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2018-01-01 10:08:07 PM  
I picture Hillary making this gesture on a daily basis
 
2018-01-02 01:29:01 AM  
If it doesn't work out as defense minister, he should try car sales, he's got the fashion sense for it.
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2018-01-02 01:30:02 AM  
Right... let's piss off another country with nukes.
 
2018-01-02 01:32:39 AM  
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2018-01-02 01:36:03 AM  
Oh it's the meat spin, isn't it
 
2018-01-02 01:37:03 AM  

Madman drummers bummers: Right... let's piss off another country with nukes.


I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't know that Pakistan and India both have nukes.

/Probably the only thing keeping those 2 countries from having a massive war
 
2018-01-02 01:37:58 AM  

delciotto: Madman drummers bummers: Right... let's piss off another country with nukes.

I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't know that Pakistan and India both have nukes.

/Probably the only thing keeping those 2 countries from having a massive war


sounds like a good argument for proliferation
 
2018-01-02 01:39:02 AM  
I really... /really/ hate to be in the position of defending anything that Agent Orange says, but is it possible he stumbled across some kind of a point?  Wasn't Bin Laden's compound within spitting distance of a Pakistani military facility of some kind?  I thought there was a stink over some kind of tacit approval from Islamabad on the whole thing.

Please, if I'm wrong, let me know.
 
2018-01-02 01:42:08 AM  

Plant Rights Activist: delciotto: Madman drummers bummers: Right... let's piss off another country with nukes.

I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't know that Pakistan and India both have nukes.

/Probably the only thing keeping those 2 countries from having a massive war

sounds like a good argument for proliferation


Game theory states that unless you can guarantee (literally 100% probability? a debilitating first strike against a nuclear armed opponent, it is a bad decision to launch a first strike.

Therefore proliferation would increase peace at the national level. On the other hand, it would increase subversive maneuvers that would preclude a first strike. For example, using infiltration techniques and terrorism.

Now, if nukes fall into the hands of a death cult...all bets are off. This is the counter-argument for proliferation in that part of the world...
 
2018-01-02 01:42:23 AM  
Tillerson seen breaking out his shiat-cleaning gloves again.
 
2018-01-02 01:45:17 AM  
Is Khurram Dastgir Khan gonna have to choke a b*tch?
 
2018-01-02 01:47:23 AM  
Goddammit, why do people continue misusing commas like the one in the headline? WRONG! Where did you learn that?
 
2018-01-02 01:48:06 AM  
Okay, so the current batch of Pakistanis ruling their homeland are a bunch of farkwits. But they are the very same bunch of farkwits who have the capability to nuke India. Getting India nuked would be Very Bad. Trump best keep his tallywhacker out of that mess, IMHO.
 
2018-01-02 01:51:52 AM  

The Green Intern: I really... /really/ hate to be in the position of defending anything that Agent Orange says, but is it possible he stumbled across some kind of a point?  Wasn't Bin Laden's compound within spitting distance of a Pakistani military facility of some kind?  I thought there was a stink over some kind of tacit approval from Islamabad on the whole thing.

Please, if I'm wrong, let me know.


He was hiding less than a kilometer from Pakistan's version of West Point.  Not just any military facility.
 
2018-01-02 01:59:19 AM  

The Green Intern: I really... /really/ hate to be in the position of defending anything that Agent Orange says, but is it possible he stumbled across some kind of a point?  Wasn't Bin Laden's compound within spitting distance of a Pakistani military facility of some kind?  I thought there was a stink over some kind of tacit approval from Islamabad on the whole thing.

Please, if I'm wrong, let me know.


They've been awfully treacherous for so called allies
 
2018-01-02 02:01:52 AM  

The Green Intern: I really... /really/ hate to be in the position of defending anything that Agent Orange says, but is it possible he stumbled across some kind of a point?  Wasn't Bin Laden's compound within spitting distance of a Pakistani military facility of some kind?  I thought there was a stink over some kind of tacit approval from Islamabad on the whole thing.

Please, if I'm wrong, let me know.


apply and oranges.. yes it is quite likely the ISI or at last a few individuals may have known about OBL hiding 'in country' but what has that got anything to do with trump's tweet from couple days ago? Lol

Keep in mind that the Pakistan military has killed more terrorists than all of US and her allies combined.
Fighting radical Islamic terrorism is an extremely complicated endevour..10000x more complicated than fighting drug wars and drug cartels ... and yet even at those small levels the FBI and CIA for example often do things that are counter to each other... often unbeknownst to even POTUS himself,
 
2018-01-02 02:02:02 AM  
"We'll cut off your funding!"

"That's fine.  We'll just wait to speak to whoever your successor is in a few months."
 
2018-01-02 02:03:49 AM  
FTA: "Foreign Minister Khawaja Muhammad Asif said in an interview on Geo television that the country is ready to publicly provide an accounting of "every detail" of U.S. aid it has received."

Hey that's pretty nice. Can we get our own Defense Dept. to do something like that, accurately?
 
2018-01-02 02:09:16 AM  

janzee: FTA: "Foreign Minister Khawaja Muhammad Asif said in an interview on Geo television that the country is ready to publicly provide an accounting of "every detail" of U.S. aid it has received."

Hey that's pretty nice. Can we get our own Defense Dept. to do something like that, accurately?


No.
 
2018-01-02 02:20:57 AM  

The Green Intern: I really... /really/ hate to be in the position of defending anything that Agent Orange says, but is it possible he stumbled across some kind of a point?  Wasn't Bin Laden's compound within spitting distance of a Pakistani military facility of some kind?  I thought there was a stink over some kind of tacit approval from Islamabad on the whole thing.

Please, if I'm wrong, let me know.


Pakistans intelligence agency the isi has been accused of sheltering the Taliban and ALquida for years as they plan to use them in a proxy war against india

That being said something happened a few months ago that signaled India is tired of Pakistan. Something about a border shooting that killed Indian soldiers

Expect things to get interesting
 
2018-01-02 02:52:56 AM  

The Green Intern: Wasn't Bin Laden's compound within spitting distance of a Pakistani military facility of some kind?


A Pakistani born co-worker told me the area they found Bin Laden was a very exclusive neighborhood that was for military officers and their families.  The kind of neighborhood that requires permission to live in.  He said there was no farking way they didn't know he was there.
 
2018-01-02 02:54:39 AM  

Fano: The Green Intern: I really... /really/ hate to be in the position of defending anything that Agent Orange says, but is it possible he stumbled across some kind of a point?  Wasn't Bin Laden's compound within spitting distance of a Pakistani military facility of some kind?  I thought there was a stink over some kind of tacit approval from Islamabad on the whole thing.

Please, if I'm wrong, let me know.

They've been awfully treacherous for so called allies


Yes, but we send them billions in free military aid, so it's ok.
 
2018-01-02 02:59:35 AM  

cyberspacedout: Goddammit, why do people continue misusing commas like the one in the headline? WRONG! Where did you learn that?


Have to agree with you on that one. Typo maybe??
 
2018-01-02 03:27:52 AM  

doosh: cyberspacedout: Goddammit, why do people continue misusing commas like the one in the headline? WRONG! Where did you learn that?

Have to agree with you on that one. Typo maybe??


No, Communist  Islamist plot.
 
2018-01-02 03:41:18 AM  

doosh: cyberspacedout: Goddammit, why do people continue misusing commas like the one in the headline? WRONG! Where did you learn that?

Have to agree with you on that one. Typo maybe??


I've seen it every so often during the last few years. People inexplicably insert a comma right in between the subject and the verb in a sentence. What I wonder is whether it comes from speakers of a foreign language with vastly different grammatical rules, or if it comes from this country's millennial generation raised with our rapidly decaying public education standards.

By now, the mods should have seen enough submissions to correct such mistakes. Then again, I suppose rants like mine are entertaining. I hope they are, at least.
 
2018-01-02 03:54:42 AM  
"The US has given us nothing but invective and mistrust and billions of dollars."  FTFY

Meanwhile A.Q. Khan, a principal researcher in Pakistan's nuclear program, was selling the technology far and wide, including to Iran, North Korea, and Libya.  He was pardoned in 2004, and was allowed to travel freely after 2009.

Meanwhile Bin Laden was chilling out in a walled compound less than a mile from the Pakistani Military Academy, in a suburb full of retired military types.  But nobody saw anything, and nobody heard anything, and everyone was shocked... SHOCKED to learn that there was gambling Bin Laden in that building.

Meanwhile the Pakistani intelligence agency ISI funded and trained the Taliban in Pakistan.

Some allies they are.  But what's the alternative?  Stop bribing their military, increasing the odds of an Iran-style islamist revolt in a nuclear armed country?  Sounds like something Trump would do...
 
2018-01-02 05:09:41 AM  

Fano: The Green Intern: I really... /really/ hate to be in the position of defending anything that Agent Orange says, but is it possible he stumbled across some kind of a point?  Wasn't Bin Laden's compound within spitting distance of a Pakistani military facility of some kind?  I thought there was a stink over some kind of tacit approval from Islamabad on the whole thing.

Please, if I'm wrong, let me know.

They've been awfully treacherous for so called allies


Not super trustworthy like us. Just ask the Israelis how we can be trusted with intel. Or our long term ally Saddam.
 
2018-01-02 05:57:11 AM  

The Green Intern: I really... /really/ hate to be in the position of defending anything that Agent Orange says, but is it possible he stumbled across some kind of a point?  Wasn't Bin Laden's compound within spitting distance of a Pakistani military facility of some kind?  I thought there was a stink over some kind of tacit approval from Islamabad on the whole thing.

Please, if I'm wrong, let me know.


The basic argument, as I understand it, is that while Pakistan's government is by no means good, what would replace them would be far worse.

Worse than that, if Pakistan collapses, a whole bunch of nukes will likely find their way on the the black market.
 
2018-01-02 06:42:17 AM  

Madman drummers bummers: Right... let's piss off another country with nukes.


That has a common border with Iran...
 
2018-01-02 07:07:50 AM  
Whether the cheeto has a point or not, the fact that he's making major political decisions/announcements via Twitter is astounding.
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2018-01-02 07:22:58 AM  

The Green Intern: I really... /really/ hate to be in the position of defending anything that Agent Orange says, but is it possible he stumbled across some kind of a point?  Wasn't Bin Laden's compound within spitting distance of a Pakistani military facility of some kind?  I thought there was a stink over some kind of tacit approval from Islamabad on the whole thing.

Please, if I'm wrong, let me know.


Pakistan is a hotbed of factionalism and sectarianism. Its government has to juggle different interests. Go too far one way and you risk a coup. Go too far another and there could be an uprising. It makes our politics in stable democracies look like tiddlywinks.

I wouldn't be surprised if they were secretly pleased the US found bin Laden through its own intelligence efforts and military action. Had Pakistan given him up themselves, not only would they have risked blowback of the prolonged and explosive kind, they would have looked like American lapdogs even to moderates. Also word might have got to bin Laden through some sympathiser in the Pakistani government. But the way it went down meant they could disavow knowledge of US activities and even assert independence by protesting the action on their soil.
 
OOF
2018-01-02 07:36:29 AM  
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2018-01-02 08:12:59 AM  
Two different people............... or one and the same?

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2018-01-02 08:25:23 AM  
His tweets only matter to his base on Facebook and Twitter. He is just telling them he still understands their backwards, isolationist, xenophobic mess of failed public education. And that nothing solves problems like chest thumping. All is well, base.

Right now there are brass-level American officers sitting in enduring Pakistan/US bases explaining this "locker room talk" with their Pakistani counterparts over glasses of cognac.
 
2018-01-02 08:43:51 AM  
To which Trump replied 'What does that mean?'
 
2018-01-02 08:56:41 AM  

Cpl.D: "We'll cut off your funding!"

"That's fine.  We'll just wait to speak to whoever your successor is in a few months."


You mean Pence? I don't think that'll help.
 
2018-01-02 09:44:52 AM  
"Keep your friends close; keep your enemies closer." Trump is no Michael Corleone. He's not even a half-rate Fredo... "Fredo has a good heart, but he is weak... and stupid, and this is life and death ..."
 
2018-01-02 10:06:00 AM  
Ah, the old Shawinigan handshake

/Canadians will get it.
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2018-01-02 10:33:59 AM  
Pakistan, your women are beautiful and pleasantly fragrant, with notes of jasmine, lavender and spice, but your politics are deceitful.
 
2018-01-02 11:03:40 AM  

ColonelCathcart: Plant Rights Activist: delciotto: Madman drummers bummers: Right... let's piss off another country with nukes.

I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't know that Pakistan and India both have nukes.

/Probably the only thing keeping those 2 countries from having a massive war

sounds like a good argument for proliferation

Game theory states that unless you can guarantee (literally 100% probability? a debilitating first strike against a nuclear armed opponent, it is a bad decision to launch a first strike.

Therefore proliferation would increase peace at the national level. On the other hand, it would increase subversive maneuvers that would preclude a first strike. For example, using infiltration techniques and terrorism.

Now, if nukes fall into the hands of a death cult...all bets are off. This is the counter-argument for proliferation in that part of the world...


Yeah game theory requires rational actors. Unsure how rational president Orange is or Supreme leader Chubby for that matter either.
 
2018-01-02 12:33:01 PM  
God Bless Donald Trump
(fark Pakistan ... a lot)
 
2018-01-02 03:12:13 PM  

ColonelCathcart: Now, if nukes fall into the hands of a death cult...all bets are off. This is the counter-argument for proliferation in that part of the world...


Exactly how many times were you dropped on your head when you were little?
 
2018-01-02 04:10:26 PM  
Trump, No one has done so much for this country sense Benedict Arnold.
 
2018-01-02 08:40:05 PM  
Hahaha.   Pakistan.  Looking good, team.   Keep it up.
 
2018-01-03 12:54:36 AM  
Pakistan has ever been our friend and ally.
 
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