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2017-12-15 02:21:15 PM  
Can someone explain this headline to me in a way that doesn't make it racist?
 
2017-12-15 02:47:14 PM  

sigdiamond2000: Can someone explain this headline to me in a way that doesn't make it racist?


No, it's pretty much just racism.  RGIII isn't good, but Joe Flaco is likely worse. Kapernick can use both in his argument, even though Flaco is white.

I'm sure this confuses the fark out of Subby
 
2017-12-15 02:47:26 PM  

sigdiamond2000: Can someone explain this headline to me in a way that doesn't make it racist?


I took the headline as being sarcastic... the NFL's version of Mr. Glass RGIII getting 2 offers while Kap not getting any certainly makes his case a bit more.
 
2017-12-15 02:54:49 PM  

dletter: sigdiamond2000: Can someone explain this headline to me in a way that doesn't make it racist?

I took the headline as being sarcastic... the NFL's version of Mr. Glass RGIII getting 2 offers while Kap not getting any certainly makes his case a bit more.


I hope that's the case. I'd say that's being pretty generous, though.
 
2017-12-15 02:59:23 PM  

dletter: the NFL's version of Mr. Glass RGIII


C'mon. The NFL's Mr. Glass wears the real Mr. Glass's color scheme.

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2017-12-15 03:01:49 PM  
The fact that RG3 was declining offers and kaperdink wasn't getting any.. Yea that is bad
 
2017-12-15 03:02:51 PM  
Why didn't Seattle sign Kapernik? Why didn't San Francisco keep him? I never can get an answer as to why those two cities who had the opportunity to sign him and would have no reason to collude to keep him out of the league, didn't sign him. All I hear is "Kap is obviously better than (insert white QB) so the league is colluding against him!"

Or is the theory Seattle is in on the collusion? The entire league sat down and decided they were going to collude against a marginal QB becase he kneeled for the anthem, even owners in liberal cities who supported the protests? Protests the league also supported, by the way, but still felt the need to secretly collude against. Just because they're evil I guess. Jerry Jones is Monty Burns, confirmed.
 
2017-12-15 03:04:44 PM  
Mr Glass?

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2017-12-15 03:06:22 PM  

js34603: All I hear is "Kap is obviously better than (insert white QB) so the league is colluding against him!"


Mike Glennon's white?!
 
2017-12-15 03:06:39 PM  

kkinnison: The fact that RG3 was declining offers and kaperdink wasn't getting any.. Yea that is bad


Not near as bad as Colon's attemptsvto play QB

He got BENCHED for BLAINE GABBERT
 
2017-12-15 03:08:46 PM  

dletter: sigdiamond2000: Can someone explain this headline to me in a way that doesn't make it racist?

I took the headline as being sarcastic... the NFL's version of Mr. Glass RGIII getting 2 offers while Kap not getting any certainly makes his case a bit more.


Lol, I thought of Glass Joe from  mike tysons punch out when I read that.
 
2017-12-15 03:11:58 PM  

sigdiamond2000: Can someone explain this headline to me in a way that doesn't make it racist?


Can someone explain this post to me in a way that doesn't make it racist?

They're both quarterbacks known more for mobility than accuracy, have both been out of the league the same amount of time, and have about the same level of name recognition.
 
2017-12-15 03:15:04 PM  

FLMountainMan: sigdiamond2000: Can someone explain this headline to me in a way that doesn't make it racist?

Can someone explain this post to me in a way that doesn't make it racist?

They're both quarterbacks known more for mobility than accuracy, have both been out of the league the same amount of time, and have about the same level of name recognition.


...and 1 doesn't come with a media shiatstorm. Colin made his bed, not the team owners.
 
2017-12-15 03:22:15 PM  

EyeballKid: js34603: All I hear is "Kap is obviously better than (insert white QB) so the league is colluding against him!"

Mike Glennon's white?!


He's damn near transparent...
 
2017-12-15 03:22:55 PM  

sigdiamond2000: Can someone explain this headline to me in a way that doesn't make it racist?


I think it was sarcasm.   basically if there were teams willing to re-sign RGIII it PROVES there was collusion against Kap who is a similar type of QB who has Super bowl experience
 
2017-12-15 03:25:07 PM  

EyeballKid: C'mon. The NFL's Mr. Glass wears the real Mr. Glass's color scheme.


Yes he does, but the real Mr. Glass isn't Bridgewater, it's Bradford. You fart at that guy too strong and his knee explodes.
 
2017-12-15 03:29:07 PM  

Magorn: I think it was sarcasm.


No one is allowed to be sarcastic but me.
 
2017-12-15 03:35:44 PM  
Maybe everyone can also find some actor that you think is pretty good but not getting enough good movie roles to champion next.
That's why Nick Cannon never gets great leads or Oscar nominations. Collusion and racism among studio heads.
 
2017-12-15 03:40:14 PM  
I'm not aware of RGIII being involved in any protest activity.
 
2017-12-15 03:50:16 PM  

FLMountainMan: sigdiamond2000: Can someone explain this headline to me in a way that doesn't make it racist?

Can someone explain this post to me in a way that doesn't make it racist?

They're both quarterbacks known more for mobility than accuracy, have both been out of the league the same amount of time, and have about the same level of name recognition.


But they don't have the "same level of name recognition," nor is that name recognition the same type.  RGIII's time in the league hasn't been nearly as polarizing as Kaepernick's.  RGIII has never worn a Castro shirt to a press conference in Miami.  He never wore socks depicting cops as pigs.  His girlfriend never compared an owner to slave owners.

Let's all stop pretending like Kaepernick hasn't repeatedly and unashamedly shot himself in the foot over and over and over again and that owners don't have to ignore somebody's politics and public image when choosing whether or not to sign them.
 
2017-12-15 04:08:05 PM  

BigSquibowski: ...and 1 doesn't come with a media shiatstorm. Colin made his bed, not the team owners.


This right here. It's not what he did that was the problem, it's the attention he caused doing it. Teams don't want to deal with that level of media distraction. They just want to play football. Kaep is a huge disruption to team focus and game preparation where ever he goes and no team is interested in that much baggage week in and week out.
 
2017-12-15 04:13:02 PM  

js34603: owners in liberal cities


HAHAHA!

you see, folks, if you're a billionaire sports franchise owner in a ::shudder:: "Liberal" city, that means you're a far-left, hippie peacenik, socialist , too!
 
2017-12-15 04:13:54 PM  
I don't think the reason that Kaepernick isn't on a roster is racist personally. I think that the owners just look at him and see someone that is polarizing and also see that he isn't likely the guy to bring a city a championship and don't feel the headache in terms of PR is worth it to them.

Sucks for Kaepernick but I'm sure he knew that speaking up could have that consequence.
 
2017-12-15 04:21:40 PM  
How big an asshole do you have to be (Kaepernick) that you can't get a job and Jay Cutler gets multi-million dollar contracts?

Isn't part of being a quarterback being a leader of the team?  Maybe the perception is that you're an average QB who doesn't have much leadership potential, so they are looking elsewhere?
 
2017-12-15 04:23:10 PM  

Timmy the Tumor: How big an asshole do you have to be (Kaepernick) that you can't get a job and Jay Cutler gets multi-million dollar contracts?

Isn't part of being a quarterback being a leader of the team?  Maybe the perception is that you're an average QB who doesn't have much leadership potential, so they are looking elsewhere?


Both of your last two sentences are contradicted by the fact that Cutler has a job.
 
2017-12-15 04:38:31 PM  

Timmy the Tumor: How big an asshole do you have to be (Kaepernick) that you can't get a job and Jay Cutler gets multi-million dollar contracts?

Isn't part of being a quarterback being a leader of the team?  Maybe the perception is that you're an average QB who doesn't have much leadership potential, so they are looking elsewhere?


Assholishness aside... Kaepernick is damaged goods... he is a huge reclamation project due to Kelly and Harbough screwing with his QB mentality.
 
2017-12-15 04:43:17 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: I don't think the reason that Kaepernick isn't on a roster is racist personally. I think that the owners just look at him and see someone that is polarizing and also see that he isn't likely the guy to bring a city a championship and don't feel the headache in terms of PR is worth it to them.

Sucks for Kaepernick but I'm sure he knew that speaking up could have that consequence.


It's not racist, but the decision not to sign him is based on "We don't want to offend our racist faux-patriot fanbase."
 
2017-12-15 04:48:41 PM  

IAmRight: Representative of the unwashed masses: I don't think the reason that Kaepernick isn't on a roster is racist personally. I think that the owners just look at him and see someone that is polarizing and also see that he isn't likely the guy to bring a city a championship and don't feel the headache in terms of PR is worth it to them.

Sucks for Kaepernick but I'm sure he knew that speaking up could have that consequence.

It's not racist, but the decision not to sign him is based on "We don't want to offend our racist faux-patriot fanbase."


The counterpoint is that the owners want to make money. If bringing Kaepernick means they make less then it's not worth it to them.
 
2017-12-15 04:51:08 PM  

xaks: kkinnison: The fact that RG3 was declining offers and kaperdink wasn't getting any.. Yea that is bad

Not near as bad as Colon's attemptsvto play QB

He got BENCHED for BLAINE GABBERT


You'd think you'd have a point, but every other QB that has been benched for Blaine Gabbert has been hired since Kaepernick left his contract, including Luke McCown.

Luke McCown: 2017 Cowboys
Chad Henne (TWICE!): Still a Jaguar
Drew Stanton: Still a Cardinal.
 
2017-12-15 04:54:01 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: IAmRight: Representative of the unwashed masses: I don't think the reason that Kaepernick isn't on a roster is racist personally. I think that the owners just look at him and see someone that is polarizing and also see that he isn't likely the guy to bring a city a championship and don't feel the headache in terms of PR is worth it to them.

Sucks for Kaepernick but I'm sure he knew that speaking up could have that consequence.

It's not racist, but the decision not to sign him is based on "We don't want to offend our racist faux-patriot fanbase."

The counterpoint is that the owners want to make money. If bringing Kaepernick means they make less then it's not worth it to them.


There's no evidence that would suggest they would.

But hey, black people and liberals don't live in cities and have money. Let's keep ignoring them as a group.

This is a league that had multiple teams willing to sign a guy that tortured and murdered dogs, who was never even as good as Kaepernick (except in Madden 2004).
 
2017-12-15 04:57:24 PM  

IAmRight: Representative of the unwashed masses: I don't think the reason that Kaepernick isn't on a roster is racist personally. I think that the owners just look at him and see someone that is polarizing and also see that he isn't likely the guy to bring a city a championship and don't feel the headache in terms of PR is worth it to them.

Sucks for Kaepernick but I'm sure he knew that speaking up could have that consequence.

It's not racist, but the decision not to sign him is based on "We don't want to offend our racist faux-patriot fanbase."


This. 
He is statistically about the same as Andy Dalton. 
But rather than getting a panicky, bowl of tapioca pudding with ears that can't win big games you get a boycott-inducing, public relations pain in the ass that can't win big games. 

He's not worth the trouble, but I support the guy.
 
2017-12-15 04:58:35 PM  

IAmRight: xaks: kkinnison: The fact that RG3 was declining offers and kaperdink wasn't getting any.. Yea that is bad

Not near as bad as Colon's attemptsvto play QB

He got BENCHED for BLAINE GABBERT

You'd think you'd have a point, but every other QB that has been benched for Blaine Gabbert has been hired since Kaepernick left his contract, including Luke McCown.

Luke McCown: 2017 Cowboys
Chad Henne (TWICE!): Still a Jaguar
Drew Stanton: Still a Cardinal.


The important point is, 2 of those 3 are much better QBs, 1, Stanton, is just as bad but cheaper and not a giant media PITA
 
2017-12-15 05:03:43 PM  

Timmy the Tumor: How big an asshole do you have to be (Kaepernick) that you can't get a job and Jay Cutler gets multi-million dollar contracts?

Isn't part of being a quarterback being a leader of the team?  Maybe the perception is that you're an average QB who doesn't have much leadership potential, so they are looking elsewhere?


Cutler couldn't get a job, that's why he retired.  Then Tannehill went down and Cutler, who knows the offense Adam Gase runs (and who ran it efficiently) was brought in for that reason alone.  If Tannehill never went down, Cutler would be in the broadcast booth like he'd already planned to be.
 
2017-12-15 05:19:31 PM  

dletter: sigdiamond2000: Can someone explain this headline to me in a way that doesn't make it racist?

I took the headline as being sarcastic... the NFL's version of Mr. Glass RGIII getting 2 offers while Kap not getting any certainly makes his case a bit more.


I don't think it helps much.

It is pretty damned plain to see that it isn't his skills keeping him from getting offers. He is better than a significant number of starters and pretty much any backup on a roster.

The question is did the owners collude or did they just independently decide they wanted nothing to do with him. The only thing that will prove that is a smoking gun or someone breaking ranks.
 
2017-12-15 05:27:40 PM  
Bag O'Glass
 
2017-12-15 05:32:32 PM  

dwrash: Timmy the Tumor: How big an asshole do you have to be (Kaepernick) that you can't get a job and Jay Cutler gets multi-million dollar contracts?

Isn't part of being a quarterback being a leader of the team?  Maybe the perception is that you're an average QB who doesn't have much leadership potential, so they are looking elsewhere?

Assholishness aside... Kaepernick is damaged goods... he is a huge reclamation project due to Kelly and Harbough screwing with his QB mentality.


Uhh, he was successful under Harbaugh, it was Tomsula, and the fact that a running QB doesn't last long before he gets seriously injured that screwed him. If Kaps 1st read doesnt pan out he runs, if he cant run, he gets sacked or throws garbage.
 
2017-12-15 05:39:33 PM  
Meanwhile in civilized countries, police are currently in the middle of NOT hunting racial and ethnic minorities for sport.
 
2017-12-15 05:45:41 PM  

mrsleep: dwrash: Timmy the Tumor: How big an asshole do you have to be (Kaepernick) that you can't get a job and Jay Cutler gets multi-million dollar contracts?

Isn't part of being a quarterback being a leader of the team?  Maybe the perception is that you're an average QB who doesn't have much leadership potential, so they are looking elsewhere?

Assholishness aside... Kaepernick is damaged goods... he is a huge reclamation project due to Kelly and Harbough screwing with his QB mentality.

Uhh, he was successful under Harbaugh, it was Tomsula, and the fact that a running QB doesn't last long before he gets seriously injured that screwed him. If Kaps 1st read doesnt pan out he runs, if he cant run, he gets sacked or throws garbage.


Also the fact that the entire team was torn apart and basically every decent player departed.
 
2017-12-15 05:47:33 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: IAmRight: Representative of the unwashed masses: I don't think the reason that Kaepernick isn't on a roster is racist personally. I think that the owners just look at him and see someone that is polarizing and also see that he isn't likely the guy to bring a city a championship and don't feel the headache in terms of PR is worth it to them.

Sucks for Kaepernick but I'm sure he knew that speaking up could have that consequence.

It's not racist, but the decision not to sign him is based on "We don't want to offend our racist faux-patriot fanbase."

The counterpoint is that the owners want to make money. If bringing Kaepernick means they make less then it's not worth it to them.


More of an extra-point then a counter.
 
2017-12-15 06:14:29 PM  

dletter: sigdiamond2000: Can someone explain this headline to me in a way that doesn't make it racist?

I took the headline as being sarcastic... the NFL's version of Mr. Glass RGIII getting 2 offers while Kap not getting any certainly makes his case a bit more.


I saw RG3 on ESPN the day after he said that. He said he turned it down because they wanted him to come in as a number 3 or 4 and since it was late in the season, he would have been behind as far as learning the offense etc. and wouldn't get the opportunity he wanted to play and compete for a roster spot.

Basically he wants to go to a team that will at minimum guarantee him a roster sport at number 2 so he can also compete for the starting job.
 
2017-12-15 06:17:23 PM  

dletter: sigdiamond2000: Can someone explain this headline to me in a way that doesn't make it racist?

I took the headline as being sarcastic... the NFL's version of Mr. Glass RGIII getting 2 offers while Kap not getting any certainly makes his case a bit more.


I sincerely thank you for saving the thread, good sir. I was beginning to get a little worried.
 
2017-12-15 06:18:21 PM  
What the f*** kind of moron thinks this has to do with f****** racism.? Nobody ever said that nobody hired this guy because he was black.
 
2017-12-15 06:35:51 PM  

jaylectricity: What the f*** kind of moron thinks this has to do with f****** racism.? Nobody ever said that nobody hired this guy because he was black.


The issue isn't that Kap himself is black. The issue is that Kap has publicly said that he doesn't like the fact that police routinely violate black people's civil rights.

THAT'S what this issue has to do with racism.
 
2017-12-15 06:36:16 PM  

jaylectricity: What the f*** kind of moron thinks this has to do with f****** racism.? Nobody ever said that nobody hired this guy because he was black.


The fark pearl clutching, pants wetting army likes to pretend everything is racist so they can swoop in on their trusty steed and play the hero defending them with walls-o-text explaining how they completely understand the societal issues in the world.

Also, they probably think you're racist because you said it's not racist.
 
2017-12-15 06:37:51 PM  

King Something: jaylectricity: What the f*** kind of moron thinks this has to do with f****** racism.? Nobody ever said that nobody hired this guy because he was black.

The issue isn't that Kap himself is black. The issue is that Kap has publicly said that he doesn't like the fact that police routinely violate black people's civil rights.

THAT'S what this issue has to do with racism.


THAT and racism has nothing to do with why Kaepernick doesn't have a job.
 
2017-12-15 06:51:21 PM  

King Something: Meanwhile in civilized countries, police are currently in the middle of NOT hunting racial and ethnic minorities for sport.


Daniel Shaver begs to differ.
 
2017-12-15 06:54:24 PM  

King Something: jaylectricity: What the f*** kind of moron thinks this has to do with f****** racism.? Nobody ever said that nobody hired this guy because he was black.

The issue isn't that Kap himself is black. The issue is that Kap has publicly said that he doesn't like the fact that police routinely violate black people's civil rights.

THAT'S what this issue has to do with racism.


I'm pretty sure I saw plenty of players protest this year and they remain to stay employed. I wonder what the difference is?
 
2017-12-15 06:56:59 PM  

xaks: IAmRight: xaks: kkinnison: The fact that RG3 was declining offers and kaperdink wasn't getting any.. Yea that is bad

Not near as bad as Colon's attemptsvto play QB

He got BENCHED for BLAINE GABBERT

You'd think you'd have a point, but every other QB that has been benched for Blaine Gabbert has been hired since Kaepernick left his contract, including Luke McCown.

Luke McCown: 2017 Cowboys
Chad Henne (TWICE!): Still a Jaguar
Drew Stanton: Still a Cardinal.

The important point is, 2 of those 3 are much better QBs, 1, Stanton, is just as bad but cheaper and not a giant media PITA


You're really going with "Luke mccown and Chad henne are much better than Kaepernick"?

Much better? Mccown's passer rating is 71. Henne's is 75. Neither of them are much better than anyone.
 
2017-12-15 07:09:11 PM  

BKITU: EyeballKid: C'mon. The NFL's Mr. Glass wears the real Mr. Glass's color scheme.

Yes he does, but the real Mr. Glass isn't Bridgewater, it's Bradford. You fart at that guy too strong and his knee explodes.


Based on the NFL QBs on Facebook posts, I'd say that is one of Bradford's fetishes.
 
2017-12-15 07:43:47 PM  
Kapernick elected to test the free agent market. Got no bites, got a try out with a few teams, Seattle didn't want him but Carroll says he is a NFL starting QB, who is Seattle's back up? Baltimore would have signed him if it worn't for his girlfriends tweet comparing the Owner and Ray Leis to Django Unchained.Can someone explain why he is "Owed" a position in the NFL?
 
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