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2018-01-03 11:38:15 AM  
...why?

Never mind the patronizing tone of the article, or the insistence that "it's an increasing trend" to convince you to do it - if you're drinking so much beer that you have to schedule a month off to "appreciate beer and not take it for granted", maybe changing your overall habits is in order. If you're drinking so much booze that you not only have to schedule a month off to "improve your health," but have to drink camouflaged beverages so that your drinking buddies don't realize that you're not drinking, maybe you need to figure out the definition of the word, "moderation", and how it should apply to you.

See, this whole "I took some time off to prove that I wasn't an alcoholic" bit is what alcoholics do to deny the simple fact that they're alcoholics. "Look - I've got self control! Now, back to the booze!"
 
2018-01-03 11:41:00 AM  
I'm doing it.
 
2018-01-03 11:51:53 AM  
Weed is dry, right?
 
2018-01-03 11:52:10 AM  
No one likes a quitter.
 
2018-01-03 11:52:35 AM  
Raises hand.

Of course I gave up drinking to keep my liver from going on strike.

/will get stoned instead
 
2018-01-03 11:53:24 AM  
I did it almost by accident last year.  Then I just kept doing it.  I'm still fat and intolerable, but I have more money now.
 
2018-01-03 11:53:42 AM  
I'm doing it... but only because I have a fussy two week old. So no beer for me, desire the dire need.
 
2018-01-03 11:54:10 AM  
F that.  The playoffs just started.
 
yms
2018-01-03 11:54:32 AM  
F that. Got some dragon stout, sam smiths chocolate stout, strawberry beer and rum and coke calling my name.
 
2018-01-03 11:54:55 AM  
That'd be me. I need to change my life.

Got the flu between Xmas and New Years. Haven't even missed it yet (the booze; I definitely don't miss the flu).  Amazing how much better I'm sleeping.
 
yms
2018-01-03 11:55:37 AM  

Rapmaster2000: F that.  The playoffs just started.


Yeah, F that my friend. Listen.... Can you hear the beers calling you?
 
2018-01-03 11:55:39 AM  
I drink so infrequently that these kinds of things (and the whole "all Farkers are drunks" thing) are a constant source of amusement for me. Somehow after the first few dozen hangovers I quickly decided that it was only worthwhile on special occasions.

Now, if only I could apply the same clarity to burger, curry, and pizza consumption.
 
2018-01-03 11:55:41 AM  
Is it really that hard to avoid alcohol and drink something else?

For me, drinking alcohol was never the default. I almost never drink it when I'm not in a social situation (by almost never, I mean I can probably count on my hands how many times I've had a drink when I was alone). Passing up alcohol in college might have proven a challenge from the peer pressure perspective, but if your friends are goading you on to drink once your past 25, you need to reevaluate that friendship and maybe see if they have a drinking problem.

Going to a regular bar to not drink does suck, though. Crappy food, a loud, not clean environment with essentially nothing to do but have decreasingly coherent conversations with your friends as they get drunk is about the least pleasant social experience for me. Good thing there are pool halls, sports bars, bowling alleys, driving ranges, movie theaters, and other people's apartments to do things with your friends at.
 
2018-01-03 11:56:03 AM  

Meat's dream: I did it almost by accident last year.  Then I just kept doing it.  I'm still fat and intolerable, but I have more money now.


I'm gonna do the same thing, but put it into a "fund".  By May I'll have my kayak and can then work on other new toys.
 
2018-01-03 11:56:06 AM  
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2018-01-03 11:57:36 AM  

lostcat: Now, if only I could apply the same clarity to burger, curry, and pizza consumption.


If you stick to the right kind of burgers, curry, and pizza, you can replicate the same kind of negative reinforcement as certain hangover symptoms when you indulge.
 
2018-01-03 11:57:39 AM  
Too late.
 
2018-01-03 11:57:53 AM  
I'm doing a booze free January, not out of nay particular trend, just happen to not have the cash for good beer right now, and I'd rather not waste my budget on mass market piss water.
 
2018-01-03 11:58:03 AM  
I prefer not to go in dry, for maximum comfort of all parties involved.

Oh...you were talking about drinking?  League night is Thursday.  Bowling seems to improve when you have more pins to throw at, seemingly.
 
2018-01-03 11:58:17 AM  
Y'all go ahead. I'll pick up yer slack.
Don't worry; I'll leave some for ya when ya quit quittin'.
 
2018-01-03 11:58:41 AM  
If there's anything this country needs, it's more alcoholics.
 
2018-01-03 12:00:17 PM  
Sure, I'll give it a whirl.

If I start throwing things, foaming at the mouth, and barking at people in a couple of days just pour me a gin and tonic and quietly leave the room.
 
2018-01-03 12:00:56 PM  
I have decided to drink all my current stock of alcohol before I buy more. So I am having bourbon, rye, whisky, whiskey and scotch till about mid year.
 
2018-01-03 12:01:11 PM  

FormlessOne: ...why?

Never mind the patronizing tone of the article, or the insistence that "it's an increasing trend" to convince you to do it - if you're drinking so much beer that you have to schedule a month off to "appreciate beer and not take it for granted", maybe changing your overall habits is in order. If you're drinking so much booze that you not only have to schedule a month off to "improve your health," but have to drink camouflaged beverages so that your drinking buddies don't realize that you're not drinking, maybe you need to figure out the definition of the word, "moderation", and how it should apply to you.

See, this whole "I took some time off to prove that I wasn't an alcoholic" bit is what alcoholics do to deny the simple fact that they're alcoholics. "Look - I've got self control! Now, back to the booze!"


Calm the F down.  You know, having a drink can help with that...
 
2018-01-03 12:01:31 PM  
"I'm not having children" comments have a lot in common with "I don't drink" comments.  There's a lot of protesting about the superiority of one's choice while at the same time lamenting the judgment one receives for their choice.
 
2018-01-03 12:02:40 PM  

LucklessWonder: I'm doing a booze free January, not out of nay particular trend, just happen to not have the cash for good beer right now, and I'd rather not waste my budget on mass market piss water.


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2018-01-03 12:02:41 PM  
If it's that hard for people to do, you should probably be giving it up period.
 
2018-01-03 12:03:17 PM  
I'm switching to Meth.

\just for January, though
 
2018-01-03 12:03:19 PM  
I drank before the Trump universe was even a thing.

I can't stop drinking knowing the Trump universe is a thing.

Once the Trump universe stops being a thing, I will keep drinking because f*ck you.
 
2018-01-03 12:03:31 PM  

The Frumious Bandersnatch: I'm doing it... but only because I have a fussy two week old. So no beer for me, desire the dire need.


Congratulations.
 
2018-01-03 12:03:49 PM  

FormlessOne: ...why?

Never mind the patronizing tone of the article, or the insistence that "it's an increasing trend" to convince you to do it - if you're drinking so much beer that you have to schedule a month off to "appreciate beer and not take it for granted", maybe changing your overall habits is in order. If you're drinking so much booze that you not only have to schedule a month off to "improve your health," but have to drink camouflaged beverages so that your drinking buddies don't realize that you're not drinking, maybe you need to figure out the definition of the word, "moderation", and how it should apply to you.

See, this whole "I took some time off to prove that I wasn't an alcoholic" bit is what alcoholics do to deny the simple fact that they're alcoholics. "Look - I've got self control! Now, back to the booze!"


This.  Sounds a bit like Fritz Hahn is an alcoholic, and should look into actually quitting (for more than just a month) before he hurts himself or others.
 
2018-01-03 12:05:16 PM  

FormlessOne: maybe you need to figure out the definition of the word, "moderation"


Either that, of get a better class of drinking buddies.
 
2018-01-03 12:05:20 PM  
For years I quit drinking from New Year to April Fool's day. (I always allow myself the whole of New Year's today as well as New Year's Eve.) I'm doing that this year.

I think it's a valuable tool in preventing physical addiction.

Also, I can quit anytime I want to and I used to prove it annually.

Got in trouble when I stopped that practice. Now that my life is back on track, I'll never drop that habit again. If I can't quit for three months a year it's time to hang it up for good.
 
2018-01-03 12:06:18 PM  
I'm giving it a try. Life turned increasingly crappy over the second half of 2017, and I found myself using alcohol to cope more than I really liked. The holidays saw the end of my good booze, anyway, and so it seems a good time to put the brakes on. We'll see.
 
2018-01-03 12:06:34 PM  
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2018-01-03 12:07:09 PM  

FormlessOne: ...why?

Never mind the patronizing tone of the article, or the insistence that "it's an increasing trend" to convince you to do it - if you're drinking so much beer that you have to schedule a month off to "appreciate beer and not take it for granted", maybe changing your overall habits is in order. If you're drinking so much booze that you not only have to schedule a month off to "improve your health," but have to drink camouflaged beverages so that your drinking buddies don't realize that you're not drinking, maybe you need to figure out the definition of the word, "moderation", and how it should apply to you.

See, this whole "I took some time off to prove that I wasn't an alcoholic" bit is what alcoholics do to deny the simple fact that they're alcoholics. "Look - I've got self control! Now, back to the booze!"


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2018-01-03 12:07:10 PM  
No.
 
2018-01-03 12:07:17 PM  

Nick Nostril: That'd be me. I need to change my life.

Got the flu between Xmas and New Years. Haven't even missed it yet (the booze; I definitely don't miss the flu).  Amazing how much better I'm sleeping.


I'm confused - some time between 9 days ago and 2 days ago, you contracted an illness that lasts about 6 days and subsequently stopped drinking alcohol, which you've now quit for so long that you feel numerous nights of restful sleep can be attributed to not drinking?
 
2018-01-03 12:08:25 PM  
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2018-01-03 12:09:18 PM  

bikerbob59: No.


You meeting me for happy hour?
 
2018-01-03 12:09:58 PM  
I had to dismantle my Christmas tree and take down the outdoor lights. Why in the hell would I do either of those things sober?
 
2018-01-03 12:10:10 PM  
Sure, this Jan. will be just as "dry" for me as the last 8 Januaries.

May roll an inception joint later today but I quit drinking in 2009.
 
2018-01-03 12:10:22 PM  

Nurglitch: Weed is dry, right?


If not you're getting ripped off. Nothing worst than buying a bag that's too wet to properly smoke and then loosing half the weight when you leave the bag open to dry out overnight. I know a lot of people like a slightly moist nug, but I like mine hard cured and bone dry to the point where it can be ground using only your fingers.

/I can't go dry, my new years resolution was to drink more.
 
2018-01-03 12:12:05 PM  
I got the flu Dec 17 and have had no alcohol since.  I may ride it out through January
 
2018-01-03 12:13:12 PM  

Erik_Emune: I'm giving it a try. Life turned increasingly crappy over the second half of 2017, and I found myself using alcohol to cope more than I really liked. The holidays saw the end of my good booze, anyway, and so it seems a good time to put the brakes on. We'll see.


Subby here.
After drinking mostly non stop daily for what seems like forever, and having pains in my sides and such (Liver? Kidneys? Pancreas? also from slipping and falling down on my side who knows)
I'm TWO WHOLE DAYS IN!!

We'll see how long it lasts.

I'll check back with you freaks for support.
(Yeah I did it before when I had a bar in my room in the dorm when I was in the Air Force, so it's possible.)

B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-uuttt I *like* drinking.

I'm going to go the lots of tonic and lime route and maybe non Alcoholic Beer (BUT WHY?!?!?)

2017 just sucked donkey dicks, got divorced after 2 years and $20,000 but I have custody of my kids, my house and all my retirement, so I got that going for me which is nice.

Single Sober Dad for 2018. Wish me luck.
 
2018-01-03 12:14:00 PM  

Nick Nostril: That'd be me. I need to change my life.

Got the flu between Xmas and New Years. Haven't even missed it yet (the booze; I definitely don't miss the flu).  Amazing how much better I'm sleeping.


Me, too (the booze, not the flu), mainly because I'm trying to drop a few pounds and one shot of whisky has about 100 calories. I was drinking multiple "nightcaps" regularly enough that it was getting to be a problem.

The effect on my sleep is profound, and it's nice not waking up hung over every day.

Of course, I'll probably fall off the wagon before January is over.
 
2018-01-03 12:15:11 PM  
It's peak desert camping/riding season here...fark that no-drinking noise.
 
2018-01-03 12:15:33 PM  
Is Trump still president?  then no.
 
2018-01-03 12:15:43 PM  
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2018-01-03 12:16:42 PM  
I haven't had a single drink yet this year.  I expect that to change around 7:30 tonight.
 
2018-01-03 12:16:56 PM  
I'm on a diet and wasn't going to drink anyway. *shrug*
 
2018-01-03 12:16:58 PM  

drayno76: Sure, this Jan. will be just as "dry" for me as the last 8 Januaries.

May roll an inception joint later today but I quit drinking in 2009.


I'm on about 4 1/2 years myself.  Don't miss it at all.
In fact, I'm not lethargic, my productivity is off the scale, I don't lose my temper, I don't have to worry about being too drunk late in the day to get stuff done, and my liver is much happier for it.  My health in general is better for it.

Not coming down on anyone who likes to drink.  That's up to you.  But for me, it was best to just cut it right the fark out of my life.
 
2018-01-03 12:17:33 PM  
I have done the month between my late October birthday and Thanksgiving the last 4 years.  I have been the Drunkle at dinner each year since my tolerance is shiate by then but I enjoy it.
 
2018-01-03 12:17:50 PM  
Fortunately, subby's mom is apparently participating in "dry" January. Ouch!!

Although she still drinks like a fish.
 
2018-01-03 12:18:50 PM  
Not drinking right now because I've gotten really fat and my body doesn't need the extra poison. Not a heavy drinker anyway, pretty much limit myself to good Scotch, and can take several months to kill a bottle.
 
2018-01-03 12:19:03 PM  

Mikey1969: Fortunately, subby's mom is apparently participating in "dry" January. Ouch!!

Although she still drinks like a fish.


*UN

UNfortunately...

Farking autocorrect. Killed my entire joke.
 
2018-01-03 12:19:24 PM  

ChipNASA: Erik_Emune: I'm giving it a try. Life turned increasingly crappy over the second half of 2017, and I found myself using alcohol to cope more than I really liked. The holidays saw the end of my good booze, anyway, and so it seems a good time to put the brakes on. We'll see.

Subby here.
After drinking mostly non stop daily for what seems like forever, and having pains in my sides and such (Liver? Kidneys? Pancreas? also from slipping and falling down on my side who knows)
I'm TWO WHOLE DAYS IN!!

We'll see how long it lasts.

I'll check back with you freaks for support.
(Yeah I did it before when I had a bar in my room in the dorm when I was in the Air Force, so it's possible.)

B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-uuttt I *like* drinking.

I'm going to go the lots of tonic and lime route and maybe non Alcoholic Beer (BUT WHY?!?!?)

2017 just sucked donkey dicks, got divorced after 2 years and $20,000 but I have custody of my kids, my house and all my retirement, so I got that going for me which is nice.

Single Sober Dad for 2018. Wish me luck.


Good luck and I hope 2018 is better for you.

I know what you mean. I don't drink because I have to, I drink because I want to. I truly enjoy a nice drink. I like the taste and the warm glow. Too bad it's so bad for me.

I think you might do better not trying for non-alcoholic substitutes. They'll just remind you of what you're missing. I'm drinking whatever non-alcoholic thing I'd usually drink, water and tea, mostly.
 
2018-01-03 12:19:30 PM  
Is this some sort of hipster bullsh*t? I've never heard of this until today.
 
2018-01-03 12:19:43 PM  

FormlessOne: Never mind the patronizing tone of the article, or the insistence that "it's an increasing trend" to convince you to do it - if you're drinking so much beer that you have to schedule a month off to "appreciate beer and not take it for granted", maybe changing your overall habits is in order.


This is the case with most pleasures in life. Constant stimulation means that you lose the enjoyment that comes with it. If you really want to enjoy a chocolate bar, for example, you should make a plan to eat it 3 months from now. Imagining how great the chocolate bar will taste as you deprive yourself day in and day out will ultimately bring you far more enjoyment than if you went to the store on a whim and bought a pile of chocolate bars that you ravage through in a matter of minutes this afternoon.

This book covers the subject pretty well (along with some other ways to spend money in a way that makes you happy instead of more miserable:)
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Personally, I like to go on a 'cleanse' routine once per quarter. No caffeine, no dairy, no alcohol, no red meat, no gluten, no processed foods, no sugar. It lasts two weeks, and while doing it I'm about as miserable as can be. But, at the same time, looking forward to it being over and how great all of those things will be at the end (gasp - cheddar cheese! mein gott - white bread! dios mio - beer!) makes me appreciate them that much more.

TLDR version, you don't have to be an addict to get into a rut. Nothing wrong with hitting the reset button now and again and getting out of your comfort zone.
 
2018-01-03 12:20:09 PM  

ChipNASA: After drinking mostly non stop daily for what seems like forever, and having pains in my sides and such (Liver? Kidneys? Pancreas? also from slipping and falling down on my side who knows)


I don't think sick or ill livers tend hurt. When you were a kid and ran too far and had a pain in the side, that was a result of the funny liver chemistry trying to get more energy but that didn't hurt where your liver is.

My favorite bar had their 9th anniversary on the 1st but will be closed for a few a while so the staff can have holidays. NYE broke my budget as well since I didn't need the bottle of Dom Perignon.
 
2018-01-03 12:21:13 PM  
Stop drinking? When its -15 everyday? HAHA, eat my sack drynuary dotards.
 
2018-01-03 12:21:22 PM  

Rapmaster2000: F that.  The playoffs just started.


And my Falcons snuck in there to boot!!
 
2018-01-03 12:21:27 PM  
That orange bastard is still POTUS, so no. Also, I really like good beer, so no.
But hey, I've only had one drink so far this year, so there.
 
2018-01-03 12:22:09 PM  

MrBallou: ChipNASA: Erik_Emune: I'm giving it a try. Life turned increasingly crappy over the second half of 2017, and I found myself using alcohol to cope more than I really liked. The holidays saw the end of my good booze, anyway, and so it seems a good time to put the brakes on. We'll see.

Subby here.
After drinking mostly non stop daily for what seems like forever, and having pains in my sides and such (Liver? Kidneys? Pancreas? also from slipping and falling down on my side who knows)
I'm TWO WHOLE DAYS IN!!

We'll see how long it lasts.

I'll check back with you freaks for support.
(Yeah I did it before when I had a bar in my room in the dorm when I was in the Air Force, so it's possible.)

B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-uuttt I *like* drinking.

I'm going to go the lots of tonic and lime route and maybe non Alcoholic Beer (BUT WHY?!?!?)

2017 just sucked donkey dicks, got divorced after 2 years and $20,000 but I have custody of my kids, my house and all my retirement, so I got that going for me which is nice.

Single Sober Dad for 2018. Wish me luck.

Good luck and I hope 2018 is better for you.

I know what you mean. I don't drink because I have to, I drink because I want to. I truly enjoy a nice drink. I like the taste and the warm glow. Too bad it's so bad for me.

I think you might do better not trying for non-alcoholic substitutes. They'll just remind you of what you're missing. I'm drinking whatever non-alcoholic thing I'd usually drink, water and tea, mostly.


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2018-01-03 12:22:35 PM  

make me some tea: I'm doing it.


me also... this is a trend?  Then I'm moving it to March.
 
2018-01-03 12:23:05 PM  
Yeah. Thanks, but no.
 
2018-01-03 12:23:20 PM  
Clean and sober for 72 hours and counting.
 
2018-01-03 12:23:24 PM  

ChipNASA: Erik_Emune: I'm giving it a try. Life turned increasingly crappy over the second half of 2017, and I found myself using alcohol to cope more than I really liked. The holidays saw the end of my good booze, anyway, and so it seems a good time to put the brakes on. We'll see.

Subby here.
After drinking mostly non stop daily for what seems like forever, and having pains in my sides and such (Liver? Kidneys? Pancreas? also from slipping and falling down on my side who knows)
I'm TWO WHOLE DAYS IN!!

We'll see how long it lasts.

I'll check back with you freaks for support.
(Yeah I did it before when I had a bar in my room in the dorm when I was in the Air Force, so it's possible.)

B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-uuttt I *like* drinking.

I'm going to go the lots of tonic and lime route and maybe non Alcoholic Beer (BUT WHY?!?!?)

2017 just sucked donkey dicks, got divorced after 2 years and $20,000 but I have custody of my kids, my house and all my retirement, so I got that going for me which is nice.

Single Sober Dad for 2018. Wish me luck.


Good luck
 
2018-01-03 12:26:18 PM  

Shaggy_C: Personally, I like to go on a 'cleanse' routine once per quarter. No caffeine...


The no caffeine can be tricky because it is physically addictive. I used to no be able to go mornings without headaches and then I had some test where I couldn't have any caffeine for like a week and that was bad. A few months later when I had the test because they lost the 1st results, I had no problem with quitting caffeine... except I was later than normal for everything before noon.
 
2018-01-03 12:27:28 PM  

blatz514: bikerbob59: No.

You meeting me for happy hour?


Damn straight!  Cheers!
 
2018-01-03 12:28:10 PM  

Mikey1969: Fortunately, subby's mom is apparently participating in "dry" January. Ouch!!

Although she still drinks stinks like a fish.


FTFY
 
2018-01-03 12:28:38 PM  
I have 13 duty weeks when I can't drink because of work this year. That's 25% of 2018 take care of already.
 
2018-01-03 12:29:10 PM  
I barely drink and even I'm wondering why. And especially why JANUARY of all times of year. Do it in farking April or something, when it's not so viciously cold and depressing out.

slackananda: If I can't quit for three months a year it's time to hang it up for good.


Erik_Emune: I found myself using alcohol to cope more than I really liked.


ChipNASA: After drinking mostly non stop daily for what seems like forever,


Oh. Er... I see! Sorry. Not judging! I just forget what a drinking culture we have (also sorry for sounding all SJW on this). I'm always a little taken aback by how often people talk about booze and how normal everyone thinks it is.

Good luck to all you guys. If ever you want to see someone mired in the most pathetic depths of withdrawal, challenge me to give up drinking cola for as long as you give up drinking alcohol. I will cry and whine and stamp my little feeties and probably fail. Y'all are farkin' superstars. <3
 
2018-01-03 12:29:33 PM  
FARK THAT.
 
2018-01-03 12:30:35 PM  

lordluzr: ChipNASA: Erik_Emune: I'm giving it a try. Life turned increasingly crappy over the second half of 2017, and I found myself using alcohol to cope more than I really liked. The holidays saw the end of my good booze, anyway, and so it seems a good time to put the brakes on. We'll see.

Subby here.
After drinking mostly non stop daily for what seems like forever, and having pains in my sides and such (Liver? Kidneys? Pancreas? also from slipping and falling down on my side who knows)
I'm TWO WHOLE DAYS IN!!

We'll see how long it lasts.

I'll check back with you freaks for support.
(Yeah I did it before when I had a bar in my room in the dorm when I was in the Air Force, so it's possible.)

B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-uuttt I *like* drinking.

I'm going to go the lots of tonic and lime route and maybe non Alcoholic Beer (BUT WHY?!?!?)

2017 just sucked donkey dicks, got divorced after 2 years and $20,000 but I have custody of my kids, my house and all my retirement, so I got that going for me which is nice.

Single Sober Dad for 2018. Wish me luck.

Good luck


DITTO!
 
2018-01-03 12:30:55 PM  
If people want to quit drinking for awhile, for what ever reason, more power to them; I hope they get what they need from the break.  Just don't force a stupid word for it on everyone else.
 
2018-01-03 12:34:38 PM  

quizzical: If people want to quit drinking for awhile, for what ever reason, more power to them; I hope they get what they need from the break.  Just don't force a stupid word for it on everyone else.


The war on booze has begun.
 
2018-01-03 12:34:55 PM  
Oops too late, didn't get the memo in time.
 
2018-01-03 12:36:51 PM  

IamAwake: Nick Nostril: That'd be me. I need to change my life.

Got the flu between Xmas and New Years. Haven't even missed it yet (the booze; I definitely don't miss the flu).  Amazing how much better I'm sleeping.

I'm confused - some time between 9 days ago and 2 days ago, you contracted an illness that lasts about 6 days and subsequently stopped drinking alcohol, which you've now quit for so long that you feel numerous nights of restful sleep can be attributed to not drinking?


Indeed. I have RLS something fierce. I've tried giving up different things for short periods trying to see if it was diet related (caffeine, sugar, booze) but nothing really seemed to help, at least in the short term. Haven't had anything to drink since Xmas day and haven't had RLS since (rarely would I go more than a day without it).

May not have found the culprit, but until it comes back, I can't say that I haven't.
 
2018-01-03 12:37:36 PM  

durbnpoisn: But for me, it was best to just cut it right the fark out of my life.


I just never liked it.  It felt like 'what I was supposed to do' as opposed to anything I wanted to do.  I watched three friends go from reasonably normal people to alcoholics over the course of about 4 - 5 years.  It started as drinks after work,  after about a year they weren't leaving the bar until well after midnight each night, unless their wives came and got them.

When I drank I didn't like the taste, especially beer or any hard booze, I opted for 'fru fru drinks' like a Mojito or Daiquiri.  When I got shiat for not drinking 'masculine' drinks from one of the guys I said "fark it, ya know what this shiat tastes like shiat and makes me feel like shiat, I'm out."
 
2018-01-03 12:42:26 PM  
For me, 'drunk' is the worst, most boring high. I dodged a bullet I guess bc my family is full of scary, violent alcoholics. They won't be participating in Dryanuary.
 
2018-01-03 12:44:14 PM  
I've done Dry January for the last 4 or 5 years. This year I'm doing a full 90 days. Like many others, I hit the throttle hard in 2017 (I wonder why). I had an uh-oh moment when I realized 4 shots of vodka had about as much effect as my annual sip of communion wine.

In the past, by the end of my 30 days I'd be seeing some tangible benefits. I'm much more mentally sharp, less irritable, physically stronger, no acid reflux flair ups, modest weight loss, better concentration at work etc. But by the time the benefits started to manifest themselves, the month would be over and I'd go right back to it.

So I'm going to try a full 90 this year. Maybe I'm ready to give it up for good. Just booze mind you, you'll have to pry my OG Kush out of my dead-from-natural-causes hands.

For anyone doing it for the first time, after the first couple days, you don't even think about it. That being said, TV isn't as good, video games aren't as fun, people are way more annoying, and you might come to find modern life interminably boring.
 
2018-01-03 12:44:39 PM  

Shaggy_C: Personally, I like to go on a 'cleanse' routine once per quarter. No caffeine, no dairy, no alcohol, no red meat, no gluten, no processed foods, no sugar. It lasts two weeks, and while doing it I'm about as miserable as can be. But, at the same time, looking forward to it being over and how great all of those things will be at the end (gasp - cheddar cheese! mein gott - white bread! dios mio - beer!) makes me appreciate them that much more.

TLDR version, you don't have to be an addict to get into a rut. Nothing wrong with hitting the reset button now and again and getting out of your comfort zone.


Counterpoint:
If you drink a good bit, every single day, and suddenly STOP doing it, without any warning, your body will go into crisis mode.  It will literally start shutting systems down.  This can kill you.

This is why it is a terrible, terrible idea to quit drinking cold turkey.  You have to wean yourself off of it.

The unfortunate reality to that is that most people cannot do that whole "weaning" thing.  They go a couple of days, and then are drinking as much as they did before.
The best and safest way to detox is to do it supervised.  Like in a hospital, hooked up to an IV.

Then, when everything is completely and safely out of your system, there is no danger of shocking it.

Having said that - I am not implying that your idea is a bad one - for you.
If the detox works for you, then that is truly awesome.  But it may not be the best advice for everyone.  Certainly not for someone who drinks like 6 or 7 drinks a day, every day.
 
2018-01-03 12:45:28 PM  

MOPAR BLUE: Rapmaster2000: F that.  The playoffs just started.

And my Falcons snuck in there to boot!!


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From the Carolina Panther Football Team.
 
2018-01-03 12:47:10 PM  
Subby: OK so everyone here participating in Dry January or "Drynuary"

"And that's when I shot him, your honor."
 
2018-01-03 12:53:00 PM  

durbnpoisn: Having said that - I am not implying that your idea is a bad one - for you.
If the detox works for you, then that is truly awesome.  But it may not be the best advice for everyone.  Certainly not for someone who drinks like 6 or 7 drinks a day, every day.


Well, I think we need to make a distinction between the 6 or 7 drinks a day type (which I think by most reasonable measures would be considered pretty extreme and indicate a real dependency) and the 1 or less a day type. So, I would revise my suggestion for a regular 'cleanse' to those who are not drinking every day, particularly not in excess every day. It's no different than how you wouldn't recommend a 400lb person to go on a 1500 calorie a day diet. Yes, it will work for a 150lb person, but it might kill the big person.

But, like anything, these always devolve into a slippery slope argument; who is to say someone's 10 a day on the weekends and bone dry during the week is any more or less of an issue than someone who is 6 or 7 a day every day versus someone who has 2 a day every day versus someone who is stone sober 29 days a month but has 20 drinks the night they do go out? Everyone needs to do what's best for themselves based on their own assessment of why, how often, and how much they drink in light of their long-term goals.
 
2018-01-03 12:54:46 PM  

ChipNASA: Erik_Emune: I'm giving it a try. Life turned increasingly crappy over the second half of 2017, and I found myself using alcohol to cope more than I really liked. The holidays saw the end of my good booze, anyway, and so it seems a good time to put the brakes on. We'll see.

Subby here.
After drinking mostly non stop daily for what seems like forever, and having pains in my sides and such (Liver? Kidneys? Pancreas? also from slipping and falling down on my side who knows)
I'm TWO WHOLE DAYS IN!!

We'll see how long it lasts.

I'll check back with you freaks for support.
(Yeah I did it before when I had a bar in my room in the dorm when I was in the Air Force, so it's possible.)

B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-uuttt I *like* drinking.

I'm going to go the lots of tonic and lime route and maybe non Alcoholic Beer (BUT WHY?!?!?)

2017 just sucked donkey dicks, got divorced after 2 years and $20,000 but I have custody of my kids, my house and all my retirement, so I got that going for me which is nice.

Single Sober Dad for 2018. Wish me luck.


Good luck, man.  Sounds like you're doing it for the right reasons.
 
2018-01-03 12:55:06 PM  
But waking up next to someone you don't know is still OK?
 
151
2018-01-03 12:57:28 PM  
Today is my 7th full day sober. After day 5 (starting when I woke up Monday morning), was when I no longer felt awful detox symptoms.

Now I feel farking great.

/Not because of some arbitrary month, just because I'm a raging alcoholic and it was either stop or die an agonizing death, either of them being in the very near future

So, cheers. Wish I could be the guy that could have "a couple drinks". I know I never will be. Congrats to you guys.
 
2018-01-03 12:57:58 PM  
I did this each of the last two Januarys.

It was hard for a couple weeks, then i got halfway and started counting the days down to what amounted to "monsoon February"

in the end i realized that the practice of moderation is a full time job, not just a one month a year thing.

I quit all alcohol on 12/4/17, going strong and feeling MUCH better.  Wallet likes me too.

i get melancholy sometimes when i think "i'll never have another drink" some times but i remember having those same feelings about both cigarettes and dip (which i've quit 19 years, and 4 years, respectively).  It gets better.

/still consumes cannabis
 
2018-01-03 01:00:56 PM  

151: Wish I could be the guy that could have "a couple drinks". I know I never will be.


Me neither. I can go sober or I can get hammered. That first drink flips a switch in my brain and unless I'm pressured to stop, I'll drink until I feel I've had enough.
 
2018-01-03 01:03:11 PM  
I'm more likely to participate in Febrewary.
 
151
2018-01-03 01:05:47 PM  

Magnanimous_J: 151: Wish I could be the guy that could have "a couple drinks". I know I never will be.

Me neither. I can go sober or I can get hammered. That first drink flips a switch in my brain and unless I'm pressured to stop, I'll drink until I feel I've had enough.


Yup. Except I'll only stop when I run out, and only then if it's after 2am and/or I cannot physically walk the mile or so to the store.

No such thing as "enough" for me.

But I digress. I feel great, I wake up when the clock says "am" now, I get shiat done before work, and on January 1st 2019 I'll have $5,000 to blow on whatever the hell I want, instead of literally pissing away >=$13.77 every. Single. Day.
 
2018-01-03 01:07:10 PM  

stuffy: But waking up next to someone you don't know is still OK?


shiat man, I've been married for almost 10 years and still do that every morning...
 
2018-01-03 01:08:02 PM  
I drank a bit in Mexico last spring when the owner of the company I work for was paying for some very good stuff. I had a few beers in summer. I'll probably have a couple more next summer. I frankly don't get any pleasure outta alcohol, but I like stuff that tastes nice.

Now, if I could only break this damned sugar addiction...
 
2018-01-03 01:08:31 PM  

durbnpoisn: Shaggy_C: Personally, I like to go on a 'cleanse' routine once per quarter. No caffeine, no dairy, no alcohol, no red meat, no gluten, no processed foods, no sugar. It lasts two weeks, and while doing it I'm about as miserable as can be. But, at the same time, looking forward to it being over and how great all of those things will be at the end (gasp - cheddar cheese! mein gott - white bread! dios mio - beer!) makes me appreciate them that much more.

TLDR version, you don't have to be an addict to get into a rut. Nothing wrong with hitting the reset button now and again and getting out of your comfort zone.

Counterpoint:
If you drink a good bit, every single day, and suddenly STOP doing it, without any warning, your body will go into crisis mode.  It will literally start shutting systems down.  This can kill you.

This is why it is a terrible, terrible idea to quit drinking cold turkey.  You have to wean yourself off of it.

The unfortunate reality to that is that most people cannot do that whole "weaning" thing.  They go a couple of days, and then are drinking as much as they did before.
The best and safest way to detox is to do it supervised.  Like in a hospital, hooked up to an IV.

Then, when everything is completely and safely out of your system, there is no danger of shocking it.

Having said that - I am not implying that your idea is a bad one - for you.
If the detox works for you, then that is truly awesome.  But it may not be the best advice for everyone.  Certainly not for someone who drinks like 6 or 7 drinks a day, every day.


Shaggy_C: durbnpoisn: Having said that - I am not implying that your idea is a bad one - for you.
If the detox works for you, then that is truly awesome.  But it may not be the best advice for everyone.  Certainly not for someone who drinks like 6 or 7 drinks a day, every day.

Well, I think we need to make a distinction between the 6 or 7 drinks a day type (which I think by most reasonable measures would be considered pretty extreme and indicate a real dependency) and the 1 or less a day type. So, I would revise my suggestion for a regular 'cleanse' to those who are not drinking every day, particularly not in excess every day. It's no different than how you wouldn't recommend a 400lb person to go on a 1500 calorie a day diet. Yes, it will work for a 150lb person, but it might kill the big person.

But, like anything, these always devolve into a slippery slope argument; who is to say someone's 10 a day on the weekends and bone dry during the week is any more or less of an issue than someone who is 6 or 7 a day every day versus someone who has 2 a day every day versus someone who is stone sober 29 days a month but has 20 drinks the night they do go out? Everyone needs to do what's best for themselves based on their own assessment of why, how often, and how much they drink in light of their long-term goals.


VERY good points.

I am on day 2 and I don't feel any effects I am concerned about, but yes, I've read exactly of which you speak.
I wasn't getting drunk per se, however I was getting a nice little buzz but having not the clearest memory of previous days evenings conversations. Not blackout at all but, foggy. It certainly was affecting my short term.
I bought some hard cider (6%) and wasn't going to drink it but I'll see how it goes. A young lady I know went through this, her husband found her on the floor naked and she'd probably drunk most of a 1/5 for the last time, she told me she coded out on the way and in the hospital, went to rehab and doesn't drink at all now.

I think my tolerance is pretty high but I'll have to watch myself over the coming days. I read that if you can get through 72 hours, then you're on the upswing.

I'm at work, no DTs, I did have a little night sweats and a little trouble getting back to sleep but I think I'm good.

Good Luck to all of us going forward.
 
2018-01-03 01:10:12 PM  
E pen loaded with blue dream: check.
Fifth of McNaughton: check.
Fuzzy plaid bathrobe: check.
Bean bag chair: check.
Music: check.
Kindle: check.
Video games: check.

All lights are green!
Operation three day weekend is a go!

WAIT! HOLD IT! ...WE'RE IN A HOLD PEOPLE!
What? What is it? ...An article about going dry for a month? GOD DAMN IT JERRY! YOU KNOW HOW MUCH YOU JUST COST US?! Get the hell out of here! I don't want to see you in this brain untill he's back at work! And you can bet your ass this will be on your review!
*presses eyes and sighs*
OK PEOPLE, WE'RE BACK ON IN 3..2...1...
ACTION!!!
 
2018-01-03 01:12:25 PM  
Um, no.  Alcohol is very much in order for the foreseeable future.
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2018-01-03 01:22:22 PM  

ChipNASA: VERY good points.

I am on day 2 and I don't feel any effects I am concerned about, but yes, I've read exactly of which you speak.
I wasn't getting drunk per se, however I was getting a nice little buzz but having not the clearest memory of previous days evenings conversations. Not blackout at all but, foggy. It certainly was affecting my short term.
I bought some hard cider (6%) and wasn't going to drink it but I'll see how it goes. A young lady I know went through this, her husband found her on the floor naked and she'd probably drunk most of a 1/5 for the last time, she told me she coded out on the way and in the hospital, went to rehab and doesn't drink at all now.

I think my tolerance is pretty high but I'll have to watch myself over the coming days. I read that if you can get through 72 hours, then you're on the upswing.

I'm at work, no DTs, I did have a little night sweats and a little trouble getting back to sleep but I think I'm good.

Good Luck to all of us going forward.


Yeah, well, I've actually been through this.  And, as you can tell from my post, I was of the type that was drinking excessively.  If you have any questions, feel free to reach out.

Been there.  Glad to have it far in my rear view.
 
2018-01-03 01:22:43 PM  
I banked some days over the holidays as I had family in and wanted to set an example.

DRINKS
12/21   0
12/22   0
12/23   0
12/24   1/2   (half a glass of champagne for a toast)
12/25   11   (okay, after 4 days with family, and today with in-laws, I blew my bank)
12/26-12/30  0
12/31-1/1   4  (over 8 hours)
1/2         0
1/3         ?
 
2018-01-03 01:26:53 PM  

durbnpoisn: Shaggy_C: Personally, I like to go on a 'cleanse' routine once per quarter. No caffeine, no dairy, no alcohol, no red meat, no gluten, no processed foods, no sugar. It lasts two weeks, and while doing it I'm about as miserable as can be. But, at the same time, looking forward to it being over and how great all of those things will be at the end (gasp - cheddar cheese! mein gott - white bread! dios mio - beer!) makes me appreciate them that much more.

TLDR version, you don't have to be an addict to get into a rut. Nothing wrong with hitting the reset button now and again and getting out of your comfort zone.

Counterpoint:
If you drink a good bit, every single day, and suddenly STOP doing it, without any warning, your body will go into crisis mode.  It will literally start shutting systems down.  This can kill you.


It's not so much shutting systems down as it is the nervous system, used to constantly battling a powerful depressant, goes farking apeshiat firing muscles wrongly and sometimes igniting a neural storm called a "seizure".  A bundle of fun which can be fatal.

The best and safest way to detox is to do it supervised.  Like in a hospital, hooked up to an IV.

I did that.  Went to the ER and got off surprisingly cheap (like $200 after insurance).  They gave me a followup scrip for Librium aka Chlordiazepoxide.  I never had a seizure, but was worried about it.  In later in-patient treatment, I witnessed a fellow alky just smoking his cigarette and chatting, suddenly stop talking, topple off the bench onto the ground in a seizure.  Scary shiat.  I learned from staff that you should turn a seizing person on their side so they don't choke on vomit.

Magnanimous_J: 151: Wish I could be the guy that could have "a couple drinks". I know I never will be.

Me neither. I can go sober or I can get hammered. That first drink flips a switch in my brain and unless I'm pressured to stop, I'll drink until I feel I've had enough.


Be very wary of alcohol.  I react the same way and usually "I've had enough" is when I "go to sleep" (pass out).  I've been in recovery for 2.5 years and totally alcohol free for 2 years.  I cannot resume drinking as I know can never be a normal drinker.

wutevr:
I quit all alcohol on 12/4/17...
i get melancholy sometimes when i think "i'll never have another drink" some times but i remember having those same feelings about both cigarettes and dip (which i've quit 19 years, and 4 years, respectively).  It gets better.


Here's my experience with that highlighted thought:  It kept me relapsing.  The thought of never drinking again was (is?) so monumental that I just had to get away with something *today* - because tomorrow I must be good.

I attend meetings of a certain, well-known, multi-step group and here is a valuable thing I learned there: I am not promising to not drink tomorrow - I'm just not worried about it.  I intend to not drink today which, especially after some sober time under my belt, seems a whole lot easier than forever.  Importantly, I do not *plan* to drink.  I'm not giving myself permission (even subconsciously, I hope) to drink again after some period of time (common periods are 6 months, a year, two years, five years), but I'm not obsessing over the future lack of drink.  Today?  Sober today is easy.
 
2018-01-03 01:27:13 PM  

Shaggy_C: durbnpoisn: Having said that - I am not implying that your idea is a bad one - for you.
If the detox works for you, then that is truly awesome.  But it may not be the best advice for everyone.  Certainly not for someone who drinks like 6 or 7 drinks a day, every day.

Well, I think we need to make a distinction between the 6 or 7 drinks a day type (which I think by most reasonable measures would be considered pretty extreme and indicate a real dependency) and the 1 or less a day type. So, I would revise my suggestion for a regular 'cleanse' to those who are not drinking every day, particularly not in excess every day. It's no different than how you wouldn't recommend a 400lb person to go on a 1500 calorie a day diet. Yes, it will work for a 150lb person, but it might kill the big person.

But, like anything, these always devolve into a slippery slope argument; who is to say someone's 10 a day on the weekends and bone dry during the week is any more or less of an issue than someone who is 6 or 7 a day every day versus someone who has 2 a day every day versus someone who is stone sober 29 days a month but has 20 drinks the night they do go out? Everyone needs to do what's best for themselves based on their own assessment of why, how often, and how much they drink in light of their long-term goals.


You are correct on all of this.  I cannot be the one to say what is too much for anyone else.  I only posted what I did to clarify that if you are a HEAVY drinker, trying to detox without supervision is dangerous.

For the record, when I say "6 or 7 a day", each one of those single drinks is the equivalent of a glass of wine, or a beer, or a little shooter of vodka.  Regardless of size, each of those are the same (same enough).  And, I was up to about 4 or 5 glasses of wine and 2 or 3 shooters, at my worst.  Every day.  So, yes, my drinking was excessive.
 
2018-01-03 01:39:17 PM  
January is like the only month I drink vodka regularly, and goddamnit that's not gonna change.

/ couldn't have a drinking problem if I wanted one
// go through a bottle of vodka about every three years
///yes, it's in the freezer
 
2018-01-03 01:46:24 PM  

durbnpoisn: ChipNASA: VERY good points.

I am on day 2 and I don't feel any effects I am concerned about, but yes, I've read exactly of which you speak.
I wasn't getting drunk per se, however I was getting a nice little buzz but having not the clearest memory of previous days evenings conversations. Not blackout at all but, foggy. It certainly was affecting my short term.
I bought some hard cider (6%) and wasn't going to drink it but I'll see how it goes. A young lady I know went through this, her husband found her on the floor naked and she'd probably drunk most of a 1/5 for the last time, she told me she coded out on the way and in the hospital, went to rehab and doesn't drink at all now.

I think my tolerance is pretty high but I'll have to watch myself over the coming days. I read that if you can get through 72 hours, then you're on the upswing.

I'm at work, no DTs, I did have a little night sweats and a little trouble getting back to sleep but I think I'm good.

Good Luck to all of us going forward.

Yeah, well, I've actually been through this.  And, as you can tell from my post, I was of the type that was drinking excessively.  If you have any questions, feel free to reach out.

Been there.  Glad to have it far in my rear view.


Good for you. After drinking (& other things) daily for 40 years I checked myself into a 6 month rehab program last year. Its still tuff sometimes. I REALLY enjoy the booze but All it wants is to kill me.
 
2018-01-03 01:54:02 PM  

DragonIV: January is like the only Every month I drink vodka regularly, and goddamnit that's not gonna change.

/ couldn't have a drinking problem if I wanted one
// go through a bottle of vodka about every three years four to 5 days days
///yes, it's in the freezer
////I welcome to FAARK
//FTFM
//I still have my slashies.

 
2018-01-03 02:00:33 PM  
I'm doing it this year, I also did no-drink November that lasted until the xmas season.

I found it kickstarted my weight loss and I overall felt better despite only drinking one day a week as a treat.
 
2018-01-03 02:02:05 PM  
I'd just like to reiterate what has been noted in other comments above - if you are a heavy drinker it is a very bad idea to quit cold turkey. Seek medical help. If you won't do that, gradually decrease your drinking over the course of days, eat and drink as much as you can and take vitamins. I am old and have lots of experience with this (clearly I am not alone here) but kids in their early twenties who haven't thought much about their heavy consumption could put themselves into real danger without realizing it. If you drink two beers a night you can completely disregard this advice.
 
2018-01-03 02:04:46 PM  
I guess I don't have a drinking problem, because I don't have much of the side effects your all talking about.
 
2018-01-03 02:08:51 PM  

American-Irish eyes: I guess I don't have a drinking problem, because I don't have much of the side effects you're all talking about.


Try again sport.

/drunk-like typing detected.
 
2018-01-03 02:10:34 PM  
I was actually considering taking up alcoholism this year. It's a change from my usual, failed, healthy new year's resolutions and not that big a deal if I don't keep it. Depending on how it goes, I make take up crack next year.
 
2018-01-03 02:17:46 PM  
I'm doubling down and quitting the 2-pack a day Camel light habit along with the beer. I did the math the other day and it works out to about $950/month.
I wish everyone luck. One day at a time.
 
2018-01-03 02:28:30 PM  

mr_larry: I'm doubling down and quitting the 2-pack a day Camel light habit along with the beer. I did the math the other day and it works out to about $950/month.
I wish everyone luck. One day at a time.


Best of luck! My brother struggled to quit but was finally able to with the help of Chantix. It's made a tremendous difference in his health and budget.
 
2018-01-03 02:28:54 PM  

phaseolus: I drank a bit in Mexico last spring when the owner of the company I work for was paying for some very good stuff. I had a few beers in summer. I'll probably have a couple more next summer. I frankly don't get any pleasure outta alcohol, but I like stuff that tastes nice.

Now, if I could only break this damned sugar addiction...


I totally recommend the Cracked videos (I can see that WTF look you're giving me right now) for honest ads. Specifically the ones for energy drinks and cola. The skeezy leer he gives you as he points out you're physically addicted to sugar is helping me out a little.
 
2018-01-03 02:31:27 PM  
Here is the best tool to quit smoking. It has the highest rate of success. It explains the nicotine addiction. I read this a few years ago about 5 pages at a time. I'm re-reading it right now.
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2018-01-03 02:49:09 PM  

FormlessOne: ...why?

Never mind the patronizing tone of the article, or the insistence that "it's an increasing trend" to convince you to do it - if you're drinking so much beer that you have to schedule a month off to "appreciate beer and not take it for granted", maybe changing your overall habits is in order. If you're drinking so much booze that you not only have to schedule a month off to "improve your health," but have to drink camouflaged beverages so that your drinking buddies don't realize that you're not drinking, maybe you need to figure out the definition of the word, "moderation", and how it should apply to you.

See, this whole "I took some time off to prove that I wasn't an alcoholic" bit is what alcoholics do to deny the simple fact that they're alcoholics. "Look - I've got self control! Now, back to the booze!"


that's exactly correct.  two of my neighbors go on a 30-day reverse binge each year.  I just laugh at them and say that's proof that you drink too much - and you know it.  The other 335 days in the year I see one or the other heading to the others house for 3 hours of drinking.
 
2018-01-03 03:06:07 PM  
I had a heart attack a few years back. Last year I went to the cardiologist for my annual follow-up.

C: How much do you drink?

Me: I go a week or two without drinking, then maybe one or two a day, then dry again. It's not something I plan; I just don't like to play video games buzzed and I really like playing video games.

C: You should drink more.

Me: Okay.

Turns out they recommend moderate alcohol consumption, for me, for anti-blood-clotting reasons. I could quit drinking entirely (not going to happen) and I definitely need to stop the kind of binge drinking that leads me to play high-stakes blackjack in Vegas and lose $5000 (I won it all back when I sobered up), but I really should try to at least have a scotch a day.

Put like that, it sounds like it should be easy, but when I'm just sitting around at home I don't usually think, "I guess I'll pour myself a Bunnahabhain now." I'm more of a social drinker, but this is mitigated by the fact that I'm an antisocial introvert. Also I'm on a weight-loss kick - not because of any resolutions; this has been a thing for me for months.

So no dry January for me - though I haven't had a drop since NYE. Guess I'll break out the Bunnahabhain tonight.
 
2018-01-03 03:14:35 PM  
Good Luck, everyone!

Coming up on 11 months. Before this, every few years I'd quit for a month and--not being physically addicted--it was always easy: but it was serving a short sentence kind of easy. On the day after one month, I'd have a drink in my hand early and often. There was never any thought of extending it. I've needed a different mindset to quit and stay quit. Your mileage will vary, though, as we all seem to go about our addictions in different ways and means.
 
2018-01-03 03:18:29 PM  

Lipspinach: Good for you. After drinking (& other things) daily for 40 years I checked myself into a 6 month rehab program last year. Its still tuff sometimes. I REALLY enjoy the booze but All it wants is to kill me.


I'm having an easy time of it.  I don't miss it.  I don't miss how it made me feel.  I'm super happy to have that monkey off my back, to use an old metaphor.

Perhaps I should consider myself very lucky.  Because I hear many stories like yours.  And that's got to be pretty goddam hard.
 
2018-01-03 03:25:55 PM  

durbnpoisn: Lipspinach: Good for you. After drinking (& other things) daily for 40 years I checked myself into a 6 month rehab program last year. Its still tuff sometimes. I REALLY enjoy the booze but All it wants is to kill me.

I'm having an easy time of it.  I don't miss it.  I don't miss how it made me feel.  I'm super happy to have that monkey off my back, to use an old metaphor.

Perhaps I should consider myself very lucky.  Because I hear many stories like yours.  And that's got to be pretty goddam hard.


I *just* got through telling my boss, who is aware of my condition, that I'd rather not travel to a customer site in Mexico by myself next week.  It's not just that the hotel has a social hour most nights with free beer, rum and tequila, but anxiety too.  Anxiety that I might drink and anxiety that I might get anxiety about getting anxiety about... something, probably drinking.
 
2018-01-03 03:26:28 PM  
I guess I should point out that I never have anxiety while drunk.
 
2018-01-03 03:27:27 PM  

ChipNASA: Erik_Emune: I'm giving it a try. Life turned increasingly crappy over the second half of 2017, and I found myself using alcohol to cope more than I really liked. The holidays saw the end of my good booze, anyway, and so it seems a good time to put the brakes on. We'll see.

Subby here.
After drinking mostly non stop daily for what seems like forever, and having pains in my sides and such (Liver? Kidneys? Pancreas? also from slipping and falling down on my side who knows)
I'm TWO WHOLE DAYS IN!!

We'll see how long it lasts.

I'll check back with you freaks for support.
(Yeah I did it before when I had a bar in my room in the dorm when I was in the Air Force, so it's possible.)

B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-uuttt I *like* drinking.

I'm going to go the lots of tonic and lime route and maybe non Alcoholic Beer (BUT WHY?!?!?)

2017 just sucked donkey dicks, got divorced after 2 years and $20,000 but I have custody of my kids, my house and all my retirement, so I got that going for me which is nice.

Single Sober Dad for 2018. Wish me luck.


Good luck. Try not to focus on quitting because all you'll be able to think about then is a nice strong drink. I used to be a massive alcoholic as opposed to these days I'm just an average alcoholic. When I first quit I made a point of drinking four litres of water a day, to wash out toxins and just to be so full of liquid booze lost its appeal a bit.
Make a list of reasons you want to quit and keep it with you. I respect you for making such a tough decision.
 
2018-01-03 03:27:43 PM  

durbnpoisn: Shaggy_C: Personally, I like to go on a 'cleanse' routine once per quarter. No caffeine, no dairy, no alcohol, no red meat, no gluten, no processed foods, no sugar. It lasts two weeks, and while doing it I'm about as miserable as can be. But, at the same time, looking forward to it being over and how great all of those things will be at the end (gasp - cheddar cheese! mein gott - white bread! dios mio - beer!) makes me appreciate them that much more.

TLDR version, you don't have to be an addict to get into a rut. Nothing wrong with hitting the reset button now and again and getting out of your comfort zone.

Counterpoint:
If you drink a good bit, every single day, and suddenly STOP doing it, without any warning, your body will go into crisis mode.  It will literally start shutting systems down.  This can kill you.

This is why it is a terrible, terrible idea to quit drinking cold turkey.  You have to wean yourself off of it.

The unfortunate reality to that is that most people cannot do that whole "weaning" thing.  They go a couple of days, and then are drinking as much as they did before.
The best and safest way to detox is to do it supervised.  Like in a hospital, hooked up to an IV.

Then, when everything is completely and safely out of your system, there is no danger of shocking it.

Having said that - I am not implying that your idea is a bad one - for you.
If the detox works for you, then that is truly awesome.  But it may not be the best advice for everyone.  Certainly not for someone who drinks like 6 or 7 drinks a day, every day.


You'd have to be getting pretty blitzed every day for at least a week to get to this point. If you're only having 5 to 8 drinks a day for awhile, you may get the shakes (I have) but your body won't go into crisis mode unless you develop a VERY VERY strong physical dependence.

That being said, i'm not a doctor and if you feel you have a problem, then seek help to get yourself to quit and heed that person's advice. Weening can help but you have to basically half your amount daily until you're not catching a buzz and then stop. Good luck.
 
2018-01-03 03:35:43 PM  

ChipNASA: Erik_Emune: I'm giving it a try. Life turned increasingly crappy over the second half of 2017, and I found myself using alcohol to cope more than I really liked. The holidays saw the end of my good booze, anyway, and so it seems a good time to put the brakes on. We'll see.

Subby here.
After drinking mostly non stop daily for what seems like forever, and having pains in my sides and such (Liver? Kidneys? Pancreas? also from slipping and falling down on my side who knows)
I'm TWO WHOLE DAYS IN!!

We'll see how long it lasts.

I'll check back with you freaks for support.
(Yeah I did it before when I had a bar in my room in the dorm when I was in the Air Force, so it's possible.)

B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-uuttt I *like* drinking.

I'm going to go the lots of tonic and lime route and maybe non Alcoholic Beer (BUT WHY?!?!?)

2017 just sucked donkey dicks, got divorced after 2 years and $20,000 but I have custody of my kids, my house and all my retirement, so I got that going for me which is nice.

Single Sober Dad for 2018. Wish me luck.


Keep yourself super busy and avoid drama and triggers.  Start some new hobbies, exercise and/or sleep a lot.  Find lots of fun, non alcoholic things to drink and keep your hands and mouth busy - I considered taking up herbal vaping (not nicotine or pot).  I drank the same way you did until forced into quitting and out patient treatment by a court order - it was that or jail.  No alcohol for three months now, wish I had done it sooner because it wasn't that hard physically, and though uncomfortable, it was doable mentally/emotionally.  The liver/kidney/pancreas pains went away and I sleep, eat and overall feel better.

The pee tests end this month and I'll be free to drink again if I choose.  I don't miss it 95% of the time, but every once in awhile that old voice whispers in my ear that now that I'm not dependent on the substance, I can go back to drinking but only in moderation this time.
 
2018-01-03 03:38:14 PM  

Madman drummers bummers: I had a heart attack a few years back. Last year I went to the cardiologist for my annual follow-up.

C: How much do you drink?

Me: I go a week or two without drinking, then maybe one or two a day, then dry again. It's not something I plan; I just don't like to play video games buzzed and I really like playing video games.

C: You should drink more.

Me: Okay.

Turns out they recommend moderate alcohol consumption, for me, for anti-blood-clotting reasons.


That seems like really iffy advise for a Doc to be giving, though it seems he probed to make sure you weren't an alcoholic already.  He should really be telling you to take Plavix or a new-fangled "blood thinner" like Eliquis, but thinks you and your insurance company will balk.

Plavix is pricey but Eliquis is patented and costs close to a grand a month, which MediCare is obligated to pay in-full.  In my case, my insurance pays whatever it pays and I have additional "free insurance" from the makers of Eliquis such that I pay nothing for it.

In your case, I recommend asking your Doc (or a another Doc) about Plavix and similar meds.

/I am not a Doctor but I do make a lot of their boat payments
 
2018-01-03 03:47:22 PM  

hammettman: I banked some days over the holidays as I had family in and wanted to set an example.


I followed a similar curve:

DRINKS
12/21   6
12/22   5
12/23   8 (family arrives)
12/24   I can't remember
12/25   who's counting?
12/26-12/30  I can't add all that together (I'm told family returned to their homes during that time)
12/31-1/1   0
1/2         0
1/3         (forecasting possibly two)
 
2018-01-03 03:59:26 PM  

Magnanimous_J: For anyone doing it for the first time, after the first couple days, you don't even think about it. That being said, TV isn't as good, video games aren't as fun, people are way more annoying, and you might come to find modern life interminably boring.


You gotta stick around for the "Pink Cloud", or the sobriety high.  Hit me after about six weeks and life became awesome - still is.  I've read that the Pink Cloud is temporary though, so you're supposed to learn new techniques to enjoy life without alcohol.  Instead of fantasizing about the new you drinking small amounts of quality, expensive wine instead of rotgutsky vodka by the 1.75 liter.
 
2018-01-03 04:10:41 PM  

Mukster: Clean and sober for 72 hours and counting.


keep it up.  I've been sober two years now and I was pretty bad off.  The only solution that has worked for me is to not take the first drink.  If I could drink moderately, I would, but that's never really worked for long.
 
2018-01-03 04:11:20 PM  

Beltway Bandito: ChipNASA: Erik_Emune: I'm giving it a try. Life turned increasingly crappy over the second half of 2017, and I found myself using alcohol to cope more than I really liked. The holidays saw the end of my good booze, anyway, and so it seems a good time to put the brakes on. We'll see.

Subby here.
After drinking mostly non stop daily for what seems like forever, and having pains in my sides and such (Liver? Kidneys? Pancreas? also from slipping and falling down on my side who knows)
I'm TWO WHOLE DAYS IN!!

We'll see how long it lasts.

I'll check back with you freaks for support.
(Yeah I did it before when I had a bar in my room in the dorm when I was in the Air Force, so it's possible.)

B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-uuttt I *like* drinking.

I'm going to go the lots of tonic and lime route and maybe non Alcoholic Beer (BUT WHY?!?!?)

2017 just sucked donkey dicks, got divorced after 2 years and $20,000 but I have custody of my kids, my house and all my retirement, so I got that going for me which is nice.

Single Sober Dad for 2018. Wish me luck.

Keep yourself super busy and avoid drama and triggers.  Start some new hobbies, exercise and/or sleep a lot.  Find lots of fun, non alcoholic things to drink and keep your hands and mouth busy - I considered taking up herbal vaping (not nicotine or pot).  I drank the same way you did until forced into quitting and out patient treatment by a court order - it was that or jail.  No alcohol for three months now, wish I had done it sooner because it wasn't that hard physically, and though uncomfortable, it was doable mentally/emotionally.  The liver/kidney/pancreas pains went away and I sleep, eat and overall feel better.

The pee tests end this month and I'll be free to drink again if I choose.  I don't miss it 95% of the time, but every once in awhile that old voice whispers in my ear that now that I'm not dependent on the substance, I can go back to drinking but only in moderation this time.


This.  The bolded part.

I taught myself how to code Android apps, and started doing massive amounts of work on my website.
It gave me something new to do that got me thinking about other shiat on a near constant basis.  I also discovered that fruit juice has enough sugar to compensate for lack of sugary alcohol.  I'm particularly fond of the Tropicana varieties...

My business earned a bunch of extra money last year, and much of it was from ad revenue from Android apps.

I wouldn't have any of that if I was drunk the whole time.
 
2018-01-03 04:32:48 PM  

durbnpoisn: I also discovered that fruit juice has enough sugar to compensate for lack of sugary alcohol.  I'm particularly fond of the Tropicana varieties...


The onset of an insatiable sugar tooth was a surprise...I haven't liked sweet things for years, always prefered savory and Atkins-South Beach Diet type foods.  Now, I crave sugar everyday.  I eat candy, ice cream, lots of sweetener in tea and coffee.  Now I'm worried about diabeetus!
 
2018-01-03 04:48:06 PM  

Beltway Bandito: durbnpoisn: I also discovered that fruit juice has enough sugar to compensate for lack of sugary alcohol.  I'm particularly fond of the Tropicana varieties...

The onset of an insatiable sugar tooth was a surprise...I haven't liked sweet things for years, always prefered savory and Atkins-South Beach Diet type foods.  Now, I crave sugar everyday.  I eat candy, ice cream, lots of sweetener in tea and coffee.  Now I'm worried about diabeetus!


Haha...  Me too.  When I brought this up to my doctor, I was like, "Doc, I'm eating ice cream like a madman."
"Well, your body is craving all that missing sugar.  Just go with it.  It's not bad for you."
"What about diabetes?"
"Your metabolism is burning that stuff off before it will become a problem.  Just don't go nuts with it."
 
2018-01-03 05:25:06 PM  
2 drinks a day is "dry", right?

Yay, Dryuary!
 
2018-01-03 05:49:20 PM  
What is with this protestant crazy shiat? No Drinking January, No Jerking November, what else. The puritans are strong with this.
 
2018-01-03 06:01:18 PM  

daddio: What is with this protestant crazy shiat? No Drinking January, No Jerking November, what else. The puritans are strong with this.


I'm more thinking shriveled up livers and throbbing heads after NYE.
 
2018-01-03 07:39:44 PM  
My birthday is in January, so no. That's not going to happen.
 
2018-01-03 07:54:40 PM  
Nobody likes a filthy quitter.

Go bathe, losers.
 
2018-01-03 09:31:24 PM  

ChipNASA: Erik_Emune: I'm giving it a try. Life turned increasingly crappy over the second half of 2017, and I found myself using alcohol to cope more than I really liked. The holidays saw the end of my good booze, anyway, and so it seems a good time to put the brakes on. We'll see.

Subby here.
After drinking mostly non stop daily for what seems like forever, and having pains in my sides and such (Liver? Kidneys? Pancreas? also from slipping and falling down on my side who knows)
I'm TWO WHOLE DAYS IN!!

We'll see how long it lasts.

I'll check back with you freaks for support.
(Yeah I did it before when I had a bar in my room in the dorm when I was in the Air Force, so it's possible.)

B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-uuttt I *like* drinking.

I'm going to go the lots of tonic and lime route and maybe non Alcoholic Beer (BUT WHY?!?!?)

2017 just sucked donkey dicks, got divorced after 2 years and $20,000 but I have custody of my kids, my house and all my retirement, so I got that going for me which is nice.

Single Sober Dad for 2018. Wish me luck.


Good luck!
Youtube kQ_ZgpxZDiI
 
2018-01-03 09:47:05 PM  
Take your moralizing tochis for a long walk across a short pier.

I come from a LOOOONG line of alcoholics. Some of them moderately productive and successful, most turned into abusive asshats whose livers turned on them in self defense. There isn't a damn argument that folks can make that I haven't thought of already. I work in an industry where chefs are often the victims of their own excesses.

I drink in moderation, and NO, that's NOT the name of the restaurant I work at, though it IS perhaps the name of a joint I might open one day. I drink with a keen eye on my own behavior, and I listen to those around me, as well as my doctors, and thus far...I think I can handle myself without falling into Demon Rum and the fearful lack of control that some folks fear because they want to moralize on OTHER peoples' behavior, because they can't handle themselves.

You want to do this? Fine. Prove to yourself that you can handle it. If you have to prove to yourself that you can "handle" not drinking, then you may indeed have a problem. But it's less about the booze than some deeper issues...
 
2018-01-03 10:20:08 PM  

hubiestubert: Take your moralizing tochis for a long walk across a short pier.

I come from a LOOOONG line of alcoholics. Some of them moderately productive and successful, most turned into abusive asshats whose livers turned on them in self defense. There isn't a damn argument that folks can make that I haven't thought of already. I work in an industry where chefs are often the victims of their own excesses.

I drink in moderation, and NO, that's NOT the name of the restaurant I work at, though it IS perhaps the name of a joint I might open one day. I drink with a keen eye on my own behavior, and I listen to those around me, as well as my doctors, and thus far...I think I can handle myself without falling into Demon Rum and the fearful lack of control that some folks fear because they want to moralize on OTHER peoples' behavior, because they can't handle themselves.

You want to do this? Fine. Prove to yourself that you can handle it. If you have to prove to yourself that you can "handle" not drinking, then you may indeed have a problem. But it's less about the booze than some deeper issues...


Easy there, tiger.  Some people play these games because they're afraid, others just out of boredom.

Most people in recovery don't go out and proselytize or rail against the evils of [substance], because they know it does no good.  It's better to be quietly ready to embrace when someone does come asking for help.
 
2018-01-03 10:25:47 PM  

SansNeural: Most people in recovery don't go out and proselytize or rail against the evils of [substance], because they know it does no good.  It's better to be quietly ready to embrace when someone does come asking for help.


You have to remember, that I grew up in the South. MOST of the folks who railed against Demon Drink when I was young were either teetotalers or closet alcoholics, and preached mainly to make themselves feel better. BOTH are sh*tty ways to preach to folks who might have issues. And both make me tetchy...because their disingenuous and NOT about saving anyone, but about making other people feel bad, and that does nothing to make anything in this sorry old world better...
 
2018-01-04 12:15:41 AM  

make me some tea: I'm doing it.


Me too. A few of my buddies and I do it every year. It's nice to clear the cobwebs...
 
2018-01-04 01:01:03 AM  
Nothing but dry martinis for a whole month?

Itll be tough but hey its for charity right?

//didnt RTFA
 
2018-01-04 07:46:13 AM  

hubiestubert: Take your moralizing tochis for a long walk across a short pier.

I come from a LOOOONG line of alcoholics. Some of them moderately productive and successful, most turned into abusive asshats whose livers turned on them in self defense. There isn't a damn argument that folks can make that I haven't thought of already. I work in an industry where chefs are often the victims of their own excesses.

I drink in moderation, and NO, that's NOT the name of the restaurant I work at, though it IS perhaps the name of a joint I might open one day. I drink with a keen eye on my own behavior, and I listen to those around me, as well as my doctors, and thus far...I think I can handle myself without falling into Demon Rum and the fearful lack of control that some folks fear because they want to moralize on OTHER peoples' behavior, because they can't handle themselves.

You want to do this? Fine. Prove to yourself that you can handle it. If you have to prove to yourself that you can "handle" not drinking, then you may indeed have a problem. But it's less about the booze than some deeper issues...


Speaking as one of the people who has been vocal about being a non-drinker nowadays, I know for a fact that I did not once, in this thread, or anywhere else, condemn anyone for their behavior. Or for their wanting to drink, or any of the other things of which you have accused us.

I have been very careful to take a "live and let live" stance on the whole thing.  I have not "moralized".  I have not "demonized".  I haven't passed judgement on anyone for what they do (not about this).  But when one person here says out loud that they want help, I will be there to give words of encouragement.

I don't know what you think you're doing.  But other than bragging about how well you have things under control, and being really condescending, I don't see that you've accomplished anything here.
 
2018-01-04 08:07:17 AM  

durbnpoisn: hubiestubert: Take your moralizing tochis for a long walk across a short pier.

I come from a LOOOONG line of alcoholics. Some of them moderately productive and successful, most turned into abusive asshats whose livers turned on them in self defense. There isn't a damn argument that folks can make that I haven't thought of already. I work in an industry where chefs are often the victims of their own excesses.

I drink in moderation, and NO, that's NOT the name of the restaurant I work at, though it IS perhaps the name of a joint I might open one day. I drink with a keen eye on my own behavior, and I listen to those around me, as well as my doctors, and thus far...I think I can handle myself without falling into Demon Rum and the fearful lack of control that some folks fear because they want to moralize on OTHER peoples' behavior, because they can't handle themselves.

You want to do this? Fine. Prove to yourself that you can handle it. If you have to prove to yourself that you can "handle" not drinking, then you may indeed have a problem. But it's less about the booze than some deeper issues...

Speaking as one of the people who has been vocal about being a non-drinker nowadays, I know for a fact that I did not once, in this thread, or anywhere else, condemn anyone for their behavior. Or for their wanting to drink, or any of the other things of which you have accused us.

I have been very careful to take a "live and let live" stance on the whole thing.  I have not "moralized".  I have not "demonized".  I haven't passed judgement on anyone for what they do (not about this).  But when one person here says out loud that they want help, I will be there to give words of encouragement.

I don't know what you think you're doing.  But other than bragging about how well you have things under control, and being really condescending, I don't see that you've accomplished anything here.


That you thought I was addressing you, as opposed to TFA, and got your danders up maybe says a bit more than you realize.
 
2018-01-04 08:42:04 AM  

hubiestubert: That you thought I was addressing you, as opposed to TFA, and got your danders up maybe says a bit more than you realize.


I figured out you were referring to the article, but it took me a couple of reads to be sure.  It did sound flamey from the start.
 
2018-01-04 10:16:27 AM  
Kramer - I'm Out!
Youtube zDWU2SR27g4
 
2018-01-04 10:57:46 AM  

hubiestubert: durbnpoisn: hubiestubert: Take your moralizing tochis for a long walk across a short pier.

I come from a LOOOONG line of alcoholics. Some of them moderately productive and successful, most turned into abusive asshats whose livers turned on them in self defense. There isn't a damn argument that folks can make that I haven't thought of already. I work in an industry where chefs are often the victims of their own excesses.

I drink in moderation, and NO, that's NOT the name of the restaurant I work at, though it IS perhaps the name of a joint I might open one day. I drink with a keen eye on my own behavior, and I listen to those around me, as well as my doctors, and thus far...I think I can handle myself without falling into Demon Rum and the fearful lack of control that some folks fear because they want to moralize on OTHER peoples' behavior, because they can't handle themselves.

You want to do this? Fine. Prove to yourself that you can handle it. If you have to prove to yourself that you can "handle" not drinking, then you may indeed have a problem. But it's less about the booze than some deeper issues...

Speaking as one of the people who has been vocal about being a non-drinker nowadays, I know for a fact that I did not once, in this thread, or anywhere else, condemn anyone for their behavior. Or for their wanting to drink, or any of the other things of which you have accused us.

I have been very careful to take a "live and let live" stance on the whole thing.  I have not "moralized".  I have not "demonized".  I haven't passed judgement on anyone for what they do (not about this).  But when one person here says out loud that they want help, I will be there to give words of encouragement.

I don't know what you think you're doing.  But other than bragging about how well you have things under control, and being really condescending, I don't see that you've accomplished anything here.

That you thought I was addressing you, as opposed to TFA, and got your danders u ...


There has been a pretty good discussions going on, and I thought you were addressing it directly.  Not just me, the entire discussion.

I wasn't exactly trying to make it about me.  The tone of your post did not seem to be directed at TFA.
 
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