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(Five Thirty-Eight)   After legalization, small marijuana growers have fared as well as other small farmers   ( fivethirtyeight.com) divider line
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2017-12-29 12:55:31 PM  
So the legal marijuana business is ending up just like nearly every other business?

Some small producers will survive with premium products, otherwise of course the bigger businesses will consolidate.
 
2017-12-29 01:01:27 PM  
Meh, same with beer. Big brands will come in and dominate the market for a while, people will get tired of them, and microbrews/craft beers start popping up offering more/better choices. They're fighting for market share right now, and big ones will be able to meet supply more, but that does not mean there's no room for smaller grow operations.
 
2017-12-29 01:34:39 PM  
Are we blaming job-killing regulations yet?
 
2017-12-29 01:49:12 PM  

davidphogan: So the legal marijuana business is ending up just like nearly every other business?

Some small producers will survive with premium products, otherwise of course the bigger businesses will consolidate.


I was thinking they should do craft or boutique products, like small breweries do.


Has rjr entered the market yet?
 
2017-12-29 01:56:09 PM  
Go legal weed!
 
2017-12-29 02:21:46 PM  
Monsanto weed.  You must buy their sterilized seeds every year.

/sen semilla
 
2017-12-29 02:27:49 PM  
The stuff literally grows on trees.
 
2017-12-29 02:43:56 PM  
My pot place recently really dropped their prices. Under 40 bucks for 7 grams of quality weed.

"I'm helping small, American farmers....Are YOU???"
 
2017-12-29 02:45:04 PM  
There is no good argument for small-scale MJ farming.  Your costs are always going to be 3-4x those of bigger growers.
 
2017-12-29 02:53:05 PM  
Obviously an opportunity for 'all-natural' organic farmers, since that segment is willing to pay a large premium for a product that is no better than or worse than the large growers' product.

Unfortunately, middle-grade marijuana is so easy to grow the main commercial market is extracts and add-ons.

Zero interest in it myself, but the stoners I know will not shut up.
 
2017-12-29 02:55:18 PM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: There is no good argument for small-scale MJ farming.  Your costs are always going to be 3-4x those of bigger growers.


There is no good argument for small-scale farming of ANY kind.

A big corporation can do it better, faster, and cheaper. And in a more environmentally friendly way, too.

Real farming is an expensive, time-consuming process. Small farmers simply don't have the time or money to really do it well. Yes, they can make a living at it. Many of them can even get rich. But their operations are radically inefficient, and when it comes to mass production of crops, efficiency is EVERYTHING.
 
2017-12-29 04:03:35 PM  
"There is no good argument for small-scale farming of ANY kind."

Small farms keep people busy. And in touch with the land and their food. Seems to me this is the smartest future job as automation replaces people making and doing anything. Why not pay them to farm and provide a little for their communities?

No it isn't profitable nor will you get rich, but it's better than not working or working for poor wages for someone else.
 
2017-12-29 04:13:20 PM  
You mean some of them better than they let on?
https://www.sokanu.com/careers/farmer​/​salary/
 
2017-12-29 04:20:03 PM  
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2017-12-29 04:38:46 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: The stuff literally grows on trees.


Weeds != Trees

But other than that, you're exactly right.
 
2017-12-29 06:01:43 PM  
No shiat sherlock.
 
2017-12-29 06:06:09 PM  

Nadie_AZ: "There is no good argument for small-scale farming of ANY kind."

Small farms keep people busy. And in touch with the land and their food. Seems to me this is the smartest future job as automation replaces people making and doing anything. Why not pay them to farm and provide a little for their communities?

No it isn't profitable nor will you get rich, but it's better than not working or working for poor wages for someone else.


There is a place for all scales of farming, but farming is rife with automation too. Something as simple as a timer on an irrigation system (watering by hand farking sucks) to things as complicated as real-time measurement of soil conditions and adjusting the application of fertilizers and water on the fly.

Not to mention the robot tractors.

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2017-12-29 06:20:38 PM  
Wait, you mean to tell me wealthy people are able to dominate markets? Quelle surprise.
 
2017-12-29 07:55:53 PM  

GanjSmokr: AverageAmericanGuy: The stuff literally grows on trees.

Weeds != Trees

But other than that, you're exactly right.


User name checks out
 
2017-12-29 08:00:57 PM  

GanjSmokr: AverageAmericanGuy: The stuff literally grows on trees.

Weeds != Trees

But other than that, you're exactly right.


I guess you've never heard slang for buds, especially long ones.
It's trees.

*looks at username, is disappoint*
 
2017-12-29 08:19:02 PM  

natazha: Obviously an opportunity for 'all-natural' organic farmers, since that segment is willing to pay a large premium for a product that is no better than or worse than the large growers' product.


Stopped reading there, as you appear to be completely clueless about food safety and quality.

But keep preaching those Monsanto talking points.  I'm sure someday they'll sleep with you.

Nadie_AZ: Small farms keep people busy. And in touch with the land and their food. Seems to me this is the smartest future job as automation replaces people making and doing anything. Why not pay them to farm and provide a little for their communities?


As automation advances, there will be an enormous decline in jobs available to humans.  So I agree with this.

No it isn't profitable nor will you get rich, but it's better than not working or working for poor wages for someone else.

There are specialty growers clearing 6 figures on an acre or two of lettuce and other high-margin crops.  That may not be "rich" to you, but to many it would seem pretty good.
 
2017-12-29 08:28:38 PM  

realmolo: There is no good argument for small-scale farming of ANY kind.

A big corporation can do it better, faster, and cheaper. And in a more environmentally friendly way, too.


Well, that's a first-class load of fine organic bullshiat.  A large corporation can appear to be more efficient than small scale human-sized production only because of cheap fossil fuels.  And also because like other large corporations, they privatize the profits, but not the environmental costs.  You'll get to pay those.
 
2017-12-29 09:05:11 PM  

lindalouwho: GanjSmokr: AverageAmericanGuy: The stuff literally grows on trees.

Weeds != Trees

But other than that, you're exactly right.

I guess you've never heard slang for buds, especially long ones.
It's trees.

*looks at username, is disappoint*


I've heard many different slang terms for bud over the years but haven't ever heard (or at least remember having heard) "trees".
 
2017-12-29 09:08:28 PM  

GanjSmokr: lindalouwho: GanjSmokr: AverageAmericanGuy: The stuff literally grows on trees.

Weeds != Trees

But other than that, you're exactly right.

I guess you've never heard slang for buds, especially long ones.
It's trees.

*looks at username, is disappoint*

I've heard many different slang terms for bud over the years but haven't ever heard (or at least remember having heard) "trees".


https://reddit.com/r/trees/
 
2017-12-29 11:18:55 PM  
Huh, who would have thought that the price of a weed would go down dramatically once it was legalized?
 
2017-12-30 01:23:32 AM  

GanjSmokr: lindalouwho: GanjSmokr: AverageAmericanGuy: The stuff literally grows on trees.

Weeds != Trees

But other than that, you're exactly right.

I guess you've never heard slang for buds, especially long ones.
It's trees.

*looks at username, is disappoint*

I've heard many different slang terms for bud over the years but haven't ever heard (or at least remember having heard) "trees".


you need to go over to reddit.

/not that I very often give that advice.
//seriously, go to r/trees
 
2017-12-30 01:27:13 AM  

scottydoesntknow: Meh, same with beer. Big brands will come in and dominate the market for a while, people will get tired of them, and microbrews/craft beers start popping up offering more/better choices. They're fighting for market share right now, and big ones will be able to meet supply more, but that does not mean there's no room for smaller grow operations.


https://www.brewersassociation.org/st​a​tistics/national-beer-sales-production​-data/
So your saying its totally find for big pot companies to control 70% of the market by first consolidating the little and mid-sized out of the market and then only allowing a premium product to exist for regions that have people with enough funds to restart what existed before?

Congrats on feeling smug about understanding the last quarter century of beer sales but lets not pretend that the preceding 50 years weren't terrible for beer producers and drinkers except for the big people.

Its monopolistic and contrary to what Teddy Roosevelt put forth.  Sorry I am just sick of this defeatist mentality that we shouldn't be a bit perturbed that late stage capitalism is pervading an entirely new market.
 
2017-12-30 01:41:47 PM  

fader74: GanjSmokr: lindalouwho: GanjSmokr: AverageAmericanGuy: The stuff literally grows on trees.

Weeds != Trees

But other than that, you're exactly right.

I guess you've never heard slang for buds, especially long ones.
It's trees.

*looks at username, is disappoint*

I've heard many different slang terms for bud over the years but haven't ever heard (or at least remember having heard) "trees".

you need to go over to reddit.

/not that I very often give that advice.
//seriously, go to r/trees


I did, and it's definitely worth a few hours of insanity.
 
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