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2017-12-07 03:00:15 PM  
Religious liberty doesn't include oppression of other citizens. Ask your god why you hate people that are different than you.
 
2017-12-07 03:04:54 PM  

Circusdog320: Religious liberty doesn't include oppression of other citizens. Ask your god why you hate people that are different than you.


Allow me to channel everything I know about the opposition to this statement.

NO YOU!!!
 
2017-12-07 03:06:15 PM  

Circusdog320: Religious liberty doesn't include oppression of other citizens.


Religious liberty grants you the right to say "I can't do that, it's against my religion", not "They can't do that, it's against my religion."
 
2017-12-07 03:09:47 PM  
Make it so that liberal businesses can refuse service to conservatives.  That's the logical extension of this.  Let's see how that works out for your lot.
 
2017-12-07 03:13:59 PM  
Then the White House shouldn't mind if people begin throwing bricks through the windows of bakeries that display homophobic slurs.

Sounds like they need to by run out of business and run out of town, just like Amy and Samy.
 
2017-12-07 03:38:03 PM  
First, it should be illegal to operate a business that discriminates based on sexuality.  Of course it should be and will be illegal (I hope).

However, if it isn't, it should be f$cking mandatory that business advertise their bigotry on a big sign with 6 inch lettering on their front door and f$ck anyone who shops there.
 
2017-12-07 03:55:51 PM  

derpes_simplex: Make it so that liberal businesses can refuse service to conservatives.  That's the logical extension of this.  Let's see how that works out for your lot.


You can already refuse service to homosexuals, apparently. Most of the time you can't tell just by looking, but sometimes they have 'tells'. Red hats that say 'Make America Great Again' for example.
 
2017-12-07 04:32:05 PM  

mrshowrules: First, it should be illegal to operate a business that discriminates based on sexuality.  Of course it should be and will be illegal (I hope).

However, if it isn't, it should be f$cking mandatory that business advertise their bigotry on a big sign with 6 inch lettering on their front door and f$ck anyone who shops there.


Mandatory? Most willingly and enthusiastically posted campaign signs last year.
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2017-12-07 06:37:11 PM  
From the sound of things it seems the conservatives on SCOTUS are really hankering to get their "religious liberty" on. They just can't find a way to do it without upending decades of civil rights laws.

Seriously, how is "gay" any different from "black"?
 
2017-12-07 06:41:36 PM  

fusillade762: From the sound of things it seems the conservatives on SCOTUS are really hankering to get their "religious liberty" on. They just can't find a way to do it without upending decades of civil rights laws.

Seriously, how is "gay" any different from "black"?


Race is codified in law, sexual preference has not been given strong protection.
 
2017-12-07 06:42:58 PM  
Welp. I guess it's time to create a gay version of the Negro Travelers' Green Book.
 
2017-12-07 07:09:59 PM  
I'm not seeing much difference here to this shiat:
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America you're better than this. Be. Better. Than. This.
 
2017-12-07 07:35:43 PM  
No Farkers Allowed?
 
2017-12-07 07:39:28 PM  
I thought this kind of stuff was outlawed back in the 60's?
 
2017-12-07 07:39:58 PM  

docpeteyJ: Welp. I guess it's time to create a gay version of the Negro Travelers' Green Book.


Pink Book? Lavender Book? What's the gay color?

/because you know they're gonna want the rainbow back
//God's promise not to kill everyone
 
2017-12-07 07:40:34 PM  

Circusdog320: Religious liberty doesn't include oppression of other citizens. Ask your god why you hate people that are different than you.


Great theory, but that's exactly what religious liberty is going to mean as soon as SCOTUS issues its ruling in this case. It may not be as serious as Dred Scott, but it's going to be damn close. Religious belief is about to become a super-right that supersedes all other rights and laws. But not ALL religious belief, obviously, because there's no way in hell they will ever allow conservative Muslims to get away with the kinds of discrimination that conservative Christians are going to be allowed to commit.
 
2017-12-07 07:40:59 PM  
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2017-12-07 07:46:06 PM  
MAGA - NO FATCHICKS ALLOWED???

Who's going to break the bad news to Sarah?
 
2017-12-07 07:48:24 PM  
Love this part of TFA:

"But here's a suggestion for all the hatey, butt-sore, anti-gay bakers in Arizona: start an organization-The Arizona Association of Homophobic Bakers-and publicly identify yourselves as homophobic bakers. Put up a website with a list of bakeries that don't want to do business with LGBT people. Put signs in your windows that clearly state that gay and lesbian customers are not welcome and will be turned away....
The homophobic bakers of Arizona will do no such thing of course. Because hater bakers know that putting "We Don't Serve Gay People" signs in their windows will not only cost them our business-business they don't want-but also the business of our straight friends, family members, and neighbors. Business they do want. And they'll also lose the business of fair-minded straight people who think discrimination is wrong. And they'll lose the business of straight people who worry about where this kind of selective, hypocritical, faith-rationalized discrimination could ultimately lead... That's not the way homophobic bakers want it to work. Or homophobic florists or photographers or caterers for that matter. They want to quietly and discreetly refuse to serve individual customers who happen to be gay without their other customers finding out. They wanna hate on the down low because they know that customers who may not be gay themselves-people who know and love LGBT people, customers who don't approve of discrimination on principal, other minorities who worry that they could be next-will take their business elsewhere."

triple dog dare ya AAHB!

/wanna hate on the down low-nailed it!
 
2017-12-07 07:52:03 PM  

flypusher713: triple dog dare ya AAHB!


flypusher created a slight breach of etiquette by skipping the triple dare and going right for the throat.
 
2017-12-07 07:54:54 PM  
I hate this timeline... anyone know one where we didn't gazorpazorp the shiat out of everything, and my alternate dies so I can bury myself in the backward and assume my own place?
 
2017-12-07 08:00:25 PM  
I can only assume these bakers are being diligent in making sure they're not selling cakes to previously married people, or people that have been farking out of wedlock...

Also, does this mean I can put up a sign saying "No trumpkins allowed"?


The Dog Ate My Homework: But not ALL religious belief, obviously, because there's no way in hell they will ever allow conservative Muslims to get away with the kinds of discrimination that conservative Christians are going to be allowed to commit.


Might be entertaining to see what the Satanic Temple does with this if it goes badly though...
 
2017-12-07 08:03:48 PM  

elkboy: [img.fark.net image 425x210][View Full Size image _x_]


I actually had one cabby that didn't want to take me to a strip club (might have been because I wanted him to take us for free. but the strip clubs then pay for the people) but the next cabby another middle eastern guy who would take us pulled up to the guy who wouldn't and cussed him out. It was pretty funny.
 
2017-12-07 08:06:00 PM  
I like what people are talking about let's compromise. If they turn away gays the need to post it on their window so people can decide not to do business with them.

BTW many business in my neighborhood have sign saying they will NOT turn people away for being gay, or religion, ethnicity or things like that.
 
2017-12-07 08:09:19 PM  
Well, my religion doesn't allow lying criminals to be President. See, there is a sign in the window. I'm afraid you'll have to leave immediately, Trump.

That's the religion of integrity, decency and beer...
 
2017-12-07 08:09:45 PM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: flypusher713: triple dog dare ya AAHB!

flypusher created a slight breach of etiquette by skipping the triple dare and going right for the throat.


Trump is in the White House, Roy Moore is on the verge of getting a seat in the Senate, Mike F'ing Pence is bunking at the Naval Observatory...

I'm hoping you can let this go.
 
2017-12-07 08:21:45 PM  

docpeteyJ: Welp. I guess it's time to create a gay version of the Negro Travelers' Green Book.


In those days, blah people sometimes wore turbans to pass as Indians. Maybe that would work for gays...
 
2017-12-07 08:35:17 PM  

derpes_simplex: Make it so that liberal businesses can refuse service to conservatives.  That's the logical extension of this.  Let's see how that works out for your lot.


Nope. Not the logical extension. The logical extension is that every business posts in their front window what they do and do not support. Then the market decides.

Looking at Trump's precious election map... huh, greater general income (among citizens in general, and tossing high end outliers) is concentrated is blue areas. Especially if you go county by county. Let the free market decide, it's what the GOP always wanted.
 
2017-12-07 08:36:48 PM  

Paris1127: docpeteyJ: Welp. I guess it's time to create a gay version of the Negro Travelers' Green Book.

Pink Book? Lavender Book? What's the gay color?

/because you know they're gonna want the rainbow back
//God's promise not to kill everyone


Fuchsia
 
2017-12-07 08:38:53 PM  

fusillade762: From the sound of things it seems the conservatives on SCOTUS are really hankering to get their "religious liberty" on. They just can't find a way to do it without upending decades of civil rights laws.

Seriously, how is "gay" any different from "black"?


That's the stance of the aclu on it
 
2017-12-07 08:40:04 PM  

HighOnCraic: docpeteyJ: Welp. I guess it's time to create a gay version of the Negro Travelers' Green Book.

In those days, blah people sometimes wore turbans to pass as Indians. Maybe that would work for gays...


The way things are going and likely to go before we get this shiat straightened out I'm not sure I'd want to dress as a foreigner...
 
2017-12-07 08:44:10 PM  

edmo: fusillade762: From the sound of things it seems the conservatives on SCOTUS are really hankering to get their "religious liberty" on. They just can't find a way to do it without upending decades of civil rights laws.

Seriously, how is "gay" any different from "black"?

Race is codified in law, sexual preference has not been given strong protection.


Psa:

Preference implies the sexuality is a of taste or choice to the matter instead of a natural inborn condition.


Stop using this word in reference to sexuality.

 Thanks.
 
2017-12-07 08:47:44 PM  

Bimmer Jones: Then the White House shouldn't mind if people begin throwing bricks through the windows of bakeries that display homophobic slurs.

Sounds like they need to by run out of business and run out of town, just like Amy and Samy.


My thoughts exactly.  The White House might be ok with it, but insurers most certainly not.  My premiums should not rise due to your bigotry.

Also, that Oregon baker had no problem with baking a cake for a gay wedding when he plunked down the deposit several months in advance.  They only cried muhriligin when they were unable to uphold their end of the contract.

Not only are they biggots, but terrible businessmen as well.  It's amazing that people think they have legal recourse to break contracts based upon a made up religious belief.
 
2017-12-07 08:53:43 PM  
Perhaps we could promote legislation requiring a sign be posted if the proprietor decides their religion prevents them from serving certain groups.

/That way we'd all know
//And we could make an informed free-market decision
///Sort of like posting the health department grade in the window, as is required in LA
 
2017-12-07 08:54:10 PM  

sillydragon: HighOnCraic: docpeteyJ: Welp. I guess it's time to create a gay version of the Negro Travelers' Green Book.

In those days, blah people sometimes wore turbans to pass as Indians. Maybe that would work for gays...

The way things are going and likely to go before we get this shiat straightened out I'm not sure I'd want to dress as a foreigner...


That's the joke--the idea of putting on a turban to avoid discrimination...
 
2017-12-07 08:57:08 PM  

whatisaidwas: Perhaps we could promote legislation requiring a sign be posted if the proprietor decides their religion prevents them from serving certain groups.

/That way we'd all know
//And we could make an informed free-market decision
///Sort of like posting the health department grade in the window, as is required in LA


Wouldn't that be "compelled speech," according to Gorsuch?
 
2017-12-07 09:04:37 PM  

HighOnCraic: whatisaidwas: Perhaps we could promote legislation requiring a sign be posted if the proprietor decides their religion prevents them from serving certain groups.

/That way we'd all know
//And we could make an informed free-market decision
///Sort of like posting the health department grade in the window, as is required in LA

Wouldn't that be "compelled speech," according to Gorsuch?


I'm sure you're right, but I give as much credibility to Gorsuch on the Law as I do to Mommies on Vaccinations.
 
2017-12-07 09:16:41 PM  
Friend of mine has added a 20% surcharge for any house he goes into with visible signs for Republicans or Trump.

I think it's a good example to set.

/He thought Hilary was going to be 'just as bad'.
//Pretty sure he knows *that* didn't work
 
2017-12-07 09:18:33 PM  

derpes_simplex: Make it so that liberal businesses can refuse service to conservatives.  That's the logical extension of this.  Let's see how that works out for your lot.


Make close minded bigots follow the US constitution.  If the baker wants to only bake for his church for religious holidays, then he would only have to sell stuff to his church and only at those events.  A company that sells to the general public is part of a society and has to sell to everyone.  If Gorsuch and Kennedy vote in favor of the baker then we will lose a lot more than just gay wedding cakes.
 
2017-12-07 09:38:59 PM  
Nihilist, please.
 
2017-12-07 09:42:47 PM  
Please, please, please someone make a business where they don't server Christians due to their beliefs. Easily justifiable if anti-LGBTQ  BS is allowed.
 
2017-12-07 09:43:23 PM  
Well, of course the White House does. Most of Donald Trump's few genuine political opinions were forged when he and his father were informed by the court that they in fact did not have a God-given right to refuse to rent to Those People. He never, ever let that go.

If a baker can refuse service to a customer because the Bronze Age savage the baker swears by thinks the customer should be stoned to death in public, well, surely a landlord can refuse to rent to someone the landlord thinks should have been deported to Liberia long ago.
 
2017-12-07 09:46:24 PM  
Again, i'll suggest:

While congress is in session, DC bars and restaurants put up "NO REPUBLICANS" signage, with small print quotes of GOP arguments why this is perfectly A-OK!!!

Hell, even if Just the DC Gay Bars did this...
 
2017-12-07 09:51:07 PM  

JDAT: I thought this kind of stuff was outlawed back in the 60's?


It is and has always been a favorite tactic of fascists the world over to pervert laws intended to protect the vulnerable AGAINST hate speech and twist the interpretation to support their abusive, hateful horsecrap.

They've just gotten better at it.
 
2017-12-07 09:52:16 PM  
 "No Fats Allowed?"

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Seems to undermine their attempts to appeal to the MAGA market.
 
2017-12-07 10:47:04 PM  

Tentaclefriendly: Again, i'll suggest:

While congress is in session, DC bars and restaurants put up "NO REPUBLICANS" signage, with small print quotes of GOP arguments why this is perfectly A-OK!!!

Hell, even if Just the DC Gay Bars did this...


It's amusing/sad that many of their apologists, without even a small hint of self-awareness, whine about how people who loathe extreme conservatives and refuse to consort with them are practicing bigotry while simultaneously typing in threads like this to tell us that discriminating against LGBT people is their god-given right as assholes.
 
2017-12-07 10:53:22 PM  

Tentaclefriendly: Again, i'll suggest:

While congress is in session, DC bars and restaurants put up "NO REPUBLICANS" signage, with small print quotes of GOP arguments why this is perfectly A-OK!!!

Hell, even if Just the DC Gay Bars did this...


If that was the case, those closeted Republicans would NEVER get laid... or pegged, or topped, or dogged or whatever the fark you want to call it. Can you imagine the savage legislation that would be generated by blue balls and unpenetrated anuses? Oy Vegan!
 
2017-12-07 10:55:18 PM  

Percise1: Tentaclefriendly: Again, i'll suggest:

While congress is in session, DC bars and restaurants put up "NO REPUBLICANS" signage, with small print quotes of GOP arguments why this is perfectly A-OK!!!

Hell, even if Just the DC Gay Bars did this...

If that was the case, those closeted Republicans would NEVER get laid... or pegged, or topped, or dogged or whatever the fark you want to call it. Can you imagine the savage legislation that would be generated by blue balls and unpenetrated anuses? Oy Vegan!


So, basically Win/Win?
 
2017-12-07 11:02:30 PM  

JDAT: I thought this kind of stuff was outlawed back in the 60's?


You assholes are bringing it back.
 
2017-12-07 11:15:16 PM  

nekom: Religious liberty grants you the right to say "I can't do that, it's against my religion"


...to anyone who offends your "religious" sensibilities, which will now include race, sex, age, weight, height, hair color, party affiliation, sexual preference, favorite actor, shoe size, make of car you drive, whether you've been to a foreign country, etc.

Would could NOT be argued to be a "deeply-held religious belief"?  I'm sure Roy Moore would include banging teens, posting the 10 Commandments everywhere, and stringing up a few uppity n****rs like Obama as "deeply-held" beliefs.
 
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