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2018-01-02 02:06:40 AM  
Beets are awesome, and they last months in the fridge.
 
2018-01-02 04:00:44 AM  
And no one responsible will every pay for decades of lies.
 
2018-01-02 04:01:18 AM  
I mean, maybe some of them will drown...
 
2018-01-02 06:05:55 AM  
I just went to the sh*tter to drop a big one, nothing all that exciting happened.
 
2018-01-02 06:14:54 AM  
CSB time....Teller came to give a lecture at my high school during the 1991-92 school year.  It was surreal.  He came out onstage in a wheelchair with a nurse attendant.  It was like seeing Dr. Strangelove in the flesh.  If I remember correctly, he ranted and raved about the wrongs of Al Gore...

Anyway... this is a great find of an article.  Cheers subby
 
2018-01-02 06:15:16 AM  
And here we are with the Empire State building under water.  Bwahahahaa
 
2018-01-02 06:19:48 AM  
I once looked into the history of sci-fi as a genre, and there was a book in the really early 19th century, something like the 1820s, that speculated industrialization causing global temperatures to rise and melting the ice caps. I thought it was kind of weird since whoever wrote that didn't have any scientific data at that time to base his story on as far as I know.
 
2018-01-02 06:22:22 AM  
I wasn't aware he was able to talk
 
2018-01-02 06:32:48 AM  
Argh... tobacco, sugar, oil... every big industry has turned out to be evil in ignoring or deflecting their harms even after they became clear. Didn't someone important say that an ignorant man was better educated than one educated by the media?
 
2018-01-02 06:44:59 AM  
Is this another bidet thread?
 
2018-01-02 06:50:17 AM  

I want that sauce Morty!: I once looked into the history of sci-fi as a genre, and there was a book in the really early 19th century, something like the 1820s, that speculated industrialization causing global temperatures to rise and melting the ice caps. I thought it was kind of weird since whoever wrote that didn't have any scientific data at that time to base his story on as far as I know.


They were probably just reasoning that burning stuff creates heat or noticed the heat island effect as cities became denser. It's a cool find either way.
 
2018-01-02 06:52:55 AM  

wildcardjack: Argh... tobacco, sugar, oil... every big industry has turned out to be evil in ignoring or deflecting their harms even after they became clear. Didn't someone important say that an ignorant man was better educated than one educated by the media?


Trump?
 
2018-01-02 06:54:27 AM  
The same thing that always happens.  The industry will ignore the warnings unless there's a way to profit.
 
2018-01-02 06:55:06 AM  
Remember that Teller is also the only human being who looked at a Nuke and saw a Swiss Army Knife. Need to bore through a mountain? Use a Nuke. Need to get a space vessel into high orbit? Use a Nuke. Need to dredge out a bay? Use a Nuke.

That doesn't make him wrong about climate change, but I'd have been very suspect of that pickle jar lid he just loosed has a cheery Cherenkov glow.
 
2018-01-02 07:13:36 AM  
Teller? I barely even knew 'er!
 
2018-01-02 07:14:28 AM  

Public Call Box: Remember that Teller is also the only human being who looked at a Nuke and saw a Swiss Army Knife. Need to bore through a mountain? Use a Nuke. Need to get a space vessel into high orbit? Use a Nuke. Need to dredge out a bay? Use a Nuke.

That doesn't make him wrong about climate change, but I'd have been very suspect of that pickle jar lid he just loosed has a cheery Cherenkov glow.


Is that why he looks like a pig?
 
2018-01-02 07:16:23 AM  

wooden_badger: Is this another bidet thread?


Any thread can be a bidet thread if you're brave enough.
 
2018-01-02 07:19:12 AM  

Public Call Box: Remember that Teller is also the only human being who looked at a Nuke and saw a Swiss Army Knife. Need to bore through a mountain? Use a Nuke. Need to get a space vessel into high orbit? Use a Nuke. Need to dredge out a bay? Use a Nuke.

That doesn't make him wrong about climate change, but I'd have been very suspect of that pickle jar lid he just loosed has a cheery Cherenkov glow.


Operation plowshare was a huge success for people who don't mind highly radioactive natural gas.
It's funny how as a society we've come to accept and contain one invisible evil (radiation) but still can't do anything about the other (atmospheric carbon dioxide), and this guy was flipped on these issues.
 
2018-01-02 07:30:33 AM  
All I ever needed to know about global warming was learned in Civ 2.

Sid Meier had Al Gore beat by good 10-15 years.

We just need to train more settlers.
 
2018-01-02 07:34:59 AM  
... don't want to hurt no kangaroo. We'll build an all-American amusement park there. ...
 
2018-01-02 07:48:54 AM  
Someone pull up that story of big oil choosing not to open up a particular oil or gas field because of the possible side affects of global warming.  I think this particular field was excessively large, I think it happened in the 70's or 80's.
 
2018-01-02 08:05:59 AM  
Cassandra was right.
 
2018-01-02 08:07:44 AM  

giantmeteor: Public Call Box: Remember that Teller is also the only human being who looked at a Nuke and saw a Swiss Army Knife. Need to bore through a mountain? Use a Nuke. Need to get a space vessel into high orbit? Use a Nuke. Need to dredge out a bay? Use a Nuke.

That doesn't make him wrong about climate change, but I'd have been very suspect of that pickle jar lid he just loosed has a cheery Cherenkov glow.

Operation plowshare was a huge success for people who don't mind highly radioactive natural gas.
It's funny how as a society we've come to accept and contain one invisible evil (radiation) but still can't do anything about the other (atmospheric carbon dioxide), and this guy was flipped on these issues.


I live in a city south of some nuclear fracking sites. Apparently some modern wells are only a couple miles away, but that gas is totally safe, not radioactive at all.
 
2018-01-02 08:09:04 AM  

IgG4: Beets are awesome, and they last months in the fridge.


Global warming isn't real because the corporate TV said so. and we all know businessmen are the most trustworthy folks on the planet.   kinda' like used car salesmen.
 
2018-01-02 08:11:10 AM  

baufan2005: And here we are with the Empire State building under water.  Bwahahahaa


it won't get that high.  but don't live too close to the coast........
 
2018-01-02 08:12:11 AM  

wildcardjack: Argh... tobacco, sugar, oil... every big industry has turned out to be evil in ignoring or deflecting their harms even after they became clear. Didn't someone important say that an ignorant man was better educated than one educated by the media?


because the mainstream media is owned by Big Business.  not terribly high on the 'honest' scale.
 
2018-01-02 08:12:21 AM  
Who let Randy Newman submit headlines?
 
2018-01-02 08:15:55 AM  

I want that sauce Morty!: I once looked into the history of sci-fi as a genre, and there was a book in the really early 19th century, something like the 1820s, that speculated industrialization causing global temperatures to rise and melting the ice caps. I thought it was kind of weird since whoever wrote that didn't have any scientific data at that time to base his story on as far as I know.


The greenhouse gas effect was discovered by some scientist in the late 1700s or early 1800s (I think). I'm not sure if he connected it to industrialization or not.

/Too lazy too look up the scientist.
 
2018-01-02 08:20:09 AM  

Mister Buttons: All I ever needed to know about global warming was learned in Civ 2.

Sid Meier had Al Gore beat by good 10-15 years.

We just need to train more settlers.


CSB - I bought a house from Sid Meier.  Nice guy.  Garage was used to raise rabbits (I kid you not).  Much, much, much less palacial than you'd think, BTW.  In fact, not palacial at all, just a regular old house on a medium size hill well north of Charm City.
 
2018-01-02 09:14:00 AM  

eiger: I want that sauce Morty!: I once looked into the history of sci-fi as a genre, and there was a book in the really early 19th century, something like the 1820s, that speculated industrialization causing global temperatures to rise and melting the ice caps. I thought it was kind of weird since whoever wrote that didn't have any scientific data at that time to base his story on as far as I know.

The greenhouse gas effect was discovered by some scientist in the late 1700s or early 1800s (I think). I'm not sure if he connected it to industrialization or not.

/Too lazy too look up the scientist.


Fourier first proposed an atmospheric insulating effect in 1824
 
2018-01-02 09:14:47 AM  

Unemployedingreenland: Mister Buttons: All I ever needed to know about global warming was learned in Civ 2.

Sid Meier had Al Gore beat by good 10-15 years.

We just need to train more settlers.

CSB - I bought a house from Sid Meier.  Nice guy.  Garage was used to raise rabbits (I kid you not).  Much, much, much less palacial than you'd think, BTW.  In fact, not palacial at all, just a regular old house on a medium size hill well north of Charm City.


Yea, until it enters the next era.
 
2018-01-02 09:23:53 AM  

qorkfiend: eiger: I want that sauce Morty!: I once looked into the history of sci-fi as a genre, and there was a book in the really early 19th century, something like the 1820s, that speculated industrialization causing global temperatures to rise and melting the ice caps. I thought it was kind of weird since whoever wrote that didn't have any scientific data at that time to base his story on as far as I know.

The greenhouse gas effect was discovered by some scientist in the late 1700s or early 1800s (I think). I'm not sure if he connected it to industrialization or not.

/Too lazy too look up the scientist.

Fourier first proposed an atmospheric insulating effect in 1824


Arrhenius presented a paper on the effects of changing atmospheric CO2 on temperatures  1895. He didn't explicitly connect this to industrialization, but did note that CO2 was a produced from fossil fuels. Until the late 50's, the increase of CO2 in the atmosphere was largely inferred from changing carbon isotope ratios. Keeling started measuring co2 directly in the late 50's.
Yep, this has all been known to science for a while.
 
2018-01-02 09:27:08 AM  

Mister Buttons: All I ever needed to know about global warming was learned in Civ 2.

Sid Meier had Al Gore beat by good 10-15 years.

We just need to train more settlers.


Our words are backed by nuclear weapons. Gig


Civ 3 had more humor and you could must capture foreign workers (slaves).

All candidates should have to publicly run through a game of Civ on medium difficulty.
 
2018-01-02 09:37:00 AM  

wademh: ... don't want to hurt no kangaroo. We'll build an all-American amusement park there. ...


No one likes us. I don't know why.
 
2018-01-02 12:27:55 PM  

Public Call Box: Remember that Teller is also the only human being who looked at a Nuke and saw a Swiss Army Knife. Need to bore through a mountain? Use a Nuke. Need to get a space vessel into high orbit? Use a Nuke. Need to dredge out a bay? Use a Nuke.

That doesn't make him wrong about climate change, but I'd have been very suspect of that pickle jar lid he just loosed has a cheery Cherenkov glow.


You sure that wasn't Oppenheimer? Teller wanted to make a Fusion bomb and Oppenheimer wanted to make nukes smaller for tactical use. Did Teller come around?
 
2018-01-02 01:07:25 PM  
Not

vygramul: Public Call Box: Remember that Teller is also the only human being who looked at a Nuke and saw a Swiss Army Knife. Need to bore through a mountain? Use a Nuke. Need to get a space vessel into high orbit? Use a Nuke. Need to dredge out a bay? Use a Nuke.

That doesn't make him wrong about climate change, but I'd have been very suspect of that pickle jar lid he just loosed has a cheery Cherenkov glow.

You sure that wasn't Oppenheimer? Teller wanted to make a Fusion bomb and Oppenheimer wanted to make nukes smaller for tactical use. Did Teller come around?


Not from what I read. Oppenheimer had some regrets after making the bomb, but Teller became a god-damned cultist for nuclear reactions.
 
2018-01-02 01:13:27 PM  

I want that sauce Morty!: I once looked into the history of sci-fi as a genre, and there was a book in the really early 19th century, something like the 1820s, that speculated industrialization causing global temperatures to rise and melting the ice caps. I thought it was kind of weird since whoever wrote that didn't have any scientific data at that time to base his story on as far as I know.


That is odd. The first scientific estimate of the effects of increasing CO2 was in a 1896 paper by Arrhenius. And he based his work on observations from 1880 to 1891 using an instrument not invented until 1878.
 
2018-01-02 05:01:46 PM  

vygramul: Public Call Box: Remember that Teller is also the only human being who looked at a Nuke and saw a Swiss Army Knife. Need to bore through a mountain? Use a Nuke. Need to get a space vessel into high orbit? Use a Nuke. Need to dredge out a bay? Use a Nuke.

That doesn't make him wrong about climate change, but I'd have been very suspect of that pickle jar lid he just loosed has a cheery Cherenkov glow.

You sure that wasn't Oppenheimer? Teller wanted to make a Fusion bomb and Oppenheimer wanted to make nukes smaller for tactical use. Did Teller come around?


Well, there was the Teller Stovepipe, which was essentially a single-use nuclear laser beam. My favorite Teller story is during the Manhattan Project tests, there was at least some fear that they would ignite the atmosphere and kill everybody on earth. Teller apparently made money by wagering that they wouldn't.
 
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