency but I think about 85% of the country may disagree with you.


Counties don't vote, people do
 
2018-01-03 02:49:57 PM  
The point is, he said, that that very day, he had saved $700 million a year in jobs that were going to Mexico, but the media was talking about him wandering around the White House in his bathrobe, which "I don't have because I've never worn a bathrobe. And would never wear one, because I'm not that kind of guy."

Thank god for that
 
2018-01-03 02:50:17 PM  

born_yesterday: Markoff_Cheney: Watching the trolls in this thread trying to throw anything at the wall hoping something will stick is a bit sad, a bit hilarious.

You left-leaning left libs lean an awfully lot to the lefty-left leaning left!

SINISTER!

YOU CANT DELEAT TEH TRUTH, MODES!


"Sinister" - nice touch, I assume that was on purpose :)
 
2018-01-03 02:50:32 PM  

d23: thismomentinblackhistory: [img.fark.net image 522x98]

No, Andrew Breitbart would be snorting cocaine.

He'd probably be applauding it as well.  His whole schtick was to cause havoc.  He wasn't a person that held truth in high esteem.


If you do have the Twitter you should look up Half Scoop. I only had a few minutes to go through his feed but people are replying to him with cracked eggs, his face photoshopped in a cracked egg, him as Humpty Dumpty getting ready to fall. It's pretty funny.
 
2018-01-03 02:50:44 PM  

Bloody William: Yellow Beard: Clinton won just 15% of the counties in America. You may think it is cool that just 15% of the counties decide the presidency but I think about 85% of the country may disagree with you.

Is there some reason the individual citizens should be counted less because they're in more populous counties? Because fark that noise.


Because they are out-of-touch elitists who don't understand the values of Real America (TM)?
 
2018-01-03 02:51:07 PM  

Weatherkiss: Well, that's it. Now I'm seriously on the fence about voting for Donald Trump.


The sad part is that you don't appear to even be tired of the gag.
 
2018-01-03 02:51:11 PM  

Yellow Beard: cameroncrazy1984: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

And actually what happened is 3 million people who live in those areas didn't count.

The electoral college sucks, plain and simple. Land shouldn't have a vote.

Clinton won just 15% of the counties in America. You may think it is cool that just 15% of the counties decide the presidency but I think about 85% of the country may disagree with you.


So, one acre one vote?
 
2018-01-03 02:51:32 PM  
Folks, if you don't want the job, then don't apply.
 
2018-01-03 02:51:34 PM  

Mechanicum: Yellow Beard: cameroncrazy1984: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

And actually what happened is 3 million people who live in those areas didn't count.

The electoral college sucks, plain and simple. Land shouldn't have a vote.

Clinton won just 15% of the counties in America. You may think it is cool that just 15% of the counties decide the presidency but I think about 85% of the country may disagree with you.

Counties don't vote, people do


Actually, with the Electoral College, wood and rocks voting is rather commonplace.
 
2018-01-03 02:51:40 PM  

FortyHams: I'm reading through twitter on this. The right wing guys are all trying to call the author a liar trying to stir up trouble between Bannon and Trump. Then that dumb fark Leroy Jenkins with his crazy statement and they're all scrambling to pick up the narrative.


Watching turds trying to float before the marching orders are given from Rush or Hannity is pretty farking hilarious.
 
2018-01-03 02:52:40 PM  

machoprogrammer: The point is, he said, that that very day, he had saved $700 million a year in jobs that were going to Mexico, but the media was talking about him wandering around the White House in his bathrobe, which "I don't have because I've never worn a bathrobe. And would never wear one, because I'm not that kind of guy."

Thank god for that


He also lied about saving jobs from going to Mexico, dude. Don't put too much stock in his leisurewear statements.
 
2018-01-03 02:52:48 PM  

fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.


And look what happened.
 
2018-01-03 02:53:14 PM  

Snatch Bandergrip: 5 years ago, I wrote a spec pilot for a writing class in which a wildly ignorant, irresponsible, corrupt congressman tries to sabotage his own presidential campaign, but it backfires because the American people are so farking dumb that his polls go up with every idiotic, disgusting move.

I wrote that shiat five years ago.


Peter sellers covered that one a few years prior in "Being There" where everyone around him somehow confuses a simple gardener for a financial genius.  Much more likeable fellow though..
 
2018-01-03 02:54:21 PM  

Brave Man Person: Priapetic: Whether the precise details are correct or not, the overall idea that Trump did not actually want to win is spot on.  A colleague referred to Trump' win as the dog who caught the car and is now thinking, "Uh oh, now what?"  Just look at how late he started on the process of filling key positions, and how many are still to be appointed.  How the RNC allowed this to happen is beyond comprehension.  Noting speaks more eloquently of the total dysfunction of the Republican party than Trump's election.

Nothing speaks more to the dysfunction of the Democrats than Trump's Victory.

This is better than the Bad News Bears winning the World Series.

It's Revenge of the Nerds with ACTUAL nuclear weapons. OMG this is hands down the most hysterically funny thing that's ever happened in my lifetime.

Obligatory video[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/mP8dcZNK​LVQ]


Yeah, Trump threating a nuclear war that would kill millions and using the weapons as a dick analogy is the height of hilarity.
 
2018-01-03 02:55:30 PM  
"he would let housekeeping know when he wanted his sheets done"
"he was in bed by that time with a cheeseburger"
 
2018-01-03 02:55:50 PM  

Mechanicum: Yellow Beard: cameroncrazy1984: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

And actually what happened is 3 million people who live in those areas didn't count.

The electoral college sucks, plain and simple. Land shouldn't have a vote.

Clinton won just 15% of the counties in America. You may think it is cool that just 15% of the counties decide the presidency but I think about 85% of the country may disagree with you.

Counties don't vote, people do


I am aware of that but 85% of the counties in this countries were won by the orange twidiot. I guess we should just say to 85% of the country stay home, don't vote because a handful of cities got this? No thanks.
 
2018-01-03 02:56:37 PM  

machoprogrammer: The point is, he said, that that very day, he had saved $700 million a year in jobs that were going to Mexico, but the media was talking about him wandering around the White House in his bathrobe, which "I don't have because I've never worn a bathrobe. And would never wear one, because I'm not that kind of guy."

Thank god for that


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2018-01-03 02:56:49 PM  

Yellow Beard: I am aware of that but 85% of the counties in this countries were won by the orange twidiot. I guess we should just say to 85% of the country stay home, don't vote because a handful of cities got this? No thanks.


How about we say one voter has one vote, and that mine shouldn't be worth a fraction of someone who simply has fewer, more spread-out neighbors than I do?
 
2018-01-03 02:57:09 PM  
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Really...  At any point, Trump can resign and walk away from this thing.  No one would think any less of him.  In fact, he would probably be hailed as a hero.

You hear that, Trump?  There is a chance that you can walk away from this and people will actually like you for it.  If you continue the path of pretending that everything is fine, while burning down the world around you, you will go down in history as a disgraced buffoon.
 
2018-01-03 02:57:23 PM  

J.R. 'Bob' Chinaski: Brave Man Person: Priapetic: Whether the precise details are correct or not, the overall idea that Trump did not actually want to win is spot on.  A colleague referred to Trump' win as the dog who caught the car and is now thinking, "Uh oh, now what?"  Just look at how late he started on the process of filling key positions, and how many are still to be appointed.  How the RNC allowed this to happen is beyond comprehension.  Noting speaks more eloquently of the total dysfunction of the Republican party than Trump's election.

Nothing speaks more to the dysfunction of the Democrats than Trump's Victory.

This is better than the Bad News Bears winning the World Series.

It's Revenge of the Nerds with ACTUAL nuclear weapons. OMG this is hands down the most hysterically funny thing that's ever happened in my lifetime.

Obligatory video[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/mP8dcZNK​LVQ]

Yeah, Trump threating a nuclear war that would kill millions and using the weapons as a dick analogy is the height of hilarity.


Remember how these pathetic asswipes would bleat and shiat themselves when Obama misspoke?
 
2018-01-03 02:57:39 PM  
Yellow Beard:
Clinton won just 15% of the counties in America. You may think it is cool that just 15% of the counties decide the presidency but I think about 85% of the country may disagree with you.

(wanking motion)

You know that means nothing, right? LOL.

In case you are so dim you don't know that, "counties won" is a meaningless metric that stupid fark Trump bragged about, temporarily, to make getting fewer votes than Clinton sound OK. He couldn't make the "millions of illegals voted" horseshiat stick, so he (or more likely one of his soulless minions, since he's not so good with the thinking) came up with the "counties" talking point.

It's like bragging about how many windows your car has, or debating tastes great vs. less filling.

Another data point that proves Republicans are the stupidest people on earth. The feeble pimping of weak shiat like this is, well, to use the biggest word the president actually knows the definition of: sad.
 
2018-01-03 02:57:49 PM  

Yellow Beard: Mechanicum: Yellow Beard: cameroncrazy1984: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

And actually what happened is 3 million people who live in those areas didn't count.

The electoral college sucks, plain and simple. Land shouldn't have a vote.

Clinton won just 15% of the counties in America. You may think it is cool that just 15% of the counties decide the presidency but I think about 85% of the country may disagree with you.

Counties don't vote, people do

I am aware of that but 85% of the counties in this countries were won by the orange twidiot. I guess we should just say to 85% of the country stay home, don't vote because a handful of cities got this? No thanks.


Oh the old "California chose Hillary" bullshiat.

I love how this never gets old.
 
2018-01-03 02:57:51 PM  
the media was talking about him wandering around the White House in his bathrobe, which "I don't have because I've never worn a bathrobe. And would never wear one, because I'm not that kind of guy."


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2018-01-03 02:57:57 PM  

fireclown: It isn't invalid. Both teams, Red and Blue, had to at least pretend to give a fig what happened outside of the four or so major metro areas. Without the EC, they don't, and flyover country will get sold out faster than you can say Jack Robinson in an effort to win over the sophisticated urbanites.


No, you don't get a bigger vote because you live in rural areas.  You don't get a bigger say in what happens in a country just because you live in a different place.  A person is a person.  Period.  Your excuse is creating a BS rationalization for your beliefs to get greater representation.  It's transparent and obvious.

The EC was a compromise to prevent specific states from owning the process when states were basically independent sovereign entities, almost completely independent of one another.  With little communication and travel between them, it made sense to give states "votes".  But even then, most of VA, PA, and the other large population states were 99% rural.  Now, states are far weaker cultural entities, and people move between them sharing culture and information on a minute to minute basis.

Your "historical" excuse to defend rural populations is a completely modern rationalization, not based on the realities of the system that was created.
 
2018-01-03 02:58:40 PM  
He's eclipsed the Rosenbergs. He's eclipsed Robert E Lee. He's eclipsed Benedict Arnold.

There's nobody ahead of him in the Great Betrayers Sweepstakes. He's stretching his lead out like Secretariat in the Belmont.
 
2018-01-03 02:58:46 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: Yellow Beard:
Clinton won just 15% of the counties in America. You may think it is cool that just 15% of the counties decide the presidency but I think about 85% of the country may disagree with you.

(wanking motion)

You know that means nothing, right? LOL.

In case you are so dim you don't know that, "counties won" is a meaningless metric that stupid fark Trump bragged about, temporarily, to make getting fewer votes than Clinton sound OK. He couldn't make the "millions of illegals voted" horseshiat stick, so he (or more likely one of his soulless minions, since he's not so good with the thinking) came up with the "counties" talking point.

It's like bragging about how many windows your car has, or debating tastes great vs. less filling.

Another data point that proves Republicans are the stupidest people on earth. The feeble pimping of weak shiat like this is, well, to use the biggest word the president actually knows the definition of: sad.


The most populated county in America has over 10,000,000 people.

The least populated county has 88.

Counties don't mean shiat.
 
Azz [TotalFark]
2018-01-03 02:59:03 PM  

Yellow Beard: Mechanicum: Yellow Beard: cameroncrazy1984: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

And actually what happened is 3 million people who live in those areas didn't count.

The electoral college sucks, plain and simple. Land shouldn't have a vote.

Clinton won just 15% of the counties in America. You may think it is cool that just 15% of the counties decide the presidency but I think about 85% of the country may disagree with you.

Counties don't vote, people do

I am aware of that but 85% of the counties in this countries were won by the orange twidiot. I guess we should just say to 85% of the country stay home, don't vote because a handful of cities got this? No thanks.


You still don't get it. You're a lost cause.
 
2018-01-03 02:59:41 PM  

cretinbob: Called it during the primary,what do I win?


A signed copy of Un Saison En Enfer.
 
2018-01-03 02:59:42 PM  

machoprogrammer: The point is, he said, that that very day, he had saved $700 million a year in jobs that were going to Mexico, but the media was talking about him wandering around the White House in his bathrobe, which "I don't have because I've never worn a bathrobe. And would never wear one, because I'm not that kind of guy."

Thank god for that


It's not a bathrobe, its silk pajamas with a tailored terry cloth covering. I mean it looks a shiat ton like a bathrobe, but in calling it that you'd sound like a poor.
 
2018-01-03 03:00:07 PM  
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2018-01-03 03:00:11 PM  

Azz: Yellow Beard: Mechanicum: Yellow Beard: cameroncrazy1984: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

And actually what happened is 3 million people who live in those areas didn't count.

The electoral college sucks, plain and simple. Land shouldn't have a vote.

Clinton won just 15% of the counties in America. You may think it is cool that just 15% of the counties decide the presidency but I think about 85% of the country may disagree with you.

Counties don't vote, people do

I am aware of that but 85% of the counties in this countries were won by the orange twidiot. I guess we should just say to 85% of the country stay home, don't vote because a handful of cities got this? No thanks.

You still don't get it. You're a lost cause.


BUH BUH HILLERY WAS GONNA CAUSE US A WERLD WAR
 
2018-01-03 03:00:35 PM  

Yellow Beard: I am aware of that but 85% of the counties in this countries were won by the orange twidiot. I guess we should just say to 85% of the country stay home, don't vote because a handful of cities got this? No thanks.


YOU SHOULD READ ABOUT POPULATION DENSITY.
PLEASE.
 
2018-01-03 03:00:55 PM  

interstitialofficial: Next you'll be telling me he has two heads and stole a space ship.


I'm expecting Trimp to hijack AF1 to Moscow.
 
2018-01-03 03:01:05 PM  
Right wing twitter is trying out "The left loves Bannon now". Nah, biatch, take them both down.
 
2018-01-03 03:01:25 PM  

FortyHams: According to the article they're the first couple since Kennedy to sleep in separate rooms. The difference being that JFK's room was too full of young women and Trump's is just full of big mac wrappers and dirty clothes. pissy diapers

 
2018-01-03 03:01:29 PM  

amindtat: Snatch Bandergrip: I wrote that shiat five years ago.

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2018-01-03 03:01:34 PM  

Yellow Beard: Mechanicum: Yellow Beard: cameroncrazy1984: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

And actually what happened is 3 million people who live in those areas didn't count.

The electoral college sucks, plain and simple. Land shouldn't have a vote.

Clinton won just 15% of the counties in America. You may think it is cool that just 15% of the counties decide the presidency but I think about 85% of the country may disagree with you.

Counties don't vote, people do

I am aware of that but 85% of the counties in this countries were won by the orange twidiot. I guess we should just say to 85% of the country stay home, don't vote because a handful of cities got this? No thanks.


85% of "counties" is not in any way equivocal to 85% of the people. The government represents the people. Why are you having such a hard time comprehending this?
 
2018-01-03 03:02:27 PM  

Yellow Beard: Mechanicum: Yellow Beard: cameroncrazy1984: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

And actually what happened is 3 million people who live in those areas didn't count.

The electoral college sucks, plain and simple. Land shouldn't have a vote.

Clinton won just 15% of the counties in America. You may think it is cool that just 15% of the counties decide the presidency but I think about 85% of the country may disagree with you.

Counties don't vote, people do

I am aware of that but 85% of the counties in this countries were won by the orange twidiot. I guess we should just say to 85% of the country stay home, don't vote because a handful of cities got this? No thanks.


This. As Abraham Lincoln famously said in the Gettysburg Address, ". . . we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain-that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom-and that government of the counties, by the counties, for the counties, shall not perish from the earth.
 
2018-01-03 03:03:05 PM  

Valis992000: Yep, must be true, Michael Wolff said so.......is he more or less credible than that Un-named Source guy?


...more.
 
2018-01-03 03:04:26 PM  

fragMasterFlash: This just in, a cache of top secret HRC emails has been found on the computer of a guy who goes by the name Strongbad.


fhqwhgads
 
d23 [BareFark]
2018-01-03 03:04:39 PM  

Bloody William: Yellow Beard: I am aware of that but 85% of the counties in this countries were won by the orange twidiot. I guess we should just say to 85% of the country stay home, don't vote because a handful of cities got this? No thanks.

How about we say one voter has one vote, and that mine shouldn't be worth a fraction of someone who simply has fewer, more spread-out neighbors than I do?


It's even worse than that.  Since these states have winner-take-all in the electoral college, a minority vote is worth even less in these places.  It's skewed on two levels: the vote for Trump is worth more in small states and the vote against Trump is worth virtually nothing.

As a non-Trump voter in Indiana, I essentially had NO vote in this election.
 
2018-01-03 03:05:20 PM  

fireclown: alienated: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

we, speaking as the majority of folks in SoCal voted for team pantsuit, and I am pretty sure folks in those other places did also, so your argument is invalid. Now, if you had said it keeps folks in suburbia and the prairies and the sticks in the game- you would be correct.

It isn't invalid.  Both teams, Red and Blue, had to at least pretend to give a fig what happened outside of the four or so major metro areas.  Without the EC, they don't, and flyover country will get sold out faster than you can say Jack Robinson in an effort to win over the sophisticated urbanites.


If a candidate wins the vote in the ten most populous states, that would not be enough to constitute a majority of the Electoral college.  That's how terribly the EC skews the popular vote.
 
2018-01-03 03:05:54 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: Yellow Beard:
Clinton won just 15% of the counties in America. You may think it is cool that just 15% of the counties decide the presidency but I think about 85% of the country may disagree with you.

(wanking motion)

You know that means nothing, right? LOL.

In case you are so dim you don't know that, "counties won" is a meaningless metric that stupid fark Trump bragged about, temporarily, to make getting fewer votes than Clinton sound OK. He couldn't make the "millions of illegals voted" horseshiat stick, so he (or more likely one of his soulless minions, since he's not so good with the thinking) came up with the "counties" talking point.

It's like bragging about how many windows your car has, or debating tastes great vs. less filling.

Another data point that proves Republicans are the stupidest people on earth. The feeble pimping of weak shiat like this is, well, to use the biggest word the president actually knows the definition of: sad.


Yes but how many streets did Trump win? How many guns?
 
2018-01-03 03:05:59 PM  
Dear Diary,

Today was a funny sort of day ...
 
2018-01-03 03:06:29 PM  
At this point watching the Trumpers cling to anything is seriously pitiful.
 
2018-01-03 03:06:33 PM  

durbnpoisn: [img.fark.net image 500x375]


Really...  At any point, Trump can resign and walk away from this thing.  No one would think any less of him.  In fact, he would probably be hailed as a hero.

You hear that, Trump?  There is a chance that you can walk away from this and people will actually like you for it.  If you continue the path of pretending that everything is fine, while burning down the world around you, you will go down in history as a disgraced buffoon.


He can't walk away. He appears to be in legal trouble and if he's just an average citizen he'll have no power to control or shape the investigation, no power to pardon his family members that might get ensnared, and he'll have no bully pulpit to speak from.
 
2018-01-03 03:06:42 PM  
About the author.

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However,


FWIW: The several times I saw Wolff at the White House, he was cleared-in with a blue 'appointment" badge allowing West Wing access, rather than a gray "press" badge.

- Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) January 3, 2018


So he may be prone to exaggeration but he did have more access than most. And we know the folks Trump surrounds himself with are not particuarly media savvy when it comes to on/off the record and speaking on background. I suspect the meat of the story is true while some of the anecdotes are highly polished.
 
2018-01-03 03:07:07 PM  

Yellow Beard: cameroncrazy1984: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

And actually what happened is 3 million people who live in those areas didn't count.

The electoral college sucks, plain and simple. Land shouldn't have a vote.

Clinton won just 15% of the counties in America. You may think it is cool that just 15% of the counties decide the presidency but I think about 85% of the country may disagree with you.


Counties shouldn't matter only actual people should.
 
2018-01-03 03:07:49 PM  

andomania: Yellow Beard: cameroncrazy1984: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

And actually what happened is 3 million people who live in those areas didn't count.

The electoral college sucks, plain and simple. Land shouldn't have a vote.

Clinton won just 15% of the counties in America. You may think it is cool that just 15% of the counties decide the presidency but I think about 85% of the country may disagree with you.

Counties shouldn't matter only actual people should.


Counties are people, my friend!
 
2018-01-03 03:08:06 PM  

The Third Man: The only problem with this theory is the obvious one:  if he didn't want to be President then, why does he want to be President now?  It's not like the job is getting any easier or less stressful.  And he'd make a ton of money off of rubes if he resigned and blamed "the deep state" or "Killary" or some other nonsense for making his job impossible.

Bottom line is, as President Trump is hated by the people he wants to impress, and his base is comprised of the poor, uneducated folks he's looked down on his entire life.  As former President, he can make money off those poor, uneducated folks--and really, making money off of the easily-scammed is the only thing he's ever shown a real passion for doing--and the people he wants to impress will find someone else to hate.  But he's showing no interest in becoming a former President.  So maybe he does want to be the leader after all.


As a fark you to the assholes who elected him. Sorry America, but you've become a Ponzi scheme of assholes being assholes to other assholes. The brown hole system, as I call it.
 
2018-01-03 03:09:07 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: About the author.

[img.fark.net image 798x368]


However,


FWIW: The several times I saw Wolff at the White House, he was cleared-in with a blue 'appointment" badge allowing West Wing access, rather than a gray "press" badge.
- Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) January 3, 2018

So he may be prone to exaggeration but he did have more access than most. And we know the folks Trump surrounds himself with are not particuarly media savvy when it comes to on/off the record and speaking on background. I suspect the meat of the story is true while some of the anecdotes are highly polished.


It's apparently meaty enough to make Drumpf lose his shiat.
 
2018-01-03 03:09:23 PM  

Snapper Carr: Harlee: Snapper Carr: I wouldn't think any less of him* if he chose to resign.

*I am in fact, incapable of thinking any less of him so...

That would leave Pence in charge. Not sure you've thought your cunning plan all the way through here.

Pence is a god bothering idiot and would be a disaster but he appears to know how to act in a way that resembles a mature adult.

Regardless of what happens with Mueller's investigation or the midterms, there's no good outcome in the short term. Pence might be the least terrible option should D2S vacate the position.


I don't think so.  Pence is way more likely to get re-elected than Trump.
 
2018-01-03 03:09:41 PM  

Archidude: FortyHams: Sounds like they're going to have to completely redo the presidential bedroom after he leaves.

Tearing down the steel and concrete barrier that Melania had built down the center of the bed is going to be difficult.


Nope. From the article: "He retreated to his own bedroom - the first time since the Kennedy White House that a presidential couple had maintained separate rooms."

Even his own wife can't stand him.
 
2018-01-03 03:09:45 PM  
I put the right wing derp radio and Steve Bannon is now worse than Hillary. This is farking hilarious.
 
2018-01-03 03:09:46 PM  

fireclown: alienated: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

we, speaking as the majority of folks in SoCal voted for team pantsuit, and I am pretty sure folks in those other places did also, so your argument is invalid. Now, if you had said it keeps folks in suburbia and the prairies and the sticks in the game- you would be correct.

It isn't invalid.  Both teams, Red and Blue, had to at least pretend to give a fig what happened outside of the four or so major metro areas.  Without the EC, they don't, and flyover country will get sold out faster than you can say Jack Robinson in an effort to win over the sophisticated urbanites.


Please provide some examples of how the population centers will "sell out" "fly over country". WTF does that even mean?
 
2018-01-03 03:10:23 PM  

J.R. 'Bob' Chinaski: durbnpoisn: [img.fark.net image 500x375]


Really...  At any point, Trump can resign and walk away from this thing.  No one would think any less of him.  In fact, he would probably be hailed as a hero.

You hear that, Trump?  There is a chance that you can walk away from this and people will actually like you for it.  If you continue the path of pretending that everything is fine, while burning down the world around you, you will go down in history as a disgraced buffoon.

He can't walk away. He appears to be in legal trouble and if he's just an average citizen he'll have no power to control or shape the investigation, no power to pardon his family members that might get ensnared, and he'll have no bully pulpit to speak from.


Yet another parallel of this great man to the great Julius Caesar.
 
2018-01-03 03:11:28 PM  
Also, the illustrations are LOL-worthy.
 
2018-01-03 03:11:42 PM  

Rand Paul's Anus is Leaking: Snapper Carr: Harlee: Snapper Carr: I wouldn't think any less of him* if he chose to resign.

*I am in fact, incapable of thinking any less of him so...

That would leave Pence in charge. Not sure you've thought your cunning plan all the way through here.

Pence is a god bothering idiot and would be a disaster but he appears to know how to act in a way that resembles a mature adult.

Regardless of what happens with Mueller's investigation or the midterms, there's no good outcome in the short term. Pence might be the least terrible option should D2S vacate the position.

I don't think so.  Pence is way more likely to get re-elected than Trump.


But mid-terms may prove the GOP brand is toxic. Jesus Ronny probably would have a tough time getting the win in 2020
 
2018-01-03 03:12:05 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: The Third Man: and his base is comprised of the poor, uneducated folks he's looked down on his entire life.

Nope. What ElwoodCuse said. Trump won whites of every income level. He ran on racism and won on racism because America is f*cking racist.


This.
 
2018-01-03 03:12:09 PM  
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2018-01-03 03:12:48 PM  
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2018-01-03 03:13:45 PM  

Pats_Cloth_Coat: This text is now purple: Big Floppy Donkey Dick Nixon: I can't find it, but there is a picture from election night, right after the results are all in, that shows him looking absolutely mortified he's won. Everyone around him looks elated, but he is just sitting there with an "oh fark" look on his face

Everyone gets that look. The job ages people. It's like Moses coming down the mountain after having stood in the presence of God. Each year as President is like 4 in normal years.

[img.fark.net image 800x375]

On the left, 1858.  On the right, 1865.


in HS we saw a movie about Lincoln, In it was a sculptor working in clay who would change his face as the years wore on. Was a very powerful visual
 
2018-01-03 03:14:03 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: About the author.

[img.fark.net image 798x368]


However,


FWIW: The several times I saw Wolff at the White House, he was cleared-in with a blue 'appointment" badge allowing West Wing access, rather than a gray "press" badge.
- Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) January 3, 2018

So he may be prone to exaggeration but he did have more access than most. And we know the folks Trump surrounds himself with are not particuarly media savvy when it comes to on/off the record and speaking on background. I suspect the meat of the story is true while some of the anecdotes are highly polished.


Reminds me a little of Upton Sinclair's The Jungle - essentially a work of fiction, but based on the true accounts of people he interviewed.
 
2018-01-03 03:14:25 PM  

J.R. 'Bob' Chinaski: durbnpoisn: [img.fark.net image 500x375]


Really...  At any point, Trump can resign and walk away from this thing.  No one would think any less of him.  In fact, he would probably be hailed as a hero.

You hear that, Trump?  There is a chance that you can walk away from this and people will actually like you for it.  If you continue the path of pretending that everything is fine, while burning down the world around you, you will go down in history as a disgraced buffoon.

He can't walk away. He appears to be in legal trouble and if he's just an average citizen he'll have no power to control or shape the investigation, no power to pardon his family members that might get ensnared, and he'll have no bully pulpit to speak from.


If things go the way many of us expect (hope), he will not retain that power anyway.
For that matter, if he pushes too hard in his effort to "control or shape" the investigation, he may get slapped with an Obstruction charge (regardless of what his lawyer says).
 
2018-01-03 03:14:36 PM  

Prey4reign: Cthulhukefka: Big Floppy Donkey Dick Nixon: I can't find it, but there is a picture from election night, right after the results are all in, that shows him looking absolutely mortified he's won. Everyone around him looks elated, but he is just sitting there with an "oh fark" look on his face

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This one?

And, right behind an elated Mike Pence stands Donnie Half Scoop with a shiateatting grin on his face:
[img.fark.net image 480x360]


That elation from Pence is his plan all coming together.  Pence thinks on a magnitude of order higher level than D2S.  He's smart enough to have realized, then and now, that he's never going to get elected president on his own.  But in that moment you see him figuring out that he just got his agenda enacted without ever having to win his own election.
 
2018-01-03 03:14:46 PM  

stan unusual: fireclown: alienated: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

we, speaking as the majority of folks in SoCal voted for team pantsuit, and I am pretty sure folks in those other places did also, so your argument is invalid. Now, if you had said it keeps folks in suburbia and the prairies and the sticks in the game- you would be correct.

It isn't invalid.  Both teams, Red and Blue, had to at least pretend to give a fig what happened outside of the four or so major metro areas.  Without the EC, they don't, and flyover country will get sold out faster than you can say Jack Robinson in an effort to win over the sophisticated urbanites.

If a candidate wins the vote in the ten most populous states, that would not be enough to constitute a majority of the Electoral college.  That's how terribly the EC skews the popular vote.


I used to think the EC was a good idea, but I have a harder and harder time justifying it.  I can't come up with a good explanation for why the vote of someone in a rural community should count more than a vote of someone in an urban community.  For that matter, why is representation assigned to states and not just geographical areas, at least in the House?  Why should Wyoming, with its population of just over 500,000 get its own House Representative when the average constituency size per Rep is 750,000?  That's more representation!  Why?  How could that be considered Democratic?
 
2018-01-03 03:15:08 PM  

Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.


The whole American system is complicit.

Face it: Europe has the right idea.  Our "experiment" has failed.
 
2018-01-03 03:15:56 PM  

jst3p: fireclown: alienated: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

we, speaking as the majority of folks in SoCal voted for team pantsuit, and I am pretty sure folks in those other places did also, so your argument is invalid. Now, if you had said it keeps folks in suburbia and the prairies and the sticks in the game- you would be correct.

It isn't invalid.  Both teams, Red and Blue, had to at least pretend to give a fig what happened outside of the four or so major metro areas.  Without the EC, they don't, and flyover country will get sold out faster than you can say Jack Robinson in an effort to win over the sophisticated urbanites.

Please provide some examples of how the population centers will "sell out" "fly over country". WTF does that even mean?


He may be thinking of the fact that those 15% of Clinton counties provide 70% of GDP.

No wait, that's probably not it at all.
 
2018-01-03 03:16:11 PM  

Pats_Cloth_Coat: This text is now purple: Big Floppy Donkey Dick Nixon: I can't find it, but there is a picture from election night, right after the results are all in, that shows him looking absolutely mortified he's won. Everyone around him looks elated, but he is just sitting there with an "oh fark" look on his face

Everyone gets that look. The job ages people. It's like Moses coming down the mountain after having stood in the presence of God. Each year as President is like 4 in normal years.

[img.fark.net image 800x375]

On the left, 1858.  On the right, 1865.


Yeah.

Depression, marfans disease, suppressed bisexuality, and a farking civil war can take a toll.
 
d23 [BareFark]
2018-01-03 03:16:19 PM  

jst3p: Please provide some examples of how the population centers will "sell out" "fly over country". WTF does that even mean?


It means that the people he doesn't like, whether that be "dirty city people" or "brown people," get a bigger say so than he would like and will make a decision he doesn't agree with.
 
2018-01-03 03:16:39 PM  

kliq: I put the right wing derp radio and Steve Bannon is now worse than Hillary. This is farking hilarious.


Those hyenas sure do turn on their own in a heartbeat.
 
2018-01-03 03:16:43 PM  
Like it or not, we're stuck with the Electoral College. Why? Simple...it ultimately decides the winner, and the winner is not going to be the one who spearheads a movement to change it. You think Trump and the Rs will work to abolish it? Come next election when the Dems take POTUS and a majority of the seats, do you think they'll suddenly say, "OK, let's start tearing down the system that put us into office"? Nope, there's just no scenario I can see where the EC is dismantled as that effort needs to be started by the very folks who just benefited from it.
 
2018-01-03 03:16:47 PM  
Ho Lord, THIS nugget...

The First Children couple were having to navigate Trump's volatile nature just like everyone else in the White House. And they were willing to do it for the same reason as everyone else - in the hope that Trump's unexpected victory would catapult them into a heretofore unimagined big time. Balancing risk against reward, both Jared and Ivanka decided to accept roles in the West Wing over the advice of almost everyone they knew. It was a joint decision by the couple, and, in some sense, a joint job. Between themselves, the two had made an earnest deal: If sometime in the future the opportunity arose, she'd be the one to run for president. The first woman president, Ivanka entertained, would not be Hillary Clinton; it would be Ivanka Trump.
 
2018-01-03 03:17:01 PM  

Tomahawk513: stan unusual: fireclown: alienated: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

we, speaking as the majority of folks in SoCal voted for team pantsuit, and I am pretty sure folks in those other places did also, so your argument is invalid. Now, if you had said it keeps folks in suburbia and the prairies and the sticks in the game- you would be correct.

It isn't invalid.  Both teams, Red and Blue, had to at least pretend to give a fig what happened outside of the four or so major metro areas.  Without the EC, they don't, and flyover country will get sold out faster than you can say Jack Robinson in an effort to win over the sophisticated urbanites.

If a candidate wins the vote in the ten most populous states, that would not be enough to constitute a majority of the Electoral college.  That's how terribly the EC skews the popular vote.

I used to think the EC was a good idea, but I have a harder and harder time justifying it.  I can't come up with a good explanation for why the vote of someone in a rural community should count more than a vote of someone in an urban community.  For that matter, why is representation assigned to states and not just geographical areas, at least in the House?  Why should Wyoming, with its population of just over 500,000 get its own House Representative when the average constituency size per Rep is 750,000?  That's more representation!  Why?  How could that be considered Democratic?


And don't even get me started on the mother farking Senate...
 
2018-01-03 03:17:14 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: Wolff


The argument against: Here's a piece Suck.com did on Wolff after he parlayed his disastrous stint running a dot-com into a book about how disastrous his stint running a dot-com was. (It's from 1998, so they were apparently reading A Song Of Ice And Fire: "Dire Wolff". They even highlight the New York / New Yorker dichotomy so many are still tripping over.)

The argument for: Trump has, indeed, lost his shiat, and is burning bridges with Bannon. Wolff's access (per Zeke Miller's tweet referenced above) may well have been sufficient for this to be truthy-enough.

/i fear we have triggered a sleeping snowflake, and filled him with a great resolve...
 
2018-01-03 03:17:18 PM  
I wouldn't be surprised if he thought losing would also insulate him from prosecution since normal American presidents don't try to punish their rivals. Now he's farked.
 
MFK
2018-01-03 03:17:19 PM  
jesus, this article seems to have brought a ton of assholes out of the woodwork to deflect and threadshiat. Must be a little too close to the mark to require an all hands on deck response
 
d23 [BareFark]
2018-01-03 03:17:26 PM  

Rand Paul's Anus is Leaking: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

The whole American system is complicit.

Face it: Europe has the right idea.  Our "experiment" has failed.


Since the Bush, Jr. administration, I have started really thinking the parliamentary system is the right one.  When the diaper gets full of shiat it can be changed, no matter whether it has been 4 years or not.
 
d23 [BareFark]
2018-01-03 03:18:00 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: kliq: I put the right wing derp radio and Steve Bannon is now worse than Hillary. This is farking hilarious.

Those hyenas sure do turn on their own in a heartbeat.


There are no ideas. Only the tribe.
 
2018-01-03 03:18:38 PM  

jst3p: fireclown: alienated: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

we, speaking as the majority of folks in SoCal voted for team pantsuit, and I am pretty sure folks in those other places did also, so your argument is invalid. Now, if you had said it keeps folks in suburbia and the prairies and the sticks in the game- you would be correct.

It isn't invalid.  Both teams, Red and Blue, had to at least pretend to give a fig what happened outside of the four or so major metro areas.  Without the EC, they don't, and flyover country will get sold out faster than you can say Jack Robinson in an effort to win over the sophisticated urbanites.

Please provide some examples of how the population centers will "sell out" "fly over country". WTF does that even mean?


I heard this argument from a conservative concerning the EC: "What if all the cities get together and vote to chop down all the trees?" I was totally blown away; the argument was so ludicrous I didn't know how to deal with it.
 
2018-01-03 03:19:08 PM  

jst3p: fireclown: alienated: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

we, speaking as the majority of folks in SoCal voted for team pantsuit, and I am pretty sure folks in those other places did also, so your argument is invalid. Now, if you had said it keeps folks in suburbia and the prairies and the sticks in the game- you would be correct.

It isn't invalid.  Both teams, Red and Blue, had to at least pretend to give a fig what happened outside of the four or so major metro areas.  Without the EC, they don't, and flyover country will get sold out faster than you can say Jack Robinson in an effort to win over the sophisticated urbanites.

Please provide some examples of how the population centers will "sell out" "fly over country". WTF does that even mean?


Why wouldn't the opposite be equally true?  Why wouldn't "fly over country" sell out population centers?  I mean they just. did.for Pete's Sake!  This new tax bill is more harmful to those living in states with higher taxation (AKA Population Centers) than to those living in more rural states!
 
2018-01-03 03:19:15 PM  

Yellow Beard: cameroncrazy1984: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

And actually what happened is 3 million people who live in those areas didn't count.

The electoral college sucks, plain and simple. Land shouldn't have a vote.

Clinton won just 15% of the counties in America. You may think it is cool that just 15% of the counties decide the presidency but I think about 85% of the country may disagree with you.


So a plurality of voters should be ignored because they aren't spread out over enough land area and a minority of voters should decide who is president because they are scattered to hell and back?
 
MFK
2018-01-03 03:19:16 PM  

Rand Paul's Anus is Leaking: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

fark you.  All you deserve is one person one vote.  Your vote should not count more than mine, and currently it does, thanks to a wretched constitution designed to protect slavery and to generations of shiatheads who refused to improve or fix this "holy" document of American "exceptionalism".


yeah pretty much this. "we can't let NY and CA decide how the country is run so we let FL and OH do it instead"
 
2018-01-03 03:19:38 PM  
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/10/09​/​steve-bannon-hannity-bob-corker-and-es​tablishment-gop-must-be-voted-out

I wonder if Sterno Bannon has been telling Cruz he'll help engineer conditions for a primary in 2020
 
2018-01-03 03:19:43 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: kliq: I put the right wing derp radio and Steve Bannon is now worse than Hillary. This is farking hilarious.

Those hyenas sure do turn on their own in a heartbeat.


It's the pseudo-penises.
 
2018-01-03 03:20:10 PM  
Walsh, who came to the White House from the RNC, represented a certain Republican ideal: clean, brisk, orderly, efficient.

Really?
 
2018-01-03 03:20:20 PM  

Antidamascus: Smelly Pirate Hooker: Yellow Beard:
Clinton won just 15% of the counties in America. You may think it is cool that just 15% of the counties decide the presidency but I think about 85% of the country may disagree with you.

(wanking motion)

You know that means nothing, right? LOL.

In case you are so dim you don't know that, "counties won" is a meaningless metric that stupid fark Trump bragged about, temporarily, to make getting fewer votes than Clinton sound OK. He couldn't make the "millions of illegals voted" horseshiat stick, so he (or more likely one of his soulless minions, since he's not so good with the thinking) came up with the "counties" talking point.

It's like bragging about how many windows your car has, or debating tastes great vs. less filling.

Another data point that proves Republicans are the stupidest people on earth. The feeble pimping of weak shiat like this is, well, to use the biggest word the president actually knows the definition of: sad.

Yes but how many streets did Trump win? How many guns?


Watching adults -- I assume most of the people here are adults -- seriously repeating the stupid that Faux News shiats out, as if it's actual useful information, is depressing.

Identifying the stupid on Fark feels like cleaning barf or shiat out of the carpet. Necessary, but not fun. Despite my sarcastic LOL.
 
2018-01-03 03:20:22 PM  

Yellow Beard: cameroncrazy1984: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

And actually what happened is 3 million people who live in those areas didn't count.

The electoral college sucks, plain and simple. Land shouldn't have a vote.

Clinton won just 15% of the counties in America. You may think it is cool that just 15% of the counties decide the presidency but I think about 85% of the country may disagree with you.


"Counties" don't vote. People do. I don't agree with, or give two wet farts about how the people of Anchorage, Alaska, vote, but because I live in Alaska, my vote is thrown away as my state's EC votes go where Anchorage's voters go. How about stop caring what "land" wants and care for what the voters want?
 
2018-01-03 03:20:40 PM  

MFK: Rand Paul's Anus is Leaking: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

fark you.  All you deserve is one person one vote.  Your vote should not count more than mine, and currently it does, thanks to a wretched constitution designed to protect slavery and to generations of shiatheads who refused to improve or fix this "holy" document of American "exceptionalism".

yeah pretty much this. "we can't let NY and CA decide how the country is run so we let FL and OH do it instead"


Cuz everyone is clamoring to be more like Florida...
 
2018-01-03 03:21:04 PM  

Rand Paul's Anus is Leaking: Pats_Cloth_Coat: This text is now purple: Big Floppy Donkey Dick Nixon: I can't find it, but there is a picture from election night, right after the results are all in, that shows him looking absolutely mortified he's won. Everyone around him looks elated, but he is just sitting there with an "oh fark" look on his face

Everyone gets that look. The job ages people. It's like Moses coming down the mountain after having stood in the presence of God. Each year as President is like 4 in normal years.

[img.fark.net image 800x375]

On the left, 1858.  On the right, 1865.

Yeah.

Depression, marfans disease, suppressed bisexuality, and a farking civil war can take a toll.


I understand he also had to fight vampires at the same time, but you won't hear the Mainstream Media reporting on that!
 
2018-01-03 03:21:28 PM  
That's the trick, isn't it? Wanting the job while giving the impression that you could take it or leave it.

So far, I see hundreds of members of Congress from both parties who at least realized that they did have a job to do, and letting the el-gran-jefe of the moment rule by decree wasn't going to cut it.

I expect this newly-rediscovered principle to vanish as soon as Trump does.
 
2018-01-03 03:21:28 PM  

Harlee: Snatch Bandergrip: 5 years ago, I wrote a spec pilot for a writing class in which a wildly ignorant, irresponsible, corrupt congressman tries to sabotage his own presidential campaign, but it backfires because the American people are so farking dumb that his polls go up with every idiotic, disgusting move.

I wrote that shiat five years ago.

The Mouse That Roared.


Don't know it, but I'll take a look, thanks
 
2018-01-03 03:22:22 PM  

RoomFullOfMonkeys: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

So because some people live in the middle of nowhere you think their votes should count more than those of people who live where the jobs are?


And who seem to be so resentful of the people who left to find something better that they're willing to vote for someone who promised them that the jobs they used to have would come back, when all available objective evidence suggests that they won't?

Moreover, I'm not understanding how 'flyover' country would be forgotten.  If Obama's (or HRC or any Dems) ideas about a stimulus package had been given greater consideration in Congress, you can be sure that some of the most needy areas in flyover country would have benefitted.  Dems are committed to making sure the ACA is improved; how wouldn't that help the opiate epidemic in IN as well as in PA or ME?  Dems tend to support legislation that helps the many, regardless of what area of the country in which they live.  Talk about being ignored - let's talk about the tax bill which benefits the wealthy who predominately live in the so-called blue states. JFC on a cracker!

/There is no reason for the EC in this day and age
//One person, one vote, period
///People, not Land
 
2018-01-03 03:22:24 PM  

xanadian: That "news article" reads like fan fiction.

For example:  did Murdock REALLY say "what a f*cking idiot"?  And to whom?  And who else heard it?  Was that really reported to someone?  Or are we just speculation as to what went on behind the scenes?


That's what i thought, too.  It has a comic book quality to it.  Typical lib Farkers will absolutely eat it up, though
 
2018-01-03 03:23:17 PM  
I still don't understand what would make a bunch of southern red state evangelicals vote for a New York yankee billionaire.  What strange sort of mental gymnastics made that possible?

They actually think he's one of them.  How?
 
2018-01-03 03:23:40 PM  

Tomahawk513: stan unusual: fireclown: alienated: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

we, speaking as the majority of folks in SoCal voted for team pantsuit, and I am pretty sure folks in those other places did also, so your argument is invalid. Now, if you had said it keeps folks in suburbia and the prairies and the sticks in the game- you would be correct.

It isn't invalid.  Both teams, Red and Blue, had to at least pretend to give a fig what happened outside of the four or so major metro areas.  Without the EC, they don't, and flyover country will get sold out faster than you can say Jack Robinson in an effort to win over the sophisticated urbanites.

If a candidate wins the vote in the ten most populous states, that would not be enough to constitute a majority of the Electoral college.  That's how terribly the EC skews the popular vote.

I used to think the EC was a good idea, but I have a harder and harder time justifying it.  I can't come up with a good explanation for why the vote of someone in a rural community should count more than a vote of someone in an urban community.  For that matter, why is representation assigned to states and not just geographical areas, at least in the House?  Why should Wyoming, with its population of just over 500,000 get its own House Representative when the average constituency size per Rep is 750,000?  That's more representation!  Why?  How could that be considered Democratic?


Well, I can see some logic in the concept of "states' rights" as a Michigan resident.  When the country dries up and the Great Lakes are the easiest source of fresh water around in a few decades we don't want the morans who moved to the desert to get access to our water.  Getting a little extra leverage on that issue is nice to protect our local resources.  We suffer through these winters just for the payoff of saying "fark you" to all the people in Arizona on that day.
 
2018-01-03 03:24:58 PM  
We're headed for the gredunza on this thread.  Easy.
 
2018-01-03 03:25:28 PM  
I like how 2/3's of this thread is about the article and a steady third is arguing back and forth about the merits/problems of the Electoral College.

I know, I know...

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2018-01-03 03:26:07 PM  

Tomahawk513: stan unusual: fireclown: alienated: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

we, speaking as the majority of folks in SoCal voted for team pantsuit, and I am pretty sure folks in those other places did also, so your argument is invalid. Now, if you had said it keeps folks in suburbia and the prairies and the sticks in the game- you would be correct.

It isn't invalid.  Both teams, Red and Blue, had to at least pretend to give a fig what happened outside of the four or so major metro areas.  Without the EC, they don't, and flyover country will get sold out faster than you can say Jack Robinson in an effort to win over the sophisticated urbanites.

If a candidate wins the vote in the ten most populous states, that would not be enough to constitute a majority of the Electoral college.  That's how terribly the EC skews the popular vote.

I used to think the EC was a good idea, but I have a harder and harder time justifying it.  I can't come up with a good explanation for why the vote of someone in a rural community should count more than a vote of someone in an urban community.  For that matter, why is representation assigned to states and not just geographical areas, at least in the House?  Why should Wyoming, with its population of just over 500,000 get its own House Representative when the average constituency size per Rep is 750,000?  That's more representation!  Why?  How could that be considered Democratic?


Because the racist assholes are more spread out geographically than the "urban" people.
 
2018-01-03 03:26:07 PM  

fireclown: alienated: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

we, speaking as the majority of folks in SoCal voted for team pantsuit, and I am pretty sure folks in those other places did also, so your argument is invalid. Now, if you had said it keeps folks in suburbia and the prairies and the sticks in the game- you would be correct.

It isn't invalid.  Both teams, Red and Blue, had to at least pretend to give a fig what happened outside of the four or so major metro areas.  Without the EC, they don't, and flyover country will get sold out faster than you can say Jack Robinson in an effort to win over the sophisticated urbanites.


That's complete idiocy.

If you eliminate the electoral college, EVERY vote counts, from everywhere in the country.  It eliminates presidential elections being about landmass, and makes them about humans.  A vote in Podunk Idaho counts exactly the same as a vote in the Bronx.

Right now, that vote in the Bronx doesn't mean much.  And that deplorable's vote in Podunk counts for a whole lot more than it should.

If it hadn't been for the electoral college, not only would Drumpf not have been president, the margin would have been a lot bigger than 3 million votes because there would not have been the incentive to stay home and let somebody else bother that there was in states like NY and CA.

/We also need preference voting, to remove the concept of votes for third parties being spoilers.
 
2018-01-03 03:26:15 PM  

FortyHams: Sounds like they're going to have to completely redo the presidential bedroom after he leaves.


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d23 [BareFark]
2018-01-03 03:26:25 PM  

BeautifulOnes: Moreover, I'm not understanding how 'flyover' country would be forgotten.


He was just parroting an old "common sense" argument that, like many common sense arguments, doesn't hold water when you drill down into it.

The fact is that it would open up more strategies politically than we currently have.  You could have a rural strategy that goes after all the rural parts of the states and selective population centers to counter all the east and west coast dirty hippies, for example.
 
2018-01-03 03:26:59 PM  

Preston Preston: I still don't understand what would make a bunch of southern red state evangelicals vote for a New York yankee billionaire.  What strange sort of mental gymnastics made that possible?

They actually think he's one of them.  How?


They're stupid.
 
2018-01-03 03:27:00 PM  

Preston Preston: I still don't understand what would make a bunch of southern red state evangelicals vote for a New York yankee billionaire.  What strange sort of mental gymnastics made that possible?

They actually think he's one of them.  How?


He says all of the things they think when they're at work, but only say when they've had too many beers at Thanksgiving dinner.
 
2018-01-03 03:28:58 PM  
All of this and not one Mr. Garrison reference?
 
2018-01-03 03:29:39 PM  

NevynFox: Well, you shouldn't have handed it out to everyone you saw.

Now look what you did.


I'm a screenwriter. I have a biological imperative to pester every soul I encounter with my puerile dribblings. My dog has started drinking.
 
2018-01-03 03:29:59 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: Preston Preston: I still don't understand what would make a bunch of southern red state evangelicals vote for a New York yankee billionaire.  What strange sort of mental gymnastics made that possible?

They actually think he's one of them.  How?

They're stupid.


Nope, that's not it.  They despise Trump, make no mistake about it.

They just despise Hillary more.
 
2018-01-03 03:30:41 PM  

d23: Rand Paul's Anus is Leaking: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

The whole American system is complicit.

Face it: Europe has the right idea.  Our "experiment" has failed.

Since the Bush, Jr. administration, I have started really thinking the parliamentary system is the right one.  When the diaper gets full of shiat it can be changed, no matter whether it has been 4 years or not.


IOW, if you can't win the game using the current rules, change them.
 
2018-01-03 03:30:49 PM  

DarkVader: That's complete idiocy.


It is.  Right like cities are juts going to completely forget where food comes from.  Yup.  In this age of renewed focus on the quality, health, and sourcing of foods we're just gonna forget all that.
 
2018-01-03 03:30:59 PM  
I said this months ago - I may even have  posted it to fark: winning was the *worst* possible result. My take: he originally decided to run for sheer ego... and because he hoped he could gain enough political leverage to kill the FBI investigations into money laundering and tax evasion. Y'know, like the way his lawyer came to the NYC DA, and made a $25k "donation" to his reelection campaign, and suddenly, completely unrelated, the DA told his staff to drop the almost-ready-to-file-charges against Jared and Ivanka for fraud.

Then he started winning primaries, and his ego kicked in. And he hated the "older" money, because they considered him nouveau riche, and a creep, and a jerk.. So he pushed... but kept expecting to not get the nomination. When he did, his ego overrode what sense he had.

And over the summer, there was an interview where he was complaining that he hated the job, he couldn't drive, *everyyhing* was inside a security cocoon, and he couldn't just pay people off... because he's under a microscope. And he's surely getting grief (and fewer lays) from Melania, who hates it all, for the same reasons.
 
2018-01-03 03:31:08 PM  
Meanwhile, Robby Mook - in his brilliance - couldn't figure out how to beat this farking nimrod.
 
2018-01-03 03:31:11 PM  
From Trump's respone-

Steve Bannon has nothing to do with me or my Presidency. When he was fired, he not only lost his job, he lost his mind. Steve was a staffer who worked for me after I had already won the nomination by defeating seventeen candidates, often described as the most talented field ever assembled in the Republican party.

Thatbunch of in-bred ass clowns?  Thatwas the most talented field ever assembled for the Republican party?
 
2018-01-03 03:31:44 PM  

Preston Preston: I still don't understand what would make a bunch of southern red state evangelicals vote for a New York yankee billionaire.  What strange sort of mental gymnastics made that possible?

They actually think he's one of them.  How?


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2018-01-03 03:32:04 PM  

Preston Preston: I still don't understand what would make a bunch of southern red state evangelicals vote for a New York yankee billionaire. What strange sort of mental gymnastics made that possible?


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2018-01-03 03:33:11 PM  

DarkVader: fireclown: alienated: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

we, speaking as the majority of folks in SoCal voted for team pantsuit, and I am pretty sure folks in those other places did also, so your argument is invalid. Now, if you had said it keeps folks in suburbia and the prairies and the sticks in the game- you would be correct.

It isn't invalid.  Both teams, Red and Blue, had to at least pretend to give a fig what happened outside of the four or so major metro areas.  Without the EC, they don't, and flyover country will get sold out faster than you can say Jack Robinson in an effort to win over the sophisticated urbanites.

That's complete idiocy.

If you eliminate the electoral college, EVERY vote counts, from everywhere in the country.  It eliminates presidential elections being about landmass, and makes them about humans.  A vote in Podunk Idaho counts exactly the same as a vote in the Bronx.

Right now, that vote in the Bronx doesn't mean much.  And that deplorable's vote in Podunk counts for a whole lot more than it should.

If it hadn't been for the electoral college, not only would Drumpf not have been president, the margin would have been a lot bigger than 3 million votes because there would not have been the incentive to stay home and let somebody else bother that there was in states like NY and CA.

/We also need preference voting, to remove the concept of votes for third parties being spoilers.


and you just showed that you have no qualms about the tyranny of the majority. What you have done is basically made every minority and protected class person subject to the majority rule. Perhaps you should read about WHY this is a bad idea before trying to go with true democracy. There is a very good reason our system is setup the way it is. Just because you haven't won enough doesn't inherently make it bad.
 
2018-01-03 03:33:54 PM  
As the French say, "what a farking surprise."
 
2018-01-03 03:34:58 PM  

BigGrnEggGriller: d23: Rand Paul's Anus is Leaking: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

The whole American system is complicit.

Face it: Europe has the right idea.  Our "experiment" has failed.

Since the Bush, Jr. administration, I have started really thinking the parliamentary system is the right one.  When the diaper gets full of shiat it can be changed, no matter whether it has been 4 years or not.

IOW, if you can't win the game using the current rules, change them.


What is this I can't even... We literally change the rules all the time for various reasons.  We just changed tax laws because rich people weren't winning enough.  We busted up monopolies because small businesses and consumers weren't winning enough in the early 20th century.  Why is trying to change the rules because you're not winning a bad thing?
 
2018-01-03 03:35:33 PM  

Tomahawk513: DarkVader: That's complete idiocy.

It is.  Right like cities are juts going to completely forget where food comes from.  Yup.  In this age of renewed focus on the quality, health, and sourcing of foods we're just gonna forget all that.


Food comes from California, right?

/yesitdoes
/
 
2018-01-03 03:36:24 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Of course he never wanted to win. He never planned on winning. His goal was to throw so much shiat at Hillary that her presidency would be crippled with fake scandals and allegations.

From there he'd get his Russia pay (Putin wants America destabilized, nothing more) and be able to start his Trump News Network with alt-right news alt-the time.

His worst mistake was running. His worst nightmare is winning.


You skipped ahead.

He started it as a simple PR stunt like in 2012.

Then his racist comments started rising in the polls. And Trump's ego can't turn down a popularity contest so he actually tried to run.

And when Putin came calling, Trump isn't passing on any help to win said popularity contest.

Also I don't think he knew what "President" entailed.
 
2018-01-03 03:37:03 PM  

Ed Grubermann: Preston Preston: I still don't understand what would make a bunch of southern red state evangelicals vote for a New York yankee billionaire.  What strange sort of mental gymnastics made that possible?

They actually think he's one of them.  How?

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Off topic, but does anyone know who this happy couple is?   I'd love for someone to interview them now and ask them, "How does it feel to be the poster children for idiocy?".
 
2018-01-03 03:37:32 PM  

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Given the funnies you received seems like I wasn't the only one who thought this was satire.  The age of Poe's law. Jeebus.
 
2018-01-03 03:37:53 PM  

kindms: DarkVader: fireclown: alienated: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

we, speaking as the majority of folks in SoCal voted for team pantsuit, and I am pretty sure folks in those other places did also, so your argument is invalid. Now, if you had said it keeps folks in suburbia and the prairies and the sticks in the game- you would be correct.

It isn't invalid.  Both teams, Red and Blue, had to at least pretend to give a fig what happened outside of the four or so major metro areas.  Without the EC, they don't, and flyover country will get sold out faster than you can say Jack Robinson in an effort to win over the sophisticated urbanites.

That's complete idiocy.

If you eliminate the electoral college, EVERY vote counts, from everywhere in the country.  It eliminates presidential elections being about landmass, and makes them about humans.  A vote in Podunk Idaho counts exactly the same as a vote in the Bronx.

Right now, that vote in the Bronx doesn't mean much.  And that deplorable's vote in Podunk counts for a whole lot more than it should.

If it hadn't been for the electoral college, not only would Drumpf not have been president, the margin would have been a lot bigger than 3 million votes because there would not have been the incentive to stay home and let somebody else bother that there was in states like NY and CA.

/We also need preference voting, to remove the concept of votes for third parties being spoilers.

and you just showed that you have no qualms about the tyranny of the majority. What you have done is basically made every minority and protected class person subject to the majority rule. Perhaps you should read about WHY this is a bad idea before trying to go with true democracy. There is a very good reason our system is setup the way it is. Just because you haven't won enough doesn't inherently make it bad.


There are protections for the minority segments of our population. You are advocating minority rule, which batshart insane.
 
2018-01-03 03:37:57 PM  

Officer Barrelroll: He might be my new favorite artist.

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I want that on a t-shirt.
 
2018-01-03 03:38:14 PM  

fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.



"Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong."

Its the opposite. How much serious attention did either team give to those markets?
Zero.
Because they were known outcomes. No one had to waste any money in those regions campaigning.

The places that get the most attention are a few mid-population counties in specific states that can actually result in a swing of that state.

Get rid of the EC?
EVERY VOTE MATTERS.
The guy in Cambridge MA has his vote count just as much as the guy in Tulsa OK or the guy in Jacksonville FL.

They HAVE to campaign everywhere.

As for the 15% county remark that someone else made....
Those were, for the most part, the wealthy counties.

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2018-01-03 03:38:16 PM  

kindms: DarkVader: fireclown: alienated: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

we, speaking as the majority of folks in SoCal voted for team pantsuit, and I am pretty sure folks in those other places did also, so your argument is invalid. Now, if you had said it keeps folks in suburbia and the prairies and the sticks in the game- you would be correct.

It isn't invalid.  Both teams, Red and Blue, had to at least pretend to give a fig what happened outside of the four or so major metro areas.  Without the EC, they don't, and flyover country will get sold out faster than you can say Jack Robinson in an effort to win over the sophisticated urbanites.

That's complete idiocy.

If you eliminate the electoral college, EVERY vote counts, from everywhere in the country.  It eliminates presidential elections being about landmass, and makes them about humans.  A vote in Podunk Idaho counts exactly the same as a vote in the Bronx.

Right now, that vote in the Bronx doesn't mean much.  And that deplorable's vote in Podunk counts for a whole lot more than it should.

If it hadn't been for the electoral college, not only would Drumpf not have been president, the margin would have been a lot bigger than 3 million votes because there would not have been the incentive to stay home and let somebody else bother that there was in states like NY and CA.

/We also need preference voting, to remove the concept of votes for third parties being spoilers.

and you just showed that you have no qualms about the tyranny of the majority. What you have done is basically made every minority and protected class person subject to the majority rule. Perhaps you should ...


You'd have a point if the party that won a minority of votes wasn't also the one oppressing minorities.  Maybe we need more of this "tyranny of the majority"?  Seemed to work out well for Gay Marriage, Abortion, Trans-rights, refugees, immigrants, racial minorities, women... Wow, you know, seems like the only group for which "tyranny of the majority" isn't beneficial (necessarily) is white men.  Huh.
 
2018-01-03 03:38:43 PM  
Jeebus Farktarded Christ on a pogo stick.  Just when I think America can't be any more farked, another layer of ooze slides off the "Trump Administration" and I gag at the putrid reek of what's revealed.  I've never loathed another person this much.
 
2018-01-03 03:39:29 PM  
If he he didn't want to win, then why did his campaign break so many laws?
 
2018-01-03 03:40:11 PM  

Palined Parenthood: If he he didn't want to win, then why did his campaign break so many laws?


Incompetence
 
2018-01-03 03:40:26 PM  

kindms: DarkVader: fireclown: alienated: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

we, speaking as the majority of folks in SoCal voted for team pantsuit, and I am pretty sure folks in those other places did also, so your argument is invalid. Now, if you had said it keeps folks in suburbia and the prairies and the sticks in the game- you would be correct.

It isn't invalid.  Both teams, Red and Blue, had to at least pretend to give a fig what happened outside of the four or so major metro areas.  Without the EC, they don't, and flyover country will get sold out faster than you can say Jack Robinson in an effort to win over the sophisticated urbanites.

That's complete idiocy.

If you eliminate the electoral college, EVERY vote counts, from everywhere in the country.  It eliminates presidential elections being about landmass, and makes them about humans.  A vote in Podunk Idaho counts exactly the same as a vote in the Bronx.

Right now, that vote in the Bronx doesn't mean much.  And that deplorable's vote in Podunk counts for a whole lot more than it should.

If it hadn't been for the electoral college, not only would Drumpf not have been president, the margin would have been a lot bigger than 3 million votes because there would not have been the incentive to stay home and let somebody else bother that there was in states like NY and CA.

/We also need preference voting, to remove the concept of votes for third parties being spoilers.

and you just showed that you have no qualms about the tyranny of the majority. What you have done is basically made every minority and protected class person subject to the majority rule. Perhaps you should ...


You mean the candidate with the most votes winning?  The way literally every other election in America works?  We're geting tryanny now with the electoral college, and it definitely ain't from the farking majority.
 
2018-01-03 03:41:34 PM  
I love Love LOVE that Ann Coulter, of all people, has to remind him that he can't just appoint his kids Chief of Staff.
 
2018-01-03 03:41:37 PM  

d23: BeautifulOnes: Moreover, I'm not understanding how 'flyover' country would be forgotten.

He was just parroting an old "common sense" argument that, like many common sense arguments, doesn't hold water when you drill down into it.

The fact is that it would open up more strategies politically than we currently have.  You could have a rural strategy that goes after all the rural parts of the states and selective population centers to counter all the east and west coast dirty hippies, for example.


EXACTLY.
 
2018-01-03 03:43:13 PM  

Palined Parenthood: If he he didn't want to win, then why did his campaign break so many laws?


Sorry, I said "he" twice, but I don't like he.
 
2018-01-03 03:43:45 PM  

Palined Parenthood: If he he didn't want to win, then why did his campaign break so many laws?


Didn't no any better.  And, he's Trump- regular laws don't apply to him.
 
2018-01-03 03:44:15 PM  

fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.


If your not being ignored means Trump in office, then fark your feelings.
 
2018-01-03 03:44:29 PM  

egomann: I love Love LOVE that Ann Coulter, of all people, has to remind him that he can't just appoint his kids Chief of Staff.


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2018-01-03 03:45:21 PM  

Big Floppy Donkey Dick Nixon: I can't find it, but there is a picture from election night, right after the results are all in, that shows him looking absolutely mortified he's won. Everyone around him looks elated, but he is just sitting there with an "oh fark" look on his face


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2018-01-03 03:46:19 PM  

Yellow Beard: Mechanicum: Yellow Beard: cameroncrazy1984: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

And actually what happened is 3 million people who live in those areas didn't count.

The electoral college sucks, plain and simple. Land shouldn't have a vote.

Clinton won just 15% of the counties in America. You may think it is cool that just 15% of the counties decide the presidency but I think about 85% of the country may disagree with you.

Counties don't vote, people do

I am aware of that but 85% of the counties in this countries were won by the orange twidiot. I guess we should just say to 85% of the country stay home, don't vote because a handful of cities got this? No thanks.


This is beyond stupid.  Damned few states are so wholly red or blue that a popular majority would be formed from them.  A candidate would have to win every individual vote in the nine most popular states to win a majority of the popular vote, assuming that every individual vote in the 41 less populated states voted for the other candidate.  Once minor parties are thrown into the mix it would take more like the 12 most populated states to win. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_S​t​ates_presidential_election,_2016#/medi​a/File:2016_Presidential_Election_by_V​ote_Distribution_Among_States.svg
 
2018-01-03 03:49:09 PM  

jst3p: Yellow Beard: Mechanicum: Yellow Beard: cameroncrazy1984: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

And actually what happened is 3 million people who live in those areas didn't count.

The electoral college sucks, plain and simple. Land shouldn't have a vote.

Clinton won just 15% of the counties in America. You may think it is cool that just 15% of the counties decide the presidency but I think about 85% of the country may disagree with you.

Counties don't vote, people do

I am aware of that but 85% of the counties in this countries were won by the orange twidiot. I guess we should just say to 85% of the country stay home, don't vote because a handful of cities got this? No thanks.

85% of "counties" is not in any way equivocal to 85% of the people. The government represents the people. Why are you having such a hard time comprehending this?


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2018-01-03 03:50:14 PM  

stir22: DarkVader: The Third Man: The only problem with this theory is the obvious one:  if he didn't want to be President then, why does he want to be President now?  It's not like the job is getting any easier or less stressful.  And he'd make a ton of money off of rubes if he resigned and blamed "the deep state" or "Killary" or some other nonsense for making his job impossible.

Bottom line is, as President Trump is hated by the people he wants to impress, and his base is comprised of the poor, uneducated folks he's looked down on his entire life.  As former President, he can make money off those poor, uneducated folks--and really, making money off of the easily-scammed is the only thing he's ever shown a real passion for doing--and the people he wants to impress will find someone else to hate.  But he's showing no interest in becoming a former President.  So maybe he does want to be the leader after all.

It's not that he wants to be president now, it's just the only way he can stay out of prison for a little while longer.

As soon as he's out of that office, NY is going to unseal their indictment, and I'm betting that, given his properties in multiple countries and available transportation assets (including private planes that are capable of reaching Russia or other countries that won't extradite), there's pretty much no chance he's going to get bail.

If he leaves office alive (which is a pretty big if considering his health) there's nothing that's going to keep him from going to prison for the rest of his life.

Well hello, Mr. Mueller!

Seriously, that's a pretty bold statement.  I mean, that's what we want, that's what we need...but, what exactly are you basing that on?


Oh, it's not insider information.

It doesn't need to be.  He's confessed to multiple crimes in his farking tweets, for f*ck's sake.

The list of NY state crimes he's committed (or is still committing, he's still got property there and his businesses are still crooked) is pretty long, and Mueller is working with Schneiderman to prosecute them.  NY has their own money laundering and tax evasion laws, their own organized crime laws, their own child sex abuse laws.

As to life, for a man in his health a sentence longer than a few years will be a life sentence.  I'd seriously doubt he'll get less than 20 in NY by the time this is all over.

/I wonder if Florida will prosecute too.
//California hasn't really started making much noise yet either.
///But NY loves the perp walks, so that will be the most fun.
 
2018-01-03 03:52:30 PM  

orezona: I like how 2/3's of this thread is about the article and a steady third is arguing back and forth about the merits/problems of the Electoral College.

I know, I know...

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It's really not that hard to connect the dots, dude.

The Electoral College, as it was stated here earlier, FAILED to do the very thing it was set up to do: keep an incompetent blowhard like Trump out of office.

You bet we're going to be talking about this shiat until we finally get it repealed.
It's just the farking beginning.
 
2018-01-03 03:52:38 PM  

LordOfThePings: Big Floppy Donkey Dick Nixon: I can't find it, but there is a picture from election night, right after the results are all in, that shows him looking absolutely mortified he's won. Everyone around him looks elated, but he is just sitting there with an "oh fark" look on his face

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Melania...'Goddammit, I hate that fat blob..."     with eyes closed.
Barron also has his eyes shut.
Pence..."The world....is mine...."   *evil laugh
 
2018-01-03 03:55:44 PM  

F5 F5 Esc: Dear Diary,

Today was a funny sort of day ...


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People seemed to get a bit bitey...
 
2018-01-03 03:56:41 PM  

iheartscotch: The Notorious HRC took a dive....


That might just be the biggest long con in this whole shiatshow.

HRC knew she could win, she had the popular vote, and 3 swing states were each decided by a few thousand votes each (and Mueller is taking a hard look at those states).

HRC can't stand Trump; has hated him for years.  She wants to be the 1st woman president, but decides Two Scoops has overplayed his hand, and she'd rather see him go down - along with his spawn - than win the election.  She knows that once he becomes Prez, everything about his life is open to scrutiny, and she has no doubt there are hundreds of skeletons in the closet.

She loses, still makes a few mil with her book, and has the Clinton Foundation as a backup.  Meanwhile, D2C is way over his head, and he's taking the GOP down with him.  In Nov., Congress turns blue and Trump is a lame duck until 2020, if he's not outright impeached before then.

This could be HRC's payback to the GOP for 30 years of hatred and unfounded investigations.
 
2018-01-03 03:57:50 PM  

stir22: LordOfThePings: Big Floppy Donkey Dick Nixon: I can't find it, but there is a picture from election night, right after the results are all in, that shows him looking absolutely mortified he's won. Everyone around him looks elated, but he is just sitting there with an "oh fark" look on his face

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Melania...'Goddammit, I hate that fat blob..."     with eyes closed.
Barron also has his eyes shut.
Pence..."The world....is mine...."   *evil laugh


Ooo, can we get that famous inauguration day GIF of the Melania 'face fall'?
 
2018-01-03 04:00:16 PM  

Tomahawk513: stan unusual: fireclown: alienated: fireclown: Katerchen: Good. Let this corrupt, broken two-party political system burn to the ground, along with the Electoral College, now that it was proven beyond doubt how flawed a concept it is 200+ years after its inception.

I politely disagree.  The EC is all that keeps every american who doesn't live in greater NYC, Southern CA, or Chicagoland from being completely ignored.

we, speaking as the majority of folks in SoCal voted for team pantsuit, and I am pretty sure folks in those other places did also, so your argument is invalid. Now, if you had said it keeps folks in suburbia and the prairies and the sticks in the game- you would be correct.

It isn't invalid.  Both teams, Red and Blue, had to at least pretend to give a fig what happened outside of the four or so major metro areas.  Without the EC, they don't, and flyover country will get sold out faster than you can say Jack Robinson in an effort to win over the sophisticated urbanites.

If a candidate wins the vote in the ten most populous states, that would not be enough to constitute a majority of the Electoral college.  That's how terribly the EC skews the popular vote.

I used to think the EC was a good idea, but I have a harder and harder time justifying it.  I can't come up with a good explanation for why the vote of someone in a rural community should count more than a vote of someone in an urban community.  For that matter, why is representation assigned to states and not just geographical areas, at least in the House?  Why should Wyoming, with its population of just over 500,000 get its own House Representative when the average constituency size per Rep is 750,000?  That's more representation!  Why?  How could that be considered Democratic?


The EC was a good idea for a 19th century agrarian country. It was also a necessity to placate slaveholders in the South (due to the 3/5ths compromise) and to avoid a political battle in how the President should be selected (by the people or by state government).

But it is obsolete. While there are some imbalances, the EC is fairly evenly distributed based on population. The problem is that it effectively disenfranchises a large minority of each state.

And, no it doesn't protect rural areas or small states. Nobody gives a damn about Wyoming, the smallest state, but everyone cares about Florida, one of the biggest states.

The thing that matters is the balance of politics in the states. In California the EC disenfranchises most rural residents while in Alabama it disenfranchises most urban residents.

Yeah, you would get more people campaigning in Texas and California, but people still cant ignore other states and Democrats campaigning in Alabama and Republicans in Washington now matter.

The large battleground states (ie florida) would lose the most while the small one party state stand to gain the most, since you generally are doing some stuff in the big partisan states anyway.
 
2018-01-03 04:02:57 PM