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(U.S. Navy)   U.S. Navy combines photos taken in 1941 of the Attack on Pearl Harbor with photos taken in 2013. Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead   ( navy.mil) divider line
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2017-12-07 03:43:36 PM  
Some haunting images there. I visited the Arizona a few years ago, and there's a magnitude to it that just can't be fully appreciated by pictures, words, or even video. If you ever have a chance to go, it's worth it.
 
2017-12-07 04:21:28 PM  
Also like the video that is linked.
 
2017-12-07 04:39:35 PM  
There's a Rolls Royce in the picture of "Mahan-class destroyer USS Shaw (DD 373)" exploding. The Navy is full of ballers.
 
2017-12-07 05:12:36 PM  

Uncle Eazy: There's a Rolls Royce in the picture of "Mahan-class destroyer USS Shaw (DD 373)" exploding. The Navy is full of ballers.


Knew that name sounded familiar.

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Reading this right now.
 
2017-12-07 05:14:16 PM  
Someone should create an AR app that lets you see battlefields of the past.
 
2017-12-07 06:11:41 PM  
According to the President, the attack on Pearl Harbor was a "really wild thing."
 
2017-12-07 06:14:02 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: According to the President, the attack on Pearl Harbor was a "really wild thing."


How poetic. He really has the best words.
 
2017-12-07 06:15:23 PM  
They could have dusted them first. sniff
 
2017-12-07 06:15:43 PM  
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A view of the historic Ford Island control tower from 1941. The tower was once used to guide airplanes at the airfield on the island and will now be used as an aviation library. (U.S. Navy photo illustration by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Diana Quinlan)

The rare book collection is going to be ALL of the way at the top. Nobody is ever gonna want to walk all those stairs...
 
2017-12-07 06:15:59 PM  

fusillade762: Uncle Eazy: There's a Rolls Royce in the picture of "Mahan-class destroyer USS Shaw (DD 373)" exploding. The Navy is full of ballers.

Knew that name sounded familiar.

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Reading this right now.


I remember getting really annoyed when somebody made a reference to the brontosaurus because, of course, there is no such thing as a brontosaurus.

Then I read the author pointing out that those people, at that time, would not have known that and the brontosaurus would be the go-to dinosaur reference and felt very foolish because, of course, that is correct.
 
2017-12-07 06:29:07 PM  

Mikey1969: The rare book collection is going to be ALL of the way at the top. Nobody is ever gonna want to walk all those stairs...


I would.  The view from the top would be awesome.
 
2017-12-07 06:29:24 PM  

SumJackass07: Someone should create an AR app that lets you see battlefields of the past.


That may be the most awesome app idea I've ever heard. If that existed, I would be willing to break my perfect streak of never paying for a mobile app. You need to hop on over to a crowdsourcing funding site and start interviewing developers. I'll send you my money and my resume.
 
2017-12-07 06:33:31 PM  

Delta1212: fusillade762: Uncle Eazy: There's a Rolls Royce in the picture of "Mahan-class destroyer USS Shaw (DD 373)" exploding. The Navy is full of ballers.

Knew that name sounded familiar.

[img.fark.net image 490x648]

Reading this right now.

I remember getting really annoyed when somebody made a reference to the brontosaurus because, of course, there is no such thing as a brontosaurus.

Then I read the author pointing out that those people, at that time, would not have known that and the brontosaurus would be the go-to dinosaur reference and felt very foolish because, of course, that is correct.


Uhem....  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brontos​a​urus

Which makes me happy.   Now if they'd make Pluto a planet again, all would be right with my childhood memories.

Our kid was stationed at Kaneohe for a couple of enlistments.   Kaneohe, the airfield,  was bombed before Pearl Harbor.   They are a teensy bit prickly about that.   The Arizona monument is so sad, just heartbreaking.   I was glad that the Missouri was finally docked in the harbor.  It seems fitting that the ship where the surrender was signed sits in the place it all started at.   That puppy is massive, too.
 
2017-12-07 06:39:12 PM  

Delta1212: fusillade762: Uncle Eazy: There's a Rolls Royce in the picture of "Mahan-class destroyer USS Shaw (DD 373)" exploding. The Navy is full of ballers.

Knew that name sounded familiar.

[img.fark.net image 490x648]

Reading this right now.

I remember getting really annoyed when somebody made a reference to the brontosaurus because, of course, there is no such thing as a brontosaurus.

Then I read the author pointing out that those people, at that time, would not have known that and the brontosaurus would be the go-to dinosaur reference and felt very foolish because, of course, that is correct.


Of course it's correct.  What would the Flintstones have eaten otherwise?
 
2017-12-07 06:41:41 PM  
My aunt-in-law was walking to school when she saw the Japanese planes flying overheard. She was a Chinese American and afterwards went to Michigan state and graduated with a biochemistry degree. She married a Chinese-American umich graduate who went on to work for Boeing designing fighter planes for the war.

My great-uncle worked on the ww2 version of the Norden bombsight. My wife's in-laws (the Jewish side) were at los Alamos and friends with Feynman. (It was a Harvard (radcliffe)  jewish-Chinese marriage). Much later my great uncle was friends and neighbors with Feynman in Pasadena. Both sides of the family say he was a joker and kind of an ass.

It's hard not to feel overshadowed by that generation.
 
2017-12-07 06:45:40 PM  

SumJackass07: Someone should create an AR app that lets you see battlefields of the past.


Sort of an old school app that sits on my coffee table does just that.

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It weighs in at about 10lbs, though, so it really doesn't fit on your phone.
 
2017-12-07 06:52:00 PM  
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Uncle Eazy: There's a Rolls Royce in the picture of "Mahan-class destroyer USS Shaw (DD 373)" exploding.


They even got a Toyota and a VW to participate in their WWII reenactment.
 
2017-12-07 06:56:59 PM  
Anyone who is into WWII history who has, somehow, *not* read Gordon Prange's Pearl Harbor books *really* needs to do so. His basic conclusion was: there is no one person, other than Isoroku Yammamoto, to blame for the attack on Pearl Harbor, as the Japanese were going to have to deal with the US Navy at some point to fulfill their goal of claiming the natural resources of the various Pacific islands to fuel their conquest of China (and, later, French Indochina and the Philippines) in order to be taken seriously as a Major Player in the real-life version of Risk that was being played during the 1930's and '40's by every nation not named the United States of America (and the ultra-isolationist Republican party at the time was the main reason the US wasn't playing the real-life version of Risk at the time). And the ultimate dream scenario for the Japanese would have been the US Pacific Fleet being at Lahina Roads, rather than Pearl Harbor, and the US aircraft carriers being there as well (something about Lahina Roads anchorage being in 2,000 ft of water depth, making salvage impossible, given the state of technology in 1941), with the IJN Combined Fleet then being able to blow the fuel storage and fleet repair facilities at Pearl Harbor to bits without having to worry about the US Pacific Fleet defending them (a part of the IJN attack on the US forces in Hawaii at the time in such a situation would have called for an attack on the woefully-under-equipped and under-trained USAAF forces at Wheeler and Hickam prior to turning the US support facilities on Oahu into flaming wreckage, so as to delay any US efforts into stopping the Japanese attacks in China and SE Asia until mid-1943, at the earliest). The one glaring failure of the attack on Pearl Harbor, one that can be laid squarely at the feet of the man who came up with the plan, was the decision *not* to launch the wave of attacks that *would* have gone after the fuel farms and repair facilities around Pearl Harbor. If the IJN had launched that wave, Midway would not have happened, and most of SE Asia would have grown up speaking Japanese as at least a second language.
 
2017-12-07 06:58:36 PM  

D_PaulAngel: Some haunting images there. I visited the Arizona a few years ago, and there's a magnitude to it that just can't be fully appreciated by pictures, words, or even video. If you ever have a chance to go, it's worth it.


Went there in October. We couldn't dock at the USS Arizona memorial because of choppy waters that day. I talked to someone yesterday that went there five years ago and stood above the sunken ship. He told me that walking over top of that, knowing all those souls were underfoot was the most sobering experience he's had in his 69 years.
We're going back to Hawaii again next year. I want to visit Pearl Harbor again.
 
2017-12-07 07:10:25 PM  

comrade: My aunt-in-law was walking to school when she saw the Japanese planes flying overheard. She was a Chinese American and afterwards went to Michigan state and graduated with a biochemistry degree. She married a Chinese-American umich graduate who went on to work for Boeing designing fighter planes for the war.

My great-uncle worked on the ww2 version of the Norden bombsight. My wife's in-laws (the Jewish side) were at los Alamos and friends with Feynman. (It was a Harvard (radcliffe)  jewish-Chinese marriage). Much later my great uncle was friends and neighbors with Feynman in Pasadena. Both sides of the family say he was a joker and kind of an ass.

It's hard not to feel overshadowed by that generation.


Mom had just graduated from Radcliffe in 1942 and joined the WAVES. She spent the war breaking Japanese coded messages assembly line style at Nebraska Ave. The Hawaii branch office was named HYPO. That's what I want to visit, but I think they still use it.
 
2017-12-07 07:30:49 PM  

WTFDYW: D_PaulAngel: Some haunting images there. I visited the Arizona a few years ago, and there's a magnitude to it that just can't be fully appreciated by pictures, words, or even video. If you ever have a chance to go, it's worth it.

Went there in October. We couldn't dock at the USS Arizona memorial because of choppy waters that day. I talked to someone yesterday that went there five years ago and stood above the sunken ship. He told me that walking over top of that, knowing all those souls were underfoot was the most sobering experience he's had in his 69 years.
We're going back to Hawaii again next year. I want to visit Pearl Harbor again.


Going out there is really sobering even with the crowds. Hopefully you were able to at least check out their museum? It's incredibly powerful in its own right.
 
2017-12-07 07:32:38 PM  

Truck Fump: comrade: My aunt-in-law was walking to school when she saw the Japanese planes flying overheard. She was a Chinese American and afterwards went to Michigan state and graduated with a biochemistry degree. She married a Chinese-American umich graduate who went on to work for Boeing designing fighter planes for the war.

My great-uncle worked on the ww2 version of the Norden bombsight. My wife's in-laws (the Jewish side) were at los Alamos and friends with Feynman. (It was a Harvard (radcliffe)  jewish-Chinese marriage). Much later my great uncle was friends and neighbors with Feynman in Pasadena. Both sides of the family say he was a joker and kind of an ass.

It's hard not to feel overshadowed by that generation.

Mom had just graduated from Radcliffe in 1942 and joined the WAVES. She spent the war breaking Japanese coded messages assembly line style at Nebraska Ave. The Hawaii branch office was named HYPO. That's what I want to visit, but I think they still use it.


Most of the US naval facilities on Oahu from WWII are still in use today (as I recall, Commander, United Forces, Pacific still uses the old Commander, United States Pacific Fleet offices occupied by Husband E. Kimmel and Chester W, Nimitz).
 
2017-12-07 07:32:39 PM  
"Damn the torpedos" is from the wrong war, subby.
 
2017-12-07 07:33:07 PM  
WTFDYW:

Just skeletons. Use a waterproof mace, no worries.
 
2017-12-07 08:01:18 PM  
To think they were more concerned about "saboteurs" than they were about a direct attack.
 
2017-12-07 08:06:12 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: According to the President, the attack on Pearl Harbor was a "really wild thing."


Shiat...... No way he's that big of a jackass to say something like that.

"George Blake stood watch on the Hawaiian shores, ready to repulse a feared invasion," Trump said on the 76th anniversary of the attack. "George, George. Thank you, George. Good. That was a pretty wild scene. You'll never forget that, right?"

What. The. F#ck?
 
2017-12-07 08:23:47 PM  

HiFiGuy: [img.fark.net image 850x565]
Uncle Eazy: There's a Rolls Royce in the picture of "Mahan-class destroyer USS Shaw (DD 373)" exploding.

They even got a Toyota and a VW to participate in their WWII reenactment.


I'm sure there are a bunch of Mitsubishis on the other side of that explosion.
 
2017-12-07 08:34:03 PM  
Paul Tibbets personal choice of automobile in retirement was a Toyota. Man knew his machines.
 
2017-12-07 08:34:42 PM  

kb7rky: To think they were more concerned about "saboteurs" than they were about a direct attack.


That was more the fault of Walter Short, the US Army commander in Hawaii, than Husband E. Kimmel, the US Navy commander there. Kimmel's shortcoming was that he was counting on the US Army (especially the US Army Air Force) to give him enough warning of incoming Japanese attackers to be able to sortie the Pacific Fleet and have it maneuvering and mobile, rather than docked and stationary, making the fleet a more difficult target. Walter Short was in over his head, and also did not get very good direction from higher HQ as to what level and type of threat he should be protecting against (that, and he simply did not have the resources available to provide effective early warning of attack, because the isolationist Republicans in Congress were busy hamstringing any attempts to prepare the US for war, and Roosevelt was expecting any war against the US to be initiated by Germany, not Japan, so he was making sure US efforts were concentrated on Europe, not Asia).
 
2017-12-07 08:36:44 PM  

beerrun: Satanic_Hamster: According to the President, the attack on Pearl Harbor was a "really wild thing."

Shiat...... No way he's that big of a jackass to say something like that.

"George Blake stood watch on the Hawaiian shores, ready to repulse a feared invasion," Trump said on the 76th anniversary of the attack. "George, George. Thank you, George. Good. That was a pretty wild scene. You'll never forget that, right?"

What. The. F#ck?


Yep.
https://www.fark.com/comments/9831244​/​Apparently-attack-on-Pearl-Harbor-was-​Im-quoting-here-a-pretty-wild-scene#ne​w
 
2017-12-07 08:49:56 PM  

gar1013: HiFiGuy: [img.fark.net image 850x565]
Uncle Eazy: There's a Rolls Royce in the picture of "Mahan-class destroyer USS Shaw (DD 373)" exploding.

They even got a Toyota and a VW to participate in their WWII reenactment.

I'm sure there are a bunch of Mitsubishis on the other side of that explosion.


There's Zero humor in your reply.
 
2017-12-07 09:09:13 PM  
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This B-17 barely made it back to base.
 
2017-12-07 09:28:22 PM  

D_PaulAngel: WTFDYW: D_PaulAngel: Some haunting images there. I visited the Arizona a few years ago, and there's a magnitude to it that just can't be fully appreciated by pictures, words, or even video. If you ever have a chance to go, it's worth it.

Went there in October. We couldn't dock at the USS Arizona memorial because of choppy waters that day. I talked to someone yesterday that went there five years ago and stood above the sunken ship. He told me that walking over top of that, knowing all those souls were underfoot was the most sobering experience he's had in his 69 years.
We're going back to Hawaii again next year. I want to visit Pearl Harbor again.

Going out there is really sobering even with the crowds. Hopefully you were able to at least check out their museum? It's incredibly powerful in its own right.


I did and want to do it again next year.
 
2017-12-07 10:00:07 PM  
Myu Dad was a fighter pilot in the Pacific. He as at places like Leyte Gulf. After the war he went to Renssellear  in NY. When he graduated he went west, first to Texas then California. He was hired by Rocketdyne, which was making rockets with von Braun. He said von Braun was  the face guy; the real brains were the guys who worked for him.

And yes, they need to dust these pictures.
 
2017-12-07 10:00:16 PM  
Those damn Germans...
 
2017-12-07 11:46:29 PM  
These photos look shopped. I can tell....etc.
 
2017-12-08 03:00:37 AM  

SumJackass07: Someone should create an AR app that lets you see battlefields of the past.


One of the guys at Autodesk went and scanned the wreckage at pearl harbor

https://www.autodesk.com/redshift/rem​e​mbering-pearl-harbor/


https://cadfmconsult.wordpress.com/ta​g​/shaan-hurley/

Shaan is a cool guy if you ever get to meet him.
 
2017-12-08 03:02:08 AM  

Chemlight Battery: SumJackass07: Someone should create an AR app that lets you see battlefields of the past.

That may be the most awesome app idea I've ever heard. If that existed, I would be willing to break my perfect streak of never paying for a mobile app. You need to hop on over to a crowdsourcing funding site and start interviewing developers. I'll send you my money and my resume.


Smithsonian has done some vr and are if I recall, but check the things you're interested in, maybe it has been done
 
2017-12-08 10:16:06 AM  

loonatic112358: SumJackass07: Someone should create an AR app that lets you see battlefields of the past.

One of the guys at Autodesk went and scanned the wreckage at pearl harbor

https://www.autodesk.com/redshift/reme​mbering-pearl-harbor/


https://cadfmconsult.wordpress.com/tag​/shaan-hurley/

Shaan is a cool guy if you ever get to meet him.


That is awesome. Thank you for sharing.
 
2017-12-08 10:17:43 AM  

loonatic112358: That may be the most awesome app idea I've ever heard. If that existed, I would be willing to break my perfect streak of never paying for a mobile app. You need to hop on over to a crowdsourcing funding site and start interviewing developers. I'll send you my money and my resume.


Smithsonian has done some vr and are if I recall, but check the things you're interested in, maybe it has been done


I'll check around before I jump into this. Maybe write up a test app or two if the space is open.
Chemlight\ Battery EIP
 
2017-12-08 11:20:04 AM  

Chemlight Battery: SumJackass07: Someone should create an AR app that lets you see battlefields of the past.

That may be the most awesome app idea I've ever heard. If that existed, I would be willing to break my perfect streak of never paying for a mobile app. You need to hop on over to a crowdsourcing funding site and start interviewing developers. I'll send you my money and my resume.


I totally agree. I love museums and historical tours. Add in some AR and you've have the most compelling historical tour imaginable. I've always wanted to visit Auschwitz and Bergen Belsen. Add AR to those tours and it would be absolutely soul crushing. I'd love it.
 
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