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2017-12-31 08:09:42 PM  
...in which the Russians remember their hard-fought victory over a team of young, inexperienced college...

There were almost no dunks in the real game, but in "Going Vertical," the U.S. team seems to be throwing down monster jams on every possession. One American's slam shatters a backboard as the Soviets look on in shock ... the movie turns the U.S. men into a team full of Ivan Drago-like bruisers.

Oh.
 
2017-12-31 08:37:52 PM  
Good for them!

I always loved USA vs the Soviets - haven't cared about the Olympics since then. Even better was you had the DDR vs BRD as an undercard of sorts.

So yeah, we have tons of films like that, and they are good fun. I have no issue if they want to have their own version.

We might have been worrying about mutually assured destruction back then, but the world was a pretty stable place under US & USSR rule.
 
2017-12-31 09:04:27 PM  

gar1013: the world was a pretty stable place under US & USSR rule.


Oh boy....
 
2017-12-31 09:56:17 PM  
"DO YOU BEL---wait for it----BELIEVE IN---a moment, please---MIRACLES--not yet--YES!!"
 
2017-12-31 09:59:43 PM  

edmo: gar1013: the world was a pretty stable place under US & USSR rule.

Oh boy....


You want to disagree?

It was a very stable place compared to today.

I didn't say great. I didn't say horrible. I didn't say better. I didn't say worse. It was more stable.
 
2017-12-31 11:23:13 PM  

gar1013: edmo: gar1013: the world was a pretty stable place under US & USSR rule.

Oh boy....

You want to disagree?

It was a very stable place compared to today.

I didn't say great. I didn't say horrible. I didn't say better. I didn't say worse. It was more stable.


There was vastly more war. There was vastly more death. Odds of killing everyone on the planet were much higher. None of that seems remotely "more stable".
 
2017-12-31 11:26:09 PM  
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2017-12-31 11:27:45 PM  

gar1013: Good for them!

I always loved USA vs the Soviets - haven't cared about the Olympics since then. Even better was you had the DDR vs BRD as an undercard of sorts.

So yeah, we have tons of films like that, and they are good fun. I have no issue if they want to have their own version.

We might have been worrying about mutually assured destruction back then, but the world was a pretty stable place under US & USSR rule.


I'd love to see a movie about the Hungary -USSR matches in 1956.
 
2017-12-31 11:30:27 PM  
1980 U.S. Mens hockey team have a chuckle.
 
2017-12-31 11:31:20 PM  

meanmutton: gar1013: edmo: gar1013: the world was a pretty stable place under US & USSR rule.

Oh boy....

You want to disagree?

It was a very stable place compared to today.

I didn't say great. I didn't say horrible. I didn't say better. I didn't say worse. It was more stable.

There was vastly more war. There was vastly more death. Odds of killing everyone on the planet were much higher. None of that seems remotely "more stable".


Define vastly more war. The US has been in Afghanistan for 17 years. The Russians have entered Goergia and Ukraine. in the last decade.
 
2017-12-31 11:36:10 PM  

gar1013: edmo: gar1013: the world was a pretty stable place under US & USSR rule.

Oh boy....

You want to disagree?

It was a very stable place compared to today.

I didn't say great. I didn't say horrible. I didn't say better. I didn't say worse. It was more stable.


No. It only seems that way because history appears settled and no longer moves. Portions of the Cold War were extremely dangerous, and Vietnam was far more deadly than Afghanistan or Iraq were.
 
2017-12-31 11:44:57 PM  

meanmutton: gar1013: edmo: gar1013: the world was a pretty stable place under US & USSR rule.

Oh boy....

You want to disagree?

It was a very stable place compared to today.

I didn't say great. I didn't say horrible. I didn't say better. I didn't say worse. It was more stable.

There was vastly more war. There was vastly more death. Odds of killing everyone on the planet were much higher. None of that seems remotely "more stable".


You don't understand what stability is.

Stability comes from predictability - both in action and consequence. You know who the players are, the alliances are fixed, and the rules of engagement are clear.

The only big wildcard was the possibility of nuclear war, but both sides figured out how to avoid setting that off - instead allowing ourselves to engage in a series of proxy actions around the world that allowed for lower stakes conflicts.
 
2017-12-31 11:45:39 PM  

Hillbilly Jim: meanmutton: gar1013: edmo: gar1013: the world was a pretty stable place under US & USSR rule.

Oh boy....

You want to disagree?

It was a very stable place compared to today.

I didn't say great. I didn't say horrible. I didn't say better. I didn't say worse. It was more stable.

There was vastly more war. There was vastly more death. Odds of killing everyone on the planet were much higher. None of that seems remotely "more stable".

Define vastly more war. The US has been in Afghanistan for 17 years. The Russians have entered Goergia and Ukraine. in the last decade.


Don't forget the conflict in what was Yugoslavia.
 
2017-12-31 11:47:59 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: gar1013: edmo: gar1013: the world was a pretty stable place under US & USSR rule.

Oh boy....

You want to disagree?

It was a very stable place compared to today.

I didn't say great. I didn't say horrible. I didn't say better. I didn't say worse. It was more stable.

No. It only seems that way because history appears settled and no longer moves. Portions of the Cold War were extremely dangerous, and Vietnam was far more deadly than Afghanistan or Iraq were.


Dangerous and stable can both exist.

Dangerous and stable is being in the ring with Mike Tyson in his prime.

Dangerous and unstable is being in the ring when Mike Tyson gets all chompy.
 
2017-12-31 11:51:03 PM  

Hillbilly Jim: meanmutton: gar1013: edmo: gar1013: the world was a pretty stable place under US & USSR rule.

Oh boy....

You want to disagree?

It was a very stable place compared to today.

I didn't say great. I didn't say horrible. I didn't say better. I didn't say worse. It was more stable.

There was vastly more war. There was vastly more death. Odds of killing everyone on the planet were much higher. None of that seems remotely "more stable".

Define vastly more war. The US has been in Afghanistan for 17 years. The Russians have entered Goergia and Ukraine. in the last decade.


In 1972 alone, there were wars in Mexico, Sri Lanka, Eritrea, Bangladesh, Vietnam, Oman, Malaysia, Angola, Nicaragua, Guatamala, Spain, Sudan, and Laos, among other countries. Including Australia's involvement in Vietnam, that's war involving every continent in the world other than Antartica.

That year, the US has been in Vietnam for 17 years and in that year alone, more US servicemen were killed than in the last 5 years of the US war in Afghanistan.

Go here: https://ourworldindata.org/war-​and-pea​ce/. Humans have never lived in a time of more peace or prosperity than we do today.
 
2017-12-31 11:52:49 PM  

gar1013: meanmutton: gar1013: edmo: gar1013: the world was a pretty stable place under US & USSR rule.

Oh boy....

You want to disagree?

It was a very stable place compared to today.

I didn't say great. I didn't say horrible. I didn't say better. I didn't say worse. It was more stable.

There was vastly more war. There was vastly more death. Odds of killing everyone on the planet were much higher. None of that seems remotely "more stable".

You don't understand what stability is.

Stability comes from predictability - both in action and consequence. You know who the players are, the alliances are fixed, and the rules of engagement are clear.

The only big wildcard was the possibility of nuclear war, but both sides figured out how to avoid setting that off - instead allowing ourselves to engage in a series of proxy actions around the world that allowed for lower stakes conflicts.


The idea that war where hundreds of thousands of people die is "stable" is an odd definition of "stable".
 
2018-01-01 12:39:04 AM  
I swear to God, I thought the headline was referring to the Cincinnati Bengals' winning fourth down touchdown over the Baltimore Ravens.
 
2018-01-01 12:55:00 AM  
I have a pet conspiracy theory. The USSR and their lackeys, the Finns, agreed to tank in '80 hockey in reparation for the '72 basketball robbery.

/Doesn't matter anyway. it's all about synchronized diving and trampolining now.
 
2018-01-01 01:08:24 AM  
"The 51-50 loss broke the Americans' streak of seven-straight Olympic golds, and the U.S. team did not accept their silver medals"

That's utterly pathetic. If you agree to play, you agree to the chance that you'll lose.  If there was a compelling reason that a Soviet victory would have been illegitimate (doping, for instance, or dodgy refereeing as TFA intimates) then they should have refused to play.
 
2018-01-01 01:23:46 AM  

Reasonable Human: "The 51-50 loss broke the Americans' streak of seven-straight Olympic golds, and the U.S. team did not accept their silver medals"

That's utterly pathetic. If you agree to play, you agree to the chance that you'll lose.  If there was a compelling reason that a Soviet victory would have been illegitimate (doping, for instance, or dodgy refereeing as TFA intimates) then they should have refused to play.


They won the game. Then they won it again. Then on the thirdfinal possession, the officials helped the Ruskies win. They only agreed to play to end of regulation once.
 
2018-01-01 01:27:47 AM  
1972 Olympic Gold Medal Basketball Issues and What happened to the Medals
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2018-01-01 01:42:40 AM  

Reasonable Human: "The 51-50 loss broke the Americans' streak of seven-straight Olympic golds, and the U.S. team did not accept their silver medals"

That's utterly pathetic. If you agree to play, you agree to the chance that you'll lose.  If there was a compelling reason that a Soviet victory would have been illegitimate (doping, for instance, or dodgy refereeing as TFA intimates) then they should have refused to play.


I suggest you read up on this famous event.
 
2018-01-01 01:47:38 AM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Reasonable Human: "The 51-50 loss broke the Americans' streak of seven-straight Olympic golds, and the U.S. team did not accept their silver medals"

That's utterly pathetic. If you agree to play, you agree to the chance that you'll lose.  If there was a compelling reason that a Soviet victory would have been illegitimate (doping, for instance, or dodgy refereeing as TFA intimates) then they should have refused to play.

They won the game. Then they won it again. Then on the thirdfinal possession, the officials helped the Ruskies win. They only agreed to play to end of regulation once.


Correction twice, with wrong officiating.
 
2018-01-01 07:56:19 AM  

gar1013: edmo: gar1013: the world was a pretty stable place under US & USSR rule.

Oh boy....

You want to disagree?

It was a very stable place compared to today.

I didn't say great. I didn't say horrible. I didn't say better. I didn't say worse. It was more stable.


The passengers aboard KAL 007 would like a word with you...EXCEPT THAT THEY'RE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA OF JAPAN!
 
2018-01-01 12:57:10 PM  

Hillbilly Jim: meanmutton: gar1013: edmo: gar1013: the world was a pretty stable place under US & USSR rule.

Oh boy....

You want to disagree?

It was a very stable place compared to today.

I didn't say great. I didn't say horrible. I didn't say better. I didn't say worse. It was more stable.

There was vastly more war. There was vastly more death. Odds of killing everyone on the planet were much higher. None of that seems remotely "more stable".

Define vastly more war. The US has been in Afghanistan for 17 years. The Russians have entered Goergia and Ukraine. in the last decade.


They also entered Georgia USA, and much of the Derp South....
 
2018-01-01 06:23:33 PM  
The real game was a hard-fought battle that reflected Cold War-era passions, but the movie turns the U.S. men into a team full of Ivan Drago-like bruisers, and their coach, Missouri-born Henry Iba, is played by American actor John Savage as a demonic New Yorker who orders his guys to hurt the Reds.

No no, that's what the Canadians did in the Summit series.

Honest mistake.
 
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