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(Minneapolis Star Tribune)   Do you know the difference between Alexa and Siri? Do you even care?   ( startribune.com) divider line
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2017-12-30 08:36:03 AM  
No.
No.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2017-12-30 08:39:22 AM  
One is the software that eavesdrops on you, and the other is... the software that eavesdrops on you, I guess.
 
2017-12-30 08:45:31 AM  
Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anyone really care?

Chicago - Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is? - 7/21/1970 - Tanglewood (Official)
Youtube jgF_ycCmF18
 
2017-12-30 08:45:33 AM  
Alexa uses Amazon music and Siri uses Apple?
 
2017-12-30 08:46:24 AM  
Every night I say, "Alexa, set an alarm for 7:30 a.m.," and the speaker replies that the alarm is set. Then I say, "Alexa, set an alarm for 7:40 a.m.," so I have a backup.

Or say "Alexa, set an alarm for 7:30 every day", then you don't have to say it every night.
 
2017-12-30 08:54:20 AM  
Can either of them make me a sammich?

Then, no.
 
2017-12-30 09:00:59 AM  
I would, in fact, have to think very hard to come up with something about which I cared less.
 
2017-12-30 09:38:43 AM  

Pocket Ninja: I would, in fact, have to think very hard to come up with something about which I cared less.


The plight of the machines that make mustard bottles now that everyone is adopting the squeezy bottle paradigm?

/I'm reaching here
 
2017-12-30 09:39:38 AM  

bronyaur1: No.
No.


Pocket Ninja: I would, in fact, have to think very hard to come up with something about which I cared less.



/shortest damn Main thread in history, 'cause SO done - and done so well
 
2017-12-30 09:39:42 AM  
Alexa gives head.
Siri gives reluctant hand jobs.
 
2017-12-30 09:57:04 AM  
Alexa and Siri = bling for the "Ooh, Shiny" crowd..   and anything IoT goes with that.
 
2017-12-30 10:04:54 AM  

Man On A Mission: Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anyone really care?

[YouTube video: Chicago - Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is? - 7/21/1970 - Tanglewood (Official)]


Either 25 or 26 minutes til 4am so I'm told.
 
2017-12-30 10:06:54 AM  
It seems to me that they're both used for essentially the same thing. People ask them increasingly stupid or ridiculous questions just to get a laugh out of their response, then after getting bored with that, basically forgetting they exist.
 
2017-12-30 10:09:35 AM  
Different lawyers sue you if you try to capitalize on their trademark without a license
 
2017-12-30 10:10:26 AM  
Voice Recognition. Sure, when I got a vehicle or phone with it, I played with it, briefly. But it's impractical for me and it feels awkward. I'd rather just use the buttons or touch interface and get the job done.

/ works as a programmer
// sorry to insult "application developers" with the term "programmer"
 
2017-12-30 10:13:18 AM  
Alexa is extensible in an open fashion. I've written a couple skills for it that other people could technically use if they wanted to do some stuff with Arduino controllers and IR emitters. Siri is bullshiat that requires people to own and make use of iOS, something that offends me on every level.

The Google Assistant is unquestionably better at searching stuff than any other others, but it can't do as much on its own because fewer things support it out of the box. Cortana is the only one that I can get to be aware of files I have stored on a computer, and Amazon and Microsoft have been in talks to cooperate with their digital assistants.
 
2017-12-30 10:14:34 AM  
TL;DR - Alexa works, Siri doesn't.

ReapTheChaos: It seems to me that they're both used for essentially the same thing. People ask them increasingly stupid or ridiculous questions just to get a laugh out of their response, then after getting bored with that, basically forgetting they exist.


Nope. Mine controls my lights, can take messages to send to family across town, sets timers, controls my entertainment center (TV, Xbox, audio, Kodi), keeps my grocery and to-do lists, sets appointments, sets reminders, controls my robot vacuum, and gives me whatever data I need (weather, time, date, math, measurements, distances between towns, news, etc.)

I have two in the house, and one in the car. I don't use the one in the car that often (it's a Garmin device, and it's reliant on my phone's data connection) but the ones in the house are very useful all damn day.

I'd have it controlling my thermostat, too, if I didn't have to rely on two separate thermostats (one for heating, one for cooling. It's a dumb design that came with the house.) and had the cash to throw at a Nest for both.
 
2017-12-30 10:18:49 AM  
I'll ask my Google Assistant what is the difference between Alexis and Siri.
 
2017-12-30 10:19:11 AM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Can either of them make me a sammich?

Then, no.


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2017-12-30 10:28:24 AM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Can either of them make me a sammich?
Then, no.


As long as both of them will have sex with you, who cares?

WilderKWight: Nope. Mine controls my lights, can take messages to send to family across town, sets timers, controls my entertainment center (TV, Xbox, audio, Kodi), keeps my grocery and to-do lists, sets appointments, sets reminders, controls my robot vacuum, and gives me whatever data I need (weather, time, date, math, measurements, distances between towns, news, etc.)
I have two in the house, and one in the car. I don't use the one in the car that often (it's a Garmin device, and it's reliant on my phone's data connection) but the ones in the house are very useful all damn day.
I'd have it controlling my thermostat, too, if I didn't have to rely on two separate thermostats (one for heating, one for cooling. It's a dumb design that came with the house.) and had the cash to throw at a Nest for both.


I don't know that I'd go around bragging about dependent I am on machines to take care of all my daily activities. That doesn't make you any smarterr; it just makes you less competent and more helpless. It's kind of like a co-dependent relationship with your shiny little box.

which is just the way the corporations want it.
 
2017-12-30 11:07:25 AM  
Alexa has the Shinnig
 
2017-12-30 11:23:33 AM  

cryinoutloud: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Can either of them make me a sammich?
Then, no.

As long as both of them will have sex with you, who cares?

WilderKWight: Nope. Mine controls my lights, can take messages to send to family across town, sets timers, controls my entertainment center (TV, Xbox, audio, Kodi), keeps my grocery and to-do lists, sets appointments, sets reminders, controls my robot vacuum, and gives me whatever data I need (weather, time, date, math, measurements, distances between towns, news, etc.)
I have two in the house, and one in the car. I don't use the one in the car that often (it's a Garmin device, and it's reliant on my phone's data connection) but the ones in the house are very useful all damn day.
I'd have it controlling my thermostat, too, if I didn't have to rely on two separate thermostats (one for heating, one for cooling. It's a dumb design that came with the house.) and had the cash to throw at a Nest for both.

I don't know that I'd go around bragging about dependent I am on machines to take care of all my daily activities. That doesn't make you any smarterr; it just makes you less competent and more helpless. It's kind of like a co-dependent relationship with your shiny little box.

which is just the way the corporations want it.


Or it could be a boon to an aging population that may be having increasing trouble going downstairs to turn on the porch light or adjust the thermostat every time.

My dad is having surgery in a couple weeks and will be laid up for weeks, and won't always have someone there. I set things up so he can control lights, climate and even notify him if someone pulls into the driveway. He also likes being able to just call out for an audiobook now and again.

I know, as with any technology there will be folks so edgy online that they'd no more have one than they'd have a television, but...
 
2017-12-30 11:49:34 AM  
Well, they can both be pretty catty:

Siri vs Alexa
Youtube f_1dhKsELzs
 
2017-12-30 12:07:35 PM  
Alexa - a mechanism from Amazon to take more of your money faster

Siri - a mechanism from Apple to take more of your money faster
 
2017-12-30 12:07:38 PM  
I used the voice commands on my last phone (some Galaxy thing) when I did pizza delivery because I was usually walking around holding a bunch of stuff or driving at any given time and generally in a hurry. The damn thing would fark up single-digit addresses because it would render numbers less than 10 in written form, and Google maps can't handle "nine main street" as input. I imagine that's been fixed by now. But I can't say I see a reason for using it around the house unless you're some old fart and it makes you feel like you're on the goddamned Starship Enterprise because you can change the channel vocally.

Voice recognition has come a long way though. My NY accent is almost comical and 5-10 years ago I'd have to make bad attempts at altering my speech if I wanted to play around with the technology, now I can speak normally and everything's fine.
 
2017-12-30 12:37:04 PM  

cryinoutloud: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Can either of them make me a sammich?
Then, no.

As long as both of them will have sex with you, who cares?

WilderKWight: Nope. Mine controls my lights, can take messages to send to family across town, sets timers, controls my entertainment center (TV, Xbox, audio, Kodi), keeps my grocery and to-do lists, sets appointments, sets reminders, controls my robot vacuum, and gives me whatever data I need (weather, time, date, math, measurements, distances between towns, news, etc.)
I have two in the house, and one in the car. I don't use the one in the car that often (it's a Garmin device, and it's reliant on my phone's data connection) but the ones in the house are very useful all damn day.
I'd have it controlling my thermostat, too, if I didn't have to rely on two separate thermostats (one for heating, one for cooling. It's a dumb design that came with the house.) and had the cash to throw at a Nest for both.

I don't know that I'd go around bragging about dependent I am on machines to take care of all my daily activities. That doesn't make you any smarterr; it just makes you less competent and more helpless. It's kind of like a co-dependent relationship with your shiny little box.

which is just the way the corporations want it.


Can we then assume you use one of these to wash your clothes:

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2017-12-30 12:53:41 PM  
Both were developed by the NSA, correct?
 
2017-12-30 12:56:41 PM  

likefunbutnot:  Siri is bullshiat that requires people to own and make use of iOS,


I find it hard to believe that Apple, of all companies, would force you to use their shiat. Consider my flabber to be properly gasted.
 
2017-12-30 01:02:42 PM  
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Siri

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Alexa
 
2017-12-30 01:17:11 PM  
I use Siri while driving; it will read aloud and reply to text messages, or open and shuffle an Apple Music playlist.

That's about it.

Voice recognition works pretty well for those tasks.
 
2017-12-30 02:42:44 PM  

maxheck: cryinoutloud: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Can either of them make me a sammich?
Then, no.

As long as both of them will have sex with you, who cares?

WilderKWight: Nope. Mine controls my lights, can take messages to send to family across town, sets timers, controls my entertainment center (TV, Xbox, audio, Kodi), keeps my grocery and to-do lists, sets appointments, sets reminders, controls my robot vacuum, and gives me whatever data I need (weather, time, date, math, measurements, distances between towns, news, etc.)
I have two in the house, and one in the car. I don't use the one in the car that often (it's a Garmin device, and it's reliant on my phone's data connection) but the ones in the house are very useful all damn day.
I'd have it controlling my thermostat, too, if I didn't have to rely on two separate thermostats (one for heating, one for cooling. It's a dumb design that came with the house.) and had the cash to throw at a Nest for both.

I don't know that I'd go around bragging about dependent I am on machines to take care of all my daily activities. That doesn't make you any smarterr; it just makes you less competent and more helpless. It's kind of like a co-dependent relationship with your shiny little box.

which is just the way the corporations want it.

Or it could be a boon to an aging population that may be having increasing trouble going downstairs to turn on the porch light or adjust the thermostat every time.

My dad is having surgery in a couple weeks and will be laid up for weeks, and won't always have someone there. I set things up so he can control lights, climate and even notify him if someone pulls into the driveway. He also likes being able to just call out for an audiobook now and again.

I know, as with any technology there will be folks so edgy online that they'd no more have one than they'd have a television, but...


Also:

https://www.consumerreports.org/amazo​n​/amazon-echo-voice-commands-offer-big-​benefits-to-users-with-disabilities/

http://www.eastersealstech.com/2017/0​1​/11/5-ways-utilize-amazon-echo/

There's also a newly added feature where an Echo can read aloud just about any book you habe in your Kindle library, which is huge for anyone with vision problems.

For me it is just a convenience, but some some people it is life-changing, especially now that it is bringing home automation down to ridiculously low prices. Over Black Friday, there were several deals where you could get an Echo Dot or Google Home Mini for $30 and could add a smart plug on to the sale for only $5 (and the smart plugs are now regularly being sold for $20 a pop). For a retired person with disabilities, that is going to save them a ton of money compared to what was previously offered.
 
2017-12-30 03:29:37 PM  

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Siri

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Alexa

Came for these.
 
2017-12-30 05:10:13 PM  
I have a couple of friends that I need to introduce to Alexa.  One is hard of hearing and has that kind of voice inflection.  Another is a flaming toothless hillbilly sounding accent, my brother.  Another is from Queensland, Australia.  Another is a flat out spazz who speaks at 100 miles per hour and not really in a sentence structure.  This should be fun.
 
2017-12-30 05:14:20 PM  

Pinner: Alexa gives head.
Siri gives reluctant hand jobs.


FARK is not your personal Goofus and Gallant.
 
2017-12-30 06:48:53 PM  
Really, guys? The latest Alexa commercial has some woman asking what the weather is, while looking out the window. When Siri did that a couple of years ago, there were many well-financed threads about how stupid that was. Now it's okay? Cash that check, will it to your children, then do the honorable thing, for the future of the human race.
 
2017-12-30 08:33:59 PM  

mudpants: I have a couple of friends that I need to introduce to Alexa.  One is hard of hearing and has that kind of voice inflection.  Another is a flaming toothless hillbilly sounding accent, my brother.  Another is from Queensland, Australia.  Another is a flat out spazz who speaks at 100 miles per hour and not really in a sentence structure.  This should be fun.


Does he talk about tradesman's entrance and yarbles?
 
2017-12-30 10:00:36 PM  
Alexa drives like this and Siri drives like this.

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2017-12-31 01:10:40 AM  
I'm guessing, but $500?
 
2017-12-31 01:38:55 AM  

bingethinker: Really, guys? The latest Alexa commercial has some woman asking what the weather is, while looking out the window. When Siri did that a couple of years ago, there were many well-financed threads about how stupid that was. Now it's okay? Cash that check, will it to your children, then do the honorable thing, for the future of the human race.


What's good for the Goose is what's good for the Gander
 
2017-12-31 01:39:05 AM  
The difference between Siri and Alexa:
The indexed contents of everything you say to it is sent to a slightly different set of global marketing firms.

That's it.  Really.
 
2017-12-31 08:48:01 AM  

ZAZ: One is the software that eavesdrops on you, and the other is... the software that eavesdrops on you, I guess.


me and my keyboard/mouse have an understanding. voice can fark off.
 
2017-12-31 08:48:48 AM  

bingethinker: Really, guys? The latest Alexa commercial has some woman asking what the weather is, while looking out the window. When Siri did that a couple of years ago, there were many well-financed threads about how stupid that was. Now it's okay? Cash that check, will it to your children, then do the honorable thing, for the future of the human race.


Siri was an App that was not created by Apple and there were already voice assistants on Google that worked as crappily as Siri.
 
2017-12-31 02:41:26 PM  

bingethinker: Really, guys? The latest Alexa commercial has some woman asking what the weather is, while looking out the window. When Siri did that a couple of years ago, there were many well-financed threads about how stupid that was. Now it's okay? Cash that check, will it to your children, then do the honorable thing, for the future of the human race.


I love my alexa for weather, I ask alexa first thing each morning for the weather report. (I get up when its dark).
 
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