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2018-01-02 04:49:33 PM  
While it's good to see more people engage in the political process at all levels of government I think it's going to take years to undo the damage the right has done to the country. The left has a bad habit of getting complacent after they get big wins.
 
2018-01-02 05:08:57 PM  

sammyk: The left has a bad habit of getting complacent after they get big wins.


And generally ignoring races other than the "big ones" - Fed and state congressional races.  The Rs started taking over the lower levels and worked their way up.
 
2018-01-02 06:00:31 PM  
We're doomed.
 
2018-01-02 06:48:21 PM  
I don't think we're 'doomed', but I think that...
mass shootings will continue to become more commonplace and normalized
AI is going to be much more disruptive than people will be ready for
Top earners will continue to earn more, concentrating wealth
 
2018-01-02 06:55:41 PM  

Munden: I don't think we're 'doomed', but I think that...
mass shootings will continue to become more commonplace and normalized
AI is going to be much more disruptive than people will be ready for
Top earners will continue to earn more, concentrating wealth


The term "disruptive" is stupid too.
 
2018-01-02 07:45:49 PM  

sammyk: While it's good to see more people engage in the political process at all levels of government I think it's going to take years to undo the damage the right has done to the country. The left has a bad habit of getting complacent after they get big wins.


The Dem party has a bad habit of not churning out enough policy deliverables in return for the votes it gets, compared to how the GOP's voters get paid off.

They need to quit being such pushovers and knock off the "oh hey look at us being such nice boys and girls as we keep working with the other side of the aisle that has zero interest in making legitimate compromises"
 
2018-01-02 09:09:21 PM  

gameshowhost: sammyk: While it's good to see more people engage in the political process at all levels of government I think it's going to take years to undo the damage the right has done to the country. The left has a bad habit of getting complacent after they get big wins.

The Dem party has a bad habit of not churning out enough policy deliverables in return for the votes it gets, compared to how the GOP's voters get paid off.

They need to quit being such pushovers and knock off the "oh hey look at us being such nice boys and girls as we keep working with the other side of the aisle that has zero interest in making legitimate compromises"


QFT.

People only appreciate bipartisanship in theory. Nobody actually likes it in practice.
 
2018-01-02 09:11:14 PM  

gameshowhost: The Dem party


Stop eating paint chips.
 
2018-01-02 09:18:56 PM  

Voiceofreason01: gameshowhost: The Dem party

Stop eating paint chips.


I've asked them to stop, repeatedly.
 
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2018-01-02 10:16:29 PM  

Munden: I don't think we're 'doomed', but I think that...
mass shootings will continue to become more commonplace and normalized
AI is going to be much more disruptive than people will be ready for
Top earners will continue to earn more, concentrating wealth


In other words, doomed.
 
2018-01-02 10:45:35 PM  

sammyk: While it's good to see more people engage in the political process at all levels of government I think it's going to take years to undo the damage the right has done to the country. The left has a bad habit of getting complacent after they get big wins.


And it will take time. The only cure is state constitutional amendments to:

1) Make gerrymandering all but impossible by both parties, preferably making a project like REDMAP flat out illegal. Makes it harder for the kooks to win, and to change the process, if it's an amendment.

2) Implementing DMV registration for all potential voters unless they opt out. Makes it a lot harder to disenfranchise folks at the ballot box if the state has them on the rolls already.
 
2018-01-02 10:46:20 PM  

fusillade762: We're doomed.


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2018-01-02 10:47:06 PM  
You don't want to see Trump's latest tweet. I wish I was making this up. He just said that his button is bigger than 'Lil Kim's. And that his actually works. 

I'm serious. 

Fallout 5: where everything's fart sounds and clownshoes.
 
2018-01-02 10:50:05 PM  
Is this going to be the thread where people will point out it's bad progressives are actually trying at the local level?
 
2018-01-02 10:50:38 PM  

Znuh: You don't want to see Trump's latest tweet. I wish I was making this up. He just said that his button is bigger than 'Lil Kim's. And that his actually works. I'm serious.


Bullshiat. The last time Two Scoops' button worked, Marky Mark was still known as a washed up rapper.
 
2018-01-02 10:51:13 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: gameshowhost: sammyk: While it's good to see more people engage in the political process at all levels of government I think it's going to take years to undo the damage the right has done to the country. The left has a bad habit of getting complacent after they get big wins.

The Dem party has a bad habit of not churning out enough policy deliverables in return for the votes it gets, compared to how the GOP's voters get paid off.

They need to quit being such pushovers and knock off the "oh hey look at us being such nice boys and girls as we keep working with the other side of the aisle that has zero interest in making legitimate compromises"

QFT.

People only appreciate bipartisanship in theory. Nobody actually likes it in practice.


There are some people who like it in practice, though.  They're mostly affluent white people who profit so long as social unrest is kept to a bare minimum.
 
2018-01-02 10:53:47 PM  
Meanwhile at the DNC:  "how can we fark this up?, I need answers people!"
 
2018-01-02 10:54:47 PM  
If your local government has any strong bent towards partisanship, something's wrong with your town. Making decisions for "how much should we allocate to shoring up the river levee" and "should we put a stop sign down near where the Sizemore boys ran over Beatrice Mooning" aren't something people should be lining up for and against along party lines.
 
2018-01-02 10:57:53 PM  
Everybody who opposes the agenda of Trumpism knows people who aren't registered to vote. The Rules aren't complicated. If by November anybody you know isn't registered, you have failed.

Everybody who opposes the agenda of Trumpism knows people who are registered but don't bother to vote. The rules for absentee voting aren't usually complicated. If in November people you know are registered don't vote, you have failed.

Folks can sit around waiting for the DNC or somebody to save them or they can get off their asses and get votes on the books.

Everybody makes choices.
 
2018-01-02 10:59:01 PM  

gameshowhost: compared to how the GOP's voters get paid off.


They don't though.  The GOP voters are gotten out by God, gays, guns, and ... gabortions.  Guns can be called a wash, since the threat is the mythical Democratic Aussieification of the US and they "deliver" by nothing changing.  Besides that, the GOP doesn't deliver, and hasn't delivered in decades.  The oddity of Republican voter discipline is that the party never actually does what it says it will, and yet the voter-base gets more fanatical and doctrinaire the less the GOP does for them.  Hell, the last election, the Republicans outright jacked-off to trying to kill its voters - and they were desperate to crawl over molten glass to pull that R lever.  And even with the Fark the Not-Rich and Their Little Medical Care Too Act, the traditional Republican voters are even more determined to vote straight GOP; its only the mid-line voters and the Confederacy-curious crowd that are sort of maybe deciding that they could consider not voting for the most retrograde moron the Republicans can muster - and as long as the GOP promises to use a little lube this time, they too will swing gleefully in line to worship the God-Emperor.
 
2018-01-02 10:59:24 PM  

sammyk: While it's good to see more people engage in the political process at all levels of government I think it's going to take years to undo the damage the right has done to the country. The left has a bad habit of getting complacent after they get big wins.


Agreed. We can hope the lasting damage will sustain left-activism, though.
 
2018-01-02 11:00:14 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: gameshowhost: sammyk: While it's good to see more people engage in the political process at all levels of government I think it's going to take years to undo the damage the right has done to the country. The left has a bad habit of getting complacent after they get big wins.

The Dem party has a bad habit of not churning out enough policy deliverables in return for the votes it gets, compared to how the GOP's voters get paid off.

They need to quit being such pushovers and knock off the "oh hey look at us being such nice boys and girls as we keep working with the other side of the aisle that has zero interest in making legitimate compromises"

QFT.

People only appreciate bipartisanship in theory. Nobody actually likes it in practice.


I'm ok with OK results from compromise bills between multiple good-faith actors where everyone gets something they want.

But that's fundamentally predicated on the idea that the GOP are good-faith actors, and you'd have to be clinically brain damaged to believe THAT.

Okay guys, third way compromise was a nice idea but it didn't work... time to go with the spirit of the original Progressives and fight back against the oligarchs.
 
2018-01-02 11:00:31 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: If your local government has any strong bent towards partisanship, something's wrong with your town. Making decisions for "how much should we allocate to shoring up the river levee" and "should we put a stop sign down near where the Sizemore boys ran over Beatrice Mooning" aren't something people should be lining up for and against along party lines.


One of my old selectmen is a die hard Republican. He and I would disagree with everything nationally. Yet, he was the guy that would look at the people in my town demanding the town spend no money, lower their property taxes to zero, and call them crazy. His work on the budget was perfect and the town ran well.
 
2018-01-02 11:03:41 PM  

Munden: I don't think we're 'doomed', but I think that...
mass shootings will continue to become more commonplace and normalized
AI is going to be much more disruptive than people will be ready for
Top earners will continue to earn more, concentrating wealth


I can see uncontrolled gun sales and concealed carry leading to shootouts in major cities that look like your average episode of Gunsmoke.

It's going on take so long to unwind this kleptocracy crap that most of us won't live to see it.
 
2018-01-02 11:05:26 PM  

Znuh: You don't want to see Trump's latest tweet. I wish I was making this up. He just said that his button is bigger than 'Lil Kim's. And that his actually works. 

I'm serious. 

Fallout 5: where everything's fart sounds and clownshoes.


JFC. You weren't kidding. And the one an hour after it is just as bad.

img.fark.netView Full Size
 
2018-01-02 11:06:45 PM  

fusillade762: We're doomed.


Rammstein - Amerika (Official Video)
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2018-01-02 11:06:48 PM  

Munden: I don't think we're 'doomed', but I think that...
mass shootings will continue to become more commonplace and normalized
AI is going to be much more disruptive than people will be ready for
Top earners will continue to earn more, concentrating wealth


Access to birth control and abortions when that fails (or isn't used at all) will get harder to come by in more jurisdictions.

Red states better get ready for more teen mom school dropouts.
 
2018-01-02 11:08:10 PM  

Bonzo_1116: Munden: I don't think we're 'doomed', but I think that...
mass shootings will continue to become more commonplace and normalized
AI is going to be much more disruptive than people will be ready for
Top earners will continue to earn more, concentrating wealth

Access to birth control and abortions when that fails (or isn't used at all) will get harder to come by in more jurisdictions.

Red states better get ready for more teen mom school dropouts.


Roy Moore is ready and waiting.
 
2018-01-02 11:09:45 PM  
Democrats need a 50 state strategy. No (R) in a Federal office should be running unopposed.

I don't know so much about local elections. I've voted for Republicans and Democrats, it really comes down to who seems to be the most competent. I've seen local Republicans act as true fiscal conservatives, and improvise reliable solutions to problems that would have cost thousands of dollars if they had just blown through tax revenues by going to City Council, and I've voted for them. I've seen local Democrats with spines who were willing to buck complacency and the status quo because they saw something that needed to be fixed (or something we all knew needed to be fixed but never did anything about it), and I've voted for them too. I've seen them work with local Republicans to get it done. There's no need for hyperpartisanship at the local level. It's when you start getting into state legislatures that you start to see problems.
 
2018-01-02 11:12:03 PM  
I'm sure this will sway the "Progressives are responsible for Republicans winning" crowd.
 
2018-01-02 11:12:15 PM  

phalamir: gameshowhost: compared to how the GOP's voters get paid off.

They don't though.  The GOP voters are gotten out by God, gays, guns, and ... gabortions.  Guns can be called a wash, since the threat is the mythical Democratic Aussieification of the US and they "deliver" by nothing changing.  Besides that, the GOP doesn't deliver, and hasn't delivered in decades.  The oddity of Republican voter discipline is that the party never actually does what it says it will, and yet the voter-base gets more fanatical and doctrinaire the less the GOP does for them.  Hell, the last election, the Republicans outright jacked-off to trying to kill its voters - and they were desperate to crawl over molten glass to pull that R lever.  And even with the Fark the Not-Rich and Their Little Medical Care Too Act, the traditional Republican voters are even more determined to vote straight GOP; its only the mid-line voters and the Confederacy-curious crowd that are sort of maybe deciding that they could consider not voting for the most retrograde moron the Republicans can muster - and as long as the GOP promises to use a little lube this time, they too will swing gleefully in line to worship the God-Emperor.


That's true to an extent.

Value is based on perception as well as reality.  Just happens that liberals are less into perception than conservatives are, when it comes to said political valuation, so liberal political payoffs have to be made out of better policy, and Dems seem to have forgotten that.

Doesn't help that the Dem party power brokers fold to half of the GOP's demands before they begin the negotiations.
 
2018-01-02 11:13:46 PM  

powhound: Znuh: You don't want to see Trump's latest tweet. I wish I was making this up. He just said that his button is bigger than 'Lil Kim's. And that his actually works. 

I'm serious. 

Fallout 5: where everything's fart sounds and clownshoes.

JFC. You weren't kidding. And the one an hour after it is just as bad.

[img.fark.net image 425x441]


I'll bet 192k of his ardent followers actually think he's got a big cock because he's married to Melania.
 
2018-01-02 11:16:22 PM  

Znuh: You don't want to see Trump's latest tweet. I wish I was making this up. He just said that his button is bigger than 'Lil Kim's. And that his actually works. 

I'm serious. 

Fallout 5: where everything's fart sounds and clownshoes.


They already have that mod for Fallout 4.
 
2018-01-02 11:18:17 PM  

Weatherkiss: Democrats need a 50 state strategy. No (R) in a Federal office should be running unopposed.

I don't know so much about local elections. I've voted for Republicans and Democrats, it really comes down to who seems to be the most competent. I've seen local Republicans act as true fiscal conservatives, and improvise reliable solutions to problems that would have cost thousands of dollars if they had just blown through tax revenues by going to City Council, and I've voted for them. I've seen local Democrats with spines who were willing to buck complacency and the status quo because they saw something that needed to be fixed (or something we all knew needed to be fixed but never did anything about it), and I've voted for them too. I've seen them work with local Republicans to get it done. There's no need for hyperpartisanship at the local level. It's when you start getting into state legislatures that you start to see problems.


You used a lot of characters to spell "fence"
 
2018-01-02 11:18:38 PM  

inglixthemad: sammyk: While it's good to see more people engage in the political process at all levels of government I think it's going to take years to undo the damage the right has done to the country. The left has a bad habit of getting complacent after they get big wins.

And it will take time. The only cure is state constitutional amendments to:

1) Make gerrymandering all but impossible by both parties, preferably making a project like REDMAP flat out illegal. Makes it harder for the kooks to win, and to change the process, if it's an amendment.

2) Implementing DMV registration for all potential voters unless they opt out. Makes it a lot harder to disenfranchise folks at the ballot box if the state has them on the rolls already.


The gerrymandering fix is easy.  Triple the size of the House and tie the number of reps going forward to the census (for example, one rep for every 300K people).

You'll have a hell of a time gerrymandering with numbers like that.  It'll take a scalpel.

And for anyone who thinks it would be crazy to have 1300 reps, the number 435 was set in 1911, when the population was around 92 million, 28 percent of what it is today.  If we don't increase the number soon the larger states will be too disenfranchised to do anything about their disenfranchisement.
 
2018-01-02 11:18:48 PM  

Aar1012: Is this going to be the thread where people will point out it's bad progressives are actually trying at the local level?


It is not
 
2018-01-02 11:18:54 PM  

Voiceofreason01: Munden: I don't think we're 'doomed', but I think that...
mass shootings will continue to become more commonplace and normalized
AI is going to be much more disruptive than people will be ready for
Top earners will continue to earn more, concentrating wealth

The term "disruptive" is stupid too.


Lol AI is still in the stone age.
 
2018-01-02 11:19:53 PM  
Sigh. I know it's nitpicky, but as a long-time DC resident, it continually bothers me that (some of) the rest of you all elect and send idiots here, and then biatch about "DC politics" No, it's YOUR politics. We try to go about our business and hope the village idiots that you all elected don't f**K with our lives too much. And no, DC is not the dysfunctional murder capital of the world.

Please insert the above rant whenever the words "DC politics" or similar are used.

Rant off.
 
2018-01-02 11:20:10 PM  

powhound: Znuh: You don't want to see Trump's latest tweet. I wish I was making this up. He just said that his button is bigger than 'Lil Kim's. And that his actually works. 

I'm serious. 

Fallout 5: where everything's fart sounds and clownshoes.

JFC. You weren't kidding. And the one an hour after it is just as bad.

[img.fark.net image 425x441]


He has lost his farking mind. Shame republicans, shame.
 
2018-01-02 11:20:51 PM  

powhound: Weatherkiss: Democrats need a 50 state strategy. No (R) in a Federal office should be running unopposed.

I don't know so much about local elections. I've voted for Republicans and Democrats, it really comes down to who seems to be the most competent. I've seen local Republicans act as true fiscal conservatives, and improvise reliable solutions to problems that would have cost thousands of dollars if they had just blown through tax revenues by going to City Council, and I've voted for them. I've seen local Democrats with spines who were willing to buck complacency and the status quo because they saw something that needed to be fixed (or something we all knew needed to be fixed but never did anything about it), and I've voted for them too. I've seen them work with local Republicans to get it done. There's no need for hyperpartisanship at the local level. It's when you start getting into state legislatures that you start to see problems.

You used a lot of characters to spell "fence"


I get it.
 
2018-01-02 11:22:13 PM  

Lenny and Carl: inglixthemad: sammyk: While it's good to see more people engage in the political process at all levels of government I think it's going to take years to undo the damage the right has done to the country. The left has a bad habit of getting complacent after they get big wins.

And it will take time. The only cure is state constitutional amendments to:

1) Make gerrymandering all but impossible by both parties, preferably making a project like REDMAP flat out illegal. Makes it harder for the kooks to win, and to change the process, if it's an amendment.

2) Implementing DMV registration for all potential voters unless they opt out. Makes it a lot harder to disenfranchise folks at the ballot box if the state has them on the rolls already.

The gerrymandering fix is easy.  Triple the size of the House and tie the number of reps going forward to the census (for example, one rep for every 300K people).

You'll have a hell of a time gerrymandering with numbers like that.  It'll take a scalpel.

And for anyone who thinks it would be crazy to have 1300 reps, the number 435 was set in 1911, when the population was around 92 million, 28 percent of what it is today.  If we don't increase the number soon the larger states will be too disenfranchised to do anything about their disenfranchisement.


It actually needs to be 5 times to put us on parity with the UK wrt voters per legislator.
 
2018-01-02 11:25:36 PM  

inglixthemad: sammyk: While it's good to see more people engage in the political process at all levels of government I think it's going to take years to undo the damage the right has done to the country. The left has a bad habit of getting complacent after they get big wins.

And it will take time. The only cure is state constitutional amendments to:

1) Make gerrymandering all but impossible by both parties, preferably making a project like REDMAP flat out illegal. Makes it harder for the kooks to win, and to change the process, if it's an amendment.

2) Implementing DMV registration for all potential voters unless they opt out. Makes it a lot harder to disenfranchise folks at the ballot box if the state has them on the rolls already.


Jesus Christ.

If you want Constitutional Amendments:

1) No farking money in politics. Everyone gets $XX to spend and all of that is from public funds
2) Corporations are not people and do not have any rights enumerated in this constitution
3) fark the Electoral College to Hell (I would actually name the bill that)
4) Health care is a right
5) Voting is a right, citizens are automatically registered, and anyone trying to obstruct or limit this right will be prosecuted - plus the US government should push all to switch to vote-by-mail as we have here on the West Coast
6) Election Days are holidays - no exceptions
7) The House and Senate vote together as one body - from now on, we adopt Mixed Member Proportional, like Germany, so gerrymandering becomes automatically irrelevant
8) Standardized elections - all representatives, Senators, Governors, and the Presidency are elected at the same time - none of this off-year bullshiat
9) Right to retirement and social security - ends any profiteering from privatization
10) The following must not be for-profit corporations: prisons, schools, universities, police forces, fire departments, fossil fuel companies, weapons manufacturers
11) Right to paid vacation, paid sick leave, paid maternity leave, time-and-a-half for overtime for all, equal pay for equal work, right to unionize
12) Right to no discrimination - no discrimination in hiring, commerce, labor, shelter, marriage, or other institutions against black people, Hispanic people, Asian people, LGBT people, the unemployed, immigrants, the poor, atheists, Muslims, Jews, or minority religions.  Also, all elected and appointed government officials are prohibited from publicly inciting hatred and/or violence against any group or people and shall be removed from office (and shall be ineligible for any other government office) if they have been found to have done so. (if Amazon can limit the public utterances of its employees, I see no reason that our officials cannot be so limited)
13) Any citizen of the United States is eligible to sue any elected official who has voted for a bill or who has taken part in any program that is unconstitutional. (currently you have to have 'standing' and prove that you personally have been harmed which is farking bullshiat)

Basically, I'd like to eliminateproblems for all time and not just reform stuff.  I want to ELIMINATE vote buying. I want to ELIMINATE gerrymandering.

Crush the oligarchy for all time, basically.
 
2018-01-02 11:26:12 PM  

SharkInfested: Sigh. I know it's nitpicky, but as a long-time DC resident, it continually bothers me that (some of) the rest of you all elect and send idiots here, and then biatch about "DC politics" No, it's YOUR politics. We try to go about our business and hope the village idiots that you all elected don't f**K with our lives too much. And no, DC is not the dysfunctional murder capital of the world.

Please insert the above rant whenever the words "DC politics" or similar are used.

Rant off.


I voted in Maricopa County via mail-in ballot. The now former head of elections announced the day after the election the mail-in ballots had not been counted yet.

I have no faith that my vote was even counted.

So it should be my politics but thanks to the GOP in Maricopa County, it probably isn't my politics.
 
2018-01-02 11:28:30 PM  

Lenny and Carl: inglixthemad: sammyk: While it's good to see more people engage in the political process at all levels of government I think it's going to take years to undo the damage the right has done to the country. The left has a bad habit of getting complacent after they get big wins.

And it will take time. The only cure is state constitutional amendments to:

1) Make gerrymandering all but impossible by both parties, preferably making a project like REDMAP flat out illegal. Makes it harder for the kooks to win, and to change the process, if it's an amendment.

2) Implementing DMV registration for all potential voters unless they opt out. Makes it a lot harder to disenfranchise folks at the ballot box if the state has them on the rolls already.

The gerrymandering fix is easy.  Triple the size of the House and tie the number of reps going forward to the census (for example, one rep for every 300K people).

You'll have a hell of a time gerrymandering with numbers like that.  It'll take a scalpel.

And for anyone who thinks it would be crazy to have 1300 reps, the number 435 was set in 1911, when the population was around 92 million, 28 percent of what it is today.  If we don't increase the number soon the larger states will be too disenfranchised to do anything about their disenfranchisement.


New computers have the software to be that scalpel.

I don't disagree that the number of reps should be increased.  I do disagree that your plan will in any way obviate gerrymandering.  Mixed Member Proportional is the only system of which I am aware that allows geographical districts but eliminates gerrymandering as a tool entirely.

It's also been found to be the most egalitarian and democratic way to count votes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed-m​e​mber_proportional_representation
 
2018-01-02 11:29:44 PM  

Rand Paul's Anus is Leaking: inglixthemad: sammyk: While it's good to see more people engage in the political process at all levels of government I think it's going to take years to undo the damage the right has done to the country. The left has a bad habit of getting complacent after they get big wins.

And it will take time. The only cure is state constitutional amendments to:

1) Make gerrymandering all but impossible by both parties, preferably making a project like REDMAP flat out illegal. Makes it harder for the kooks to win, and to change the process, if it's an amendment.

2) Implementing DMV registration for all potential voters unless they opt out. Makes it a lot harder to disenfranchise folks at the ballot box if the state has them on the rolls already.

Jesus Christ.

If you want Constitutional Amendments:

1) No farking money in politics. Everyone gets $XX to spend and all of that is from public funds
2) Corporations are not people and do not have any rights enumerated in this constitution
3) fark the Electoral College to Hell (I would actually name the bill that)
4) Health care is a right
5) Voting is a right, citizens are automatically registered, and anyone trying to obstruct or limit this right will be prosecuted - plus the US government should push all to switch to vote-by-mail as we have here on the West Coast
6) Election Days are holidays - no exceptions
7) The House and Senate vote together as one body - from now on, we adopt Mixed Member Proportional, like Germany, so gerrymandering becomes automatically irrelevant
8) Standardized elections - all representatives, Senators, Governors, and the Presidency are elected at the same time - none of this off-year bullshiat
9) Right to retirement and social security - ends any profiteering from privatization
10) The following must not be for-profit corporations: prisons, schools, universities, police forces, fire departments, fossil fuel companies, weapons manufacturers
11) Right to paid vacation, paid sick leave, paid maternity lea ...


14) DC, Guam, Northern Marianas, Samoa, Puerto Rico, and the Virgin Islands get the same representation as if they were states of similar size. fark this colonial bullshiat racist shiat.
 
2018-01-02 11:30:14 PM  

gameshowhost: powhound: Znuh: You don't want to see Trump's latest tweet. I wish I was making this up. He just said that his button is bigger than 'Lil Kim's. And that his actually works. 

I'm serious. 

Fallout 5: where everything's fart sounds and clownshoes.

JFC. You weren't kidding. And the one an hour after it is just as bad.

[img.fark.net image 425x441]

I'll bet 192k of his ardent followers actually think he's got a big cock because he's married to Melania.


She probably calls it the ugly tiny button.

Somebody already submitted that but I think mine would read something like: My Button is Bigger than your button

/I'm not really all that clever
 
2018-01-02 11:30:28 PM  

Weatherkiss: Democrats need a 50 state strategy. No (R) in a Federal office should be running unopposed.

I don't know so much about local elections. I've voted for Republicans and Democrats, it really comes down to who seems to be the most competent. I've seen local Republicans act as true fiscal conservatives, and improvise reliable solutions to problems that would have cost thousands of dollars if they had just blown through tax revenues by going to City Council, and I've voted for them. I've seen local Democrats with spines who were willing to buck complacency and the status quo because they saw something that needed to be fixed (or something we all knew needed to be fixed but never did anything about it), and I've voted for them too. I've seen them work with local Republicans to get it done. There's no need for hyperpartisanship at the local level. It's when you start getting into state legislatures that you start to see problems.


At the state level one often sees the same problem as we see in Congress - rural areas are over-represented. Liberals cluster in urban areas and their votes are concentrated in a minority of legislative districts. Here in Washington, Seattle and most of the other cities are represented by legislators by Democrats whom, in some cases, get 80% or more of the vote. Meanwhile, all those rural and suburban districts are electing Republicans to the state leg with margins between 5 and 10 percent. If you look at how many voters in the state voted for each party the Democrats clearly dominate, but that doesn't guarantee them a majority.
 
2018-01-02 11:30:30 PM  

powhound: Znuh: You don't want to see Trump's latest tweet. I wish I was making this up. He just said that his button is bigger than 'Lil Kim's. And that his actually works. 

I'm serious. 

Fallout 5: where everything's fart sounds and clownshoes.

JFC. You weren't kidding. And the one an hour after it is just as bad.

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fark me. Just fark me to hell that can't be real.
 
2018-01-02 11:33:49 PM  

Rand Paul's Anus is Leaking: inglixthemad: sammyk: While it's good to see more people engage in the political process at all levels of government I think it's going to take years to undo the damage the right has done to the country. The left has a bad habit of getting complacent after they get big wins.

And it will take time. The only cure is state constitutional amendments to:

1) Make gerrymandering all but impossible by both parties, preferably making a project like REDMAP flat out illegal. Makes it harder for the kooks to win, and to change the process, if it's an amendment.

2) Implementing DMV registration for all potential voters unless they opt out. Makes it a lot harder to disenfranchise folks at the ballot box if the state has them on the rolls already.

Jesus Christ.

If you want Constitutional Amendments:

1) No farking money in politics. Everyone gets $XX to spend and all of that is from public funds
2) Corporations are not people and do not have any rights enumerated in this constitution
3) fark the Electoral College to Hell (I would actually name the bill that)
4) Health care is a right
5) Voting is a right, citizens are automatically registered, and anyone trying to obstruct or limit this right will be prosecuted - plus the US government should push all to switch to vote-by-mail as we have here on the West Coast
6) Election Days are holidays - no exceptions
7) The House and Senate vote together as one body - from now on, we adopt Mixed Member Proportional, like Germany, so gerrymandering becomes automatically irrelevant
8) Standardized elections - all representatives, Senators, Governors, and the Presidency are elected at the same time - none of this off-year bullshiat
9) Right to retirement and social security - ends any profiteering from privatization
10) The following must not be for-profit corporations: prisons, schools, universities, police forces, fire departments, fossil fuel companies, weapons manufacturers
11) Right to paid vacation, paid sick leave, paid maternity leave, time-and-a-half for overtime for all, equal pay for equal work, right to unionize
12) Right to no discrimination - no discrimination in hiring, commerce, labor, shelter, marriage, or other institutions against black people, Hispanic people, Asian people, LGBT people, the unemployed, immigrants, the poor, atheists, Muslims, Jews, or minority religions.  Also, all elected and appointed government officials are prohibited from publicly inciting hatred and/or violence against any group or people and shall be removed from office (and shall be ineligible for any other government office) if they have been found to have done so. (if Amazon can limit the public utterances of its employees, I see no reason that our officials cannot be so limited)
13) Any citizen of the United States is eligible to sue any elected official who has voted for a bill or who has taken part in any program that is unconstitutional. (currently you have to have 'standing' and prove that you personally have been harmed which is farking bullshiat)

Basically, I'd like to eliminateproblems for all time and not just reform stuff.  I want to ELIMINATE vote buying. I want to ELIMINATE gerrymandering.

Crush the oligarchy for all time, basically.


For #1, the problem is not campaign contributions, it's outside spending; you'd need to limit that as well, which is a dodgy proposition (not because it's a bad idea, because it starts futzing with freedom of speech and association)

For #8, would everyone always be elected to four-year terms, or does "off year" refer generally to odd-numbered years

For #13, sue them for what? Or is this a pre-emptive "any citizen can challenge any law on constitutional grounds" thing
 
2018-01-02 11:34:14 PM  
btw subby did you read this one today?

https://www.politico.com/magazine/sto​r​y/2018/01/02/donald-trump-foreign-poli​cy-analysis-dangerous-216202

"It's worse than you think."

/is much easier to destroy than it is to create
 
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