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(The Wrap)   For the first time in six decades, the three top-grossing movies of the year all had female leads   ( thewrap.com) divider line
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2018-01-01 10:03:31 AM  
It's their turn.
 
2018-01-01 10:25:29 AM  
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2018-01-01 10:29:37 AM  
This is cool!
 
2018-01-01 10:30:45 AM  
I had forgotten about Beauty and the Beast and I saw it.
 
2018-01-01 10:34:48 AM  
I noticed this the other day. Seems like most of the good movies I saw this year were about the ladies.
 
2018-01-01 10:36:15 AM  
And so did the top three pornos.
 
2018-01-01 10:36:37 AM  
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So yeah, as a self-identified leftist, who invents problems in order to provide myself with an excuse for making a fuss, you'd think I'd be happy right now, and I would no longer have a reason to complain.  But let's be honest here, every female lead that gets to the top of the box office is an animal who has lost their place in history.

Back in the 1990s, Air Bud showed us that dogs could be more than companions.  They could play basketball.  They could catch a football.  They could even play volleyball.  Think about the incredible work these movies did to bring dogs into the popular consciousness.  One could even say that, thanks to these movies, dogs are now man's best friend.

But what was the last time you saw a Hollywood movie about a cat or a goldfish or a stink beetle get to the top of the box office?  And don't give me that crap about those animated films, those are cartoons, they're not real.  The fact is that there is a real and genuine prejudice in Hollywood against our animal friends and you fell for their trap.

If you are a Hollywood type, then the profits are pretty goddamn obvious.  There are probably close to a half-billion dogs on this planet.  You get ten percent of them to buy a movie ticket and you have one of the biggest movies of the year on your hands.  Enough is enough.
 
2018-01-01 10:39:31 AM  
Hopefully studios will realise that there is no problem with female lead movies, just with bad female lead movies.
As always, XKCD covers it.
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A movie starring a man flops, well it was just a bad film. A film with a female lead flops, well that proves it, audiences just don't like movies with a girl as the star.
 
2018-01-01 10:39:42 AM  
Has anyone officially asked them all if they for certain identify as female?  If not, we can't know if the movies have female leads.  It's 2018 people, stop assuming gender, or orientation, or race, or chemical structure, or species......
 
2018-01-01 10:39:44 AM  
Huh. A Porg could have been the lead character in the Star Wars movie and it would still have made the most money.
 
2018-01-01 10:40:37 AM  

AmbassadorBooze: Has anyone officially asked them all if they for certain identify as female?  If not, we can't know if the movies have female leads.  It's 2018 people, stop assuming gender, or orientation, or race, or chemical structure, or species......


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2018-01-01 10:45:33 AM  

Mike_LowELL: [img.fark.net image 550x50][View Full Size image _x_]

So yeah, as a self-identified leftist, who invents problems in order to provide myself with an excuse for making a fuss, you'd think I'd be happy right now, and I would no longer have a reason to complain.  But let's be honest here, every female lead that gets to the top of the box office is an animal who has lost their place in history.

Back in the 1990s, Air Bud showed us that dogs could be more than companions.  They could play basketball.  They could catch a football.  They could even play volleyball.  Think about the incredible work these movies did to bring dogs into the popular consciousness.  One could even say that, thanks to these movies, dogs are now man's best friend.

But what was the last time you saw a Hollywood movie about a cat or a goldfish or a stink beetle get to the top of the box office?  And don't give me that crap about those animated films, those are cartoons, they're not real.  The fact is that there is a real and genuine prejudice in Hollywood against our animal friends and you fell for their trap.

If you are a Hollywood type, then the profits are pretty goddamn obvious.  There are probably close to a half-billion dogs on this planet.  You get ten percent of them to buy a movie ticket and you have one of the biggest movies of the year on your hands.  Enough is enough.


Please don't ever stop fighting your fight.
 
2018-01-01 10:57:24 AM  

AmbassadorBooze: Has anyone officially asked them all if they for certain identify as female?  If not, we can't know if the movies have female leads.  It's 2018 people, stop assuming gender, or orientation, or race, or chemical structure, or species......


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2018-01-01 10:57:31 AM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: Hopefully studios will realise that there is no problem with female lead movies, just with bad female lead movies.
As always, XKCD covers it.
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A movie starring a man flops, well it was just a bad film. A film with a female lead flops, well that proves it, audiences just don't like movies with a girl as the star.


Thats just their excuse, like how the female ghostbusters failed, they ignore it was a terrible film.
 
2018-01-01 11:01:42 AM  

Hillbilly Jim: Please don't ever stop fighting your fight.


In six months, my posts will be mandatory reading material in universities all across this entire world.  Even Nietzsche will be powerless to stop it.  God is dead and I probably trolled Him.
 
2018-01-01 11:04:18 AM  
 
2018-01-01 11:04:54 AM  

Wyalt Derp: And so did the top three pornos.


Do they actually rank pornos by box office? Or do they go by ad-page popups by... minute? Am I too hungover for this train of thought?
 
2018-01-01 11:08:42 AM  
Gamergater/alt-right/trumplicker meltd​own about this in 3... 2...
 
2018-01-01 11:16:07 AM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: Hopefully studios will realise that there is no problem with female lead movies, just with bad female lead movies.
As always, XKCD covers it.
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A movie starring a man flops, well it was just a bad film. A film with a female lead flops, well that proves it, audiences just don't like movies with a girl as the star.


Frozen seemed to show they had no idea how much people were wanting a female protagonist in a well written story
 
2018-01-01 11:29:06 AM  

Mike_LowELL: Hillbilly Jim: Please don't ever stop fighting your fight.

In six months, my posts will be mandatory reading material in universities all across this entire world.  Even Nietzsche will be powerless to stop it.  God is dead and I probably trolled Him.


Dog bless you Mike_LowELL.
 
2018-01-01 11:37:02 AM  
I don't know anyone whose movie-going decision is influenced, even a little bit, by whether the lead is male or female.
 
2018-01-01 11:37:59 AM  

Fano: Carter Pewterschmidt: Hopefully studios will realise that there is no problem with female lead movies, just with bad female lead movies.
As always, XKCD covers it.
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A movie starring a man flops, well it was just a bad film. A film with a female lead flops, well that proves it, audiences just don't like movies with a girl as the star.

Frozen seemed to show they had no idea how much people were wanting a female protagonist in a well written story


And Frozen wasn't even particularly well written! It wasn't BADLY written by any means, but much like Wonder Woman, it was solid, pretty simple and straightforward and executed to near perfection. What it had going for it that puts it above Tangled in particular is that it is different enough from the expected "girls" or "female" movie that it's a great breath of fresh air.

/Has watched Frozen without the kids being present.
//on more than 1 occasion
 
2018-01-01 11:39:51 AM  

Dhusk: Gamergater/alt-right/trumplicker melt​d​own about this in 3... 2...


It's about ethics in casting. And plot. And box office tabulation.
 
2018-01-01 11:47:30 AM  
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2018-01-01 11:50:53 AM  

ebell: I don't know anyone whose movie-going decision is influenced, even a little bit, by whether the lead is male or female.


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2018-01-01 11:53:48 AM  

macadamnut: CHARLIZE THERON HAS MENSTRUATED ALL OVER MY MASCULINITY.


How much did she charge you to do that?
 
2018-01-01 11:54:43 AM  

Techhell: /Has watched Frozen without the kids being present.
//on more than 1 occasion


Elsa is sexy. I'd do Elsa.

/I'd do Anna as well. But I'd be thinking of Elsa.
 
2018-01-01 11:55:59 AM  
Meh.

True equality is when we stop having these types of stories. Until then women are the weaker species.

/I saw two of the three and it literally didn't register the lead was a female-they were just movies.
 
2018-01-01 12:13:00 PM  

Techhell: Fano: Carter Pewterschmidt: Hopefully studios will realise that there is no problem with female lead movies, just with bad female lead movies.
As always, XKCD covers it.
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A movie starring a man flops, well it was just a bad film. A film with a female lead flops, well that proves it, audiences just don't like movies with a girl as the star.

Frozen seemed to show they had no idea how much people were wanting a female protagonist in a well written story

And Frozen wasn't even particularly well written! It wasn't BADLY written by any means, but much like Wonder Woman, it was solid, pretty simple and straightforward and executed to near perfection. What it had going for it that puts it above Tangled in particular is that it is different enough from the expected "girls" or "female" movie that it's a great breath of fresh air.

/Has watched Frozen without the kids being present.
//on more than 1 occasion


I just mentioned Frozen because I remember around the time we were talking about it on Fark there was at least one article where they were falling over themselves to try to explain why it was such a success.

It became clear to me Hollywood considers "female" as a Lego brick they can pop in that automatically translates into female audience success. And why they make shiat like Elektra and Catwoman and are mystified that no one likes them, then throws their hands up and claim no one wants a "chick flick."

Compare and contrast Fury Road, Wonder Woman, and Force  Awakens to Ghostbusters And Catwoman.
 
2018-01-01 12:15:40 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: Techhell: /Has watched Frozen without the kids being present.
//on more than 1 occasion

Elsa is sexy. I'd do Elsa.
/I'd do Anna as well. But I'd be thinking of Elsa.


And now all I can think of is Kristen Bell.  (sigh)
 
2018-01-01 12:17:14 PM  
Was Elizabeth Tailor clearly the lead in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof? More than Paul Newman?
 
2018-01-01 12:19:09 PM  
Two of those are in the list of six movies I saw last year. Will probably see TLJedi next week.

/old guy
 
2018-01-01 12:27:56 PM  
Not quite. Finn is the lead in the new SW movies - he's the only character that shows both personal growth and the ability to learn, the only one who tries to make good decisions (even though the other characters keep getting in his way), and the only one who has the Lucky Gene that gets him out of the worst circumstances No Matter What. He's the normal person in the midst of all the super-powered crazies around him - the new SW movies are live-action anime, and he's the normal-person-turned-hero.
 
2018-01-01 12:37:48 PM  

macadamnut: CHARLIZE THERON HAS MENSTRUATED ALL OVER MY MASCULINITY.


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2018-01-01 12:39:01 PM  
Great news. Can they STFU about not getting opportunities now?
 
2018-01-01 12:39:08 PM  

George_Spelvin: Carter Pewterschmidt: Techhell: /Has watched Frozen without the kids being present.
//on more than 1 occasion

Elsa is sexy. I'd do Elsa.
/I'd do Anna as well. But I'd be thinking of Elsa.

And now all I can think of is Kristen Bell.  (sigh)


Here is Kristen dressed as Elsa, because her daughter insisted for Halloween.
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And I spent twenty minutes walking the picket line during the writers strike with Kristen walking three feet behind me giving an interview to a reporter. I do remember she came over as genuine and intelligent, definitely not a vacuous bimbo or a raging diva.
 
2018-01-01 12:39:26 PM  
Out of the top 20 grossing movies for 2017, 4 had a female listed as the first performer ( http://www.imdb.com/list/ls06682261​4/ ).  Odd that this article didn't mention the 50 Shades sequel as one with a female lead.
This entire line of argument stupid. Only fringe extremists care whether the lead is a woman or not - the vast majority is just looking for an enjoyable movie.
 
2018-01-01 12:48:38 PM  
I was a good year for movies passing the Bechdel test
 
2018-01-01 12:51:35 PM  
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2018-01-01 12:56:25 PM  

abhorrent1: Great news. Can they STFU about not getting opportunities now?


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2018-01-01 12:59:10 PM  
How do the know that the men who have been starring in films up until don't identify as women? Did you presume their gender?
 
2018-01-01 01:08:24 PM  
Interesting.. of the 32 films Box Office Mojo has on the all time list, that grossed over $1 Billion, 15 of them are Disney films. 8 of them are female-led (if you include animation) And 5 out of the top 10 are Disney films.
 
2018-01-01 01:09:35 PM  
Kind of a stretch to imply that Elizabeth Taylor carried "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof" with Paul Newman as a co-star.  Not to mention Burl Ives.
 
2018-01-01 01:11:24 PM  
I mean, let's face it.  I feel like we've seen every farking variety of male hero a million times.

Nerdy/Reluctant: Harry Potter, Neo, Peter Parker.
Super Boy Scout: Superman, Batman, and all the Thors and Captain Americas in between.
Dark/Antihero:  Any Jason Statham role, John Carter, Dracula Untold, etc.
Goofball frat boy: Peter Quill, Deadpool.

Lets see more ladies.  At least they're allowed to have more than one emotion.
 
2018-01-01 01:17:20 PM  

I Have An Unsponsored GIF For That: abhorrent1: Great news. Can they STFU about not getting opportunities now?

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Why are we reading this?
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2018-01-01 01:19:00 PM  
Mike_LowELL:
Back in the 1990s, Air Bud showed us that dogs could be more than companions.  They could play basketball.  They could catch a football.  They could even play volleyball.  Think about the incredible work these movies did to bring dogs into the popular consciousness.  One could even say that, thanks to these movies, dogs are now man's best friend.

Air Bud peed on my lawn. I'd rather follow James Woods on twitter than thank Air Bud.
 
2018-01-01 01:24:27 PM  

Billy Liar: Kind of a stretch to imply that Elizabeth Taylor carried "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof" with Paul Newman as a co-star.  Not to mention Burl Ives.


MENDACITY
 
2018-01-01 01:26:35 PM  

Billy Liar: Kind of a stretch to imply that Elizabeth Taylor carried "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof" with Paul Newman as a co-star.  Not to mention Burl Ives.


Or to call Gal Gadot and Daisey Ridley "money making stars". It's not possible to separate the Character and IP from the Actor right now - put any other Brit girl as Rey, Star Wars makes a billion dollars. Gal Gadot might make Wonder Woman work, but people still think she's a meh actress. For a male example, Hugh Jackman. Dude makes a mint... as Wolverine. Outside of that role he's not a reliable money making star. Same with Ryan Reynolds - outside of Deadpool, not a reliable money making star. Chris Evans? Robert Downey Jr? Chris Helmsworth? They all make enough money to justify their movies, but if the movie is meh (the Hitmans Bodyguard, for example) having Deadpool's actor doesn't help it noticeably.

 The era of the Star as the attraction for Blockbusters may be over. It likely will remain for indie movies, streaming movies, etc., but I don't think enough people go "Star is in that movie - I have to see it!" anymore.
 
2018-01-01 02:14:12 PM  

glass_ibis: Out of the top 20 grossing movies for 2017, 4 had a female listed as the first performer ( http://www.imdb.com/list/ls066822614​/ ).  Odd that this article didn't mention the 50 Shades sequel as one with a female lead.
This entire line of argument stupid. Only fringe extremists care whether the lead is a woman or not - the vast majority is just looking for an enjoyable movie.


This. I don't give two shiats of the lead, or any other role is female, male, black, white, gay straight whatever. I just want to be entertained.

I do care if it's Michael Bay. I won't watch that. Fark his spinny camera bullshiat.
 
2018-01-01 02:27:56 PM  
Season 4 of Black Mirror also delivered.

What a time to be alive!
 
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