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(Slate)   "I went on a date with a guy and I really like him, but I laughed at his comments about 9/11 being a conspiracy. Turns out, he's a 9/11 truther; can I make this work?"   ( slate.com) divider line
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2017-12-28 09:32:50 PM  
No. Do the ol' hump and dump.
 
2017-12-28 09:35:39 PM  
Well, technically 9/11 was a conspiracy.
 
2017-12-28 09:44:49 PM  
Run, run now, run fast, run far far away.

If you hang around with nutters eventually you turn into one yourself, so save yourself and RUN
 
2017-12-28 09:47:48 PM  
I've never actually met a 9/11 truther. Are they actually real?

/never met a flat earther either
//I have met the evolution deniers
 
2017-12-28 09:51:09 PM  
Didn't we just do this story yesterday?
 
2017-12-28 09:57:12 PM  

Gubbo: I've never actually met a 9/11 truther. Are they actually real?


Yeah, I know a couple of guys who, while they may not be full on "Truthers", say things like, "Well I work construction and I can tell you a jet fuel fire won't melt steel beams."
 
2017-12-28 10:06:05 PM  

derpes_simplex: Well, technically 9/11 was a conspiracy.


Anyone with one coherent brain cell knows Bush was behind it, so he could go and conqueror the Middle East, so his Big Oil buddies could all reap billions of $$.

At the expense of dead soldiers.
 
2017-12-28 10:13:09 PM  
Jet fuel is incapable of melting the human heart and steel beams
 
2017-12-28 10:23:36 PM  

NeedlesslyCanadian: Didn't we just do this story yesterday?


No. that was a trump supporter.
 
2017-12-28 11:46:05 PM  

derpes_simplex: Well, technically 9/11 was a conspiracy.


I this one thinks it was a (((conspiracy))) though.
 
2017-12-29 12:03:55 AM  
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2017-12-29 12:13:49 AM  
con·SPIR·a·cy

* an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or sur​reptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons

* any concurrence in action; combination​in bringing about a given result.

9/11 was a conspiracy. A bunch of radicals conspired to use commercial aircraft to attack iconic targets in the USA. They had to have conspired to pull it off because there were four different planes hijacked almost simultaneously by nineteen guys.

So he's quite right.

Going back to your original question ... dump that sucker faster than a sloppy joe in a school lunch.
 
2017-12-29 12:14:50 AM  
The funny thing about conspiracy theory believers is that they're like Lay's potato chip lovers.  They never stop at one, they have to eat the whole bag.
 
2017-12-29 12:15:32 AM  

derpes_simplex: Well, technically 9/11 was a conspiracy.


Decades in the making.
 
2017-12-29 12:32:54 AM  

Gubbo: I've never actually met a 9/11 truther. Are they actually real?

/never met a flat earther either
//I have met the evolution deniers


I know at least one who believes the first two. Along with chemtrails, alien visitation, etc. He doesn't deny evolution though, so he's got that going for him, which is nice.
 
2017-12-29 12:34:10 AM  
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2017-12-29 12:49:05 AM  
Let him buy you things, take his money, and RUN.  If he contacts you, tell him you were part of Deep State Surveillance, and he is under active investigation...
 
2017-12-29 12:50:40 AM  

snowjack: [imaginedc.net image 450x347]


Is it sad that I want to visit an establishment (either residential or commercial) that has clear toilets so that I might wreak my vengeance upon said clear bowl, not flush, and politely, yet quickly, excuse myself, all the while waiting in the bushes for the first "victim" to come across the violation of the Geneva Convention I left in there, hoping for a break in a long-held armistice that could plunge us into pre-WWI times when the Queen ruled the "Civilised World," And thus allowed us to mustard gas our enemies with inpugnaty?

No?
Just me?
Carry on then.
 
2017-12-29 12:51:35 AM  

Butternut Squanch: Let him buy you things, take his money, and RUN.  If he contacts you, tell him you were part of Deep State Surveillance, and he is under active investigation...


Don't actually do this. He might actually believe it. I've known people with schizophrenia, and this sounds like the setup for a break with reality.
 
2017-12-29 12:54:04 AM  
I admit I have rsed 9*11 conspiracy theories to get guys to leave me alone at times.
 
2017-12-29 12:59:18 AM  

Gubbo: I've never actually met a 9/11 truther. Are they actually real?

/never met a flat earther either
//I have met the evolution deniers


I once met a guy who insisted that 'they' (whoever 'they' are) are listening to everyone by using our TV speakers as microphones. This is what happens to me when I just want to drink in peace.
 
2017-12-29 01:01:03 AM  

Gordon Bennett: Gubbo: I've never actually met a 9/11 truther. Are they actually real?

/never met a flat earther either
//I have met the evolution deniers

I once met a guy who insisted that 'they' (whoever 'they' are) are listening to everyone by using our TV speakers as microphones. This is what happens to me when I just want to drink in peace.


I ran into a guy playing online games once, who did exactly that.

Lemme tell ya, if the illuminati are using our speakers as microphones, they can't understand SHIAT.
 
2017-12-29 01:02:21 AM  

Gubbo: I've never actually met a 9/11 truther. Are they actually real?

/never met a flat earther either
//I have met the evolution deniers


I had a neighbor who was a truther. He had made comments before that made me groan.  One day he invites himself over while a buddy and I are grilling. Which, was fine... Until he started on some light 9/11 truther stuff, then started down Sandy Hook was a false flag. The government murdered those children to implement gun control.

He was 100% serious. I threw him out of the house at that point.

It made me pretty upset, to be honest.
 
2017-12-29 01:03:21 AM  
Did toaster laugh?
 
2017-12-29 01:05:26 AM  

derpes_simplex: Well, technically 9/11 was a conspiracy.


Yes, yes, that's technically true, like how Hitler did do one good thing, being that he killed Hitler.

/Ben Affleck killed Superman twice
 
2017-12-29 01:11:36 AM  
The saddest thing about conspiracy theorists is they have absolutely nothing else to farking talk about. They are boring, one-sided marks who claim they're smart because they devoted a good hunk of their brain to things that don't actually make sense when you apply any degree of logic to them but you, you're the stupid one, you just don't understand, I have the real answers about how we are collectively weak and stupid and that somehow makes me powerful and intelligent.

media.giphy.com
 
2017-12-29 01:14:53 AM  
NCSB

spent the holidays with family and booze. My brother started ranting about flat earthers and why the internet is stupid and useless. I reminded him that he was like that regarding 9/11 and had to explain how the internet should be used. He proceeded to try and show his kids 9/11 conspiracy videos.

</NCSB>

/fark Facebook
//fark stupid people
///threes
 
2017-12-29 01:17:50 AM  

fusillade762: Gubbo: I've never actually met a 9/11 truther. Are they actually real?

/never met a flat earther either
//I have met the evolution deniers

I know at least one who believes the first two. Along with chemtrails, alien visitation, etc. He doesn't deny evolution though, so he's got that going for him, which is nice.


the other night after work I stopped at this bar to wind down a bit. I like this place - it's usually quiet, the food's good, beer is cold and cheap, the bartender is friendly, and they always have sports on the TV. so I'm enjoying the peace and beer, when another patron strikes up a conversation with me by saying "did you ever read about those chemtrails on the internet? I believe it".

/I was going to leave but their domestic drafts are two bucks for a pint
//never met a 9/11 truther but considering how I tend to attract the crazies in bars, it's just a matter of time now
 
2017-12-29 01:18:32 AM  

fatassbastard: Gubbo: I've never actually met a 9/11 truther. Are they actually real?

Yeah, I know a couple of guys who, while they may not be full on "Truthers", say things like, "Well I work construction and I can tell you a jet fuel fire won't melt steel beams."


I know 4. Possibly 1 or 2 more who won't say anything for fear of being savagely ridiculed.
"I work construction..." Jesus. Just another reminder, if going to work every day wasn't enough, that some of the dumbest motherfarkers imaginable work in construction. All you need for something to fall down is for the beams to get hot enough to soften a bit. Especially given the WTC's unconventional frame design. And what else might there be in an office that the jet fuel could ignite? Furniture? Reams and reams of useless bullshiat paperwork? Certainly enough fuel to potentially do real damage to a building. They wouldn't spend the money they do on trying to fireproof steel frame structures if there wasn't an issue there. Unfortunately, a lot of that stuff, insulating coatings, fire rated walls, and the like, gets seriously disrupted when you crash a farking Boeing 767 into it.
 
2017-12-29 01:21:09 AM  
PRUDENCE.  BELONGS.  ON.  THE.  DISCUSSION.  TAB.  AS.  DEAR.  PRUDENCE.

*deep breath*  Why do you people torment me so?  Let's see if Prudie goes all in on doing the same.

1)  Starts off with a bang, he's 43 and your 27.  43/2 + 7 = 28.5.  It's close, but you pass the age front.  It's like a D+.  But then the extra credit goes into the negative as he isn't the sharpest hammer in the shed.  OK, this guy is an idiot.  You can literally have fun with him, making fun of him to his face, until he is fed up enough and leaves, or you get bored and stop talking to him.  I personally would cut ties and walk away, he probably is a stalker.  If he is a stalker, go down to the home depot or target, pick up a star shower projector (The should be cheap with the after-christmas sales) and hook it up under the hood of your car.  Tell him you have one of the newer model knight rider intelligent cars.  Now he isn't stalking you, he's stalking your car.

2) Oh, hell no.  The wife and I are from large Catholic families.  40 people?  That's when half the family shows up, on one side.  You ask for side dishes to be brought, that's common courtesy, but asking for money, that's when you show up and defiantly say no while walking to the liquor cabinet and grabbing the top shelf stuff.  I'm not talking about drinking the top shelf stuff, I mean literally grabbing it and just walking out taking it home.  That's how large families roll, biatch.

3) Wait another week and show up at his door drunk and ready to go.  Let him know that even if your an embarrassment while your alcoholic self is falling over as a sloppy drunk, you will let him do anything.  That's sure to win him back.

4) 20 years old and a half-million in debt.  I understand that kids these days have it tough, but DAYUM.  Tell him to make it a long engagement.  If she can whittle that debt down, or has a plan to eliminate it sometime this century (you said she's ambitious), then you give it your blessing.  Otherwise, start watching movies about mother-in-laws from hell, and work your magic to break them up.

5) Another break-up one?  I'm sensing a theme here.  It really depends on how old "Amy" is.  This is extremely important between being a sweet friend, a creepy ex-girlfriend or a friend of a young adult.  Without more information, I can't help you.

6) Women are complex creatures, they require a lot of attention and time discussing things.  They read in-between lines and try to find hidden meanings and subtle subtext in everything.  Boys are not women.  Boys are dumb.  Boys are simple.  Literally throw a roll at him and tell him he has to eat like an adult at the table because what he does now is disgusting and you will leave if he doesn't fix it.  When he doesn't fix it, leave.  He will be back in three weeks (possible drunken phone call in 2 weeks), the effort he makes in that time is the best he will ever get.  Then you can decide if your pulling the plug or going all the way.  Stay strong, tiger.

7) Conspiracy theorists are harmless nutjobs.  Until he pulls a Jonestown on your ass, without your knowledge, because it's the ONLY way to save the both of you.  Cut and run.

8) Pfft, don't worry, I got this.  Print a solo invitation just for your mother.  Have the time on this invitation late by 1 hour.  Problem.  Solved.

9) You're right.  She should totally break into his car and hide in the back seat.  Then wait until he is driving on the highway to pop up, that way he can't run out of the car and is truly a captive audience.  She should probably bring a gun for protection, in case someone else tries breaking into the car.  Since they are driving on the highway, she should probably yell, or talk very, very loud to make sure he hears her.  That should solve all her problems.

Prudence on the Geek tab.  Will Akula even find it here?
 
2017-12-29 01:22:09 AM  

interstellar_tedium: Run, run now, run fast, run far far away.

If you hang around with nutters eventually you turn into one yourself, so save yourself and RUN


Give the relationship two more years.  You'll be understanding to your friends that he was right all along.
 
2017-12-29 01:28:02 AM  
I remember the 9/11 conspiracy theories. I find this boxing quote to be a pretty succinct refutation of idea that the building was built to withstand blah blah blah so it had to be an inside blah blah blah:

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2017-12-29 01:28:51 AM  

fatassbastard: Gubbo: I've never actually met a 9/11 truther. Are they actually real?

Yeah, I know a couple of guys who, while they may not be full on "Truthers", say things like, "Well I work construction and I can tell you a jet fuel fire won't melt steel beams."


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/oblig
 
2017-12-29 01:29:37 AM  
While on the subject:
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2017-12-29 01:29:43 AM  
Steel is 50% as strong at 600C. Jet A burns at well over 900C where steel has lost 95% of its strength. I feel dumb having to actually take the 3min to look that up and post it but not only is that conspiracy hypothesis wrong, it's not even plausible.
 
2017-12-29 01:30:19 AM  
But seriously:
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2017-12-29 01:34:46 AM  
Short answer: No. Run away.

Longer Answer: Hell no. Get the fark out of there.

Longest Answer: If he can believe anything so ridiculous as 9/11 being an "inside job" and "faked," then he lacks the critical thinking skills and self awareness that's needed to make a relationship viable and healthy over time. So you're better off leaving now before there's any other emotional commitment.
 
2017-12-29 01:41:22 AM  
SEVER.  People who believe in one whacky conspiracy theory NEVER believe in just one farked up thing.
 
2017-12-29 01:46:57 AM  
Mrs. Johnson is highly susceptible to the opinions of other people that she respects.
Imagine my surprise when she once started spouting off something about how the 9/11 attacks could not have  been completely responsible for bringing down the towers.  There "had to be" some other influences in there that Bush & Co. was part of.

After giving her the stink eye, I carefully talked her back from this by with "facts" about the construction of the building and how a plane "could" fly into it and leave it standing, but the resulting fire would weaken everything so it fell like a set of dominos, each floor pancaking the next one with greater force etc etc.  I think she got it as she never brought it up again.

Then this week I asked if she got a Flu Shot and once again she stated that she did not because "she doesn't get the flu" and besides her friend (the lawyer) got a flu shot a few years ago and RIGHT AFTERWARDS SHE GOT THE FLU!
So now she is an anti-vaxxer.
Had to talk her back again starting with how she thought the flu vaccine worked and then telling her how it actually worked.  I'm trained as a nurse but she would rather listen to her girlfriend the lawyer.

Later she fessed up that she thought it was a live flu virus in the vaccine.  But she STILL won't get a Flu Shot!

I'm not going to try and stop her from reading her YAHOO horoscopes though.  She can have them.
 
2017-12-29 01:56:27 AM  

Johnson: Mrs. Johnson is highly susceptible to the opinions of other people that she respects.
Imagine my surprise when she once started spouting off something about how the 9/11 attacks could not have  been completely responsible for bringing down the towers.  There "had to be" some other influences in there that Bush & Co. was part of.

After giving her the stink eye, I carefully talked her back from this by with "facts" about the construction of the building and how a plane "could" fly into it and leave it standing, but the resulting fire would weaken everything so it fell like a set of dominos, each floor pancaking the next one with greater force etc etc.  I think she got it as she never brought it up again.

Then this week I asked if she got a Flu Shot and once again she stated that she did not because "she doesn't get the flu" and besides her friend (the lawyer) got a flu shot a few years ago and RIGHT AFTERWARDS SHE GOT THE FLU!
So now she is an anti-vaxxer.
Had to talk her back again starting with how she thought the flu vaccine worked and then telling her how it actually worked.  I'm trained as a nurse but she would rather listen to her girlfriend the lawyer.

Later she fessed up that she thought it was a live flu virus in the vaccine.  But she STILL won't get a Flu Shot!

I'm not going to try and stop her from reading her YAHOO horoscopes though.  She can have them.


May I offer you a bit of advice?

Never, under any circumstance, take Mrs. Johnson to a time-share pitch.
 
2017-12-29 01:59:29 AM  
There is one conspiracy about 911 I want to address, and that is there were people that profited from it. United and American airlines. Put options. People knew enough about what was going to happen to make bank on it.
 
2017-12-29 02:09:23 AM  

Kirablue42: There is one conspiracy about 911 I want to address, and that is there were people that profited from it. United and American airlines. Put options. People knew enough about what was going to happen to make bank on it.


Reference on there being an unusual amount of activity there?  Anything other than timing to suggest a link?  Not saying you must be wrong though, as it is publicly admitted that the warnings were out and Junior's administration didn't think they were credible or something, but rather that it shouldn't have been that common of knowledge.
 
2017-12-29 02:14:02 AM  
9/11 was a conspiracy. It's just that it was a conspiracy of Islamic fundamentalists who hated the US for many reasons. Osama had been practicing doing these sort of things for decades and had pulled off a couple big ones before. Heck, they tried to take down the twin towers a good ten years or so before and failed very publicly.

If there was a conspiracy in the US, it was a conspiracy to forget about Osama, or a conspiracy to forget that Saudi Arabia and Pakistan nurtured Al Qaeda. We literally had to conduct a secret raid on a supposed ally that was harboring Osama bin Laden. Saudi Arabia has tilled the soil for violent extremists by funding schools and mosques spreading the vilest fundamentalist teachings for decades.

We can pretend the US government would want to harm the financial center of the country to start a forever war, or we can see that the lead up to this was decades in coming and due to foreign policy that prioritized the wrong types of loyalty. Honestly, I almost think the US government spread the conspiracy theories to keep people from seeing what really happened, which is the US supporting religious governments that stabbed us in the back.
 
2017-12-29 02:27:25 AM  

Butternut Squanch: Let him buy you things, take his money, and RUN.  If he contacts you, tell him you were part of Deep State Surveillance, and he is under active investigation...


I'm libby.... but are you my ex-wife?

/she liked squanch
 
2017-12-29 02:32:00 AM  

fusillade762: Gubbo: I've never actually met a 9/11 truther. Are they actually real?

/never met a flat earther either
//I have met the evolution deniers

I know at least one who believes the first two. Along with chemtrails, alien visitation, etc. He doesn't deny evolution though, so he's got that going for him, which is nice.


If he didn't believe in evolution then it wouldn't make sense that the aliens are using the chemicals in contrails to evolve humans into human-alien hybrids.
 
2017-12-29 02:32:59 AM  

a_room_with_a_moose: /squanch


Gross, stop saying it!
 
2017-12-29 02:34:29 AM  

stammelford: a_room_with_a_moose: /squanch

Gross, stop saying it!


It's only not cool when you say it.

/so, stop!
 
2017-12-29 02:57:07 AM  

Chromium_One: Kirablue42: There is one conspiracy about 911 I want to address, and that is there were people that profited from it. United and American airlines. Put options. People knew enough about what was going to happen to make bank on it.

Reference on there being an unusual amount of activity there?  Anything other than timing to suggest a link?  Not saying you must be wrong though, as it is publicly admitted that the warnings were out and Junior's administration didn't think they were credible or something, but rather that it shouldn't have been that common of knowledge.


Since they never found a link to Al Queada, they said it was all just a coincidence. Like the church lady sez..how convienient. And now only the 'wacko' conspiratards think of it at all. Because money.

https://www.quora.com/Who-Put-the-put​-​options-on-American-Airlines-right-bef​ore-9-11
 
2017-12-29 03:03:11 AM  
My considered advice:

RUN BITCH RUN FOR YOUR LIFE GET SOME HELP!
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2017-12-29 03:10:31 AM  

Gubbo: I've never actually met a 9/11 truther. Are they actually real?

/never met a flat earther either
//I have met the evolution deniers


There's actually a well known Farkette who is a 9/11 truther. She was there when it happened and claimed everything didn't make sense as it unfolded. That's why she believes the truther stuff.
 
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