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(National Post)   Woman wants cab driver fired after he left her son on a rural road in -37 C weather, which is the temperature at which most Canadians will start to consider putting on a hat   ( nationalpost.com) divider line
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2018-01-03 01:08:15 PM  

TNel: Nick Nostril: Our resident Canadian here at work (alright, actually from Milwaukee, but sounds Canadian and is close enough anyway) wore a coat to work today. That should be cause for closing our place of business due to weather.

Got a call today that my youngest son went to school without a coat... it's 5 degrees (F) out.  Granted we live half a mile from school but I was like WTF.  He said he couldn't find it so he went to school like that.  Freaking kids now I'm sure the school is like wth is wrong with that family.


Did he at least walk uphill? You want him to have stories to tell his kids.
 
2018-01-03 01:11:47 PM  
"More than anything, she said, her son is shy of the media attention he's getting..."

And clearly it's bothering you too isn't it honey?
 
2018-01-03 01:14:58 PM  

SkipTracer: No lie, local school district in WNY has already cancelled classed for FRIDAY in anticipation of cold temps.


It's going to be -9 in the morning with 13mph winds means it's going to feel like -30+ so according to:
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that means 10mins to get frostbite... I know I've been outside waiting on a bus longer than that.  I don't blame them.
 
2018-01-03 01:18:43 PM  

Snarfangel: TNel: Nick Nostril: Our resident Canadian here at work (alright, actually from Milwaukee, but sounds Canadian and is close enough anyway) wore a coat to work today. That should be cause for closing our place of business due to weather.

Got a call today that my youngest son went to school without a coat... it's 5 degrees (F) out.  Granted we live half a mile from school but I was like WTF.  He said he couldn't find it so he went to school like that.  Freaking kids now I'm sure the school is like wth is wrong with that family.

Did he at least walk uphill? You want him to have stories to tell his kids.


LOL actually yes it is uphill to the school so he does have a story to tell.  Now he did have Gloves and a Beanie on so he had to look really odd with a T-Shirt on as well.
 
2018-01-03 01:27:53 PM  
Every cab I've been in since about 5 years ago has cameras or other recording equipment in them.  Where's the footage from this one?
 
2018-01-03 01:29:57 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: That kind of sounds like something I'd have done at 19. Very polite, unassertive, and the decision making skills of a 19 year old.


Yep, I'm sure I've made a bunch of dumb decisions trying not to inconvenience other people. Plus it sounds like this kid probably has an overbearing mother (especially since she went to the media with this.)
 
2018-01-03 01:31:14 PM  
TNel:  now I'm sure the school is like wth is wrong with that family.

To be fair, you are posting on Fark.
 
2018-01-03 01:31:36 PM  
He should've decided to have an adventure instead:

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2018-01-03 01:32:53 PM  

Mikey1969: Yeah, at the VERY least, the cab driver lets the guy out and IMMEDIATELY radios dispatch to tell them what's up. It gives him some kind of credibility, especially as it would show that he was concerned with the weather. Instead, just dumping him out and driving off doesn't make him look at all worried about the kid's chances of surviving.

Personally, I think the driver is full of shiat. Why would anyone insist on just getting out of the cab in the middle of nowhere?


Why would anyone who has done anything blatantly stupid and unwise have done it? No idea.... but it happens. If you've ever had a job where you interact with the general population at large on a regular basis you'd have dealt with people many, many times who make choices so obviously stupid that you wonder how the fark they managed to get out of their own house alive again today.

So sure, the cabby's assertion is quite possibly BS...... but it's also possible he's telling the truth. This young man doesn't seem to be the brightest bulb in the chandelier. I could go either way.
 
2018-01-03 01:35:18 PM  

darth_badger: Once you start searching for "Mom cuddle warm up" on GIS or Pornhub you have reached the end of internet porn.


Not even close dude... I do envy the pristine view of humanity you must still hold.
 
2018-01-03 01:38:00 PM  

fsufan: TNel:  now I'm sure the school is like wth is wrong with that family.

To be fair, you are posting on Fark.


But they don't know that... yet.
 
2018-01-03 01:46:46 PM  
Years ago I took the VIA rail from Vancouver to Toronto during the winter.  We stopped outside of some small town for a passenger to exit. It was -30 and no one was there to pick the person up, so the engineer backed the train up until we we're near houses and a road crossing.  The engineer then informed the rest of the passengers we were waiting until the person entered one of the houses to wait for their ride.

I never expected that level of customer  service from a train company.
 
2018-01-03 01:49:27 PM  

DrBrownCow: WTP 2: walk and THEN call ???
i would have called the second i got out.
yep, something is weird here...

Don't leave his friends and coat behind.  Call his mom instead of the cab.  Call his mom while in the cab watching the fare approach 40 bucks.  Tell the cab driver he has a debit card.  Tell the cab driver his mom would come outside to pay.   Call his mom as soon as he exited the cab.


Article says he walked twenty minutes (approx. 1 km) before calling mom.
 
2018-01-03 01:51:13 PM  

Bedstead Polisher: He should turn off the meter and drive you to your intended destination.


In Alberta it's mostly illegal to run without the meter except for regulated flat-rate routes.  It's to protect tourists from being gouged and to prevent drivers from working under the table.  Meters are even sealed to prevent tampering.  He was supposed to shut off the meter at the agreed price.
 
2018-01-03 01:52:50 PM  

Mugato: Jesus Christ, positive 37 degrees would make me try to find a Tauntaun to crawl into.


37C is normal body temperature. It would have to plummet to 36 before I'd complain.
 
2018-01-03 01:58:17 PM  
seems like a he said /she said  type situation.   Unless the cabbie can prove he got out on his own I think the Cabbie is in deep shiat.
 
2018-01-03 02:00:16 PM  

Richard Saunders: Article says he walked twenty minutes (approx. 1 km) before calling mom.


Right.   There were half a dozen choices he made that resulted in him being in the cold for more than a few minutes.
 
2018-01-03 02:03:56 PM  
19? He's a grown man. He should be smart enough to not go out in that kind of weather in just a hoodie and shouldn't need his mommy to fight his battles for him.  Or cuddle him to warm him up ewwwww.
 
2018-01-03 02:04:00 PM  

mama2tnt: He should've decided to have an adventure instead:

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Stealing it...because, at 16 yrs old, my best friend in high school did exactly this. He drove to my house. Twenty minutes after we left, he told me where the car came from.

/it was a hotel on Miami Beach
//gotdammit, David!
///ditched it 2 miles from hotel
 
2018-01-03 02:07:04 PM  

dv-ous: It's possible the cabbie is telling the truth, but the optics on this are not good given local history.


c'mon, rural alberta and saskatoon are way apart.
 
2018-01-03 02:17:04 PM  

DrBrownCow: Richard Saunders: Article says he walked twenty minutes (approx. 1 km) before calling mom.

Right.   There were half a dozen choices he made that resulted in him being in the cold for more than a few minutes.


Oh, absolutely. Kids can be dumb as hell. Mothers can be too. She oughta be thankful her son is alive/unharmed, stop with the media outrage, and use this as a more positive "teachable moment," 'cause it appears he needs it.


Cabbie v. Nineteen year old's stories? I'm going with a bit of both.
 
2018-01-03 02:24:48 PM  

Mikey1969: Personally, I think the driver is full of shiat. Why would anyone insist on just getting out of the cab in the middle of nowhere?


Either 1) His parents are the type who would whoop his ass if he showed up at the door with an angry cab driver demanding money, or 2) He has an ego the size of Texas and cannot fathom having to ask his parents for money to bail him out of a situation he put himself in.

I've seen young people do stupider shiat than that rather than ask for help, or admit they farked up.
 
2018-01-03 02:29:14 PM  

Dj Orange Threat: dv-ous: It's possible the cabbie is telling the truth, but the optics on this are not good given local history.

c'mon, rural alberta and saskatoon are way apart.


Oh, I misread the article - thought it said it was in Alberta. Stupid brain.
 
2018-01-03 02:38:14 PM  
Kid sounds like a doofus.
 
2018-01-03 02:51:21 PM  

Wave Of Anal Fury: Wearing just a hat and a hoodie, pants and dress shoes

Although I side with the kid, if this is the way he dressed in that weather, Darwin will eventually claim him.


Saw a news story last night - he gave his coat to his girlfriend earlier in the evening.  Still no defending stupidity - on both sides
 
2018-01-03 03:08:14 PM  

mongbiohazard: Mikey1969: Yeah, at the VERY least, the cab driver lets the guy out and IMMEDIATELY radios dispatch to tell them what's up. It gives him some kind of credibility, especially as it would show that he was concerned with the weather. Instead, just dumping him out and driving off doesn't make him look at all worried about the kid's chances of surviving.

Personally, I think the driver is full of shiat. Why would anyone insist on just getting out of the cab in the middle of nowhere?

Why would anyone who has done anything blatantly stupid and unwise have done it? No idea.... but it happens. If you've ever had a job where you interact with the general population at large on a regular basis you'd have dealt with people many, many times who make choices so obviously stupid that you wonder how the fark they managed to get out of their own house alive again today.

So sure, the cabby's assertion is quite possibly BS...... but it's also possible he's telling the truth. This young man doesn't seem to be the brightest bulb in the chandelier. I could go either way.


And what the cabbie SHOULD do in a situation like this is call dispatch at the very least and report this immediately. And that's the least... In reality, he should call the police and mention it, so they at least know where to look for the frozen body.
 
2018-01-03 03:15:32 PM  

boyvoyeur: Mikey1969: Why would anyone insist on just getting out of the cab in the middle of nowhere?

Terpsma said her son had been drinking that night but was not drunk or belligerent.

Kids who drink don't make the best decisions. I'm not sure mom is getting the whole truth.


He's 19 and mom is still helicoptering like this?

Yeah, I'm not inclined to believe her version of anything.
 
2018-01-03 03:32:06 PM  

Prince George: 19? He's a grown man. He should be smart enough to not go out in that kind of weather in just a hoodie and shouldn't need his mommy to fight his battles for him.  Or cuddle him to warm him up ewwwww.


Grown people make bad decisions from time to time.  I would hope that if I made such a foolish decision someone would care enough to step in and say "Hey I can't just stand by and watch something terrible happen to you."
 
2018-01-03 03:34:57 PM  

Wave Of Anal Fury: Wearing just a hat and a hoodie, pants and dress shoes

Although I side with the kid, if this is the way he dressed in that weather, Darwin will eventually claim him.


He had given his coat to his girlfriend earlier in the evening if you RTFA.
 
2018-01-03 03:35:13 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: Two stories, one from the cabbie and one from someone who had been drinking.  Meh, flip a coin.


If the kid had been drinking it actually makes it worse for the driver.

"It's policy that drivers don't drop off passengers when it's unsafe - even if they don't have money, Strong said."
 
2018-01-03 03:55:30 PM  

capt.hollister: NotThatGuyAgain: Two stories, one from the cabbie and one from someone who had been drinking.  Meh, flip a coin.

If the kid had been drinking it actually makes it worse for the driver.

"It's policy that drivers don't drop off passengers when it's unsafe - even if they don't have money, Strong said."


Cab drivers accept a "Duty of Care" when they take a fare into their vehicle.  That includes certain legal  obligations. It's more than possible this driver was in breach of that duty.
 
2018-01-03 04:23:06 PM  
Adult makes series of bad decisions.

Mommy wants someone else to lose their job for that.
 
2018-01-03 04:36:38 PM  

anustart: Mugato: Jesus Christ, positive 37 degrees would make me try to find a Tauntaun to crawl into.

37C is normal body temperature. It would have to plummet to 36 before I'd complain.


That's just with your weird moon-man method of temperature.
 
2018-01-03 06:08:47 PM  

uttertosh: Toxophil: //Dry cold is manageable with proper cloths. Just don't stop moving.

Oh, I've had far worse days in +4C here in Malmö at 85% humidity and blowing, than I had in Norrland with -19C and dryasabone. Same clothes, too.


I was in Malmo ( sorry no umlauts) 3 years ago for the World Junior hockey tournament. My wife had me buy her a Canada Goose coat because if I was going to take her to Sweden in the winter, she needed that coat. There from Dec. 26 to Jan 5, never saw the temps go below 4 C, she never wore the coat while we were there.
Nice city, people treated us drunken hockey fans well, New Year's eve was fantastic, surprised you don't burn your city down with all the fireworks.
Your "gold something" beer sucks but it was all I had at the arena for 11 days.
 
2018-01-03 06:11:28 PM  
Oh and I have a Redhawks t-shirt.
 
2018-01-03 06:20:20 PM  

Toxophil: *sigh*
*Puts on old man beard*
Back in my day, they'd only close down the schools for -50F and below, and yes, I'd walk a mile in the snow to and from the buss stop every day.
/Uphill, both ways.
//Dry cold is manageable with proper cloths. Just don't stop moving.
///Cabbie is still an idiot.


That's fine if you're prepared for it, but you never just drop somebody off without making sure that they're safe, in all ways. In that kind of weather, nobody is really safe out at night in the boonies. That's how horror movies get started.
Fark, if I passed someone walking down the road in that weather, I'd just about insist that they get in the car, unless they looked like an ax murderer or Jeremiah Johnson.

I saw a couple of probably methed-out people going out for a hike in Arizona when it was about 110--no hats, no special shoes, no water.....I just left them, but you know--people are dumb.
 
2018-01-03 06:32:28 PM  
What surprises me a little about the Fark reaction to this story is the number of stupid Farkers who actually believe the cabby.  I have to assume they've never taken a cab in their entire bucolic lives.
 
2018-01-03 07:37:15 PM  

knobmaker: What surprises me a little about the Fark reaction to this story is the number of stupid Farkers who actually believe the cabby.  I have to assume they've never taken a cab in their entire bucolic lives.


Stupid Farkers?  I take it you don't have much experience with kids who do something stupid, then cover for themselves by telling mom a different story.  Because if you had, you would understand why they're not jumping on the cabbie with full force rage.  I'm not going to jump on the cabby either, the kid may have decided to get out, thinking the meter was going to continue to run, and he'll get in trouble for the amount.  I'm calling him a kid, because he seems to lack life experiences to survive on his own.  I have a bro in his 30s who would screw this up.  Are there bad cabbies out there, sure, but don't always assume anything.
 
2018-01-03 08:30:29 PM  
Canadians have always been known to be weak, especially when it comes to freezing temperatures. Real Americans grab their soccer uniforms and pick up a ball at -40.

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2018-01-03 10:39:13 PM  
Sign of the ages and helicopter mom has her son wrapped in bubble wrap.  No need for you to take responsibility son, we will just hold everyone else accountable.  As the mother of a 19 year old son who you are still breast feeding by going to the news,  should you not have made sure he had enough money?  To have the cabbie lose his job over your little special flower not being prepared by your lack of parenting is disgraceful. I only hope she reads Fark (but we all know she probably doesn't)
 
2018-01-03 11:31:32 PM  

Mikey1969: mongbiohazard: Mikey1969: Yeah, at the VERY least, the cab driver lets the guy out and IMMEDIATELY radios dispatch to tell them what's up. It gives him some kind of credibility, especially as it would show that he was concerned with the weather. Instead, just dumping him out and driving off doesn't make him look at all worried about the kid's chances of surviving.

Personally, I think the driver is full of shiat. Why would anyone insist on just getting out of the cab in the middle of nowhere?

Why would anyone who has done anything blatantly stupid and unwise have done it? No idea.... but it happens. If you've ever had a job where you interact with the general population at large on a regular basis you'd have dealt with people many, many times who make choices so obviously stupid that you wonder how the fark they managed to get out of their own house alive again today.

So sure, the cabby's assertion is quite possibly BS...... but it's also possible he's telling the truth. This young man doesn't seem to be the brightest bulb in the chandelier. I could go either way.

And what the cabbie SHOULD do in a situation like this is call dispatch at the very least and report this immediately. And that's the least... In reality, he should call the police and mention it, so they at least know where to look for the frozen body.


Absolutely.
 
2018-01-04 12:02:28 AM  

lack of warmth: knobmaker: What surprises me a little about the Fark reaction to this story is the number of stupid Farkers who actually believe the cabby. I have to assume they've never taken a cab in their entire bucolic lives.

Stupid Farkers? I take it you don't have much experience with kids who do something stupid, then cover for themselves by telling mom a different story.


I take it you didn't read the article.  The cabbie violated the policy of his own company, as well as basic human decency, so it doesn't matter at all if the kid lied about what happened.  The maturity or judgment of the kid has nothing to do with the fact that the cabby farked up by the standards of his own employer.

/to be fair, my kids are a lot smarter than the Farkers who didn't bother to read the whole article before jumping on the get off my lawn bus.
 
2018-01-04 12:32:04 AM  

grokca: Your "gold something" beer sucks but it was all I had at the arena for 11 days.


Probably Tuborg, then. HEH.

grokca: Oh and I have a Redhawks t-shirt.


GO REDHAWKS!! I don't watch hockey, but I do have a redhawks shirt. (cool colourscheme and logo)

Glad you had it nice with us - do drop a line if you're back over, and I'll lead you to better beer. Promise! :)
 
2018-01-04 12:49:23 AM  

knobmaker: lack of warmth: knobmaker: What surprises me a little about the Fark reaction to this story is the number of stupid Farkers who actually believe the cabby. I have to assume they've never taken a cab in their entire bucolic lives.

Stupid Farkers? I take it you don't have much experience with kids who do something stupid, then cover for themselves by telling mom a different story.

I take it you didn't read the article.  The cabbie violated the policy of his own company, as well as basic human decency, so it doesn't matter at all if the kid lied about what happened.  The maturity or judgment of the kid has nothing to do with the fact that the cabby farked up by the standards of his own employer.

/to be fair, my kids are a lot smarter than the Farkers who didn't bother to read the whole article before jumping on the get off my lawn bus.


I did read it, and I also know no matter what policy is, a grown 19 yro brat has the right to get out of a cab.  What is the cabby going to say?  A legally grown man has the right to get out of a car if they want to.  Company policy doesn't outweigh the rights of the passenger.  You're just showing more and more how you don't know much.  It's a he said-he said, and there's no reason to lay into one without really knowing the truth, which will never be known.

/I seriously doubt the existence of your kids.
//There may have been offspring, but you're no parent.
 
2018-01-04 12:57:06 AM  

madethistopost: Sign of the ages and helicopter mom has her son wrapped in bubble wrap.  No need for you to take responsibility son, we will just hold everyone else accountable.  As the mother of a 19 year old son who you are still breast feeding by going to the news,  should you not have made sure he had enough money?  To have the cabbie lose his job over your little special flower not being prepared by your lack of parenting is disgraceful. I only hope she reads Fark (but we all know she probably doesn't)


Which does nothing to excuse the cabbie.  It doesn't matter one whit what the kid did or didn't do, or how much extrapolating you do.  Cabbies cannot abandon their fares in dangerous circumstances. That's not a difficult concept.
 
2018-01-04 01:00:18 AM  

lack of warmth: I did read it, and I also know no matter what policy is, a grown 19 yro brat has the right to get out of a cab. What is the cabby going to say?


Hey, genius.  The cab company has a policy of not dropping folks into dangerous situations.  Even if the cabby couldn't stop the kid from getting out, he had a legal responsibility to let someone know about what happened.  Did he?

/I seriously doubt the existence of your kids.
//There may have been offspring, but you're no parent.


Well, aren't you a swell example of humanity.

/At least we know what you are, right?
 
2018-01-04 10:04:07 AM  

Callous: Prince George: 19? He's a grown man. He should be smart enough to not go out in that kind of weather in just a hoodie and shouldn't need his mommy to fight his battles for him.  Or cuddle him to warm him up ewwwww.

Grown people make bad decisions from time to time.  I would hope that if I made such a foolish decision someone would care enough to step in and say "Hey I can't just stand by and watch something terrible happen to you."


I wouldn't let you die mind you but I'd let you suffer a bit in the interest of learning a life lesson and I'd certainly call you a dumbass.  At nineteen it's time to own your dumbassery not have mommy give you a cuddle you and threaten to beat up the mean old cabbie even if he is an asshole.  Cabbie probably should be fired but kid needs to grow a pair or ask Mommy if she can borrow his daddy's from her purse.
 
2018-01-04 12:04:10 PM  

knobmaker: lack of warmth: knobmaker: What surprises me a little about the Fark reaction to this story is the number of stupid Farkers who actually believe the cabby. I have to assume they've never taken a cab in their entire bucolic lives.

Stupid Farkers? I take it you don't have much experience with kids who do something stupid, then cover for themselves by telling mom a different story.

I take it you didn't read the article.  The cabbie violated the policy of his own company, as well as basic human decency, so it doesn't matter at all if the kid lied about what happened.  The maturity or judgment of the kid has nothing to do with the fact that the cabby farked up by the standards of his own employer.

/to be fair, my kids are a lot smarter than the Farkers who didn't bother to read the whole article before jumping on the get off my lawn bus.


The absolute least he could have done is contact dispatch if only to CYA. "Hey Lou, I have this dumb kid who insists on getting out in the middle of nowhere. Just letting you know".
 
2018-01-04 01:42:55 PM  

Prince George: ...Cabbie probably should be fired but kid needs to grow a pair or ask Mommy if she can borrow his daddy's from her purse.


Misogyny much?
 
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