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2017-12-28 06:44:58 AM  
Dez, your owner is more of a drama queen than you are and you're on the cusp of returning to the Super Bowl.

Take the cut.
 
2017-12-28 06:54:24 AM  
Trade him to the Browns.
 
2017-12-28 06:55:17 AM  
Good riddance, he hasn't been productive in a couple years and this year teams were more worried about Beasley than him. I'll take Butler and $15 million to spend on D over a guy who can't hang onto ball.
 
2017-12-28 06:58:19 AM  
Dez, you're 29. That means that you're on the downhill side of your career.

If you take a dime less than you could possibly make, you're doing yourself a disservice. Earn it while you can. The League doesn't offer a "thanks for taking less money" severance package.
 
2017-12-28 07:04:51 AM  
Dez Nuts.
 
2017-12-28 07:05:02 AM  
Shouldn't have dropped all those passes then, Dez.
 
2017-12-28 07:14:47 AM  
I'd like to hear players like Dez respond to a single question: " If you could only have one,  would you rather have a salary that's in the top 20 in the league, or win a Superbowl?" In effect he's answering it right now.
 
2017-12-28 07:44:03 AM  

WinoRhino: I'd like to hear players like Dez respond to a single question: " If you could only have one,  would you rather have a salary that's in the top 20 in the league, or win a Superbowl?" In effect he's answering it right now.


You'd think the merchandising/sponsor deals alone by being a Superbowl winner would make that a worthwhile decision.  Then again, Dallas had fallen apart in the playoffs plenty.
 
2017-12-28 07:45:46 AM  

Gonz: Dez, you're 29. That means that you're on the downhill side of your career.

If you take a dime less than you could possibly make, you're doing yourself a disservice. Earn it while you can. The League doesn't offer a "thanks for taking less money" severance package.


Fitzgerald would like a word with you regarding ageism.
 
2017-12-28 07:54:28 AM  

Gonz: Dez, you're 29. That means that you're on the downhill side of your career.

If you take a dime less than you could possibly make, you're doing yourself a disservice. Earn it while you can. The League doesn't offer a "thanks for taking less money" severance package.


if someone gave him that explanation, he'd drop it.
 
2017-12-28 07:54:37 AM  

Gonz: Dez, you're 29. That means that you're on the downhill side of your career.

If you take a dime less than you could possibly make, you're doing yourself a disservice. Earn it while you can. The League doesn't offer a "thanks for taking less money" severance package.


Tom Brady has had team friendly contracts for years, when he easily could have seeked out teams willing to pay him his worth. It seems to have worked out well for him and the Pats.
 
2017-12-28 08:01:41 AM  

skinink: Gonz: Dez, you're 29. That means that you're on the downhill side of your career.

If you take a dime less than you could possibly make, you're doing yourself a disservice. Earn it while you can. The League doesn't offer a "thanks for taking less money" severance package.

Tom Brady has had team friendly contracts for years, when he easily could have seeked out teams willing to pay him his worth. It seems to have worked out well for him and the Pats.


Careful with that line of thinking, some Seahawks fans accuse the Patriots of cheating because Brady structures his contracts the way he does. It gives the Patriots an unfair advantage because they've got more room to play with attracting talent at other positions.
 
2017-12-28 08:11:18 AM  

squidloe: skinink: Gonz: Dez, you're 29. That means that you're on the downhill side of your career.

If you take a dime less than you could possibly make, you're doing yourself a disservice. Earn it while you can. The League doesn't offer a "thanks for taking less money" severance package.

Tom Brady has had team friendly contracts for years, when he easily could have seeked out teams willing to pay him his worth. It seems to have worked out well for him and the Pats.

Careful with that line of thinking, some Seahawks fans accuse the Patriots of cheating because Brady structures his contracts the way he does. It gives the Patriots an unfair advantage because they've got more room to play with attracting talent at other positions.


Seahawks fans would accuse a rock of cheating. They aren't very bright.
 
2017-12-28 08:18:45 AM  

nquadroa: squidloe: skinink: Gonz: Dez, you're 29. That means that you're on the downhill side of your career.

If you take a dime less than you could possibly make, you're doing yourself a disservice. Earn it while you can. The League doesn't offer a "thanks for taking less money" severance package.

Tom Brady has had team friendly contracts for years, when he easily could have seeked out teams willing to pay him his worth. It seems to have worked out well for him and the Pats.

Careful with that line of thinking, some Seahawks fans accuse the Patriots of cheating because Brady structures his contracts the way he does. It gives the Patriots an unfair advantage because they've got more room to play with attracting talent at other positions.

Seahawks fans would accuse a rock of cheating. They aren't very bright.


YouAren'tWrong in your assessment.
 
2017-12-28 08:38:34 AM  
Another point about salary: making a WR or a RB the highest paid player on your team is foolish. Having a premier back or premier WR will not win you a Superbowl.
 
2017-12-28 08:40:39 AM  
Labor should never give money back to management.
 
2017-12-28 08:55:28 AM  

WinoRhino: Another point about salary: making a WR or a RB the highest paid player on your team is foolish. Having a premier back or premier WR will not win you a Superbowl.


Are you sure about that? The Detroit Lions had the greatest running back of his generation and perhaps the greatest receiver of his generation, and between them we won a playoff game!
 
2017-12-28 09:01:23 AM  
On Sunday I was starting to wonder if Dez was on the Seahawks' payroll.
 
2017-12-28 09:03:48 AM  

squidloe: some Seahawks fans accuse the Patriots of cheating because Brady structures his contracts the way he does.


Citation needed.

In fact, I'll lower the bar for you. Instead of "some Seahawks fans," how about "one Seahawks fan."
 
2017-12-28 09:08:47 AM  

Techhell: WinoRhino: Another point about salary: making a WR or a RB the highest paid player on your team is foolish. Having a premier back or premier WR will not win you a Superbowl.

Are you sure about that? The Detroit Lions had the greatest running back of his generation and perhaps the greatest receiver of his generation, and between them we won a playoff game!


And a Hall of Fame offensive tackle.
 
2017-12-28 09:10:38 AM  
So I was looking at Dez Bryant's stats.  He didn't have a great year. Frankly, he's not worth half his salary right now. His catch rate was 53% which is good for 69th in the league for targets of 50 or more, and 20th out of 22 if we only count those receivers targeted 100 times or more.

A lot of this is dependent upon his QB, and the fact he is the receiver on the field drawing the elite coverage, so let's compare him to the top receivers on other teams. Given that Dak Prescott is a good QB, and other elite receivers face the same defensive coverage, Bryant should finish toward the middle or higher than average. But he doesn't. Out of the top receivers on each team, his catch rate is good for 29th out of 32. His yards are 26th out of 32.

If you're into these type of things, there's an advanced stat called DVOA. This compares position players on average when facing the same types of game situations to "level the playing field" when making assessments on player value. The higher the number the better. A negative number means the player is below average.

Dez? 31st out of 32 at -11.6%.
 
2017-12-28 09:19:25 AM  
When is an owner going to give money back to the fans after admitting the team had a bad season? Oh right never but yall go ahead and slag Dez here
 
2017-12-28 09:30:32 AM  

ElwoodCuse: When is an owner going to give money back to the fans after admitting the team had a bad season? Oh right never but yall go ahead and slag Dez here


I completely agree. I would never fault someone for making every penny they possibly can. If Dez can get the Cowboys to pay him $25m per year, I say good for him. But I also think he isn't worth it, and it is a foolish decision for the team to do so if they want to win a Superbowl.
 
2017-12-28 09:41:32 AM  

Super Chronic: squidloe: some Seahawks fans accuse the Patriots of cheating because Brady structures his contracts the way he does.

Citation needed.

In fact, I'll lower the bar for you. Instead of "some Seahawks fans," how about "one Seahawks fan."


Him and 3 Championships but only 1 that is unanimously agreed upon. That's some.
 
2017-12-28 09:50:26 AM  

WinoRhino: I'd like to hear players like Dez respond to a single question: " If you could only have one,  would you rather have a salary that's in the top 20 in the league, or win a Superbowl?" In effect he's answering it right now.


I guess if you could guarantee SB wins this might make sense. You take the contract and the money every time, too many variables on the road to the SB. Your QB twists his knee, you aren't getting a ring.

There is life after the career and too many players find themselves pawning the ring anyhow.
 
2017-12-28 10:00:29 AM  

rjakobi: you're on the cusp of returning to the Super Bowl.


Huh?

Did Dez get tickets to the last one?

Or can you now return to something you've never been to before?
 
2017-12-28 10:02:55 AM  
The Brady pay comparison is flawed. His type of contract, where pay is back loaded and continues after the player retires, is only really offered to quarterbacks. Heck, Jerry Jones wrote the book on that style contract with Aikman and there is no way he is going to go that route for a receiver.

There is no thing such as loyalty, take the money.
 
2017-12-28 10:32:56 AM  
Don't worry, he'll show his worth in the playoffs...oh never mind.
 
2017-12-28 10:39:02 AM  

nquadroa: squidloe: skinink: Gonz: Dez, you're 29. That means that you're on the downhill side of your career.

If you take a dime less than you could possibly make, you're doing yourself a disservice. Earn it while you can. The League doesn't offer a "thanks for taking less money" severance package.

Tom Brady has had team friendly contracts for years, when he easily could have seeked out teams willing to pay him his worth. It seems to have worked out well for him and the Pats.

Careful with that line of thinking, some Seahawks fans accuse the Patriots of cheating because Brady structures his contracts the way he does. It gives the Patriots an unfair advantage because they've got more room to play with attracting talent at other positions.

Seahawks fans would accuse a rock of cheating. They aren't very bright.


And Pats fans cry like everything that's pointed out is accusing them of cheating.

The fact is that it gives them a huge advantage, year after year. It's the equivalent of about $10 million more cap space than everyone else.

It's not cheating; it's still a big advantage.

...and, uh, Russ, now that you have an independent wealthy wife, you should be doing the same thing, ya jag.
 
2017-12-28 10:40:16 AM  

Super Chronic: On Sunday I was starting to wonder if Dez was on the Seahawks' payroll.


Yeah, I was gonna say, Dez won that game for Seattle. Not a strong game to demand money after.
 
2017-12-28 10:44:05 AM  
No running game, so cover the aging #1 receiver with a young QB. Pretty easy to figure out why his workload has slipped.

T.O. part 2.
 
2017-12-28 10:53:27 AM  
Dez Bryant, Terrell Owens and their ilk make guys like Larry Fitzgerald all the more appreciated.

/prima donna babies
 
2017-12-28 11:08:07 AM  
PAY THE MAN!

lulz
 
2017-12-28 11:08:26 AM  

skinink: Gonz: Dez, you're 29. That means that you're on the downhill side of your career.

If you take a dime less than you could possibly make, you're doing yourself a disservice. Earn it while you can. The League doesn't offer a "thanks for taking less money" severance package.

Tom Brady has had team friendly contracts for years, when he easily could have seeked out teams willing to pay him his worth. It seems to have worked out well for him and the Pats.


Has also skirted the salary cap by trump-level funneling of team business to his training business.
 
2017-12-28 11:11:52 AM  

squidloe: skinink: Gonz: Dez, you're 29. That means that you're on the downhill side of your career.

If you take a dime less than you could possibly make, you're doing yourself a disservice. Earn it while you can. The League doesn't offer a "thanks for taking less money" severance package.

Tom Brady has had team friendly contracts for years, when he easily could have seeked out teams willing to pay him his worth. It seems to have worked out well for him and the Pats.

Careful with that line of thinking, some Seahawks fans accuse the Patriots of cheating because Brady structures his contracts the way he does. It gives the Patriots an unfair advantage because they've got more room to play with attracting talent at other positions.


How the hell is that cheating. That is like saying the Warriors cheat or the Spurs!
 
2017-12-28 11:12:06 AM  

WinoRhino: I'd like to hear players like Dez respond to a single question: " If you could only have one,  would you rather have a salary that's in the top 20 in the league, or win a Superbowl?" In effect he's answering it right now.


Salary is right there in ink, by taking a pay cut he'd improve his SB chances but nowhere near a certainty. If you offer a player a certain SB I guess most would take the SB, but you can't offer that.
 
2017-12-28 11:16:06 AM  

thanksagainandagain: Trade him to the Browns.


You could probably get a 1st and 2nd round draft pic for Bryant -- a Brown's 1st and 2nd pic no less.
 
2017-12-28 11:16:19 AM  

xaks: rjakobi: you're on the cusp of returning to the Super Bowl.

Huh?

Did Dez get tickets to the last one?

Or can you now return to something you've never been to before?


Yeah, that's right.  I was thinking a bit prematurely there.
 
2017-12-28 11:18:43 AM  
How this moron stays on the team is beyond me. What a whiney little sack of shiat.
throw me the ball!  He then fumbles it. Throw me the ball! He tips a ball up to get intercepted.
You'd figure he would eventually realize it's a team game and to use his talents to help the team.
 
2017-12-28 11:30:46 AM  

rjakobi: Dez, your owner is more of a drama queen than you are and you're on the cusp of returning to the Super Bowl.

Take the cut.


I'll agree with that first part all day, but on the cusp of a Super Bowl?  Ummmm no
 
2017-12-28 11:32:18 AM  

sotua: Salary is right there in ink, by taking a pay cut he'd improve his SB chances but nowhere near a certainty. If you offer a player a certain SB I guess most would take the SB, but you can't offer that.


HotWingConspiracy: I guess if you could guarantee SB wins this might make sense.


Yeah, you're both right. One is a certainty and the other isn't. And I don't fault someone from trying to make as much money as they can; when you're out of the league at 38, who cares about a ring? Some players feel differently. I'm not judging either way.
 
2017-12-28 12:00:30 PM  

sotua: WinoRhino: I'd like to hear players like Dez respond to a single question: " If you could only have one,  would you rather have a salary that's in the top 20 in the league, or win a Superbowl?" In effect he's answering it right now.

Salary is right there in ink, by taking a pay cut he'd improve his SB chances but nowhere near a certainty. If you offer a player a certain SB I guess most would take the SB, but you can't offer that.


Super Bowl win? Cowboy Dez still hasnt even seen a second playoff win yet and you are talking Super Bowl wins?

bwahahahahahaha


Maybe set the sights a bit lower, like be in the playoffs once in awhile and catch the ball. That'd be a huge step up

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
2017-12-28 12:09:43 PM  
Your move jerruh

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2017-12-28 12:10:07 PM  
Yeah but what about all the championships Dez helped Dallas win...oh, sorry never mind.
 
2017-12-28 12:15:10 PM  

squidloe: Super Chronic: squidloe: some Seahawks fans accuse the Patriots of cheating because Brady structures his contracts the way he does.

Citation needed.

In fact, I'll lower the bar for you. Instead of "some Seahawks fans," how about "one Seahawks fan."

Him and 3 Championships but only 1 that is unanimously agreed upon. That's some.


Yes, yes, I know, you're still trying to make that a thing, but find me a Seahawk fan who ever said that Brady's below-market salary somehow constitutes cheating.
 
2017-12-28 12:22:08 PM  
He is a fine football player. But he is overpaid and dallas is finally getting out from cap hell. Trade him if you can, cut him if you can't.
 
2017-12-28 12:27:19 PM  

mikaloyd: sotua: WinoRhino: I'd like to hear players like Dez respond to a single question: " If you could only have one,  would you rather have a salary that's in the top 20 in the league, or win a Superbowl?" In effect he's answering it right now.

Salary is right there in ink, by taking a pay cut he'd improve his SB chances but nowhere near a certainty. If you offer a player a certain SB I guess most would take the SB, but you can't offer that.

Super Bowl win? Cowboy Dez still hasnt even seen a second playoff win yet and you are talking Super Bowl wins?

bwahahahahahaha


Maybe set the sights a bit lower, like be in the playoffs once in awhile and catch the ball. That'd be a huge step up

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Exactly. This isn't "Superbowl vs Salary" question, Cowboys are 2-4 in the playoffs for the past 10 years. Start with making the playoffs more often than a little under every other year.
 
2017-12-28 12:29:38 PM  
How many Cowboys losses over the past two years can be directly attributed to Dez Bryant?
 
2017-12-28 12:38:56 PM  

natural316: rjakobi: Dez, your owner is more of a drama queen than you are and you're on the cusp of returning to the Super Bowl.

Take the cut.

I'll agree with that first part all day, but on the cusp of a Super Bowl?  Ummmm no


All it needs is a competent Tight End, a more mobile defensive line, a more reliable punter and  the public crucifixion of Jerry Jones.
 
2017-12-28 12:46:18 PM  
I blame the NFL players kneeling.  How are you going to sell pizza in an environment like that?
What?  Oh.  Never mind.
 
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