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2018-01-02 09:52:19 AM  
She added that wasn't sure regular customers even knew how to operate the pumps.

A cursory google search reveals this:

Step 1: Park your vehicle. Pull your vehicle to the pump so the nozzle is near your fuel filler. This makes it easier for you to reach your fuel filler with the pump nozzle. Note: You should never pump fuel into your car if it's not in Park.

It goes into great detail. Suddenly I am regretting that gainful employment requires me to be sober.
 
2018-01-02 10:07:19 AM  
Oregon and New Jersey. Never understood this.
 
2018-01-02 10:20:33 AM  

FlashHarry: Oregon and New Jersey. Never understood this.


It is sooo nice in the winter.

But I will say I transitioned to pumping after moving to FL from NJ pretty easily.  A few bars of Xanax helped ease the panic attacks in the beginning, as did the group therapy.
 
2018-01-02 10:25:27 AM  

hobnail: Step 1: Park your vehicle. Pull your vehicle to the pump so the nozzle is near your fuel filler.


You'll probably want to leave in neutral if you're going to need to pull it near the pump.

Or just park it near the nozzle in the first place.
 
2018-01-02 10:36:03 AM  
Huh. I didn't realize there were still states where you get full service at gas stations.
 
2018-01-02 10:37:16 AM  

FlashHarry: Oregon and New Jersey. Never understood this.


The locals are too dumb to do it themselves without creating a constant stream of conflagrations.
 
2018-01-02 10:37:27 AM  
it would be nice to at least have the option to pump my own, instead of waiting for the attendant ... or getting sour looks for just doing it myself
/would the cost of gas go down then?
/ha ha no, of course it wont
 
2018-01-02 10:37:36 AM  

FlashHarry: Oregon and New Jersey. Never understood this.


Maybe this helpful PSA will shed some light on the dangers of civilians pumping their own gas. This was commissioned by the federal government back in 2001, but still resonates today.

Zoolander (Gasoline Fight)
Youtube aWeG6Ea84zg
 
2018-01-02 10:37:51 AM  

lindalouwho: Huh. I didn't realize there were still states where you get full service at gas stations.


They pump gas for you. I wouldn't call it "full service".
 
2018-01-02 10:38:57 AM  

lindalouwho: Huh. I didn't realize there were still states where you get full service at gas stations.


Yeah, I think it's just a holdover that they haven't managed to truly get rid of, they just kind of try it, but don't really give it their full effort.
 
2018-01-02 10:39:34 AM  
Washington State resident here. You have not lived until you have heard a Native Oregonian explain the benefits and advantages to not operating your own gas pump. Or been stared down by a fat out of work logger in a neckbeard and missing teeth when you forgot and started the deadly and dangerous operation yourself.
 
2018-01-02 10:41:05 AM  

This text is now purple: FlashHarry: Oregon  Never understood this.

The locals are too dumb to do it themselves without creating a constant stream of conflagrations.


which is odd cause most folks here are from elsewhere & are likely pretty good at pumping their own
/local
/first job was pumping gas
/always let motorcycles pump their own - which i kind of still don't get
 
2018-01-02 10:41:41 AM  

This text is now purple: lindalouwho: Huh. I didn't realize there were still states where you get full service at gas stations.

They pump gas for you. I wouldn't call it "full service".


Some semi-employed logger and/or opioid addict fumbling his fat meaty paws on my rental car is not really my idea of "full service" anything. But it's the Oregon welfare system -- they keep unemployment low by always having enough jobs pumping gas. And allowing hitchhiking on federal highways.

Oregon is a strange place. I don't recommend staying long.
 
2018-01-02 10:52:27 AM  
We still have a bunch of 'full service' stations here in sourtheastern PA...but they are usually old off-brand stations that are only full service because their pumps are so old that they don't have card readers (or cash only so they are priced lower).....and the attendants expect tips.
 
2018-01-02 10:55:33 AM  

Diogenes: FlashHarry: Oregon and New Jersey. Never understood this.

It is sooo nice in the winter.

But I will say I transitioned to pumping after moving to FL from NJ pretty easily.  A few bars of Xanax helped ease the panic attacks in the beginning, as did the group therapy.


I was that rare Jersey boy who knew how to pump gas because my father owned a gas station and I was
pumping gas since I was 11.  But I was a mutant.
 
2018-01-02 10:58:00 AM  

FlashHarry: Oregon and New Jersey. Never understood this.


Will anyone actually raise a commotion or get you in trouble if you pump your own gas in these states? I mean it's not an industrial smelter, its a gas pump.
 
2018-01-02 10:59:10 AM  

FlashHarry: Oregon and New Jersey. Never understood this.


Job security.
 
2018-01-02 11:03:13 AM  
"A law passed by the Legislature in May and signed into law by Gov. Kate Brown in June will allow Oregon counties with 40,000 residents or less to deviate from that. "

I haven't seen a full service gas station since the early 80s. I'm always amazed when I read about states with ridiculous laws like this.

"Some station managers told the paper Thursday that their attendants would continue servicing patron's cars just as it has been done since 1951."

That will all change the moment one station goes self service and drops their price 25 cents per gallon. One month later, they'll all be self service. Then, once they realize everyone is driving outside the city limits to buy their gas, they'll drop the ignorant 40k population limit.
 
2018-01-02 11:08:21 AM  

SkylineRecords: FlashHarry: Oregon and New Jersey. Never understood this.

Will anyone actually raise a commotion or get you in trouble if you pump your own gas in these states? I mean it's not an industrial smelter, its a gas pump.


In NJ they will vigorously discourage you if you try, and I imagine that if you persist they will call the cops.
 
2018-01-02 11:17:38 AM  
If you can't figure out how to use a gas pump, you have no business operating a motor vehicle in the first place. I sure wouldn't trust you to drive me anywhere.
 
2018-01-02 11:24:11 AM  
As an Oregonian, I don't have any reason to complain someone else is doing my meaningless chores for me.
 
2018-01-02 11:24:59 AM  
Pumping gas for Shell was my first real job.
Ding Ding! Run don't walk out to greet the customer. Take order, offer to rape the customer by checking under the hood. Start the gas. Wash windows. Open hood and short stick the oil, show customer that a quart is low.
Yank hard on all hoses, maybe pull a plug wire. Top off gas to pennies over a round dollar amount. Short change customer a nickel on the hand full of change.
Good times.
 
2018-01-02 11:28:49 AM  

covfefe: As an Oregonian, I don't have any reason to complain someone else is doing my meaningless chores for me.


Having to wait a minute or two after hearing the pump shut off because the attendant is busy dealing with other cars is a huge plus, too.
 
2018-01-02 11:33:32 AM  
I remember that kind of service at a gas station from my younger days.

It's been at least 25 years since I've been to the kind of gas station where there is an attendant.

I've never driven my own car in New Jersey and never been or Oregon.
 
2018-01-02 11:35:55 AM  
I never saw my grandmother pump her own gas.  She only went to the full service station.
 
2018-01-02 11:39:05 AM  

DjangoStonereaver: Diogenes: FlashHarry: Oregon and New Jersey. Never understood this.

It is sooo nice in the winter.

But I will say I transitioned to pumping after moving to FL from NJ pretty easily.  A few bars of Xanax helped ease the panic attacks in the beginning, as did the group therapy.

I was that rare Jersey boy who knew how to pump gas because my father owned a gas station and I was
pumping gas since I was 11.  But I was a mutant.


It's how my dad paid for his books when he went to Rutgers.
 
2018-01-02 11:39:51 AM  
Unfortunately this law is precisely backwards. It's people in the rural areas that want to sit there and chew the fat with the kid pumping gas. We in the city want to get in and out of there as fast as possible, hopefully without seeing another human being.

I'll be selling the last gas car I'll ever own in a couple of months. I won't miss the Oregon gas stations at all.
 
2018-01-02 11:42:06 AM  
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2018-01-02 11:43:18 AM  

Confabulat: If you can't figure out how to use a gas pump, you have no business operating a motor vehicle in the first place. I sure wouldn't trust you to drive me anywhere.


I'd bet that anyone under the age of 30 would still have difficulty with one of these the first time:

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And yes, there are still stations in New Jersey that use those - why bother buying & installing the more expensive self-service style pumps if you can't use them (if you're a small family owned station).

Granted, anyone who's ever used one of these in the past know about the handle on the side of the machine that starts the pump, but I can easily see if confusing a lot of people the first time.
 
2018-01-02 11:46:40 AM  
Does Oregon and NJ have attendants at the Telsa supercharger stations to plug the cord in for you?

Just asking.

When you had to operate the old.visual tank pumps with no electricity, I could see having an attendant literally pump your gas.
 
2018-01-02 11:48:13 AM  
Quick question for any Oregonians:

When I get my tank filled, the attendant always tells me how many gallons were dispensed, and asks if that is okay.  What is really being asked here?  It's not like they're going to be able to take some back out if I decided that I wanted to buy less...
 
2018-01-02 11:54:28 AM  
I pumped gas in the Lakewood NJ ghetto in high school. Had to wear a button around my neck that would summon the po po if I pressed it. The hasid were seldom a problem, and I'd let the local g's use the tire break to set up their rims, for which they'd throw me some weed or the other. All in all a pretty easy gig. Plus when I moved back to Florida, I knew how to be.
 
2018-01-02 12:01:37 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: SkylineRecords: FlashHarry: Oregon and New Jersey. Never understood this.

Will anyone actually raise a commotion or get you in trouble if you pump your own gas in these states? I mean it's not an industrial smelter, its a gas pump.

In NJ they will vigorously discourage you if you try, and I imagine that if you persist they will call the cops.


Thanks for answering that, and that is insanely stupid. If a 15-year-old on a learner's permit can do it, there shouldn't be laws to protect us from the dangers of pumping our own gas.
 
2018-01-02 12:04:21 PM  

Nightjars: Quick question for any Oregonians:

When I get my tank filled, the attendant always tells me how many gallons were dispensed, and asks if that is okay.  What is really being asked here?  It's not like they're going to be able to take some back out if I decided that I wanted to buy less...


They are no longer allowed to top off or pump up to a nice round number.  So when the pump cuts off automatically-- especially after just a few gallons are dispensed-- they ask if the amount seems reasonable.  If not they can start the pump again without getting in trouble.
 
2018-01-02 12:05:31 PM  

chase_neal: Nightjars: Quick question for any Oregonians:

When I get my tank filled, the attendant always tells me how many gallons were dispensed, and asks if that is okay.  What is really being asked here?  It's not like they're going to be able to take some back out if I decided that I wanted to buy less...

They are no longer allowed to top off or pump up to a nice round number.  So when the pump cuts off automatically-- especially after just a few gallons are dispensed-- they ask if the amount seems reasonable.  If not they can start the pump again without getting in trouble.


Makes sense, thanks.  Though I'm surprised that they'd be willing to start pumping again even if you asked them too, since that's how spills happen.
 
2018-01-02 12:06:21 PM  

Nightjars: chase_neal: Nightjars: Quick question for any Oregonians:

When I get my tank filled, the attendant always tells me how many gallons were dispensed, and asks if that is okay.  What is really being asked here?  It's not like they're going to be able to take some back out if I decided that I wanted to buy less...

They are no longer allowed to top off or pump up to a nice round number.  So when the pump cuts off automatically-- especially after just a few gallons are dispensed-- they ask if the amount seems reasonable.  If not they can start the pump again without getting in trouble.

Makes sense, thanks.  Though I'm surprised that they'd be willing to start pumping again even if you asked them too, since that's how spills happen.


s/too/to
 
2018-01-02 12:09:27 PM  

SkylineRecords: Will anyone actually raise a commotion or get you in trouble if you pump your own gas in these states? I mean it's not an industrial smelter, its a gas pump.


Imagine a 20 year old neckbeard sputtering Oregon State Law he's been told to memorize.

Just apologize and say you're Californian and get back in your car, and you might survive the encounter.

Or better still, tank up at Yreka on the state line, point it north and don't stop until you reach Vancouver WA. Ideally Salem OR isn't fogged closed like it always is this time of year.

And whatever you do,not talk to the Criddlers.
 
2018-01-02 12:09:41 PM  

Nightjars: chase_neal: Nightjars: Quick question for any Oregonians:

When I get my tank filled, the attendant always tells me how many gallons were dispensed, and asks if that is okay.  What is really being asked here?  It's not like they're going to be able to take some back out if I decided that I wanted to buy less...

They are no longer allowed to top off or pump up to a nice round number.  So when the pump cuts off automatically-- especially after just a few gallons are dispensed-- they ask if the amount seems reasonable.  If not they can start the pump again without getting in trouble.

Makes sense, thanks.  Though I'm surprised that they'd be willing to start pumping again even if you asked them too, since that's how spills happen.


Yep.  If you get a cranky pump that randomly shuts off, you might not be full.  "I added four gallons, does that sound right?"  "No, I was near empty, should be at least 12"
 
2018-01-02 12:11:15 PM  

SkylineRecords: DjangoStonereaver: SkylineRecords: FlashHarry: Oregon and New Jersey. Never understood this.

Will anyone actually raise a commotion or get you in trouble if you pump your own gas in these states? I mean it's not an industrial smelter, its a gas pump.

In NJ they will vigorously discourage you if you try, and I imagine that if you persist they will call the cops.

Thanks for answering that, and that is insanely stupid. If a 15-year-old on a learner's permit can do it, there shouldn't be laws to protect us from the dangers of pumping our own gas.


Oregon likes to think of itself as doing you this amazing service by preventing your handling a gas pump. Like the rest of the world is wrong and they're right. Just humor them. And don't make too much eye contact.
 
2018-01-02 12:12:38 PM  

Generation_D: Or better still, tank up at Yreka on the state line, point it north and don't stop until you reach Vancouver WA. Ideally Salem OR isn't fogged closed like it always is this time of year.


Every time I decide to go on a road trip to California, I gas up in Vancouver and start the long journey down low-speed-limit Oregon.  I always hope that I can make it to the border, but always chicken out and stop at the Freddies or Costco in Medford.
 
2018-01-02 12:19:17 PM  

SkylineRecords: DjangoStonereaver: SkylineRecords: FlashHarry: Oregon and New Jersey. Never understood this.

Will anyone actually raise a commotion or get you in trouble if you pump your own gas in these states? I mean it's not an industrial smelter, its a gas pump.

In NJ they will vigorously discourage you if you try, and I imagine that if you persist they will call the cops.

Thanks for answering that, and that is insanely stupid. If a 15-year-old on a learner's permit can do it, there shouldn't be laws to protect us from the dangers of pumping our own gas.


I once asked my father why NJ didn't have self service gas, and he flat out said it was due to the influence
of the gas companies.  Until the late 80s, the stereotype of northern NJ being nothing but a string of
oil refineries was no joke:  my birthplace of Elizabeth had no less than 4 when I was born, and the last
one was only closed in the mid 90s in favor of a natural gas plant.  The reason as I remember it was that
the transportation costs were so low that they needed an excuse to keep prices high(ish), and they
manufactured the official justification of exposure to hazardous gas fumes to justify it.  And even with
that, until the last round of gas price fluctuations NJ's gas prices were still astonishingly low.  The fact that
their prices have come up a bit (though they're still a few pennies lower than surrounding states) shows
me that the economy has undergone a seismic shift for the ill.
 
2018-01-02 12:20:52 PM  
I suspect the vast majority of people in Oregon have pumped gas in other states. As far as rural people go, many of them have pumps on their farms for tractors and such; believe me, filling the tank on a hot tractor is way more difficult that filling a car.
 
2018-01-02 12:22:24 PM  

natazha: I suspect the vast majority of people in Oregon have pumped gas in other states. As far as rural people go, many of them have pumps on their farms for tractors and such; believe me, filling the tank on a hot tractor is way more difficult that filling a car.


I imagine that's generally true, but, as a native Pacific Northwesterner, it astonishes me how many of my peers have never left the state they were born in.  It's odd.
 
2018-01-02 12:24:38 PM  

natazha: I suspect the vast majority of people in Oregon have pumped gas in other states. As far as rural people go, many of them have pumps on their farms for tractors and such; believe me, filling the tank on a hot tractor is way more difficult that filling a car.


You're assuming a vast majority of Oregonians has ever left the state. While that's true in Portland, once you get out in the rural areas... it gets pretty deep in the woods pretty fast.

I'd be willing to bet most rural Oregonians has more experience siphoning gas off a car than filling farm gear. Or filling up a chainsaw.
 
2018-01-02 12:35:55 PM  

Nightjars: Quick question for any Oregonians:

When I get my tank filled, the attendant always tells me how many gallons were dispensed, and asks if that is okay.  What is really being asked here?  It's not like they're going to be able to take some back out if I decided that I wanted to buy less...


I usually get that when it's a low quantity and they're making sure the pump didn't click off too early.
 
2018-01-02 12:46:25 PM  
I find the idea of having someone filling up your car weird. We don't have it in the UK, it just doesn't happen. Can't say I've ever heard of anyone bursting into flames while doing so either - it's not bloody rocket surgery after all.
 
2018-01-02 12:56:33 PM  
It's a good thing Oregonians never drive to other states. Otherwise they'd run the risk of running out of gas before getting back to their beloved full service pumps.

Travel Tip: If transiting Oregon via I-5 pull off into the 7 Feathers Casino/Resort gas station at Exit 99. Being on the reservation they are not subject to the "no self-serve" law, and happily allow you to pump your own, or will just as happily pump for you if you prefer. Nice folks and low prices.
 
2018-01-02 01:05:16 PM  
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Full service stations are few and far between unless you're handicapped as far as I know.
 
2018-01-02 01:07:49 PM  

Stone Meadow: 7 Feathers Casino/Resort gas station at Exit 99


Just watch out for the elderly on their hoverounds
 
2018-01-02 01:36:31 PM  
Haven't had anyone pump gas for me since sometime in the 80's.  But there's a local small town that still has a "full service only' law on the books.  One of the two gas stations they have is on a semi-main state road at the edge of town, and I cannot for the life of me figure out how they are still in business. Why would anyone pay .25 per gallon more when you can literally see a cheaper, self-serve station 1/4 mile away?

It's truly baffling to me. It's not like it's a terribly affluent area with rich-folk gassing up the Bentley. But I guess you should never underestimate the amount of lazy in the world.
 
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