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2017-12-28 05:58:36 PM  
Buy a water filtration system and a reusable water bottle.
A Brita pitcher with 2 filters costs like $25 and a insulated water bottle cost $10
$35 dollars for over 600 16 oz glasses of water or  60 throw away bottles.
Save money and the environment.
If you drink 2 bottles a day you are (if you buy in bulk) at least $400 a year on water, in addition to what you pay your public utility to give you "free" water.
You probably cook with it, bathe in it, give it to your pets and wash your clothes in it.
Filter it and drink it.
Coke doesn't do a magic dance around the water they sell you. They just filter it and laugh at how much money they are making off of you.
 
2017-12-28 06:01:01 PM  
'Evian' is 'Naive' spelled backwards
 
2017-12-28 06:03:13 PM  
My coworker only drinks bottled water because she says that regular tape water can trigger migraines in her. I suggested she invest in a Brita filter or similar. Nope, still on the bottled water train.
 
2017-12-28 06:09:11 PM  
only time I drink bottled water is if I am roadtripping
and if coffee isn't available
and if I am driving and can't have real liquids
 
2017-12-28 06:25:03 PM  
Who doesn't know that bottled water is tap water? Buy it for the bottle. Refill it from the tap. Rinse it out when refilling to keep it from getting manky.
 
2017-12-28 06:37:05 PM  
People buy bottled water for the convenience, not the quality.

Does this really need to be explained for the five millionth f*cking time?
 
2017-12-28 07:33:25 PM  

Gordon Bennett: Who doesn't know that bottled water is tap water? Buy it for the bottle. Refill it from the tap. Rinse it out when refilling to keep it from getting manky.


That's what I do. Water bottles get reused about a dozen times before I recycle them. Helps that my tap has its own filter.
 
2017-12-28 07:34:49 PM  
About 45 percent of bottled water, including leading brands Dasani and Aquafina, comes from public tap water that the companies treat before they bottle it

The Environmental Protection Agency monitors public water supplies, and it makes violations available to the public.


I guess that answers the question about future water quality sources.
Bottled water industry will thank Perry and the Trump administration for promoting their business.
 
2017-12-28 08:17:14 PM  
Phoenix officials said they conduct more than five million tests on the city's water systems every year, and they test for more than 100 substances,

My tap water in Arcadia (Phoenix) wasn't bad at all. When I lived in Tempe, I know for a fact that they didn't test for ASS, because that's what it tasted like. Tempe and St. Louis have the worst water I've ever tasted.
 
2017-12-28 08:23:15 PM  
Before 1990 bottled water was considered a joke. In pop culture, movies, and skits; it was a punchline. And it was mostly women drinking bottled water, or ordering bottled water with lemon, or Hollywood yuppies ordering perrier.
It was a joke to most american, guys didn't drink it even the most popular bottled water, Evian, had a pink label and mostly advertised to women. Guys drinking bottled water was considered effete, definitely not macho.

Then around 1990 something happened that gave guys permission to drink bottled water at the gym, jogging, or bring it to work. That something was the Gulf War. The news was filled with images of macho Marines and Soldier drinking those same pink labeled Evian water bottles everyone was making fun off a few years earlier. After that you got multiple brands of water and it become very normal for guys and women to buy water by the bottle.
 
2017-12-28 08:51:49 PM  
Lewis Black on Broadway (on water)
Youtube yNGWn-aWn5g
 
2017-12-28 08:52:32 PM  
I just stick to rainwater and pure grain alcohol to maintain the purity and essence of my natural fluids.
 
2017-12-28 08:52:56 PM  
Bottled water:

Pros
At least it's not carbonated HFCS

Cons
Everything
 
2017-12-28 08:59:04 PM  

sigdiamond2000: People buy bottled water for the convenience, not the quality.


Unless you're in Flint, Michigan.
 
2017-12-28 09:01:26 PM  
Its 'treated' tap water.... Big difference, than just calling it tap water.... i'm sorry, but if i pour a glass from the sink, its cloudy brown.     Whatever filter a bottled company uses, is gonna be worth it (to me) over drinking it straight from the tap like a barbarian.

My fridge has a filter, so really, i use that, but prior to that, i bought water from the store.   I'm glad for the facts, but it doesn't change how i feel about it.
 
2017-12-28 09:03:56 PM  
Didn't Jim Gaffigan talk about this in one of his books?

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Yep.  Yep he did.
 
2017-12-28 09:14:48 PM  
May be NSFW

George Carlin - Water Sez
Youtube LZ7bb2tXXuU
 
2017-12-28 09:16:54 PM  
With water quality what it is in some American cities you can't blame people for wanting something different. And I'm not even talking about stuff like lime from well-water. I've been in places, primarily in the South, where the water looked as nasty as it tasted. That municipalities even get away with that is a crime.
For myself, I was raised off Rocky Mountain tap water and now live next to a lake in northern Sweden. I've had it pretty good with tap water. I can count on both hands the number of times I've bought a bottle of water in my life.
 
2017-12-28 09:24:30 PM  

Gordon Bennett: Who doesn't know that bottled water is tap water? Buy it for the bottle. Refill it from the tap. Rinse it out when refilling to keep it from getting manky.


Search the Googles about reusing bottles.  IIRC, reuse causes the bottle to break down and release nasty chemical the body absorbs.
 
2017-12-28 09:39:48 PM  
You can get like 850 mls of Arizona Iced Tea for less than 500 mls of Aquafina water.

But it's not a scam.
 
2017-12-28 09:46:42 PM  
Tap water in some places taste weird or even bad so I get buying bottled water for the taste. But
I do not get the "convenience" argument, how is buying bottled water at a store more convenient than getting it from the tap at home? I'm thinking about normal day to day water drinking, not special circumstances like being a couple of hours from home on your bicycle and your water bottle getting empty because you forgot to fill it or bringing enough.
 
2017-12-28 09:46:50 PM  

T.rex: Its 'treated' tap water.... Big difference, than just calling it tap water.... i'm sorry, but if i pour a glass from the sink, its cloudy brown.     Whatever filter a bottled company uses, is gonna be worth it (to me) over drinking it straight from the tap like a barbarian.

My fridge has a filter, so really, i use that, but prior to that, i bought water from the store.   I'm glad for the facts, but it doesn't change how i feel about it.


Do you live in Flint? If your water is brown from the tap I think you need to call a plumber something isn't right.  Why not run it through a Brita filter?
 
2017-12-28 09:49:24 PM  

Mad_Radhu: I just stick to rainwater and pure grain alcohol to maintain the purity and essence of my natural fluids.


On no account will a Commie ever drink water, and not without good reason.
 
2017-12-28 09:54:12 PM  

fluffy_pope: Mad_Radhu: I just stick to rainwater and pure grain alcohol to maintain the purity and essence of my natural fluids.

On no account will a Commie ever drink water, and not without good reason.


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Hmm...
 
2017-12-28 09:54:23 PM  
I grew up where you couldn't drink the tap water.

Talk about first world problems. "I can go anywhere in this country and drink straight out of the tap but it might taste a little funny! Gross!"
 
2017-12-28 10:00:48 PM  
Filter systems are great and all, but yeah, they don't take out everything.

And sometimes, like on roadtrips and stuff, it's less convenient to carry around a reusable water bottle and hope to god that there's a decent tap from which you can refill it. In that case, it's just best to use the gas station restrooms and pay for it with a bottle of tasty Fiji water.

Mmm...Fiji water...

The tastiest thing about Fiji water is that it doesn't taste like anything. The way real water  should.
 
2017-12-28 10:15:36 PM  
You buy bottled water for one reason - convenience. That's it.
 
2017-12-28 10:20:31 PM  
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I like mine with a touch of lime....
 
2017-12-28 10:44:54 PM  

Deece: You can get like 850 mls of Arizona Iced Tea for less than 500 mls of Aquafina water.

But it's not a scam.


Which comes with sugar and caffeine that I don't want. =/
 
2017-12-28 10:47:54 PM  
No, bottles water isn't "special", but it is filtered. And that matters. It's funny they chose Phoenix as their example, Phoenix water tastes like pure ass. It's the reason I got in the habit of drinking soda almost exclusively. The stuff doesn't only taste bad, you can actually smell it from 2-3 feet away. It's foul shiat. If bottled water and water stores had been so prevalent in the early 90s, I might drink water more than soda, but it's a habit at this point.

I kinda think the con here is that Phoenix sponsored this as some kind of way to get people to quit buying water elsewhere. It's not a "con" that the water is tap water. It's cleaner than untreated water, and it tastes better than treated water. And for the "water is free" crowd, no it isn't.
 
2017-12-28 10:51:42 PM  
As has been said I use bottled water for the convenience.  By the by though if you do outdoorsey stuff and need a cooler for things or have get togethers that needs coolers.  Rather than buying bagged ice just freeze bottled water and use it to keep things cold rather than the bagged ice.  Then you have near ice cold purified water to drink rather than melted ice water you just dump.
 
2017-12-28 11:28:34 PM  

Wookie_Jesus: If you drink 2 bottles a day you are (if you buy in bulk) at least $400 a year on water, in addition to what you pay your public utility to give you "free" water.


What the fark brand of water are you buying that costs over 50 cents a bottle in bulk?

I get 24-packs 2-for-1 from Publix for $5. Or when those aren't on sale, the farking huge pack of bottles for slightly more.
 
2017-12-28 11:46:23 PM  

T.rex: Its 'treated' tap water.... Big difference, than just calling it tap water.... i'm sorry, but if i pour a glass from the sink, its cloudy brown.   Whatever filter a bottled company uses, is gonna be worth it (to me) over drinking it straight from the tap like a barbarian.

My fridge has a filter, so really, i use that, but prior to that, i bought water from the store.   I'm glad for the facts, but it doesn't change how i feel about it.


WTF.  Our tap water here(Chicago) is filtered and is never brown.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/rodale​s​-organic-life/the-top-10-tapwater-citi​es-in-america_b_8184138.html
 
2017-12-29 12:20:45 AM  

Mikey1969: No, bottles water isn't "special", but it is filtered. And that matters. It's funny they chose Phoenix as their example....


Arizona Libertarians think the invisible hand of the free market will fix the water taste...eventually.
 
2017-12-29 01:42:18 AM  

Gary-L: Gordon Bennett: Who doesn't know that bottled water is tap water? Buy it for the bottle. Refill it from the tap. Rinse it out when refilling to keep it from getting manky.

Search the Googles about reusing bottles.  IIRC, reuse causes the bottle to break down and release nasty chemical the body absorbs.


Please search harder: room-temp re-use, and freezing, are both considered harmless. High temperatures are less certain.
https://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins​/​plasticbottles.asp

/Yeah, yeah, I know: https://xkcd.com/250/
 
2017-12-29 02:08:28 AM  

sigdiamond2000: People buy bottled water for the convenience, not the quality.

Does this really need to be explained for the five millionth f*cking time?


Except they don't. Tons of people think it's better than the tap.
 
2017-12-29 09:15:18 AM  
San Angelo, TX had the worst water I've tried outside of Africa.  Tasted like propane, which made sense since there were propane extraction activities upstream from the water source.  Still drank it though, because I am lazy and am largely opposed to disposable bottled water.
 
2017-12-29 09:30:39 AM  

Wookie_Jesus: Buy a water filtration system and a reusable water bottle.
A Brita pitcher with 2 filters costs like $25 and a insulated water bottle cost $10
$35 dollars for over 600 16 oz glasses of water or  60 throw away bottles.
Save money and the environment.
If you drink 2 bottles a day you are (if you buy in bulk) at least $400 a year on water, in addition to what you pay your public utility to give you "free" water.
You probably cook with it, bathe in it, give it to your pets and wash your clothes in it.
Filter it and drink it.
Coke doesn't do a magic dance around the water they sell you. They just filter it and laugh at how much money they are making off of you.


APEC reverse osmosis baby!
 
2017-12-29 09:32:04 AM  

no1curr: My coworker only drinks bottled water because she says that regular tape water can trigger migraines in her. I suggested she invest in a Brita filter or similar. Nope, still on the bottled water train.


RO is your friend.  APEC is good
 
2017-12-29 09:32:50 AM  

Mad_Radhu: I just stick to rainwater and pure grain alcohol to maintain the purity and essence of my natural fluids.


SKYY
 
2017-12-29 09:33:37 AM  

MechaPyx: sigdiamond2000: People buy bottled water for the convenience, not the quality.

Unless you're in Flint, Michigan.


lead doesnt hurt poor kids.
 
2017-12-29 10:37:55 AM  

Russ1642: sigdiamond2000: People buy bottled water for the convenience, not the quality.

Does this really need to be explained for the five millionth f*cking time?

Except they don't. Tons of people think it's better than the tap.


And quite often it is. Municipal water tastes like ass. Filtering it helps. Which is what bottled water companies do.

swahnhennessy: For myself, I was raised off Rocky Mountain tap water and now live next to a lake in northern Sweden. I've had it pretty good with tap water. I can count on both hands the number of times I've bought a bottle of water in my life.


Oh, look who's getting a fancy-schmancy with us... 'I live in Sweden!" oooh, la-la...

Seriously though, I'd kill to live in another country. Not because I hate the US, but because I want something freaking new to happen in my life. And 'new' in a good way, not 'new' like my house burns down and my dog dies trying to save my daughter who still dies., 'new'. :-)
 
2017-12-29 11:25:18 AM  

Wookie_Jesus: Buy a water filtration system and a reusable water bottle.
A Brita pitcher with 2 filters costs like $25 and a insulated water bottle cost $10
$35 dollars for over 600 16 oz glasses of water or  60 throw away bottles.
Save money and the environment.
If you drink 2 bottles a day you are (if you buy in bulk) at least $400 a year on water, in addition to what you pay your public utility to give you "free" water.
You probably cook with it, bathe in it, give it to your pets and wash your clothes in it.
Filter it and drink it.
Coke doesn't do a magic dance around the water they sell you. They just filter it and laugh at how much money they are making off of you.


I buy Target's cases of water.  I get 24 bottles, and it costs me 2.50, sometimes less depending on sales.  I've seen it as low as 1.99 for the 24 pack.  
With your math, one person and a 24 pack of bottled water can go 12 days for 2.50 cents.  At 12 days per case, you're looking at about 30.5 cases for a year, at $2.49, amounts to 75 bucks for a year of 32oz per day of bottled purified tap water.  
For a little more than 6 dollars per month, I can get water that is guaranteed to be clean.  And costs less than those Brita filters....which brings me to my next point.
3M has a chemical plant about 8 miles from my house.  Their dumping of shiat into the water table has caused our water to be absolutely disgusting.  It smells terrible, it is cloudy.  If I leave a bowl of it out for a few days, a yellow/white crust forms on the bowl.  Not just water spots or a ring, a full on crust.  Our neighbors have had 8 pets die in the 13 years I've lived here.  Every single one of them had some sort of kidney failure coupled with cancer nodules.  I have had 2 pets die of similar issues.  After the second pet died, we started giving our cat store bought purified water as well.  He doesn't have any of these issues.  As far as Brita/PuR/etc...filters, we've tried those, but remember that crust I spoke of earlier?  That builds up in the filter, usually cashing them out in about 2 weeks.  On Amazon, a two pack of filters for the tap mounted filter is 22 bucks, or 11 dollars a filter every 2 weeks.  If we go the pitcher route, you're looking at 14 bucks for 3, or about 4.50 every 2 weeks.  I've tried both of those options, from Pur and Brita, and both cash out at around 2 weeks of regular use, regardless of what the little indicator at the top tells you the remaining life is on the filter.  At around the 2 week mark, the water starts to turn cloudy, flow is decreased to a trickle, and I can smell the water again...which also means, I'm likely getting that shiat in my system for a couple days before I notice the smell/taste is bad again.  With bottled water, I know at least every drop I'm drinking at home isn't taking days off my life-span.
 
2017-12-29 01:48:58 PM  

sigdiamond2000: People buy bottled water for the convenience, not the quality.

Does this really need to be explained for the five millionth f*cking time?


A little bit of planning and forethought can negate much of the convienience of bottled water.
 
2017-12-29 02:29:25 PM  

Wookie_Jesus: Buy a water filtration system and a reusable water bottle.
A Brita pitcher with 2 filters costs like $25 and a insulated water bottle cost $10
$35 dollars for over 600 16 oz glasses of water or  60 throw away bottles.
Save money and the environment.
If you drink 2 bottles a day you are (if you buy in bulk) at least $400 a year on water, in addition to what you pay your public utility to give you "free" water.
You probably cook with it, bathe in it, give it to your pets and wash your clothes in it.
Filter it and drink it.
Coke doesn't do a magic dance around the water they sell you. They just filter it and laugh at how much money they are making off of you.


$35 for 60 bottles of water? Christ, I didn't know Goldschlager sold water.

For $35, I can get 120 8oz bottles for a total of 965.5 fluid ounces.
 
2017-12-29 03:06:05 PM  

006andahalf: San Angelo, TX had the worst water I've tried outside of Africa. Tasted like propane, which made sense since there were propane extraction activities upstream from the water source.

Propane is odorless, so it doesn't actually taste like anything. What you can smell is ethanethiol, an additive added to propane in order to give it an odor.
 
2017-12-29 10:53:15 PM  

Cry Hentai And Release The Tentacles of War!: Wookie_Jesus: If you drink 2 bottles a day you are (if you buy in bulk) at least $400 a year on water, in addition to what you pay your public utility to give you "free" water.

What the fark brand of water are you buying that costs over 50 cents a bottle in bulk?

I get 24-packs 2-for-1 from Publix for $5. Or when those aren't on sale, the farking huge pack of bottles for slightly more.


I don't buy bottled water, I get my water for free. I just googled the price of 16 oz bottle by the case.
Still, if your public water is so bad that you are buying drinking water, maybe you should direct your outrage at your local municipality which is charging you money for water you do not drink.
 
2017-12-29 11:03:31 PM  

emtwo: Wookie_Jesus: Buy a water filtration system and a reusable water bottle.
A Brita pitcher with 2 filters costs like $25 and a insulated water bottle cost $10
$35 dollars for over 600 16 oz glasses of water or  60 throw away bottles.
Save money and the environment.
If you drink 2 bottles a day you are (if you buy in bulk) at least $400 a year on water, in addition to what you pay your public utility to give you "free" water.
You probably cook with it, bathe in it, give it to your pets and wash your clothes in it.
Filter it and drink it.
Coke doesn't do a magic dance around the water they sell you. They just filter it and laugh at how much money they are making off of you.

$35 for 60 bottles of water? Christ, I didn't know Goldschlager sold water.

For $35, I can get 120 8oz bottles for a total of 965.5 fluid ounces.


I was giving you the low cost introductory version. Also you are paying you municipality (unless you have well water) for water you don't drink and adding unneeded plastic to the environment.
After the initial $35 purchase of the the pitcher, 2 filters and bottle, you are paying $5 for the same 600 16 oz servings. You don't keep buying the pitcher and bottle, just a new filter every 3 months.
Show me where you can buy that in your plastic waste.
No wonder the scam is working on you fools.
 
2017-12-29 11:21:05 PM  

readymix: Wookie_Jesus: Buy a water filtration system and a reusable water bottle.
A Brita pitcher with 2 filters costs like $25 and a insulated water bottle cost $10
$35 dollars for over 600 16 oz glasses of water or  60 throw away bottles.
Save money and the environment.
If you drink 2 bottles a day you are (if you buy in bulk) at least $400 a year on water, in addition to what you pay your public utility to give you "free" water.
You probably cook with it, bathe in it, give it to your pets and wash your clothes in it.
Filter it and drink it.
Coke doesn't do a magic dance around the water they sell you. They just filter it and laugh at how much money they are making off of you.

I buy Target's cases of water.  I get 24 bottles, and it costs me 2.50, sometimes less depending on sales.  I've seen it as low as 1.99 for the 24 pack.  
With your math, one person and a 24 pack of bottled water can go 12 days for 2.50 cents.  At 12 days per case, you're looking at about 30.5 cases for a year, at $2.49, amounts to 75 bucks for a year of 32oz per day of bottled purified tap water.  
For a little more than 6 dollars per month, I can get water that is guaranteed to be clean.  And costs less than those Brita filters....which brings me to my next point.
3M has a chemical plant about 8 miles from my house.  Their dumping of shiat into the water table has caused our water to be absolutely disgusting.  It smells terrible, it is cloudy.  If I leave a bowl of it out for a few days, a yellow/white crust forms on the bowl.  Not just water spots or a ring, a full on crust.  Our neighbors have had 8 pets die in the 13 years I've lived here.  Every single one of them had some sort of kidney failure coupled with cancer nodules.  I have had 2 pets die of similar issues.  After the second pet died, we started giving our cat store bought purified water as well.  He doesn't have any of these issues.  As far as Brita/PuR/etc...filters, we've tried those, but remember that crust I spoke of earlier?  Tha ...


If your water is that polluted, first you need to scream at your politicians, second I would recommend a big bottle system. You get water delivered to your house in big jugs, no start up costs but it has a monthly cost. If you can afford it, buy a cooler from home depot for $180 and fill up the jugs at Meijer (or whatever grocery store you have) for pennies.
Also, still yell at the people taking your money for water you can't drink.
 
2017-12-30 12:58:12 AM  

Wookie_Jesus: Cry Hentai And Release The Tentacles of War!: Wookie_Jesus: If you drink 2 bottles a day you are (if you buy in bulk) at least $400 a year on water, in addition to what you pay your public utility to give you "free" water.

What the fark brand of water are you buying that costs over 50 cents a bottle in bulk?

I get 24-packs 2-for-1 from Publix for $5. Or when those aren't on sale, the farking huge pack of bottles for slightly more.

I don't buy bottled water, I get my water for free. I just googled the price of 16 oz bottle by the case.
Still, if your public water is so bad that you are buying drinking water, maybe you should direct your outrage at your local municipality which is charging you money for water you do not drink.


The price isn't high enough to override the convenience.

We have a filter tank in the fridge, but I only use it at home. I keep frozen water bottles in my lunchbox, because fark cleaning and keeping track of a bunch of reusable bottles and lids, we don't have a dishwasher. Not to mention I don't want to ruin a good reusable bottle by repeatedly freezing it.
 
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