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(Daily Mail)   First the robot takes away your job and makes you homeless, then the robot takes away your space on the sidewalk   ( dailymail.co.uk) divider line
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2017-12-13 10:56:00 AM  
The money spent to develop and deploy this robot could have provided a place to stay and support for those homeless people. Or, they could have paid someone to do the same job.
 
2017-12-13 11:30:04 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: The money spent to develop and deploy this robot could have provided a place to stay and support for those homeless people. Or, they could have paid someone to do the same job.





from article
The robots can be rented for as little as $7 an hour, far less than the minimum wage of $14 per hour in California.
 
2017-12-13 11:33:15 AM  

invictus2: Tr0mBoNe: The money spent to develop and deploy this robot could have provided a place to stay and support for those homeless people. Or, they could have paid someone to do the same job.

from article
The robots can be rented for as little as $7 an hour, far less than the minimum wage of $14 per hour in California.


Ahhh so it's just cheap hate, not expensive hate like I assumed. That makes it allllll better.
 
2017-12-13 11:33:50 AM  
Next they'll be marrying our daughters!
 
2017-12-13 11:37:20 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: The money spent to develop and deploy this robot could have provided a place to stay and support for those homeless people. Or, they could have paid someone to do the same job.


They have places to stay, and there is SO MUCH support for the homeless in SF.
One problem is that the help (aside from the free needles) and the shelters come with rules, and these people don't want to follow the rules, if they did want to follow rules they probably wouldn't be homeless.

The bigger problem is mental illness, and you cant force people into treatment.
 
2017-12-13 11:37:42 AM  
It'll take 3 minutes before its tipped over and rendered useless.
5 minutes before it gets tagged by a gang.
10 minutes before it gets stolen and sold for parts.

[They] 'put a tarp over it, knocked it over and put barbecue sauce on all the sensors,' Ms Scarlett said.
Looks like it already has been.
 
2017-12-13 11:38:32 AM  
How are those all not stolen by now? In Dallas they'd make it about 10  feet before being thrown in to a shopping cart and headed to South Dallas and traded for drugs or booze
 
2017-12-13 11:40:44 AM  
 
2017-12-13 11:41:38 AM  
Does it use a stankiness algorithm to figure out which people are the homeless ones or does it just discriminate against folks with smaller egos than your average techbro?
 
2017-12-13 11:49:21 AM  

IHadMeAVision: Does it use a stankiness algorithm to figure out which people are the homeless ones or does it just discriminate against folks with smaller egos than your average techbro?

"while odour detectors can also sense other changes in the area..."

I'd say stankiness.
 
2017-12-13 11:55:43 AM  
It looks like a Dalek.
 
2017-12-13 11:56:53 AM  
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2017-12-13 11:57:09 AM  

mrsleep: Tr0mBoNe: The money spent to develop and deploy this robot could have provided a place to stay and support for those homeless people. Or, they could have paid someone to do the same job.

They have places to stay, and there is SO MUCH support for the homeless in SF.
One problem is that the help (aside from the free needles) and the shelters come with rules, and these people don't want to follow the rules, if they did want to follow rules they probably wouldn't be homeless.

The bigger problem is mental illness, and you cant force people into treatment.


Even if you could, there is no place to give it out.
 
kab
2017-12-13 12:07:46 PM  
San Francisco is a city with one of the worst homelessness rates in the world, with over 7,000 residents out on the streets.

And I'm sure SF itself simply has *no* idea why they have this particular issue.
 
2017-12-13 12:10:01 PM  
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Just give it your drugs and you might live
 
2017-12-13 12:12:42 PM  

Another Government Employee: It looks like a Dalek.


RELOCATE!  RELOCAAAAAAATE!
 
2017-12-13 12:17:33 PM  
* Since the bot started work one month ago there has been less homeless people

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2017-12-13 12:19:17 PM  
Is this a repeat of the thread I got called a fascist in?
 
2017-12-13 12:20:51 PM  
Oh ho ho, this robot actually chases bums away instead of being so cruel as to navigate around them.
 
2017-12-13 12:23:03 PM  

kab: San Francisco is a city with one of the worst homelessness rates in the world, with over 7,000 residents out on the streets.

And I'm sure SF itself simply has *no* idea why they have this particular issue.


Nice weather and LGBT support are two big ones.
 
2017-12-13 12:24:51 PM  

12349876: kab: San Francisco is a city with one of the worst homelessness rates in the world, with over 7,000 residents out on the streets.

And I'm sure SF itself simply has *no* idea why they have this particular issue.

Nice weather and LGBT support are two big ones.


I can't tell if you're joking or if you honestly think SF has nice weather.
 
2017-12-13 12:30:19 PM  

mrsleep: Tr0mBoNe: The money spent to develop and deploy this robot could have provided a place to stay and support for those homeless people. Or, they could have paid someone to do the same job.

They have places to stay, and there is SO MUCH support for the homeless in SF.
One problem is that the help (aside from the free needles) and the shelters come with rules, and these people don't want to follow the rules, if they did want to follow rules they probably wouldn't be homeless.

The bigger problem is mental illness, and you cant force people into treatment.


Can you drink in your own house?
Can you come and go whenever you want in your own house?

There is a reason people don't stay in shelters. Aside from the fact many charge money after a set time, or various safety issues, shelter rules cause all sorts of problems. I worked nights with a bunch of very poor people one summer... Several were in weekly hotels. One of them was in a shelter at first. That shelter was closed during the day so for the first week he was totally trashed by lack of sleep.

The mental health issue is real enough, but is badly compounded by how we treat homelessness and homeless people. Being on the streets makes people less sane. Yeah, some are drunks or have drug problems, but just telling them they can't have a roof unless they play nice is bullshiat. Plenty of people with roofs have drinking and drug problems.
 
2017-12-13 12:32:41 PM  

I created this alt just for this thread: I can't tell if you're joking or if you honestly think SF has nice weather.


It hasn't snowed since 1976, sounds like great weather for a homeless person to me.
 
2017-12-13 12:33:49 PM  

AlanMooresBeard: Next they'll be marrying our daughters!


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2017-12-13 12:39:07 PM  
TFA: "The non-profit organisation that occupies the office block has been warned by officials they will be fined $1,000 (£750) a day if they continue to use the robot without a permit."

How about impounding it? It's like telling a shoplifter you'll fine them tomorrow if they steal again tomorrow.

Also, I see this has been covered, but do you want robocop? Because this is how you get robocop.
 
2017-12-13 12:51:15 PM  
Despite the fact that not one single one of those people are homeless because of robots, let's not let that stop us from accepting the moronic premise and working our panties into a big wad. BURN ALL THE THINGS
 
2017-12-13 01:08:37 PM  
"YOU...WILL...REMOVE...YOURSELF...FR​OM​...THE...SIDEWALK....YOU...HAVE...TWEN​TY...SECONDS...TO...COMPLY!"

[Homeless person pushes robot over, goes back to sleep.]
 
2017-12-13 01:15:17 PM  
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and after all of that he farks your wife
 
2017-12-13 01:27:42 PM  
Until they go haywire and start killing people.
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2017-12-13 01:28:09 PM  
I wonder exactly how it works, does it just go back and forth saying "bums not allowed," does it go up to them and tell them to move?  Does it say it once and keep patrolling or does it stand there repeating instructions till the bum moves?

How does it know the person is homeless?  Can the robot respond to emergencies?  If the robot tells me to move and I tell it I'm having a heartattack, will it call 911?  If it doesn't, can I sue the SPCA for negligence?

My spidey senses are tingling...there's money to be made here, and not by the robotics company.
 
2017-12-13 01:33:55 PM  

grumpyguru: I wonder exactly how it works, does it just go back and forth saying "bums not allowed," does it go up to them and tell them to move?  Does it say it once and keep patrolling or does it stand there repeating instructions till the bum moves?

How does it know the person is homeless?  Can the robot respond to emergencies?  If the robot tells me to move and I tell it I'm having a heartattack, will it call 911?  If it doesn't, can I sue the SPCA for negligence?

My spidey senses are tingling...there's money to be made here, and not by the robotics company.


I hope it has a retractable poking arm in that Dalek like carapace
 
2017-12-13 01:36:31 PM  
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2017-12-13 02:17:05 PM  

mrsleep: Tr0mBoNe: The money spent to develop and deploy this robot could have provided a place to stay and support for those homeless people. Or, they could have paid someone to do the same job.

They have places to stay, and there is SO MUCH support for the homeless in SF.
One problem is that the help (aside from the free needles) and the shelters come with rules, and these people don't want to follow the rules, if they did want to follow rules they probably wouldn't be homeless.

The bigger problem is mental illness, and you cant force people into treatment.


Here in Albuquerque the cops deal with mentally ill homeless people by shooting them dead.
 
2017-12-13 02:29:17 PM  

Skyking Skyking Do Not Answer: mrsleep: Tr0mBoNe: The money spent to develop and deploy this robot could have provided a place to stay and support for those homeless people. Or, they could have paid someone to do the same job.

They have places to stay, and there is SO MUCH support for the homeless in SF.
One problem is that the help (aside from the free needles) and the shelters come with rules, and these people don't want to follow the rules, if they did want to follow rules they probably wouldn't be homeless.

The bigger problem is mental illness, and you cant force people into treatment.

Here in Albuquerque the cops deal with mentally ill homeless people by shooting them dead.


Not sure if that is bragging or complaining?
 
2017-12-13 02:34:48 PM  

grumpyguru: I wonder exactly how it works, does it just go back and forth saying "bums not allowed," does it go up to them and tell them to move?  Does it say it once and keep patrolling or does it stand there repeating instructions till the bum moves?


This is what I read the article for. Came away frustrated that it didn't say.
The homeless I've seen would simply ignore it if it was just verbal.

/Daily Mail, so now I doubt the existence of San Francisco
 
2017-12-13 02:37:18 PM  
You would think a city that has what is equivalent to the GDP of some countries and the brightest minds would be able to come up with an intelligent solution.

Also, sending robots to take care of the riffraff (not the rapper) is not very Left Coast.

\Leans left
 
2017-12-13 03:15:34 PM  
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Eventually it'll all come full-circle...
 
2017-12-13 03:18:09 PM  

Flaumig: This seems like a good thread to mention that it's cheaper to house the homeless than it is to enforce vagrancy laws and treat their emergent medical issues that arise from being homeless.


If you thought this was about the money, well...
 
2017-12-13 03:23:44 PM  
"Go be poor on another planet".

- Charles Koch
 
2017-12-13 03:24:54 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: invictus2: Tr0mBoNe: The money spent to develop and deploy this robot could have provided a place to stay and support for those homeless people. Or, they could have paid someone to do the same job.

from article
The robots can be rented for as little as $7 an hour, far less than the minimum wage of $14 per hour in California.

Ahhh so it's just cheap hate, not expensive hate like I assumed. That makes it allllll better.


You're perhaps missing the obvious. This company is in the business of making robots. That's HOW they make their money in the first place. If they did what you ask instead they wouldn't be in existence. I sincerely doubt there's a mustachio twirling villain leading the company cackling about his plan to build robots which shoo away the homeless that he hates so much.

Before you whine on how many of those people did you provide jobs and shelter for?
 
2017-12-13 04:20:18 PM  
Getting closer and closer...

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2017-12-13 06:07:43 PM  

I created this alt just for this thread: 12349876: kab: San Francisco is a city with one of the worst homelessness rates in the world, with over 7,000 residents out on the streets.

And I'm sure SF itself simply has *no* idea why they have this particular issue.

Nice weather and LGBT support are two big ones.

I can't tell if you're joking or if you honestly think SF has nice weather.


The number of nights where you'll die from freezing are very low there compared to most other cities.  The number of days where you'll die from extreme heat are very low compared to most other cities.  That's what nice weather means when you're homeless.
 
2017-12-13 06:28:07 PM  
[They] 'put a tarp over it, knocked it over and put barbecue sauce on all the sensors,' Ms Scarlett said.

I want to believe the barbecue sauce was part of a bigger plan. Sounds like a documentary I saw a long time ago, a homeless guy was explaining "Robots is practically chickens, and I hates to see chickens cry so much that I has to put 'em out of their misery".
 
2017-12-13 08:30:14 PM  
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2017-12-13 11:07:18 PM  
There are ways of dealing with robots that tell a person what to do.
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2017-12-14 01:01:52 AM  

Skyking Skyking Do Not Answer: mrsleep: Tr0mBoNe: The money spent to develop and deploy this robot could have provided a place to stay and support for those homeless people. Or, they could have paid someone to do the same job.

They have places to stay, and there is SO MUCH support for the homeless in SF.
One problem is that the help (aside from the free needles) and the shelters come with rules, and these people don't want to follow the rules, if they did want to follow rules they probably wouldn't be homeless.

The bigger problem is mental illness, and you cant force people into treatment.

Here in Albuquerque the cops deal with mentally ill homeless people by shooting them dead.


Make left turn,
 
2017-12-14 03:07:46 AM  
So, I've just been playing Watch Dogs 2, which is totally relevant
 
2017-12-14 08:15:58 AM  

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Just give it your drugs and you might live


i still have nightmares since seeing that as a child.  farking hell


/you have 20 seconds to get your ass up
 
2017-12-14 08:19:53 AM  
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2017-12-14 11:45:00 AM  

sid244: You would think a city that has what is equivalent to the GDP of some countries and the brightest minds would be able to come up with an intelligent solution.

Also, sending robots to take care of the riffraff (not the rapper) is not very Left Coast.

\Leans left


Ummmm...while a private company did it, that's exactly Left Coast. Berkeley and SF have been pushing homeless people into Oakland and other parts of the bay by the truckload for decades now.
 
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