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2017-12-28 10:35:50 AM  
Duh. She's the reigning head of state of 16 countries, and her grandson's engagement is the subject of endless gossip. Why would you expect otherwise?
 
2017-12-28 10:39:53 AM  
Did the Queen have commercial breaks every 3 minutes?  BBCA dragged what should have been a 50 minute show into 2 hours.
 
2017-12-28 10:45:13 AM  
So Who-fans are butthurt about the new Doctor being a woman but are perfectly fine listening to their female monarch prattle on about the state of affairs?
Seems kinda ironic to me.
 
2017-12-28 10:49:46 AM  

enry: Did the Queen have commercial breaks every 3 minutes?  BBCA dragged what should have been a 50 minute show into 2 hours.


That's why I wait and just Amazon it.
 
2017-12-28 10:54:05 AM  
Don't they have to?  I remember hearing that England isn't free or something, and if the queen demands the first night with your wife, they have to allow it or be drawn and quartered or some other English punishment.
 
2017-12-28 10:55:20 AM  
So, it's like every year?

oldfarthenry: So Who-fans are butthurt about the new Doctor being a woman


Are they? I honestly haven't noticed much controversy.
 
2017-12-28 11:00:59 AM  
Does it count if I watched her Christmas Speech on Netflix?

/Yes, it was "The Crown"
//Yes, I watch "The Crown"
///three
 
2017-12-28 11:02:33 AM  

NeedlesslyCanadian: Duh. She's the reigning head of state of 16 countries, and her grandson's engagement is the subject of endless gossip. Why would you expect otherwise?


All that plus the possibility of a royal nip slip.  How can you not watch.
 
2017-12-28 11:06:20 AM  

Sir Paul: Does it count if I watched her Christmas Speech on Netflix?

/Yes, it was "The Crown"
//Yes, I watch "The Crown"
///three


"The Crown" is awesome.

The Actress playing Margaret is drop dead gorgeous.
 
2017-12-28 11:07:40 AM  
the queen won't last as long as doctor who.  better see her while you still can
 
2017-12-28 11:08:28 AM  

Sir Paul: Does it count if I watched her Christmas Speech on Netflix?

/Yes, it was "The Crown"
//Yes, I watch "The Crown"
///three


My wife plans to start binging it today. Should I watch or read The Death of Stalin?
 
2017-12-28 11:21:18 AM  
Hell I watched the Queen's speech.  What the hell was I thinking?
 
2017-12-28 11:24:52 AM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: the queen won't last as long as doctor who.  better see her while you still can


She's lasted plenty long. She's been queen my entire lifetime and then some. She was crowned in 1952 and is still going.
 
2017-12-28 11:29:19 AM  

The English Major: Sir Paul: Does it count if I watched her Christmas Speech on Netflix?

/Yes, it was "The Crown"
//Yes, I watch "The Crown"
///three

My wife plans to start binging it today. Should I watch or read The Death of Stalin?


I like this season better than last season, so I say watch it.  Plus it gives you and the spouse something to talk about.
 
2017-12-28 11:29:32 AM  
FTA: Coming together to sit and watch the Queen's broadcast is still a traditional part of Christmas for many families, and it is one of the main reasons that year after year the programme (broadcast on multiple channels) comes top of the overnight ratings.

So business as usual then? Why is this a post?
 
2017-12-28 11:30:22 AM  

enry: Did the Queen have commercial breaks every 3 minutes?  BBCA dragged what should have been a 50 minute show into 2 hours.


BBC America is a awful, awful operation. 

How is it that the BBC, with 4 channels of premium content, can't muster a single channel? 

Answer : They're not looking for a channel for 'anglophiles' - they're looking for a male, young, geek channel. 

/advertising, you ruin everything.
 
2017-12-28 11:34:58 AM  

enry: Did the Queen have commercial breaks every 3 minutes?  BBCA dragged what should have been a 50 minute show into 2 hours.


As a seasoned vet of "The Walking Dead", I have learned the key is to not start watching till it's a third of the way done already. By the time you get to the end, you are generally watching the last few scenes in real time.
 
2017-12-28 11:35:35 AM  

oldfarthenry: So Who-fans are butthurt about the new Doctor being a woman but are perfectly fine listening to their female monarch prattle on about the state of affairs?
Seems kinda ironic to me.


Because it has nothing to do with "female"; it's change.  People dislike change.

The queen: old and familiar.

A Doctor who is not a white UK male?  New and scary.
 
2017-12-28 11:40:03 AM  

rubi_con_man: enry: Did the Queen have commercial breaks every 3 minutes?  BBCA dragged what should have been a 50 minute show into 2 hours.

BBC America is a awful, awful operation. 

How is it that the BBC, with 4 channels of premium content, can't muster a single channel? 

Answer : They're not looking for a channel for 'anglophiles' - they're looking for a male, young, geek channel. 

/advertising, you ruin everything.


IIRC, the major problem with BBC America is that they don't automatically get BBC content. The real BBC is required by some law to sell its content at market rates to foreign entities that want to rebroadcast it, even if it's one of its own offshoots.

So BBC America has to bid on BBC content just like any other channel that wanted to show it, increasing its reliance on advertising/ratings. That's why BBC News America is now on PBS, and why Planet Earth first broadcast re-dubbed on the Discovery Channel.

To make matters worse, that shiatshow of a channel AMC acquired a 49.9% stake in BBC America a few years back, and their influence can definitely be felt.
 
2017-12-28 11:45:01 AM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: the queen won't last as long as doctor who.  better see her while you still can


She's been queen since 11 years before it started. It has a bit of catching up to do, even once Liz finally croaks.
 
2017-12-28 11:45:05 AM  

Jensaarai: To make matters worse, that shiatshow of a channel AMC acquired a 49.9% stake in BBC America a few years back, and their influence can definitely be felt.


You mean it wasn't a coincidence they ran an Into the Badlands marathon during some holiday weekend last year?

/fark a la carte channels, gimme a la carte shows
//Dirk Gently is awesome, Orphan Black was phenomenal for about two and quarter seasons
 
2017-12-28 11:45:16 AM  

The English Major: Sir Paul: Does it count if I watched her Christmas Speech on Netflix?

/Yes, it was "The Crown"
//Yes, I watch "The Crown"
///three

My wife plans to start binging it today. Should I watch or read The Death of Stalin?


Both. AS an intelligent drama, "The Crown" has a couple of dry episodes in Season I that i fell asleep to, but Season II picks up the pace and makes me wish that there had been more.
 
2017-12-28 11:45:18 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: oldfarthenry: So Who-fans are butthurt about the new Doctor being a woman but are perfectly fine listening to their female monarch prattle on about the state of affairs?
Seems kinda ironic to me.

Because it has nothing to do with "female"; it's change.  People dislike change.

The queen: old and familiar.

A Doctor who is not a white UK male?  New and scary.


Doesn't seem to be much of an issue.
 
2017-12-28 11:47:44 AM  

oldfarthenry: So Who-fans are butthurt about the new Doctor being a woman but are perfectly fine listening to their female monarch prattle on about the state of affairs?
Seems kinda ironic to me.


except, the butt hurt portion of the fan base are a vast minority.  most of us just tell them to STFU and get over it.
 
2017-12-28 11:48:53 AM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: the queen won't last as long as doctor who.  better see her while you still can


I still say that she's holding on until Charles is dead so he never gets to become king.
 
2017-12-28 11:52:02 AM  

thespindrifter: The English Major: Sir Paul: Does it count if I watched her Christmas Speech on Netflix?

/Yes, it was "The Crown"
//Yes, I watch "The Crown"
///three

My wife plans to start binging it today. Should I watch or read The Death of Stalin?

Both. AS an intelligent drama, "The Crown" has a couple of dry episodes in Season I that i fell asleep to, but Season II picks up the pace and makes me wish that there had been more.


Yep. I'd recommend it just for the fun recaps of history. The guy playing Edward is an absolute home run this year, nails the contempt for normal people. I also thought the guy playing Tony was well cast.
 
2017-12-28 11:52:36 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: enry: Did the Queen have commercial breaks every 3 minutes?  BBCA dragged what should have been a 50 minute show into 2 hours.

As a seasoned vet of "The Walking Dead", I have learned the key is to not start watching till it's a third of the way done already. By the time you get to the end, you are generally watching the last few scenes in real time.


We have a TiVo so we didn't have to suffer that much but dropping in in clips from the show during the commercials making you think it started back up is kind of a dick move.

/Gave up on TWD and FTWD this season.
 
2017-12-28 11:55:13 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: FTA: Coming together to sit and watch the Queen's broadcast is still a traditional part of Christmas for many families, and it is one of the main reasons that year after year the programme (broadcast on multiple channels) comes top of the overnight ratings.

So business as usual then? Why is this a post?


Because subby is a shiatposter?
 
2017-12-28 11:59:29 AM  

TheManofPA: thespindrifter: The English Major: Sir Paul: Does it count if I watched her Christmas Speech on Netflix?

/Yes, it was "The Crown"
//Yes, I watch "The Crown"
///three

My wife plans to start binging it today. Should I watch or read The Death of Stalin?

Both. AS an intelligent drama, "The Crown" has a couple of dry episodes in Season I that i fell asleep to, but Season II picks up the pace and makes me wish that there had been more.

Yep. I'd recommend it just for the fun recaps of history. The guy playing Edward is an absolute home run this year, nails the contempt for normal people. I also thought the guy playing Tony was well cast.


Alright. Our 3 year-old loves British accents too; he's a Doctor Who, The Thick of It, and Monty Python fan. Haven't introduced him to The League of Gentlemen yet.
 
2017-12-28 12:06:31 PM  

thespindrifter: The English Major: Sir Paul: Does it count if I watched her Christmas Speech on Netflix?

/Yes, it was "The Crown"
//Yes, I watch "The Crown"
///three

My wife plans to start binging it today. Should I watch or read The Death of Stalin?

Both. AS an intelligent drama, "The Crown" has a couple of dry episodes in Season I that i fell asleep to, but Season II picks up the pace and makes me wish that there had been more.


I watched season 2 of "The Crown" at the same time I watched Season 2 of "Victoria". Interesting to compare the similarities and differences of the UK's two longest reigning monarch's.

/ RIP Lord M
 
2017-12-28 12:10:09 PM  
Did they play Bohemian Rhapsody?

That's my favorite!
 
2017-12-28 12:20:03 PM  

thespindrifter: The English Major: Sir Paul: Does it count if I watched her Christmas Speech on Netflix?

/Yes, it was "The Crown"
//Yes, I watch "The Crown"
///three

My wife plans to start binging it today. Should I watch or read The Death of Stalin?

Both. AS an intelligent drama, "The Crown" has a couple of dry episodes in Season I that i fell asleep to, but Season II picks up the pace and makes me wish that there had been more.


Season 1 was interesting in a "oh, that's how the monarchy works" sort of way, but it's not easy to binge-watch.
 
2017-12-28 12:32:20 PM  
There are other places online to watch shows like "Dr. Who."  That's what I did.  No commercials, and I think it ran close to 80 minutes.
 
2017-12-28 12:43:16 PM  

UberDave: That's why I wait and just Amazon it.


Yeah, but I have to admit that I was rather pissed off when I paid for and expected to watch it on Christmas day and it wasn't available until the 26th.
 
2017-12-28 01:07:33 PM  

oldfarthenry: So Who-fans are butthurt about the new Doctor being a woman


Only a very few loudmouths. And they get amplified by people expecting a backlash, pointing at the loudmouths as proof.
 
2017-12-28 01:09:54 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: A Doctor who is not a white UK male?  New and scary.


The Christmas Special isn't about the new Doctor.

It's the old Doctor's grand last hurrah, she appears for just a moment at the end.
 
2017-12-28 01:16:04 PM  

UberDave: enry: Did the Queen have commercial breaks every 3 minutes?  BBCA dragged what should have been a 50 minute show into 2 hours.

That's why I wait and just Amazon it.


I went to the theater last night. No commercials but a long "making of" and "we remember" segment before the real show.

It's in the theater again tonight.

/ It was free for me, Moviepass covered the $14 ticket
// Nice surprise, I expected to pay cash
 
2017-12-28 01:21:49 PM  

NeedlesslyCanadian: Duh. She's the reigning head of state of 16 countries, and her grandson's engagement is the subject of endless gossip. Why would you expect otherwise?


THIS.
 
2017-12-28 01:23:54 PM  

oldfarthenry: So Who-fans are butthurt about the new Doctor being a woman but are perfectly fine listening to their female monarch prattle on about the state of affairs?
Seems kinda ironic to me.


I'm not even a monarchist, but I'll take the Queen's fully formed paragraphs over "covfefe" any Christmas.

/get back to me when your first prime minister was Winston Churchill and you aren't shiatting yourself in a warehouse for the senile.
 
2017-12-28 01:25:15 PM  

Shazam999: Hell I watched the Queen's speech.  What the hell was I thinking?


Take a slug of Bombay gin everytime she says the royal "we". Good times.
 
2017-12-28 01:38:16 PM  

Sir Paul: Does it count if I watched her Christmas Speech on Netflix?

/Yes, it was "The Crown"
//Yes, I watch "The Crown"
///three


Just for fun, they should ask Peter Capaldi to play Prince Phillip in the final seasons of the show.
 
2017-12-28 01:58:07 PM  

ManateeGag: Dead for Tax Reasons: the queen won't last as long as doctor who.  better see her while you still can

I still say that she's holding on until Charles is dead so he never gets to become king.


I mean, it's possible that she's just not in a rush to die and will live for as long as she can.
 
2017-12-28 02:05:11 PM  
I used to like Moffat during the Smith era, but even I kind of watched the special more out of a sense of closure than really wanting to watch it. It just seems like the show has been spinning its wheels creatively  since the 50th anniversary and outside of a few standouts like Heaven Sent, I just haven't felt the same excitement out of the show that I have with something like Legion or American Gods. It especially seems like Capaldi's Doctor has gotten repetitive with his back and forth between weariness and finding a sense of purpose. Bill freshened things up a bit, but the Moffatt showrunning formula was getting a tad stale and it is really time for new blood.

Even if the new season has some issues, it'll at least be different and a new voice. As much as I liked Moffatt's work with nine, ten, and eleven, I just feel he ran out of things to say about the Doctor as a character midway through tweleve's run.
 
2017-12-28 02:38:44 PM  
The one with Freedy Mercury or Rami Malek ?
 
2017-12-28 02:58:18 PM  
Isn't this normally the case? My parents (well, mother) and sisters (all Canadian) make sure to watch her speech every year. My in-laws (mom-in-law and sisters-in-law...) do the same thing (except the brother-in-law who is a Brit - he doesn't care one way or the other).

Just kind of assumed this was the normal pattern.
 
2017-12-28 03:24:52 PM  

Jensaarai: So BBC America has to bid on BBC content just like any other channel that wanted to show it, increasing its reliance on advertising/ratings. That's why BBC News America is now on PBS, and why Planet Earth first broadcast re-dubbed on the Discovery Channel.


I could be wrong in the specific case of Planet Earth, but it would not surprise me to find it's a BBC/Discovery co-production. It's very common with documentaries, where footage and interviews with specialists can be recorded once, then skinned for the appropriate locale.
 
2017-12-28 05:03:38 PM  
For as much as the Colonies are relevant to the discussion (cue all the UK Farkers chiming in "Not at all", I know, I know...), it's because it's behind so many and such high paywalls here.

I love watching Dr. Who.  But BBC America doesn't show up until at least the 2nd most expensive channel package on our local cable monopoly, and new stuff doesn't appear on Amazon Prime for nearly 2 damned years after it airs, seemingly.  And, at least for those of us who came of age before 2010, paying individually to watch a TV episode once for $3 or $4 seems an awful lot like paying to listen to a song once for $1.  Stupid, that is.  So I'm supposed to spend as much as a DVD set should cost to watch the series one time?  I don't think so.

What I'm saying is I would have watched it, but there are insufficiently cheap means of doing so.  Not gonna pay Comcast an extra $30 a month for one show.

And your DVD collections are outrageously priced, too.  Just sayin'.
 
2017-12-28 06:03:05 PM  

enry: Did the Queen have commercial breaks every 3 minutes?  BBCA dragged what should have been a 50 minute show into 2 hours.


It was a 60 minute episode. Sure that is not much better, but it is... well shiatty
 
2017-12-28 06:37:53 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: enry: Did the Queen have commercial breaks every 3 minutes?  BBCA dragged what should have been a 50 minute show into 2 hours.

As a seasoned vet of "The Walking Dead", I have learned the key is to not start watching till it's a third of the way done already. By the time you get to the end, you are generally watching the last few scenes in real time.


This.

When Star Trek : TOS was on, a one-hour episode ran about 51 - 53 minutes of content.

Nowadays, that's down to about 41 minutes.  Starting the DVR playback about 20 minutes in is pretty much on the nose, depending how fast you skip through the ads.
 
2017-12-28 06:53:36 PM  

The English Major: TheManofPA: thespindrifter: The English Major: Sir Paul: Does it count if I watched her Christmas Speech on Netflix?

/Yes, it was "The Crown"
//Yes, I watch "The Crown"
///three

My wife plans to start binging it today. Should I watch or read The Death of Stalin?

Both. AS an intelligent drama, "The Crown" has a couple of dry episodes in Season I that i fell asleep to, but Season II picks up the pace and makes me wish that there had been more.

Yep. I'd recommend it just for the fun recaps of history. The guy playing Edward is an absolute home run this year, nails the contempt for normal people. I also thought the guy playing Tony was well cast.

Alright. Our 3 year-old loves British accents too; he's a Doctor Who, The Thick of It, and Monty Python fan. Haven't introduced him to The League of Gentlemen yet.


Jesus, I'm glad you're not my parent O_o

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Jim from Saint Paul: enry: Did the Queen have commercial breaks every 3 minutes?  BBCA dragged what should have been a 50 minute show into 2 hours.

As a seasoned vet of "The Walking Dead", I have learned the key is to not start watching till it's a third of the way done already. By the time you get to the end, you are generally watching the last few scenes in real time.

This.

When Star Trek : TOS was on, a one-hour episode ran about 51 - 53 minutes of content.

Nowadays, that's down to about 41 minutes.  Starting the DVR playback about 20 minutes in is pretty much on the nose, depending how fast you skip through the ads.


That ratio's been the rule for decades in American TV. 22 minutes ~= 30 minutes screen time.

Experiment: how long did the first full episode of The Simpsons last?

//23:09, in 1989.
 
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