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2018-01-01 05:34:52 PM  
Oh man I should go buy some sugar.
 
2018-01-01 05:44:19 PM  

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: Oh man I should go buy some sugar.


Rail it off a hookers ass. Its the only way.
 
2018-01-01 06:10:49 PM  
Simpsons did it.

Disco Stu - Hooked on the white stuff back in the 70's
Youtube P_Hyn82Q1So
 
2018-01-01 06:22:59 PM  
Brain on Drugs | Robot Chicken | Adult Swim
Youtube k4H517oi7pU
 
2018-01-01 06:30:29 PM  
They found that the volunteers who regularly ate a high-fat, high-sugar diet were much more likely to crave snack foods even when they weren't hungry.


This article was so full of youdontsay!.jpg and ended with go meditate on how you can eat less sugar.

With some hippocampus thrown in with the rhinocampus and ratresearchcampus.

It really made me feel the researchers are decades behind common sense with all the crap about we don't know if our rat studies really transfer over to humans. Thank God we don't have to listen to them and the folks on FARK who say that studies show no difference between sugar and high fructose corn syrup.
 
2018-01-01 06:32:36 PM  
Speaking of which... I made a couple of dozen chocolate chip cookies with chopped hazelnuts and it's time to break out the milk.
 
2018-01-01 06:41:49 PM  
Quick question: should complex carbs be avoided, or just sugar? How about fructose found in fruits and vegetables?
 
2018-01-01 06:51:01 PM  

Kevin72: common sense


Common sense is pretty terrible if you don't check the results. Hence science.
 
2018-01-01 06:51:09 PM  
I predict this thread will be full of Fark edgelords who will assure us that being worried about excessive sugar consumption is stupid.  Stupid, I tell you!
 
2018-01-01 07:01:42 PM  
System Of A Down - Sugar
Youtube 5vBGOrI6yBk

/ In the end it all goes away
// I'm surprised I'm the one who had to bring this up.
/// Threes just to make it right.
 
2018-01-01 07:12:14 PM  
Your brain is incapable of metabolizing anything other than sugar . . . your brain without sugar is dead.
 
2018-01-01 07:23:03 PM  

knobmaker: I predict this thread will be full of Fark edgelords who will assure us that being worried about excessive sugar consumption is stupid.  Stupid, I tell you!


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2018-01-01 07:35:41 PM  
waterboy medulla oblongata
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2018-01-01 07:39:47 PM  

UsikFark: Kevin72: common sense

Common sense is pretty terrible if you don't check the results. Hence science.


I mean common sense as in avoid sugar like the plague and not wait to see if what they found out about rats applies to humans.
 
2018-01-01 07:45:59 PM  

SurfaceTension: Quick question: should complex carbs be avoided, or just sugar? How about fructose found in fruits and vegetables?


The studies were about added sugar and high sugar diets. Carbs and fructose aren't as bad because they take longer to break down than say sucrose. But you still should be consuming what you can burn more or less.
 
2018-01-01 07:49:49 PM  

Kevin72: UsikFark: Kevin72: common sense

Common sense is pretty terrible if you don't check the results. Hence science.

I mean common sense as in avoid sugar like the plague and not wait to see if what they found out about rats applies to humans.


Don't have to wait.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnni​u​a6-oM
 
2018-01-01 07:55:27 PM  

SurfaceTension: Quick question: should complex carbs be avoided, or just sugar? How about fructose found in fruits and vegetables?


There's differing opinions. It's looking like the generally optimal diet for humans is 20-25 net carbs per day or less with 0 added sugar if you can swing it. The rest is fats and proteins. I try to eat one serving of whole grain pasta or brown rice. I know people who avoid that, too. Shrug.

Oh and if you're eating 100% fresh, you need to salt your food. It's a vital electrolyte that you literally need to be alive.

/net carbs means subtract fiber and sugar alcohols
//some folk say skip the sugar alcohols as well....i don't really pay attention to that, but evidently i'm also one of the strange ones who doesn't crave sweet flavors
 
2018-01-01 07:56:56 PM  
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2018-01-01 08:07:33 PM  

SurfaceTension: Quick question: should complex carbs be avoided, or just sugar? How about fructose found in fruits and vegetables?


The issue is with processed sugar that is added to foods.

Basically, avoid anything that comes sealed in plastic.
 
2018-01-01 08:12:25 PM  
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2018-01-01 08:12:44 PM  
Been told by a doctor that I respond to sugar as if it was a drug. I get a high off of it, and can really understand the addiction angle.
 
2018-01-01 08:14:23 PM  
So high fat, high sugar diets lead to poor decision making and weak memories as well as obesity?  Interesting.  Let's take a look at obesity levels by state, using CDC data.

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Why, what a coincidence!  The states in the worst three categories (bright red, brick red, and bright orange) all voted for Trump.   But I'm sure that has nothing to do with the bad diets makes you stupid thing.
 
2018-01-01 08:14:36 PM  

NotARocketScientist: Been told by a doctor that I respond to sugar as if it was a drug. I get a high off of it, and can really understand the addiction angle.


Dr. Robert? Dr. Feelgood?
 
2018-01-01 08:20:56 PM  

thornhill: SurfaceTension: Quick question: should complex carbs be avoided, or just sugar? How about fructose found in fruits and vegetables?

The issue is with processed sugar that is added to foods.  Basically, avoid anything that comes sealed in plastic.


Try to avoid anything that lists sugar or one of the artificial sweeteners as an ingredient can take you a long way.  Artificial sweeteners should be avoided because they make you body crave sugar to burn off all the insulin it produced after the sweetener fooled it into thinking it had consumed sugar.
 
2018-01-01 08:30:18 PM  
And this is my 7 year old'so brain on sugar :

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2018-01-01 08:50:52 PM  
Stanley Turrentine Sextet - Sugar
Youtube oLaIrVB1av4
 
2018-01-01 09:06:04 PM  

Arthen: Your brain is incapable of metabolizing anything other than sugar . . . your brain without sugar is dead.


Your brain prefers ketone bodies and will use them instead of glucose if they're available.
 
2018-01-01 09:09:23 PM  
However, your body will make sugar out of protein if it has to, and will make some out of glycerol and glucogenic amino acids to keep up appearances, even if you're running off of ketone bodies.
 
2018-01-01 09:33:30 PM  

Arthen: Your brain is incapable of metabolizing anything other than sugar . . . your brain without sugar is dead.


The body is perfectly capable of reducing macronutrients into component parts and then remetabolizing them into more useful bits. Don't confuse table sugar for brain food.

erewhon: Arthen: Your brain is incapable of metabolizing anything other than sugar . . . your brain without sugar is dead.

Your brain prefers ketone bodies and will use them instead of glucose if they're available.


That's the truth.
 
2018-01-01 09:38:03 PM  
Sugar - Hoover Dam (1992)
Youtube rBqZHPTCV58
 
2018-01-01 09:41:20 PM  

SurfaceTension: Quick question: should complex carbs be avoided, or just sugar? How about fructose found in fruits and vegetables?


Oh btw nobody ever got fat on account of huge bowls of broccoli.
 
2018-01-01 09:48:08 PM  

Arthen: Your brain is incapable of metabolizing anything other than sugar . . . your brain without sugar is dead.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti​c​les/PMC2874681/

"The brain is dependent on glucose as a primary energy substrate, but is capable of utilizing ketones such as β-hydroxybutyrate (βHB) and acetoacetate (AcAc), as occurs with fasting, prolonged starvation or chronic feeding of a high fat/low carbohydrate diet (ketogenic diet) "
 
2018-01-01 09:52:24 PM  

casual disregard: SurfaceTension: Quick question: should complex carbs be avoided, or just sugar? How about fructose found in fruits and vegetables?

Oh btw nobody ever got fat on account of huge bowls of broccoli.


People eat broccoli without butter?

/or Blue Cheese/Ranch dressing?
 
2018-01-01 09:57:36 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: casual disregard: SurfaceTension: Quick question: should complex carbs be avoided, or just sugar? How about fructose found in fruits and vegetables?

Oh btw nobody ever got fat on account of huge bowls of broccoli.

People eat broccoli without butter?

/or Blue Cheese/Ranch dressing?


Butter is fine. I'm actually a fan of lard.

On what universe would Ranch be ok?
 
2018-01-01 10:04:09 PM  

casual disregard: Vlad_the_Inaner: casual disregard: SurfaceTension: Quick question: should complex carbs be avoided, or just sugar? How about fructose found in fruits and vegetables?

Oh btw nobody ever got fat on account of huge bowls of broccoli.

People eat broccoli without butter?

/or Blue Cheese/Ranch dressing?

Butter is fine. I'm actually a fan of lard.

On what universe would Ranch be ok?


It's a crudite dip thing.

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2018-01-01 10:06:12 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: casual disregard: Vlad_the_Inaner: casual disregard: SurfaceTension: Quick question: should complex carbs be avoided, or just sugar? How about fructose found in fruits and vegetables? Oh btw nobody ever got fat on account of huge bowls of broccoli. People eat broccoli without butter? /or Blue Cheese/Ranch dressing? Butter is fine. I'm actually a fan of lard. On what universe would Ranch be ok? It's a crudite dip thing. [img.fark.net image 850x637][View Full Size image _x_]


is this organic #2 | Rick and Morty
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2018-01-01 11:05:24 PM  

toejam: NotARocketScientist: Been told by a doctor that I respond to sugar as if it was a drug. I get a high off of it, and can really understand the addiction angle.

Dr. Robert? Dr. Feelgood?


Ladytron - Sugar
Youtube TfiXk-g3UdU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81zi​Yf​OYS5o
 
2018-01-01 11:16:18 PM  

LewDux: toejam: NotARocketScientist: Been told by a doctor that I respond to sugar as if it was a drug. I get a high off of it, and can really understand the addiction angle.

Dr. Robert? Dr. Feelgood?

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/TfiXk-g3​UdU]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81ziYf​OYS5o


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2018-01-01 11:39:26 PM  
 
2018-01-02 12:24:31 AM  

erewhon: Your brain prefers ketone bodies and will use them instead of glucose if they're available.


No, ketones are used only with the interest in conserving glucose, the brain doesn't "prefer" anything.
 
2018-01-02 01:50:00 AM  
No "The Fly" references?
Or Sugar Lumps from flight of the concord?

/ leaves disappointed
 
2018-01-02 03:43:04 AM  
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I see the standard ketone vs glucose argument has been run. But I thought it was red blood cells that required glucose even after the brain switched to ketones? I saw an advertisement for a BHB supplement a few minutes ago, which might be impressive since other reports I have about drinking raw ketones invoke acidic diesel fuel in the description.
 
2018-01-02 06:07:39 AM  
"Sugar could be a gateway to hard drugs, study says ."
Study has never tried to Diet whilst working in a kitchen.
 
2018-01-02 09:16:40 AM  

Arthen: erewhon: Your brain prefers ketone bodies and will use them instead of glucose if they're available.

No, ketones are used only with the interest in conserving glucose, the brain doesn't "prefer" anything.


One shouldn't anthropomorphize brains, they hate it when you do that.
 
2018-01-02 10:18:18 AM  

2wolves: Speaking of which... I made a couple of dozen chocolate chip cookies with chopped hazelnuts and it's time to break out the milk.


Chocolate chip and Heath Bar cookies here.
 
2018-01-02 12:19:52 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: Arthen: erewhon: Your brain prefers ketone bodies and will use them instead of glucose if they're available.

No, ketones are used only with the interest in conserving glucose, the brain doesn't "prefer" anything.

One shouldn't anthropomorphize brains, they hate it when you do that.


Given both as part of their daily breakfast, neurons'll use the ketones preferentially, if you prefer that phrasing.
 
2018-01-02 12:24:17 PM  
Arthen:

Your brain is incapable of metabolizing anything other than sugar ...
No, ketones are used only ...


Didn't you say that neurons couldn't use anything except glucose? Not only can they use ketones, they can metabolize fatty acids. They don't use them preferentially though.
 
2018-01-02 12:40:57 PM  
wildcardjack:
But I thought it was red blood cells that required glucose even after the brain switched to ketones?

They don't have mitochondria, so they have to use anaerobic glycolysis, which requires the glyco part to lyse.

I saw an advertisement for a BHB supplement a few minutes ago, which might be impressive since other reports I have about drinking raw ketones invoke acidic diesel fuel in the description.

That shiat's nasty. And it doesn't help. BTW, your liver won't use ketone bodies either because hepatic cells lack an enzyme to do so. They can use fatty acids, though.
 
2018-01-02 12:49:02 PM  

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I see the standard ketone vs glucose argument has been run.


It's not like your blood glucose goes to zero, or really, even to a level you'd normally consider to be moderately hypoglycemic in most people on dietary ketosis.

That's because when you start breaking down fat to make ketones, you're going to have a comparative lot of leftover glycerol. With the glucose levels starting to sag, and insulin down, ketones up, your liver and kidneys will get the idea you're not GOING to eat some pie, and will turn that glycerol into glucose, albeit a bit inefficiently. If there's not enough glycerol, they'll start converting glucogenic amino acids.
 
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